whom had this conversation with Harry?

They accepted a reward for airing racism in the royal family!

You’re wife makes a really good point as the fairer the skin the paler the baby clothes and darker skin looks great with brighter colours so example pale blue vs a bright royal blue ❤

@@kaz7634 The Queen killed thousands in Africa. Nigerian the Mau Mau rebellion. How is she a saint? Her entire history is on record. and so is the monarchy. 1,000 year of killing people and , stealing people's properties. WHO HAS THE AUDACITY TO SAY THE SEA BEDS BELONG TO THEM?

@@jjboyd01Tom Bardby

Oprah would never apologize 😾

Oprah doesn’t care about anyone but herself.. she couldn’t care a less what damage she done, she would do it all over again with a smile. She’s heartless and enjoys seeing people suffer

Oprah resented the monarchy because it was one of the very few places to which she was never granted access. She grew so famous that she thought every door on earth was, or should have been, open to her, no one was above her, and everyone on earth should be grateful that Oprah deigned to acknowledge them.

She owes us all an apology for almost her entire career 😂

He should also have pointed out that Rachel said there were MULTIPLE conversations during the course of her "pregnancy" with Archie and Harry said there was ONE conversation WITH HIM, NOT MEGHAN, before they got engaged! They're both liars! 😏

Probably because she wasn't pregnant when she and Harry were martied. All faked.

Hhhmmm... I never thought about that. I can see that for sure

I would probably agree with you, except she wasn't actually pregnant... but on the other hand, maybe she was concerned about the birth mother... just saying

This is something that should have been discussed with Harry when he denied they had accused the Royal family of racism. Accepting this award was proof that they had.

The mistreatment,and disrespectful attitude towards Meghan is steeped in jealousy,,hatred,and racism.

MM is just a Big Bully! Narcissist to the 10th Power!

They said that they never called the Royals racist. That doesn't mean that the Royals are not racist. I think all of you Royalist are racist to the bone. We would not be on a 7 year war of words about Meghan if she had been pure white English rose.

They need to give back the trophy 🏆.

Four of my grandchildren are mixed race. They all have dark hair and eyes but their skin color varies. Each one is beautiful and very loved. I said before each one was born this is going to be the one with blue eyes like grandma. My own children didn’t have blue eyes. Finally my youngest granddaughter has bright blue eyes, like my father had. Not that it makes one better than another it’s just a characteristic trait that was from my side of the family.

I bet he is a cute little thing. Mixed children are so beautiful

Same here ❤

yes you are correct...what she said has been interpreted as truth by many young people I have talked to...she is fostering a subtle hatred and it is being picked up by many young women...her whole narrative of being kind of used and abused because she is a woman and a woman of colour....what puzzles me is does she have an agenda or is is just a personality disorder?

-Same…

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My memory, which may be faulty, was most people seemed to think it didn't matter and that it was if anything a good thing. A bit like Sunak becoming PM (whether you like him or not).

I saw suits after Meghan got engage with Harry and I was shocked that her father in suits was a black man. I didn’t got it so I google her and then I realize her mom is 3/4 black. So Meghan isn’t 50/50. She’s 37,5 black and 62,5 white

@@lindaefraim5895 She’s 37,5 black and 62,5 white...and other things

I thought she was a latina till she mentioned that she's black, I believe her father is white.. So 🤷🏻‍♀️

That is a very fair comment. You're right.

Thank you for reminding all of us of this very important point. The fishwife is a liar.

Baby Archie was titled the moment he was born! He is the Earl of Dumbarton. Harry and Meghan like to ignore that fact, because she apparently didn’t like the idea of her child being known as “dumb”.

@oldcatlady3803, Archie gets of title duke of sussex and his dads other titles on his death, if they had remained part of the RF archie would had probably been given a title by the queen if they had made is known they would have liked one

@@juliaperry2812 I am aware of that however at the time of that conversation his mother insinuated that he was not getting a title because of his colour. He was given one that from my understanding she refused. He is now Prince as his grandfather is the King now. She that's Meghan has used their titles dispite misleading everyone. However in the first book written about them both she and her husband did not want the child to have a title.

Why do people refer to her as a journalist? She knows how to air a story, but obviously not how to tell a truth worthy story...

Oprah is not a journalist

THEY are the racists IMO

The other issue here is that the couple in other places said that the conversation regarding what color the child might be was with Harry only and prior to the wedding. Thus, Meghan only knew what Harry told her! The "what will the baby look like" conversation is very normal in the US as well as in the UK.....the only issue here is that one should remember that the child's features will resemble that of the biological mother and father prior to any cosmetic surgery.

@kathryncashner3294 Yes, you are right. I remember reading about that and it was prior to the wedding. From what I recall, there were no racist undertones to the conversation.

Because of all we’ve seen and heard of his true character since he married the ex cable tv actress I personally wouldn’t be surprised if he was the one who started the ‘skin colour debacle’ . The RF have spent a lifetime covering his indiscretions. IMO

Harry stated in the Oprah interview that the supposed conversation happened even before they were engaged. Meghan added what she wanted to to become a victim and her face dropped when Harry said that it was before they were engaged.

Agreed

True, plus the editing lingering over the shot of her reaction, but MM was clearly fishing for that reaction.

@@TheRoyalTeaHouse agree with you about Oprah..I also do hope that Monique expose Tyler… he’s no better…

Do you mean the "WHAT-TH"? They are both liars.🤥🤥

Indeed she did. But I think its now safe to say Oprah has taken a huge dent in her reputation as a consequence.

Its a common conversation in families , my children are mixed race ,,no one cared about it

Oprah's shock wasn't genuine--it was rehearsed.

Zara said that her mother made a joke about the color of his hair. Harry has very curly hair. They wondered if a child would have what kind of hair. This seems kind of normal to me.

In my view, Meghan was manipulating the narrative to cleverly accuse the royal family of racism without using the word racist.

My uncle, when I was about 8 or so, came home from his many travels and had married a beautiful woman from Puerto Rico, of fairly dark skin. I thought she was so beautiful and to my young girl's imagination, she looked like a princess to me. When discussion came up about their having a baby, I said, I hope the baby looks like Aunt A. An innocent but sincere remark. Glad my uncle hadn't married someone like MM.

They certainly don't mind suing other people!

I saw a recent news clip where someone on YT is taking the Duke & Duchess of Delusion to court for slander/defamation re: comments made during their mockumentary for NF. Don’t know if she has a chance to win it but it will be interesting to see if anyone will follow her lead (just as other Hollywood execs spoke out once the guy from Spotify did).

Harry likes to play word games, too, hence the response to Tom Bradby's interview. Harry and Megan are two awful people who deserve each other. They knew exactly what that remark in the Oprah interview would do.

A bit like the Archetype series. Always managing to get the knife in and turn.

Tricksters use wordplay

I know. If you take the words "concern about the baby's skin color" on their face, it could just as easily mean they feared he'd be so pale he could get a sunburn on a cloudy day in Scotland. I think part of the intent of how the questions and answers were formulated was to further the ease of making accusations of bigotry by claiming innocent word choices to be if not bigoted, then signs of "unconscious" bias.

yeah it is when you hate the woman whose child you're talking about, William hated her from day before he even met her, That's what all the Monarchy's Tabloids said.

IMO that was the excuse she used to ‘save face’ because she couldn’t hack it in the RF.

Concerns implies it is going to be a problem . My wife and I both carry the CF gene so there is a 1:4 chance of any child of ours having it. That's a concern. The rest is just wondering who the child will look like, will he/she be a mix. Everyone does that. Skin colour for mixed race couples, it's just another thing.

We all agree that talking skin colour within family isn't racist, however nobody was there when the conversation took place, then when, Meghan gave birth to Archie, and the baby was compared straight to a chimpanzee, and the royal family never said any single thing about it, therefore for me as a critical thinker I did believe was Meghan were talking about. Black BeltSecrets, when your Chinese wife gives birth and one of your friends compare the baby to an animal from China, I wonder what you will do? Meghan is not a stupid woman, her baby was compared to an animal and the royal family said nothing, not even a minor royal condemned it for me it says a lot.

She has no real talent, so this was about money. I think they messed up big time.

I was just thinking this same thing! Chris was flippin' hilarious on this!

Yes, he was brilliant.

Chris was excellent on that point!!

Exactly! That's why I don't buy any of Harry's B.S.

So disgusting

That is the worst part. They let Prince Phillip and HRH the Queen die as perceived racists.

@@ridinreiners MM said it wasn't either of them, implying it was someone else.

They handed themselves the award, since they bought it in the first place. And like another commentator said, accepting an award for fighting racism in the royal family proves by themselves, that they have claimed the royal family to be racist.

They both meant harm to the royal family. For Harry's wife, it was revenge. They wouldn't change years old traditions to make her the center of attention. Oprah is nothing but a race-baiter who wanted to be the one to bring down the monarchy as being racist. Both of them are vile and disgusting.

We all agree that talking skin colour within family isn't racist, however nobody was there when the conversation took place, then when, Meghan gave birth to Archie, and the baby was compared straight to a chimpanzee, and the royal family never said any single thing about it, therefore for me as a critical thinker I did believe was Meghan were talking about. Black BeltSecrets, when your Chinese wife gives birth and one of your friends compare the baby to an animal from China, I wonder what you will do? Meghan is not a stupid woman, her baby was compared to an animal and the royal family said nothing, not even a minor royal condemned it for me it says a lot.

I agree. I'm mixed race. My husband's fair colored White. Of course people came up with all sorts of combinations. None of them were racist.

@@linwei-lee110 she is trouble with a capital T.

After everything that has gone down it’s clear when M doesn’t get her way, she actively was looking for any situation matter how minor to use against her in-laws. I mean allegedly Victoria Beckham refused to give M free clothes, then what do you know!! She made allegations Victoria was selling Gossip about her to tabloids. And H confronted David about it. Talk about a friendship down the drain…

Absolutely

@@Ann-qf5vk I disagree - in any mixed race union thoughts of what the children would look like is a natural reaction and not automatically racist

Totally agree with you.

I agree. That racism row came out of the blue to the vast majority of people in the UK.

mmmm she seems to have a lot in common with our own juliarse M ....

Is the same for me. I’m latine and my husband caucasian. Both family was curieuse about skine Color. For me it was normal.

It is normal,absolutely and I also have family with mixed race children. These comments/discussions in my world are never with malice. The children are cherished and celebrated whatever. It is curiosity plain and simple. To twist that narrative to suit a poisonous agenda was appalling.

Our family is completely white, and even WE have conversations about skin tone! I'm the whitest out of everyone (I look like I've just escaped from a morgue), and my little sister is the brownest. We often compare our skin colour and laugh about it, and my mom always jokes that it's great to walk beside me because in comparison she appears to have a nice tan.

My husband 's family, Caucasian, have olive skin. He was once laughing over the garden hedge with a neighbour as they compared skin colour in the summer sunshine. My husband was darker . They were just two human beings

@@saddlerrye6725 I hear you! I can be badly sunburnt in just 15 minutes in the sun! I wish to goodness that I had more melanin in my skin! This is why I have always felt that racism purely against skin colour is absolutely ridiculous! Character is what really matters and these two have shown the world their true character, dictated neither by race, colour, nationality or gender. Both are equally despicable liars!

The Megan & Harry Three Ring Circus

Agreed, megan is MAD

Agree. But you do not need to be trained police to see through Nutmegs blatant lies. Everything from her mouth is for financial gain or to hurt someone else.

Considering at the beginning of the relationship they had to release a statement condemning the racism that Megan was apparently receiving, I believe the conversation was genuine concern about whether the baby would also be subjected to racism & how they should handle this. Discussions about the darkness of the baby’s skin is relevant. Unfortunately, the darker the skin, the more racism the baby may have been subjected to. If they weren’t having this conversation, in my opinion that would be a problem. I can understand however that coming from the US/canada, that would be a very confronting and unusual conversation and coupled with the difficulties she experienced during her pregnancy, perhaps is why her memory of the matter could be skewed. It’s hard to understand what is actually going on. A child is only given the title of prince/princess if they are a grandchild of a monarch or in direct line to the throne. Ie. william’s grand children will all be prince/princessses but Harry’s cannot. Once the queen passed, Harry’s children gained their titles. The security assignment is tied to their title/status, therefore the children now have rights to security, just like Harry. The Monarchy doesn’t set security assignment, the government/police do, so this was out of the queens control. It’s ridiculous to imply, however, that Harry’s children would be left out to the wolves. As long as they are in they vicinity of Harry & Megan, they are protected and this is reasonable to do until the queen passed & they had their own security rights. Either Megan wasn’t provided this information on how the law works on this, in which case it’s understandable how it seems unfair and as if they are being mistreated, or, Megan was informed and is choosing to give the impression the Royal family were cutting them off. Both scenarios seems unlikely. The former implies Harry has thrown her under the bus and hasn’t educated her on how the Monarchy works, ever, and is allowing her to speak on the matter without ever correcting her and explaining that the children WILL become titled prince & princess. The latter implies that Megan genuinely thinks no one understands how the lines of succession work & would feel an injustice has been served to them. Megan also may simply be appealing only to the American audience, knowing that the majority of them do not care about British Royal law etc. I just can’t wrap my head around Harry sitting back on all this about the titles and security. It makes him look cruel to Megan at worst, or intentionally manipulative towards the public at best. The British people know the law and how it all works though, so he’s allowed this to occur knowing the public will immediately not believe Megan.

Was it a case of " if I make the RF look awful, it will make me look good '

Spotting liars is a very useful skill!

@andyk7009 easy to explain. Harry has always been a dim-witted fool. Always jealous of his lot in life, as entitled as it is. He wanted out of the RF for a long time but didn't know how because he doesn't have a real job or education other than military. Along came the manipulating Markle with big plans to update the RF and make herself the most popular. Harry sat back and let her do what she wanted.

Didn't hurt her to also know about the RF motto "never complain,never explain ". She knew what a hurtful comment it was and apart from William's comment "we are very much not a racist family" which was because the RF were appalled at her comments in the OW liefest interview!

was this conversation done BEHIND your back? There's no "WE" when it cam to this Meghan was not invited, People were talking about archie behind Meghan's back and harry was not happy about it.. IT CERTIANILY WAS NOT PLESANT.

I'm a mixed race man of Asian heritage and in my extended family curiosity about an unborn's skin tone was as normal as curiosity about eye colour and hair colour.

@@jjboyd01 This was one conversation before they were even engaged. Get a grip.

​@@jjboyd01you're stretching. Even Chris rock said within b community, people wonder how dark the baby's skin tone will be if the couple had different characteristics. Chill. Everyone is not out to get you ...

I'm a mixed race girl..my boyfriend is blonde blue eyed..he is ALWAYS saying about if we had kids and he'd like them to look like me🙄..I'm NOT having babies for a long time..I'm in law school..but it's cute that he thinks about it I guess!😂

I can't believe MM was worried that her moonbumps would produce a brown child!"ALLEGEDLY

It’s too late for Oprah’s apology. She’s toast.

You are a Barrister, come on man, everyone wonders what colour their mixed race child will look like, but when they say what it would look like for the family, I mean just put two and two together, this is the all white RF and if the child came out looking like Doria is what the concern was about. Downright racism.

@@joanjohns wrong H even said the family were Not racist or did you forget that and who can believe an Insane IMO Proven Liar. I done believe Nutmeg is even the Bio Mother, the Biggest racist is M Herself!

All Oprah cares about is ratings $$$

Nicely put. I have mixed race cousins and you do speculate as to whether they will be like mum or dad. MM strikes me as someone who has real issues with her heritage.

Excellent comment!

Exactly, she gave them a platform to be toxic. They were never challenged or asked even to explain , elaborate or give evidence of there views. This is not an interview. Appallingly unprofessional on Oprah’s part.

Oprah ,professional, really !

I said unprofessional!

Well said x

Well said indeed.

Well said I cannot forgive them the pain I felt for Phillip and the Queen I can’t forget

That would be racist.

👍🏻Just as I wouldn’t want all Americans to be judged by these two women. 😊 It’s character that matters.

"People of colour". I know a CofE school sees this phrase to be against their school policy. And yet, they refused to highlight this in their scho policy. They prefer to use the term "Mixed race" verbally as opposed to writing. You could argue that not oriental people are "mixed-race" the same for Aisian, not all are of "mixed-race".

If born and raised in the USA I wonder if your reaction would be the same.

Agree! I used to watch Oprah and this interview was scripted the way Meg wanted it. Oprah normally digs deeper with more questions on almost every statement in interviews, which I kept waiting to hear her do, but she never did ask for clarification.

Oprah has never been a serious reporter. She has always been a publicity whore.

The real concern was about her not being a suitable person to marry not because of her colour. And Harry was angry not listening to his brother to slow down to get to know her better.

@@antoniadiaz7609 Exactly. It was concern about Harry rushing in with this woman who had already behaved so badly on a country weekend with Harry's friends - taking every joke they made in the worst possible way, giving her political opinions during what should have been a lighthearted event.

We all agree that talking skin colour within family isn't racist, however nobody was there when the conversation took place, then when, Meghan gave birth to Archie, and the baby was compared straight to a chimpanzee, and the royal family never said any single thing about it, therefore for me as a critical thinker I did believe was Meghan were talking about. Black BeltSecrets, when your Chinese wife gives birth and one of your friends compare the baby to an animal from China, I wonder what you will do? Meghan is not a stupid woman, her baby was compared to an animal and the royal family said nothing, not even a minor royal condemned it for me it says a lot.

She wasn't just trying to play the race card. She hyped it up and blew it up into a gigantic card. Oprah's reactions exagerated it even more. I have read they practiced the "interview." More like an attack interview. With bad intent. They knew what it would do. And it did.

Megan didn't give birth to Archie. Or lily.

Maybe, the concerns were about shade and tone and which would suit the royal family better. Hence, she saw the conversation as negative and leaning towards a white colour preference.

We all agree that talking skin colour within family isn't racist, however nobody was there when the conversation took place, then when, Meghan gave birth to Archie, and the baby was compared straight to a chimpanzee, and the royal family never said any single thing about it, therefore for me as a critical thinker I did believe was Meghan were talking about. Black BeltSecrets, when your Chinese wife gives birth and one of your friends compare the baby to an animal from China, I wonder what you will do? Meghan is not a stupid woman, her baby was compared to an animal and the royal family said nothing, not even a minor royal condemned it for me it says a lot.

​​@@danielmedical9497t wasn't a friend it was some random person on some tabloid who was promptly censored by everyone and fired.

@@danielmedical9497 That is a good analysis. The royal family said nothing even when Meghan was wronged and hurt by the comparison of her baby to a chimp. Some people's thinking is shallow and they don't dig deep enough to find the reasons for why events unfolded as they did.

@@RadiantStar8997 Because King Charles was behind everything that happened and still going on, if Charles has no authorities to condemned peoples, so why he wants to be king? he has never spoken out, because, he supports what they doing to his son and his wife end of.

It made Oprah feel superior

Wow. I didn't hear that and it was not widely published. What a manipulator. They should have taken the award back and made her make a live public apology.

Excellent point’

I saw it on youtube. I believe the reporter talking to Gail King was from the Mirror. It was live from the awards ceremony.

It was absolutely abhorrent and not the actions of a normal person who wants positive relations with their family or their husband's family! Who accepts an award for "calling out racism" in their own family and then says "Oh but they aren't racist it's unconscious bias, can we have coronation invites and money now?" It was completely hurtful to his family and ridiculous! You immediately see WHY they don't like her, and it has nothing to do with race!

Exactly! And she used the plural - 'concernS' and 'conversationS' where as I understand one person MAY have said "Wouldn't it be funny if the baby had a ginger Afro".

100% agreed. She used the word “concerned “ very much on purpose to elicit the exact reaction she got. Until, everyone figured out what a liar she is.

Just about everyone.

Happens all the time. It is almost always questioned in all families as to what the unborn child will look like. I have 3 daughters - the eldest looks like her dad the second one like me and the third a total combination of the first two. Everyone can tell they are sisters but I, even as their mother would not assume they were siblings if the were not mine.

👍🏻🙂 interesting and relatable.

just out of interest how good is your 'housekeeping' :)

Did she say she hadn't signed an NDA? I missed this, unbelievable!

Absolutely correct. I believe that she and Meghan are racists deep down inside. And strangely believe they are above us all. ALLEGEDLY!

In fact, on her CV she clearly stated she was Caucasian.

she like Obama are not black, the reference to them as Black is weird as it goes back to Nazi's/ Slavery 1 drop rule and all that. By calling Obama black for instance is a very White supremacist term/interpretation by definition, yet it's the left and so-called anti-racists that use it.

Yes and by implication the whole of Britain was racist as well. It's not racism we dislike her so much for, it her narcissism and lies we detest her for for.

Hate is not a political issue.

Me too.

she was on at four when I was a young mom and I loved that hour...it was my always watch show before the husband and dinner.....I adored her...but there were some moments over the years that started me not liking her as much...but that face when the mention is made of the baby's skin colour by the Royals....the pause...I wanted to punch the TV...because she KNOWS it is a subject that is talked about by NORMAL people.

I feel the same. I loved her! I detest her now.

Bingo !

You Royalist live in a alternative universe,and only you alone know what in the hell you're talking about.

Do you mean that people in Amerika are not speculating about how the child will look like especially if the parents are different?

Oprah set the whole thing up; she is part of the Cancel Culture.

which is weird as there is a lot of Racism within Blacks against super dark Black people

Oprah did not realize how much people respected and loved HM Queen Elizabeth II and were intelligent enough to see through all the lies and propaganda that Oprah and Meghan were trying to push..

She wasn't even there; Harry told her...

🤣

well spotted

😂😂😂

😂❤

but that was a lie. he wasnt eligible for it at the time. megan prob tried to demand them do it before he was eligible.

He was entitled to be the Earl of Dumbarton, but his parents apparently turned it down because "dumb" was part of the title. Dumbarton happens to be a beautiful city in Scotland. She also has said that she doesn't care about Titles. IMO, she lies like a rock.

Yes. Without a doubt. What else would she be implying?

@@nattyangel-zs1ir What else would Meghan be implying? "Concern about skin color" wasn't going to mean he'd be so pale he could get sunburned during a rainstorm in Scotland. I think the questions & answers were carefully crafted to expand the words/situations in which accusations of bigotry could be hurled and could not be defended against.

It shows her ignorance. No grandchildren (apart from POW"s children as he is the heir) get titles until the Queen dies. It has always been that since 1917. Harry would have known that so why didn't he tell her?

Thank you 😊

I'm Mexican, with Spanish relatives. My husband is Mexican with full mexican inheritance. Everyone was wondering how white or burnette our kids would be. Neither of us found those comments racist. Just normal conversation.

@@gabrielagaytan6575 absolutely! I for one love mixed heritage features and skin tone! ☺️

Hi fellow SAfrican. My granddaughters are mixed race too and racism has never come into my thoughts❤

@@marilynforster-towne3496 I call BS. I children and grandchildren are mixed race. One with an full Afro experiences racism. MY grandchildren look Asian , they are too young to know,

We are both considered ‘White’ South Africans. . whew! A sigh of relief.

Hi lucky granny🙏, I’m a little envious, my offspring has still not bestowed that honour on me. Blessings to you and your lovely family 🔆