Is Shai Gilgeous-Alexander The NBA MVP?

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@josiaha1781
@josiaha1781 16 күн бұрын
Whenever Coach starts talking bout balls too much i know i gotta skip that manscaped ad
@jackyparkchan7762
@jackyparkchan7762 15 күн бұрын
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@iPrank911
@iPrank911 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for showing some much needed love to the thunder and SGA. They completely shattered expectations. I would love to see where MVP voters thought the thunder would place before the season started
@TWDub
@TWDub 16 күн бұрын
Ask the media. They're the voters. Players, coaches, fans, or other NBA representatives have no say in the MVP.
@Joe_Ma99
@Joe_Ma99 15 күн бұрын
Most didn’t even have mavs in the play in and Luka ain’t getting serious consideration for mvp so I doubt it matters that much
@TropicalFox1
@TropicalFox1 16 күн бұрын
They really be pushing another narrative to not give it to Jokic huh
@johnbarkley925
@johnbarkley925 16 күн бұрын
Jokic is the clear MVP. If Shai won it this year it would be like the Derrick Rose MVP.
@Racoons4Change
@Racoons4Change 16 күн бұрын
I will always be on the side of giving the mvp to the best player in the world. Lebron/jordan/magic/kobe/duncan/shaq should’ve had more. Joker should get it because he’s the best in the word. And no, it’s not Luka.
@TWDub
@TWDub 16 күн бұрын
Jokic had his MVP's already. And MVP fatigue is a thing given that it's the Media who decides who gets the award.
@GarbageMan144
@GarbageMan144 16 күн бұрын
Y'all are obsessed with that man jesus
@berryesseen
@berryesseen 16 күн бұрын
@@TWDub That fatigue was last year. This year, they feel sorry because of the mistake they made last year. The same mistake won't happen twice in a row.
@domingow.17
@domingow.17 16 күн бұрын
His stats are almost exactly the same as last year... conflating a team's surprising success with his value is so disingenuous. The team around him got a lot better and that, along with the innovative coaching, should get the lions share of credit for the thunder's performance
@eranhasid7630
@eranhasid7630 16 күн бұрын
It’s not Most improved award it’s the mvp. Don’t disrespect Shai like that.
@djepser
@djepser 16 күн бұрын
@@eranhasid7630 I think the point is more "How is he valuable when he did virtually the same last year, yet ended 10th"
@domingow.17
@domingow.17 16 күн бұрын
@eranhasid7630 OK so why are ppl saying things like "no one expected okc to be this good. So Shai should win mvp"? Ppl are talking out of both sides of their mouths. It's annoying. Give legit arguments instead of using OKC's surprise success. Their surprise success is more of a reflection of the team as a whole along with the stellar coaching
@davidprice3438
@davidprice3438 16 күн бұрын
@@djepser you mean 1st?
@Davos-st8ok
@Davos-st8ok 16 күн бұрын
You dumb casual. MVP is not about raw value, MVP has always been about a player's contribution to WINNING. This is why Win shares / 48 is the best metric for predicting MVP players.
@ThatsPety
@ThatsPety 15 күн бұрын
People just saw the title and immediately started posting angry comments and their favorite players stats before even watching the video LMAO
@noconsent
@noconsent 16 күн бұрын
My impression of the Thunder all season was they are playing so well as a unit. I love watching their teamwork. I never got the impression that SGA was doing it all, and that their wins relied solely on a single player and not the front office, the coach, and the team all working together to get results. The Thunder have really impressed me this year. They earned my viewership by playing well. SGA is definitely an MVP candidate, one or two imo, I just don't describe OKC's success as relying solely on just one player, that's what makes the team all that much more impressive.
@joemilo2710
@joemilo2710 16 күн бұрын
Exactly. Nuggets are connected and depend as a team solely because of Jokic keeping them together while OKC is well rounded on all positions and not reliable so much on Shay. That's one of the main reasons why Jokic is MVP, plus everything else. The only strategies teams have against Jokic is to try to win the so called non-Jokic minutes. This was never mention about Shay as strategy because he is not that impactful as Jokic. In fact, most of the losses Nuggets have every season and especially this season is because teams would outscore Nuggets bench by 30-40-50 points and Nuggets would be undefeated if you would count only Jokic minutes. I think Nuggets bench even got outscored by like 68 points in one game this season, it was terrible how bad they are, worst bench in NBA by far.
@davidprice3438
@davidprice3438 16 күн бұрын
@@joemilo2710 SGA is not impactful? Keep typing...
@joemilo2710
@joemilo2710 16 күн бұрын
@@davidprice3438 I wrote he's not as impactful as Jokic. keep trying to learn to read.
@youngmyth
@youngmyth 16 күн бұрын
@@joemilo2710wait did you just suggest the Nuggets’ starting 5 is not literally the best and most team oriented in the league? Jesus people who obsess over this guy because he finally gives them some hope in an athletic sport will never stop. We get it mate, Jokic is good. It doesn’t mean he’s playing all by himself like stop the stupidity lol
@haroldisaacreyes262
@haroldisaacreyes262 15 күн бұрын
SGA MY MVP
@ChrisHobson916
@ChrisHobson916 16 күн бұрын
SGA is three at best. Luka and Jokic are both more deserving imo.
@Mr.Byrnes
@Mr.Byrnes 16 күн бұрын
I disagree completely, SGA is the clear MVP. Jokic and Luka have championship help
@rogelioatempa1115
@rogelioatempa1115 16 күн бұрын
​@@Mr.Byrnesput your bias aside. It's clear that Doncic and Jokic are 1 and 2.
@vornm1234
@vornm1234 15 күн бұрын
Its not necessarily the numbers that has SGA in contention over Luka & Jokic for MVP. As stated by several analysts, the Thunder is the youngest team in the NBA with no other all-star & ranked first in the league. SGA, who's offensive game is not oriented near the 3 point line as a guard, has the better defense than Luka & Jokic. Further more, The Thunder has the season winning record over the Mavs & Nugs this year. If we are putting Jokic Luka over SGA, then we need to consider that there more NBA considered with individual stats & highlights, over true overall skill & team impact.
@haroldisaacreyes262
@haroldisaacreyes262 15 күн бұрын
SGA MY MVP
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@agwager
@agwager 14 күн бұрын
100% agree. SGA has also been enormous in clutch situations as well. The Thunder are at their best when SGA, JDub and Chet are firing on all cylinders. They are so hard to stop all 3 and Giddey has really improved late in the season. Although they lack size and strength in the paint, they are fearless and they find a way to win. I don’t think they can get passed the Nuggets this season, but if they can pick up a BIG during the off season and with all their 1st round picks to come, they're going to have themselves a 3-4 year dynasty (as long as they can afford to keep all their young talent). Imagine Jokic joining the Thunder as a free agent!!
@nbapbaupdate8338
@nbapbaupdate8338 13 күн бұрын
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander SKILLS ELITE 💪🔥💪
@sk8trboi4lyfe
@sk8trboi4lyfe 16 күн бұрын
Shai is def the mvp
@SGAforMVP-2024
@SGAforMVP-2024 15 күн бұрын
SHAI FOR MVP
@OneMoreWaffle31
@OneMoreWaffle31 16 күн бұрын
SGA cooked them Nuggets more than once. They have the tie breaker.
@superbjai76
@superbjai76 16 күн бұрын
Coach, you did it again and again…you got me watching the whole MVP ad not knowing it.
@jamespaulmacalipay6814
@jamespaulmacalipay6814 16 күн бұрын
Didnt know nuggets are the 10th seed as jokic cant be considered mvp because of their record, this is funny, they literally have the same record
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@user-tt1hx2nm4p
@user-tt1hx2nm4p 13 күн бұрын
​​@@teddyhart2913😂 he's not the best defensive player at his position. Luka and Jokic would body him. Hes too fn small.
@berryesseen
@berryesseen 16 күн бұрын
Regular stats, eye test, advanced stats, all indicate one answer for the MVP question. And that answer isn't SGA. Just check basketball-reference. It's so obvious.
@vornm1234
@vornm1234 15 күн бұрын
Youngest team in the NBA with no other all-star, ranked first in the league, & SGA, who's game is not oriented near the 3 point line as a guard, has the better defense than Luka & Jokic.
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@kostastube2010
@kostastube2010 15 күн бұрын
@@vornm1234 And just 50 first round picks, by ripping off whoever had the clever idea to want Westbrick and CP3. Who else has ZERO All Star teammates (except for DeAndre Jordan, age 47, once like 20 years ago)? JOKIC!
@pipohemm8726
@pipohemm8726 14 күн бұрын
​@@vornm1234Jdub is basically allstar caliber at this point and chet is a borderline allstar
@redeyexxx1841
@redeyexxx1841 8 күн бұрын
​@@vornm1234 That youngest you're implying has countless first round picks.
@thomashoyt8757
@thomashoyt8757 16 күн бұрын
With this logic, the MVP should be Tatum
@Mr.Byrnes
@Mr.Byrnes 16 күн бұрын
No, Tatum has MUCH better help. SGA lead a team full of Rookies and Sophomores to the 1 seed in a historically stacked West. It is what it is 🤷 MVP
@thomashoyt8757
@thomashoyt8757 16 күн бұрын
@@Mr.Byrnes sure but his logic he stated was “he’s the MVP becuase he’s the best player on the best team in the west.” By that logic the MVP should be the best player on the best team in the league.
@RightStickRob
@RightStickRob 16 күн бұрын
The answer is no. TO ANYONE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE JOKIC IS THE MVP this year. - he played more games than other MVP candidates, had the tied best record in the West with his best teammate miss 25 games. - Jokic was fifth in total points, third in total rebounds, second in total assists, and eighth in total steals. He's the only player in NBA history to be top-10 in all four categories in a single season. - Jokic led the entire league in on/off offensive efficiency with plus-18.9 points per 100 possessions. - He was first in total plus-minus at plus-682. Jokic was first in VORP (Value Over Replacement Player), PER (Player Efficiency Rating), Win Shares, Offensive Win Shares, Box Plus/Minus, Offensive Box Plus/Minus, and Defensive Box Plus/Minus. - Every single Nuggets starter had a higher effective field goal percentage with Jokic on the floor compared to him off - Jokic was the only player in the league that averaged at least 25 points, 10 rebounds, and 9 assists. He's the sixth player to ever put up these numbers. - Jokic was second in total at-rim assists and total two-point assists. - He was first in total steals by a center. - Jokic was fifth in total deflections in the NBA. - He was second in the NBA in non-restricted painted area field goal percentage at 61.7 percent (minimum 100 attempts). - He finished second in total points in the painted area. - Jokic was first in post-up points and assists. - He also led the league in total points and total assists from the elbows. Jokic recorded the second-most double-doubles in the league with 68 and the second-most triple-doubles with 25. - Nikola had 21 games of 25-point triple-doubles, which led the league.
@3rdworlds
@3rdworlds 16 күн бұрын
Wasn't he 3-1 against the youngest team to ever win the #1 seed?
@haroldisaacreyes262
@haroldisaacreyes262 15 күн бұрын
SGA my MVP
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@RightStickRob
@RightStickRob 15 күн бұрын
@@teddyhart2913 nikola Jokic literally leads the league in defensive box plus minus(over every player in the league) and steals at the center position
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
@@RightStickRob you know box plus minus is a stat based on team performance while youre on the court, not indicative of your individual defensive ability which is probably the weakest aspect of Jokers game. Also leading in steals (like allen iverson did multiple times) doesnt necessarily make you a good defender. Jokic is a decent defender, and Im not saying he shouldn't get MVP, just that most ppl who say SGA doesn't have a case totally discredits the other end of the ball
@civinenad
@civinenad 16 күн бұрын
Just look at advanced stats...
@semajaibell25
@semajaibell25 16 күн бұрын
Yessssiirrrrrrrrrrr !!!!!!!!!! Thank you for showing SgA some luv
@user-yf1wc5fb8k
@user-yf1wc5fb8k 16 күн бұрын
Every time a righty goes to his left in a bballbreakdown clip, I know what we are about to hear hahaha.... Another great vid coach thanks
@IGqy
@IGqy 15 күн бұрын
This made me go find highlights of Shaun Livingston. SGA's game reminds me of his. Miss watching that guy play!
@miguelbraz2629
@miguelbraz2629 16 күн бұрын
Real mvp is Doncic. If not Jokic. Sga had a great season but when you compare him with Luka's numbers...
@vornm1234
@vornm1234 15 күн бұрын
Its not necessarily the numbers that has SGA in contention over Luka & Jokic.
@miguelbraz2629
@miguelbraz2629 15 күн бұрын
@@vornm1234 it's the team record? Then why not Tatum... Also OKC only have one more win than Denver
@haroldisaacreyes262
@haroldisaacreyes262 15 күн бұрын
SGA BETTER DEFENCE. FAR MORE VALUABLE
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@miguelbraz2629
@miguelbraz2629 15 күн бұрын
@@teddyhart2913 so Harden was not mvp a few years ago?
@willg3220
@willg3220 16 күн бұрын
A clever ad is still an ad. Put that garbo at the end, please 🙏. I'll trade you likes and comments
@BBWatson100
@BBWatson100 16 күн бұрын
Hush
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 16 күн бұрын
Brother, you are watching free content
@weksauce
@weksauce 13 күн бұрын
"If you're the best player on the best team in the best conference, why not make that person the MVP?" Ummmm, because they're not the MOST valuable player!??! Hello!? The most valuable is the one that makes their team the most likely to win against the second-best team, over either the median or next-best replacement player.
@tommywaitsy
@tommywaitsy 16 күн бұрын
That Shai jump shot is a thing of beauty. He has infinite variations of moves, and some of the most fluid footwork ive ever seen.
@franciscosamir5256
@franciscosamir5256 16 күн бұрын
GIVE IT TO LUKA
@vanity9105
@vanity9105 16 күн бұрын
lmao luka with kyrie couldnt even make it to 1st seed hahaha
@pcgamerbydefault5504
@pcgamerbydefault5504 16 күн бұрын
ESPN leaked the MVP results, Luka came in 3rd, with just 1 first place vote. HeatCheck covered this.. Give or take a few points here or there he is 3rd, and its sad
@franciscosamir5256
@franciscosamir5256 16 күн бұрын
@@vanity9105 They didnt have a good team until washington and gafford arrived
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 16 күн бұрын
You know when jokic won his first mvp and the nuggets were 6th in the West? Jokic led the league in plus minus that year. This year he is leading it again by a big margin. Jokic also has higher PER, better true shooting, higher assist percentage, lower turnover percentage. Why does Luka deserve it over Jokic?
@ericcouch
@ericcouch 16 күн бұрын
@@vanity9105 enjoy getting swept in the first round, regular season kings.
@lmcgjr.4032
@lmcgjr.4032 16 күн бұрын
Nice work 😊
@Li_Yifei
@Li_Yifei 16 күн бұрын
Luka, jokic and shai who ever wins it deserves it. But I'll take joker because i want to see another 3x mvp player. He's gonna be the Larry bird of todays era so the jordan of this era will show up😂
@reillydougherty2166
@reillydougherty2166 16 күн бұрын
who’s getting aids
@thedarkfrost2351
@thedarkfrost2351 16 күн бұрын
Wemby is Jordan
@ChiTownOriginator
@ChiTownOriginator 16 күн бұрын
? Weird take with that MJ part
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@Li_Yifei
@Li_Yifei 15 күн бұрын
@@teddyhart2913 ofcourse mvp is not about offensive production. its how valuable you are on your team. so why jokic is number one on mvp race even though he has 26.5 ppg? because advanced metrics said that joker is so valuable on his team. And for joker's defense, about people saying that he has no defense is a hoax. If you're watching nuggets you know how good joker's defense is. How fast he moves on defense on clutch time and how he commands his team's position on defense.
@dimelo58
@dimelo58 16 күн бұрын
Dude is smooth
@Sparky6string
@Sparky6string 16 күн бұрын
Answer: no.
@vuvuzela691
@vuvuzela691 16 күн бұрын
Depends on what's your criteria for MVP
@roncooley4753
@roncooley4753 15 күн бұрын
SGA IS MVP!!!
@jerrywilliams3373
@jerrywilliams3373 16 күн бұрын
Yup
@jdapaul1351
@jdapaul1351 16 күн бұрын
If the basis of MVP is by score of: 10% basic stats 10% media vote 35% W-L record & position in conference 45% stats that affect his value on the team Would it be a good scoring system to determine MVP using numbers?
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 16 күн бұрын
How do you calculate basic stats as 1 number? PER? PIE? What do you exactly mean with stats that effect the team?
@kostastube2010
@kostastube2010 15 күн бұрын
Eye test maybe...?
@MrAaaaaaaaa9
@MrAaaaaaaaa9 14 күн бұрын
MVP, MVP, MVP!!!
@atleastsomeoneelse
@atleastsomeoneelse 16 күн бұрын
nah. give it to luka if ou're not giving it to jokic
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@TheDeven1000
@TheDeven1000 15 күн бұрын
Yes
@nm93932
@nm93932 15 күн бұрын
Everyones arguments as to why he should not be MVP is that he is too young and not much experience. Many think they became the first seed out, just pure luck. Those people are people who have not been watching them since they started rebuilding. It was not luck. There is a reason Coach Mark won Coach of the year and the OKC blue won the western conference. From the restart coach Mark has been known to send players to the OKC blue to develope them. I remember seeing them come back and playing better. OKC has been working hard on development and this year, there was a point where if felt that OKC was like, "Lets go for it!! We got this, we are ready!". They caught everyone off guard, but it shouldn't have. If they had watched all the games even the losses, they would have noticed their development was moving extremely fast. It wasn’t luck, it was hard work! Everyone says "he is awesome, he is MVP material, but NOT THIS YEAR, maybe next year or two." Why? Because he is too young and doesn't have more years of experience? Right. No. Shai MVP this year.
@vornm1234
@vornm1234 15 күн бұрын
Great Breakdown, no doubt. Its not necessarily the numbers that has SGA in contention over Luka & Jokic for MVP. As stated by several analysts, the Thunder is the youngest team in the NBA with no other all-star & ranked first in the league. SGA, who's offensive game is not oriented near the 3 point line as a guard, has the better defense than Luka & Jokic. Further more, The Thunder has the season winning record over the Mavs & Nugs this year. If we are putting Jokic Luka over SGA, then we need to consider that there more NBA considered with individual stats & highlights, over true overall skill & team impact.
@XizheCheng
@XizheCheng 16 күн бұрын
Luka and Jokic deserves more. But SGA makes this conversation more interesting with his consistency.
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@student99bg
@student99bg 16 күн бұрын
Jokic with the Nuggets has the same record as SGA with Thunder and Jokic has way better stats. There is no argument to give the MVP award to SGA over Jokic, maybe I can see an argument for Luka (though I still think Jokic is more deserving of it).
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@joemilo2710
@joemilo2710 16 күн бұрын
Of course he didn't mention this fact, Last 16 games, that's about last 20% of the season: Jokic: 31 7 5 16 11 7 35 16 2 30 14 11 didn't play 29 11 8 22 9 10 32 10 5 26 18 16 42 16 6 36 17 10 19 11 14 28 13 7 41 11 7 22 7 12 15 15 5 Shay: 20 7 3 31 7 4 23 7 8 12 3 2 24 5 8 didn't play didn't play 19 2 3 didn't play didn't play didn't play didn't play 40 7 4 26 6 5 23 7 3 15 1 6 If you want to see who is more valuable and who does more for their team just look at these number to close the regular season. Shay has ZERO double-doubles, ZERO triple-double, only one 30+ point game and one 40 point game plus missed a whole bunch of games while Jokic was killing opponents with 10 double-doubles plus 4 triple doubles, five 30+ point games, two 40+ games and missed just one game to close the season!!! Shay's numbers look pathetic to call him MVP next to Jokic numbers and how Jokic drags the Nuggets by doing absolutely everything for that team, that's true MVP! If you go deeper into advanced stats that are hidden Jokic kills Shay and everyone else there too!
@haroldisaacreyes262
@haroldisaacreyes262 15 күн бұрын
SGA MY MVP
@asergebs4852
@asergebs4852 15 күн бұрын
CONTEXT. You shai was either playing hurt or out with a quad the last 10 or so games. And for the lack of scoring peak, he makes that up in consistency. I think he had 55+ games in which he scored 30+
@haroldisaacreyes262
@haroldisaacreyes262 15 күн бұрын
SGA MY MVP
@ST-tf4sq
@ST-tf4sq 16 күн бұрын
Big push for Jokic? Literally EVERYONE HATES ON HIM, even tho he is clear MVP, makes whole team better, pushes his team, doesnt just shoot million shots to get 50 pts.. you know shooting million shots doesnt make you MVP
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 16 күн бұрын
Please dont use the word literally like that. the last mvp poll had jokic easily ahead of the rest
@bballbreakdown
@bballbreakdown 16 күн бұрын
Well, the voters aren’t hating on him
@abbabb8369
@abbabb8369 16 күн бұрын
@@maartenvz Shaq, Steven A and Perkins say otherwise... and they on tv / web 24/7
@janoycresnova9156
@janoycresnova9156 16 күн бұрын
​@@abbabb8369if Jokic was a darker skin color, they'd be singing a different tune.
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 16 күн бұрын
​@@abbabb8369bro, 3 clowns that say things to piss you off to get attention does not equal literally everyone. The straw poll was shared and jokic was leading it.
@gotnthinonmeh644
@gotnthinonmeh644 16 күн бұрын
Took you the whole season to make a video about the thunder huh
@reillydougherty2166
@reillydougherty2166 16 күн бұрын
yall got 2 videos
@VVVY777
@VVVY777 15 күн бұрын
You an entitled baby huh
@user-tt1hx2nm4p
@user-tt1hx2nm4p 13 күн бұрын
Its because SGA is a fraud
@Mrlucozade18
@Mrlucozade18 16 күн бұрын
If anyone wants an interesting read, please hear me out below: The NBA seriously need to look at the bias from the MVP voting committee. I am seeing a disproportionate amount of votes for Jokic. There is another agenda going on that's not to do with basketball. Which is not only unfair to Luka but Jokic , SGA, and all the other candidates. Im seeing voters like Bill Simmons getting votes, the same person who partners will gambling sites like Fam Duel on their podcast. ESPN members get a significantly larger proportion of voting power, which is interesting when you look at ESPN recent venture into the gambling industry. The objectivity of these voters should be called into question. The odds being so in favour of Jokic is also telling. -5000 Jokic and 20/1 Luka. Vegas knows something we don't. As most basketball fan and mock polls suggest it should be a lot closer race. Oddschecker suggests a relatively even amount of money has been placed on the both of them. So how come Jokic is such a favourite... In December straw poll when Embid was front running favourite he was averaging less in pts, rb and ast than Luka is now - at 50 win pace, which Luka managed to achieve. So how come Luka was never the front runner. All of this information anyone can find on X, you can even find the voters names, which is also wrong. For all we know they are being bribed , colluding together to try and get the winner they or someone else wants. The house always wins as they say. It's clear who the fans MVP is it's Luka, my votes Luka by a mile, not just because of his performance but because I cannot stand corruption/ bias in sports. I would not be surprised if this is happening in the NBA, just look at FIFA - this Jokic, Luka situation reminds me of the Messi/ Harland balonD'or in 2023. Messi is the goat but it's almost felt as if Haaland could not have done more that year. Again both deserved to win and the odds, albeit in Messi favour were a lot closer. I feel sorry for Jokic as he does not deserve to be dragged down by all the controversy, he is an all time great but may look less legitimate due to the poor way in which the award is given. I am an NBA fan and do not have the time, platform or resources to deep dive into this the way I believe should be . But the NBA has to do better, MVP needs to be legitimately defined, it affects the history books and peoples trust in the organisation.
@RightStickRob
@RightStickRob 16 күн бұрын
Look, I want Luka(I bet money on it at the beginning of the season) to win too, but it’s disingenuous to act like Jokic doesn’t have a very very very strong case. - he played more games than other MVP candidates, had the tied best record in the West with his best teammate miss 25 games. - Jokic was fifth in total points, third in total rebounds, second in total assists, and eighth in total steals. He's the only player in NBA history to be top-10 in all four categories in a single season. - Jokic led the entire league in on/off offensive efficiency with plus-18.9 points per 100 possessions. - He was first in total plus-minus at plus-682. Jokic was first in VORP (Value Over Replacement Player), PER (Player Efficiency Rating), Win Shares, Offensive Win Shares, Box Plus/Minus, Offensive Box Plus/Minus, and Defensive Box Plus/Minus. - Every single Nuggets starter had a higher effective field goal percentage with Jokic on the floor compared to him off - Jokic was the only player in the league that averaged at least 25 points, 10 rebounds, and 9 assists. He's the sixth player to ever put up these numbers. - Jokic was second in total at-rim assists and total two-point assists. - He was first in total steals by a center. - Jokic was fifth in total deflections in the NBA. - He was second in the NBA in non-restricted painted area field goal percentage at 61.7 percent (minimum 100 attempts). - He finished second in total points in the painted area. - Jokic was first in post-up points and assists. - He also led the league in total points and total assists from the elbows. Jokic recorded the second-most double-doubles in the league with 68 and the second-most triple-doubles with 25. - Nikola had 21 games of 25-point triple-doubles, which led the league.
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 16 күн бұрын
I completely agree that gambling is a poison that sickens the league. At the same time that doesnt mean Luka deserves it more than Jokic. Jokic has better true shooting, higher assist percentage, lower turnover percentage and leads the league in plus minus. "Yeah but Luka doesnt have such a good team/injuries". Sure, but when the nuggets had a lot of injuries and finished 6th jokic was still leading the league in plus minus and got mvp. We cant give it to Luka for hypothetical reasons. If Luka leads the league in plus minus he deserves mvp but he doesnt
@awesomeninja234
@awesomeninja234 16 күн бұрын
Jokic, SGA, and Doncic are all deserving.
@bilanggoboy
@bilanggoboy 16 күн бұрын
Still Joker. The Thunder are great but SGA’s value to that much more balanced team is nothing compared to Joker’s to the Nuggets this year.
@deathcare
@deathcare 16 күн бұрын
You open the video talking about SGA's PnR, isolations, finishing, and turnover rate when Luka is already statistically better at all of those things, while Luka with one arm and leg tied behind his back is still a better passer than SGA. I feel like I am going insane or something. There is a guy averaging a never before seen stat line, with the 2nd best combined averages of all time, the 2nd highest individual game score in league history, leading the league in PPG without free throws, is probably the best overall 3 point shooter in the league this season, did all of this while carrying a pretty shitty roster prior to the trade deadline, and once getting real NBA role players to start with him at the trade deadline has been the engine behind the best team in the entire league. Yet virtually nobody in the media wants to give him any credit and we have people talking about a free throw merchant who has had basically the same roster for years and couldn't do anything with them until a generational rookie showed up.
@bballbreakdown
@bballbreakdown 16 күн бұрын
I hear ya. Part of it could be that he had a slowish start… and we have to figure out if his advantage as a passer overcomes Shai’s advantage as a defender
@kingmoreorless2810
@kingmoreorless2810 16 күн бұрын
​@@bballbreakdownExactly
@tyresejones3535
@tyresejones3535 16 күн бұрын
Free throw merchant? Goofy shai and luka average the exact same amount of free throws per game at 8.7 attempts each while shai is the far superior defender and beats doncic in nearly every advanced stat. Shai carried the okc thunder to the best record in the western conference while being on the 2nd youngest team in the entire nba. while Chet is an excellent player he isn’t even close to being generational right now smh. Kyrie irving has performed at a superstar level in the games he’s played in and Dallas’s offense doesn’t miss a beat when Luka is on the bench. The thunder are much worse when shai is on the bench. Go watch table tennis 🏓
@cooperjennings6708
@cooperjennings6708 16 күн бұрын
you could have made a good point if you didn't turn around and criticize shai for no reason. Luka averages more free throws than shai, who is by far the most frequent driver out of guards in the nba. Also, saying he's had the "same roster" is incredibly disingenuous considering they are still one of the youngest teams to be this successful in the regular season. Last year or the year before they had the average age of a literal college team. Luka deserves MVP as much as anyone else, but no need to be salty
@deathcare
@deathcare 16 күн бұрын
@@bballbreakdown Luka averaged 32.9 points, 9.1 assists, and 8.4 rebounds in the first 25 games of the season. I don't get where the slow start thing comes from.
@kevin54524
@kevin54524 16 күн бұрын
Put SGA in Detroit, I bet that they still suck. But if you put Jokic in Detroit, for sure they are contenders.
@northernassassin6056
@northernassassin6056 14 күн бұрын
It's Jokic.
@xebsitemarketing3208
@xebsitemarketing3208 16 күн бұрын
The dislikes looking nice
@mjsburneraccount5591
@mjsburneraccount5591 14 күн бұрын
Salty Luka stans
@LetsTalkAbout1125
@LetsTalkAbout1125 16 күн бұрын
SGA, Same numbers as last year, Chet and JDubb’s growth are responsible for this turnaround. Can’t be “most valuable” when your value hasn’t gone up or down at all.
@davidprice3438
@davidprice3438 16 күн бұрын
So the Thunder got more talented players, and SGA's numbers didnt go down? SGA also got better, and his value has gone up from 10th to 1st place.
@Mr.Byrnes
@Mr.Byrnes 16 күн бұрын
SGA lead a team full of rookies and sophomores to the 1 seed in the West. It is what it is 🤷 MVP
@redeyexxx1841
@redeyexxx1841 8 күн бұрын
​@@Mr.ByrnesThe team had what like 50 first rounds picks? Just because they're young doesn't mean they aren't better than many other veteran players.
@McBoomPow
@McBoomPow 16 күн бұрын
I wonder why sga isn't known as SEGA!
@ThelmaLlanillo
@ThelmaLlanillo 16 күн бұрын
For a young team & no all star team mate with 53+% shooting for a guard, Shai you the MVP 🏀
@pedrovieira1153
@pedrovieira1153 14 күн бұрын
05:28 why would anyone want your used boxers?
@jeromecruz3237
@jeromecruz3237 10 күн бұрын
Defense should be rated fairly. SGA should win MVP over Luka and Jokic just because he is a two-way player
@redeyexxx1841
@redeyexxx1841 8 күн бұрын
Defense should be rated higher than currently?? Then give it to Giannis
@milosjovicevic6083
@milosjovicevic6083 16 күн бұрын
C'mon man. Jokic as center HAS much more assists than Shai as point guard. It is not even close. Luka has much better case. Luka has insane season. OKC has much deeper bench than Denver and they were healthy all year until Jokic missed Murray in 30% of games. OKC is first because Murray, Gordon etc missed 40 games
@Mr.Byrnes
@Mr.Byrnes 16 күн бұрын
SGA has lead the youngest team to ever win a 1 seed in NBA history. Not to mention it being one of the most stacked Western Conferences in history, as well. A bunch of Rookies and Sophomores have been outplaying most of the League and the catalyst? Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.
@dbuzuloiu
@dbuzuloiu 15 күн бұрын
The 🐐 ladder: 1. Nikola Jokic 🇷🇸 [Serbia] P.I.E.: 21.1 2. Luka Doncic 🇸🇮 [Slovenia] P.I.E.: 20.0 3. Giannis Antetokounmpo 🇬🇷 [Greece] P.I.E.: 19.7 4. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander 🇨🇦 [Canada] P.I.E.: 18.7 5. Domantas Sabonis 🇱🇹 [Lithuania] P.I.E.: 16.9
@MrMathsimon
@MrMathsimon 15 күн бұрын
Give it to him and watch the Thunder fold first round
@ktdsgaming
@ktdsgaming 16 күн бұрын
Wait he knows how to score I thought he only took 30 free throws per game 😱
@bxnd-hunta
@bxnd-hunta 16 күн бұрын
he takes less free throws than last year and only averages 1 less point
@ktdsgaming
@ktdsgaming 16 күн бұрын
@@bxnd-hunta Exactly! I’m making fun of the people who says he only shoots free throws
@goatstatusj5112
@goatstatusj5112 16 күн бұрын
Your bf Luka Donsheet avga more fts…..
@ktdsgaming
@ktdsgaming 14 күн бұрын
@@goatstatusj5112 Shai is my favorite player I’m making fun of fans that say he’s a free throw merchant especially Luka fans
@goatstatusj5112
@goatstatusj5112 14 күн бұрын
@@ktdsgaming oo my bad then
@andreaskontos78
@andreaskontos78 16 күн бұрын
If you want to find out who's the MVP, just ask this simple question: "What their teams look like when they're NOT on the floor?"
@naceks
@naceks 16 күн бұрын
come on, SGA is great but he is not on lvl with Luka & Joker.
@student99bg
@student99bg 16 күн бұрын
Why not just rename the award to MVAP - Most valuable American player, that way you don't need to tie yourselves into knots to explain why Eastern European Slavs (Jokic, Luka) shouldn't win the award when everyone sees that those 2 are the most deserving of it, Jokic more so than Luka though
@benibremsspur
@benibremsspur 16 күн бұрын
Shai is Canadian
@BooksNelson-bx2bq
@BooksNelson-bx2bq 16 күн бұрын
This is an insane comment considering the last 5 MVPs haven’t been American born and Shai is Canadian. Are you ok?
@Bleax
@Bleax 16 күн бұрын
It’s so wild watching people play victim over mvp 😂
@student99bg
@student99bg 16 күн бұрын
​@@benibremsspur Apparently Americans view them as one of their own
@student99bg
@student99bg 16 күн бұрын
​@@BooksNelson-bx2bq Even this year Jokic will probably win the MVP, I am talking about a minority of voters that were always against Jokic winning the MVP and who don't even acknowledge that Luka is in the race. I know most voters aren't like this
@zachhoff9876
@zachhoff9876 16 күн бұрын
Ahh if only the clippers would listen to Doc Rivers... 😂😂😂😂
@andrecambridge4474
@andrecambridge4474 16 күн бұрын
top 5 on both ends. no all stars. back to back 93% percentile jumps year over year. 2 way star.
@deehayz573
@deehayz573 15 күн бұрын
SGA is the mvp. Better record than the other two and a better two way player than both. Plus SGA doesn’t have another player averaging 20ppg on his team
@dynamicflashy
@dynamicflashy 16 күн бұрын
No. Luka is the MVP. SGA has the following: coach of the year, rookie of the year candidate, and the most improved player candidate.
@Mr.Byrnes
@Mr.Byrnes 16 күн бұрын
Kyrie? A champion and one of the best scorers in the world, still? Hello?
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@magicsabre
@magicsabre 12 күн бұрын
OKC are up against the best in Nikola and cos. Not this year bruh, not this year..
@jorgealafriz
@jorgealafriz 16 күн бұрын
#PraviMVP
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 16 күн бұрын
Jokic, Luka, Shai & Tatum are all valid to get mvp to me no wrong answer
@akairibbon4658
@akairibbon4658 16 күн бұрын
No, Luka deserves it. Shai not even in the same stratosphere as Luka man fuqattahere. After Luka It's Brunson. After Brunson it's Jokic, then SGA.
@TiredOfthisstuff
@TiredOfthisstuff 16 күн бұрын
Did you just said brunson over jokic and sga?
@Mr.Byrnes
@Mr.Byrnes 16 күн бұрын
@@TiredOfthisstuffthese kids need to get their phones taken away smfh 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@victordunn20
@victordunn20 15 күн бұрын
You haven’t showed any love to OKC all season and I’ve been waiting and this was worth the wait. Shai for MVP
@EuroGupper
@EuroGupper 16 күн бұрын
Elite on offense and defense. I hope coach talks about his defense. It's what separates him from other MVP contenders. Best two way player since prime Kawhi, Kobe and MJ
@bballbreakdown
@bballbreakdown 16 күн бұрын
I did!
@maartenvz
@maartenvz 16 күн бұрын
Coach your content doesnt need a cringey clickbait title to lure in people. Great analysis of Shai but you forgot to explain why he is more valuable than jokic.
@student99bg
@student99bg 16 күн бұрын
He can't do that because he isn't more valuable than Jokic
@zapdos6244
@zapdos6244 16 күн бұрын
@@student99bg Shh, the OKC delulu fans will hear you
@YunisRajab
@YunisRajab 15 күн бұрын
I feel like Shai gets a bit too much credit for his team's success. They shattered expectations because they got a super rookie and Williams dramatically improved as well as some great coaching. Shai is firmly third for MVP for me. Nuggets would be in the play in without Jokic and the Mavs would be in the lottery without Luka
@jaiden8102
@jaiden8102 14 күн бұрын
As well for the Thunder. Take Shai off that team and they are in the play in as well. Not to mention, Shai basically creates most of their offense.
@dunmatta2670
@dunmatta2670 14 күн бұрын
And I think that's what gives SGA the edge. His defense is a difference maker and I'd give it to SGA this year over Jokic though I wouldn't be surprised if Jokic won it again.
@Alilmis0
@Alilmis0 16 күн бұрын
Shais lead the 2nd youngest team in the NBA with no all stars to the 1st seed in a stacked western conference. They were one of the worst teams 2 yrs ago. literally a no brainer
@jackyparkchan7762
@jackyparkchan7762 15 күн бұрын
Luka more likely
@janoycresnova9156
@janoycresnova9156 16 күн бұрын
Stop it! Jokic is the real MVP.
@maharajahdann
@maharajahdann 16 күн бұрын
Why? Because the media keep saying it?
@janoycresnova9156
@janoycresnova9156 16 күн бұрын
Much better stats and better impact.
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@mrjohn71398
@mrjohn71398 16 күн бұрын
Simply put, no Jokic is the MVP and deserves it more than any player in the league
@teddyhart2913
@teddyhart2913 15 күн бұрын
Not that Jokic isnt deserving but ppl keep forgetting that aside from SGA's offensive production hes also one of the best defenders at his position in the league, something you cannot say about Jokic or Luka. MVP is not just the best offensive player
@rolandorosaleslangamin8889
@rolandorosaleslangamin8889 16 күн бұрын
sga is best player on a best team in west.. tatum is the best player on a best team in whole nba now
@javellswanson7036
@javellswanson7036 16 күн бұрын
SGA does boost any team’s chance of winning
@EuroGupper
@EuroGupper 16 күн бұрын
Yes sir!
@shlomomordechayov8398
@shlomomordechayov8398 15 күн бұрын
Luka
@princemjbp695
@princemjbp695 16 күн бұрын
The BEST player on the TOP team of the TOUGHEST conference. That's actually a pretty good case for MVP
@S-TierIguess
@S-TierIguess 16 күн бұрын
I see why you still haven’t reached 1mil subs yet and why I been unsub’d. Bet the playoff coverage will be interesting for whoever watches as well lol.
@JayyTheManAtl
@JayyTheManAtl 16 күн бұрын
Luka is the clear mvp
@ChiTownOriginator
@ChiTownOriginator 16 күн бұрын
No, Nick. It's Jokic. Luka > SGA
@AlexWatanabe-ff2ln
@AlexWatanabe-ff2ln 16 күн бұрын
What shocked me the most is the media gave 15 1st place votes to Joker,and only 2 1st place votes to SGA.It's disrespectful.SGA deserve half votes of media.
@MetalMike87
@MetalMike87 16 күн бұрын
I'd say Luka deserved it a little bit more since he didn't have the team from the start AND did have to carry his own team through other's injuries Shai and Nikola basically had the whole starting team available all the time
@MrAaaaaaaaa9
@MrAaaaaaaaa9 14 күн бұрын
I haven’t even started the video and the answer is 100% undisputed YES
@rhysfairall2562
@rhysfairall2562 16 күн бұрын
Shai won't win it right now and may not win very many but he'll be like kobe in the sense that we'll look back and think "How did he not win like 5 of em"
@zapdos6244
@zapdos6244 16 күн бұрын
yeah no
@marcuskane1040
@marcuskane1040 16 күн бұрын
Jokic and Doncic >>>> free throw merchant that got carried by his team and coach all season long 💯💯
@barsbarsbarz
@barsbarsbarz 16 күн бұрын
Luka literally shoots more free throws 😭 it's like punishing Shai for making them damn near 90% when Luka shoots like Jeremy Sochan numbers
@Esteban-R2
@Esteban-R2 16 күн бұрын
​@@barsbarsbarz Without FTs, Luka still scores more than sga
@john_frankford7450
@john_frankford7450 16 күн бұрын
Yes carried by the sub 24 year old roster with the second and third best players being rookies and sophomores respectively. Of course led by a coach with no previous accolades, has only coached the thunder, and who’s previous job was as an assistant coach for Florida. Also free throw merchant? I’m sorry but I believe luka was one of the comparisons? Looks like someone forgot to research. All in all, a great take 👏 🤡
@janoycresnova9156
@janoycresnova9156 16 күн бұрын
Amen
@mjsburneraccount5591
@mjsburneraccount5591 14 күн бұрын
Okc are 2-6 without Shai btw
@ArtisWrld
@ArtisWrld 16 күн бұрын
Everything he does is is silk
@MarshalStockton
@MarshalStockton 16 күн бұрын
It’s Jokic this year, last year was rightfully embiid. SGA has too much help from Chet and Jdub, Jokic is creating the western conference parity
@Mr.Byrnes
@Mr.Byrnes 16 күн бұрын
Too much help? 😂 You mean the rookies and sophomores SGA has lead to the 1 seed in a historically stacked Western Conference? The youngest team in NBA history to win a 1 seed? Yea you’re not making any sense 😅
@teddythian3955
@teddythian3955 16 күн бұрын
No give it to luka
@Angelov_84
@Angelov_84 16 күн бұрын
Shai MVP 😍🔥🔥🔥
@poppatheegoat
@poppatheegoat 16 күн бұрын
Luka and jokic is the only right answer Jokic and shai have same record jokic averaged more assists and rebound and shooting more efficient Shai been good on defense but jokic have improved lead center in steals , so I can’t give it to shai over jokic Luka average more points, assists and rebound a just a little less efficient but Luka also shooting career high from 3 ball and shooting better then shai Luka also 10 in steals per game and 4th in guard I think it was So shai doesn’t have a chance if you want to be honest I will be surprise if he get 3 first place vote
@Gymliftpeep
@Gymliftpeep 16 күн бұрын
he cant read the defense like luka and jokic can and make the passes like they do.
@Mr.Byrnes
@Mr.Byrnes 16 күн бұрын
But he does play defense, unlike Jokic and Luka 😂
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