So, are you buying the GT3 with or without a wing?.... (Or a GT4 RS?)
@tedlazakis5670 Жыл бұрын
Winged and manual. Its the roadable version of the GT3 Cup. It should look like it. I can understand the "wolf in sheeps clothing" appeal of the Touring so mine will be Gentian blue.
@timwilliams2343 Жыл бұрын
If I could, I'd get the GT3 with the Touring Pack and without the big wing. It is for me just a little bit cooler.
@AB-fr2ei Жыл бұрын
GT3 Touring It has the beast in a suit look
@DeanMurphyCDM Жыл бұрын
Collected my dolomite silver manual touring 4 weeks ago 😊
@eurekafarts Жыл бұрын
i was voting without until i saw it in the woops at the end of the video
@Andrew9565-AD Жыл бұрын
Well the spoiler is cool, produces downforce and makes it a better track car. The touring is let’s say a bit more elegant just because of its appearance and has faster speed because of the fewer drag
@jasonbourne7499 Жыл бұрын
Less drag
@Andrew9565-AD Жыл бұрын
@@jasonbourne7499 my bad 😅
@marcog1742 Жыл бұрын
Taller gears as well
@kabob21 Жыл бұрын
@@marcog1742 No it doesn't, the GT3 Touring doesn't have a different transmission from the regular GT3.
@marcog1742 Жыл бұрын
@@kabob21 the touring and regular both offer a manual and pdk, the gt3rs is pdk only, and is geared shorter than the manual, the manual has taller gears and a higher top speed.
@garyjohnson37518 ай бұрын
I’ve had my gt3 touring & absolutely love it and much prefer it to the winged version
@bloomazda3 Жыл бұрын
Jeezus, that sound! Almost like the V12s from the seventies.
@drdreas Жыл бұрын
There are other differences. The lower front bumper is painted body colored on the touring, black on GT3. The rear deck lid on the GT3 has a small duck tail, not present on touring. The touring has no alcantara steering wheel. These are pretty big things that mattered to me when choosing between them.
@macarows40149 ай бұрын
Are you serious?
@stevenkelby21697 ай бұрын
There are a ton of differences. For example the touring is quieter.
@nikpapado97854 ай бұрын
man these are options..
@drdreas4 ай бұрын
@@nikpapado9785they're not options. On the regular gt3 you cannot change those.
@got_gt3612 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on, got over 5k mi on my GT3 with the wing , absolutely love it!!!!
@davidmarquez301011 ай бұрын
Thanks for not having to input the same comment. Doug de Mouro said it was exactly as stiff as a gt3 and gt3rs
@papa_pt Жыл бұрын
I think it's pointless to call it a Touring without a softer suspension
@rohankhanna25453 ай бұрын
Are both suspension equally stiff
@papa_pt3 ай бұрын
@@rohankhanna2545 yes I'm pretty sure there's absolutely no difference between the suspensions
@AGC8286 күн бұрын
The only reason you buy a GT3 Touring is for the fact that it's naturally aspirated and makes you feel more Elite.. Like a "91q purist'... Not needed to get the "Porsche Experience" for talk world everyday driving... It just sounds different and has a high price tag and is hard to get.. You need to have opened 4 or 4 911s to qualify to order one heh.. Nuts.. They're sell more off this wasn't the ruler
@wolfeman11111 Жыл бұрын
Man I’ve been saying… the wing is literally only usable/noticeable when setting Nurburgring records
@AbandonedRaven Жыл бұрын
It does look slightly better without it, one of the few times I think that in regards to the GT3 version. Most modern Porches in general look better with a wing I think, but that’s just me. Edit: And the shot at about 3:55 was amazing.
@bigmacdaddy1234 Жыл бұрын
Um no. Modern Porsches look much better without a dopey looking wing.
@AbandonedRaven Жыл бұрын
@@bigmacdaddy1234 The “Um no” is a bit unnecessary when I said “but that’s just me”. In my opinion, I like them on modern Porsches, but if you don’t that’s fine too. I even agree with you with this specific car, but not with cars like the 2016 GT3 RS or the 2018 GT2 RS for instance. But again, that’s just my opinion. Edit: I think I just hate the shape of recent GT3 wing.
@mayhem8810 ай бұрын
Prefer the Touring. Id always be comparing the GT3RS to the GT3 wings and end up always wanting the 3RS.
@JamesDOConnor1916 Жыл бұрын
Great video sir awesome respect, I love me porsche especially the the GT3 touring 😀
@bits2646 Жыл бұрын
I'd rather have this engine in Sport Classic... Or the sport classic spoiler on that GT3 Touring :DD
@Greg-xk7sw Жыл бұрын
I’d get the regular GT3 and delete the spoiler for regular use and put it back when I hit the track.
@nichtfurdich3502 Жыл бұрын
TÜV sagt nein. Betriebserlaubnis erloschen, Ihr Fahrzeug wird stillgelegt!
@Indyfinnswim6 ай бұрын
i have a 992 GT3 with the wing. I drive it on the track often, but i like the look as well. The Touring version has a wing that deploys at speed and serves a purpose. I've taken off the wing and driven it a bit but I consider it unwise since the car was designed to need a wing at higher speeds. this is just my opinion and there are clearly many other opinions
@StevenVanLoven Жыл бұрын
I drove my 84 911 a week ago on these roads around Goodwood. A great setting to drive...and yes, this GT3 Touring is a fantastic car to.
@dahei870 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that must be a nice area to live near. Plenty of driving roads like this around England?
@StevenVanLoven Жыл бұрын
@@dahei870 Lot's of roads like this , yes.
@leonardoluc6362 Жыл бұрын
@@StevenVanLoven more lovely road in French, Swiss, Italy, Spain omg so much to enjoy when you own a car like this. My fav it the 718 Spyder manual.
@StevenVanLoven Жыл бұрын
@@leonardoluc6362 your spider is one of the best , mid engined , dreamcar for this ! My favorite places are like the mountain passes in the alps to the Italian Lago's ...
@JBsC6 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the porsche 911 gt3 touring. I also prefer the black window surrounding .
@kem1521 Жыл бұрын
One difference not pointed out is the colour coded front spoiler
@AGC8286 күн бұрын
True to ground++ you realize the wider the tire the LESS rubber that's actually touching gripping the road?? No city street or high-speed is anywhere near flat more maintained.. Like a closed race track.
@NicoKyunKyun Жыл бұрын
loving the look of it, road car doesn't need any wing, an under body downforce will do just fine
@dendemano Жыл бұрын
I don’t possess the driving ability for it to make any difference. Nor the money to buy it, ha ha. Enjoy…
@kmac58497 ай бұрын
My ideal 911 would be the Turbo s with the bonnet and front valance,rear central exhaust of the GT3 , just the exhaust sound to figure out😊
@JStryker7 Жыл бұрын
The touring is better. You aren’t actually racing someone with a GT3 since it’s not a true race car. A rwd car with less rear downforce is more fun
@mracer83 ай бұрын
I wouldn't drive my 911 GT3 without that BIG wing! without it! I might as well drive a Aston Martin!
@DeanMurphyCDM Жыл бұрын
There is no box you can tick to request P Zero corsas or indeed any other tire option. Tourings arrive with whatever tire porsche decided to fit in the factory. You absolutely cannot specify which. So far they’ve used cup 2’s, corsas and some Goodyear tire.
@RAF71chingachgook Жыл бұрын
Last weekend a fully streetable road legal 1963 Jag XKE did a 1:27 at Goodwood on cross ply tires. The best GT3 RS time I could find was a 1:26 on race rubber. The Jag still has a fully trimmed interior. Ah progress.
@Gravy_Master Жыл бұрын
What exactly is your point?
@PhilbyFavourites Жыл бұрын
@@Gravy_Master the point is, he’s erudite and you are much like your avatar - a fat bloke covered in sausages; stylish…..
@WELLRESPECTEDAPE Жыл бұрын
Not believing that one bud... 🤔
@RAF71chingachgook Жыл бұрын
@@WELLRESPECTEDAPE lol, look it up. Button was driving.
@RAF71chingachgook Жыл бұрын
@@WELLRESPECTEDAPE Goodwood Revival RAC race. The jag is a 1963 factory works lightweight. Race rules require crossply tires and original type brakes (solid rotor).
@KHdAnstaing3 ай бұрын
The only real touring 911 is the base model. All others are pointless outside of a track.
@jackprick9797 Жыл бұрын
Both of these are true: The soundtrack on the video is amazing yet the soundtrack doesn't do justice to what you hear in person. I know, I know, youtube compressed audio and all that but just in case some aren't aware, listen to one of these in person if you can.
@mlukubone7134 Жыл бұрын
GT3 with the wing looks better IMO
@worniboyerich90493 күн бұрын
Pointless or not, it looks to lush without wing. Amen
@th3orist Жыл бұрын
the only problem i have with the touring is that when that little wing is deployed it looks SO ugly, like i can't bear to know that this is what my car is looking from the outside right now. if it was not for that ugly little thing in the back i would get the touring but as it stands now i would take the wing version.
@hcooCАй бұрын
The GT3s just beat you up. That’s why you see so many low kms cars with 5+ owners… the experience wears thin very quickly.
@997carreradriver Жыл бұрын
Biggest aesthetic difference other than losing the rear wing is the painted front bumper.
@rubioalejo Жыл бұрын
You forgot something here ! Air drag !! That's the most important difference! Same downforce but less drag on the GT3
@leonardoluc6362 Жыл бұрын
Yes it looks better by far just personal i love the looks of the T
@mochabear88 Жыл бұрын
I love the 992 spoilers compared to the 991s
@gseric4721 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this just the other day with the SLR McLaren's rear wing 😂😂
@somebloke2238 Жыл бұрын
I'd have the touring cos I don't like swan-neck wings
@jimsteinway695 Жыл бұрын
I bought my GT3s to go to the track and I go to the track. At Fontana in California you can tell if the car is unbalanced aerodynamically. The 3 NEEDS the wing. No wing not a 3. I have a 991.2 now but one time I tore my little front spoiler on the 996 GT3 and I went back on the track without it. It was unbalanced over about 120mph without the front lip. The 3 needs it’s spoilers The iconic thing about the 3 is the wing. Without it it looks like a regular 911. I personally think the RS is too much but the regular 3 is perfect
@Moakmeister Жыл бұрын
How much downforce does the Carrera’s wing create, exactly? It doesn’t even look like an actual wing, more like just a spoiler to counteract lift.
@bobgees793 Жыл бұрын
Obviously it’s personal choice but I prefer a GT3 with a wing. Not sure why the Touring commands such a £ premium either, it should be cheaper imo
@AntoniusTyas Жыл бұрын
It's actually no more expensive than the standard GT3. Both are GBP 140k-something in UK. It's only when greedy speculators selling slots in the used car market that the GT3 Touring suddenly commands higher price over the winged GT3.
@hpman911 Жыл бұрын
To be honest the discussion is only really academic as nobody can get an allocation for a new UK GT3 let alone a Touring unless you are deemed a very very “special” Porsche customer.
@BRAINFxck10 Жыл бұрын
It should be cheaper but we all know Porsche charges MORE MONEY for LESS PARTS 😂
@mikelyon5595 Жыл бұрын
It is the best-looking 911!
@btravassos122610 күн бұрын
Long story short….. only a small percentage of high level amateur drivers can actually take advantage of downforce on a track. I drive a car with no downforce that many people drive the same car with insane aero added (c7 grand sport) and most haven’t set faster lap times. My father has a gt3 touring and I’ve driven it in south Florida and nobody bats an eye at it. Looks like a normal 911 to the average person. I’ll take that any day. There’s very few tracks that i go to that i would actually need the aero. I’ll take Hoosiers over aero almost 9 times out of ten if I’m chasing lap times
@Abaidavid Жыл бұрын
I would have the wing version and just take the wing off when I want best of both worlds
@weets69 Жыл бұрын
Luv the GT3 touring. Sleeper race car.
@ryryshredder148 Жыл бұрын
This is the first generation I would not get the touring version. The front is too aggressive to not have a wing on the back.
@AGC8286 күн бұрын
GUYS see past the marketing sales pitches... ALL 911s sold to us are DESIGNED FOR THE STREET!!!
@westsiyed Жыл бұрын
spring-rate is the same?
@antoniogrullon74046 ай бұрын
Rear steering wheel for got mention...
@greggc.touftree5936 Жыл бұрын
The wing is ICONIC you have to get it!
@Stigz34 Жыл бұрын
I’d peel that black vinyl off the sides
@jomommainoc6 ай бұрын
Wing
@PrimitiveMLG Жыл бұрын
Exhaust sounds different
@redpoll4628 Жыл бұрын
Amazing car, anyway back in the real world for most of us, what's the best suv to buy?
So the car is a fancy name for a "rear spoiler delete " option. The whizz kids in marketing need to calm down and move to decaf.
@benlecluyse Жыл бұрын
What an absolute rocket !! 🚀🚀🔥🔥
@jep1912 Жыл бұрын
Never liked the ironing board look. Give me a Touring any day.
@ryanguercio7061 Жыл бұрын
Front lower bumper is painted on the touring
@danmar007 Жыл бұрын
Oh my!! My dream car. If I could afford it I wouldn't get the outrageously ugly wing.
@BPF80MCar-vi1pgАй бұрын
It needs a ducktail
@gr4mas144 Жыл бұрын
Ultimate and best Porsche ever made for me is 930.
@millicentsquirrelhole582 Жыл бұрын
Let's take a quick unofficial poll: How many GT3 owners don't have a traffic ticky?..hmm, the results are in and the answer is 0.
@michaeljohncooper Жыл бұрын
You cannot choose which tyres it comes on. That point is incorrect
@hpman911 Жыл бұрын
I have bought several new UK Porsches and never been able to spec tyres. It’s not an option on the configurator either.
@gridrunner1319 Жыл бұрын
Touring from the rear, with its awkward little wing up, is downright “butt ugly”. Looks like any other 992 911. Get the GT3, pull the wing off in 20 minutes, have a beautiful superior Touring with a classic Porsche “duck tail wing” …. !!! Videos on that all over KZfaq ….…. 😎
@danjenkins2064 Жыл бұрын
I love the car, but the 991.2 GT3 Touring looks better in my opinion. This car’s front end is not appealing.
@morphyon Жыл бұрын
If you have to ask, …it probably is
@caliwong Жыл бұрын
Dislike the touring…why lose the downforce and get nothing in return? Why get a Gt3 at all if you’re not going to track it?
@nakmuay5525 Жыл бұрын
Watch at 1.25 speed
@simeonivanov3507 Жыл бұрын
No is not .On track is helpful.
@kriskinealy Жыл бұрын
No back to back test...Poor
@BiBooNKC Жыл бұрын
In America a Prius is the Best Road Car lmfao that gas is crazy or a Hybrid in general Teslas are too unreliable been there done that
@legendbodywork1313 Жыл бұрын
So classy but at the drop of a dime put the pedal to the floor and kill every Ferrari and Lambo in class elegant powerful with a chin up this. Porsche haves it all and this is coming from a person who had several Porsche 911 mostly air cooled. And a 993 turbo
@rallymosm3331 Жыл бұрын
I like
@rombaft Жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert, it has no spoiler
@fredianocappellaro7406 Жыл бұрын
GRANDE PORSCHE 🔝 🔝 🔝
@camburgracing Жыл бұрын
GT3 needs a wing…. Change my mind
@ltdada74 Жыл бұрын
Because the GT3 Touring and GT3 RS exist the Porsche GT3 is completely irrelevant
@brunokrisgeorgeton4482 Жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert! Spoilers are not necessary on all roads in the word, period. Plus they look kind of tacky.
@TheMystro1971 Жыл бұрын
Porsche 911s have recently become a measuring stick to one’s ego as opposed to their use and driving capabilities. Get past the wallet flexing and ego stroking and one will find every 911 is a weapon of speed from a base 911 to a 911TT. It’s just a matter of which weapon of speed that priorities your use and personal needs. Even the base 911 is 70% more car than even the spirited owner can use on the open roads. They are THE most rewarding performance car one can own. 30 years of 911 ownership as well as others in the top tier speaking. GT3 were designed purely as a track car instead of the ego flexing they’re being used today at the local Starbucks or cars and coffee.
@ifiwearthismaskyourefucked4095 Жыл бұрын
now if only they could make it front engine with two more...seats... oh wait
@JB-rp6it Жыл бұрын
Wingless is better
@Boutit03110 ай бұрын
Come home baby girl. I've seen enough videos from Serpentza about Chinese "culture."
@mutantryeff Жыл бұрын
Porke
@robertlulek1634 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion I love the giant wing on the Porsche GT three RS. To me it makes the whole car. It is the same way LAMBORGHINI STL looks fantastic with that giant wing. I love radical looking cars. Otherwise the Porsche looks like any other Porsche and boring.
@milohajek Жыл бұрын
I constantly drive my 911 C4 st 150-170 MPH, so your theory about not getting to see the missing downforce of the resr wing. Yes. I have gotten a few tickets, but with a proper attitude, genuine remorse and the ability to strike up a conversation with the officer AND pay the ticket.
@PhilbyFavourites Жыл бұрын
Is the USA the cops will just pull you out of the car and shoot you….. I think you might be drinking too much southerner moonshine….
@DOMTURISMO Жыл бұрын
Zzzzz 😴🛏️
@snail415 Жыл бұрын
Painful. Pulled the plug after the pondering. Winnie the Pooh-core.
@andresmattos7541 Жыл бұрын
Overpriced car
@hpman911 Жыл бұрын
Not in comparison with any of its direct competitors plus the running costs and residual values are much better.