Compared to reviews from the established motorbike media, motovloggers are sometimes afraid to be totally open and risk "biting the hand that feed them"... I say that as a small time motovlogger lol

@@RikkyTang I hear ya, you chaps are in a tight bind. I'm just tired of seeing so much boot licking, as a viewer (on everything). And then seeing less experienced riders mirror what they hear from big channels, its a bit disheartening. My personal philosophy is that praise without critique brings about stagnant mediocrity. Having an honest evaluation is not equivocal to biting the hand that feeds, and any company that sees it that way should not be worked with.

This channel and so many others are bs, test ride yourself , make choice, dont feed these parasites

@@crunchytheclown9694 lol

@@vector409 if you cant see it i cant help you

Praise be unto me.

How come?

…..check engine light!

16k.. cheap as well for what you get..

@@JWard2 Fast, sounds incredible, gorgeous styling, costs around 17k USD and handles like it costs 25k USD. It's also constantly trying to kill you.

Yeah us normal people have to keep in mind that motorcycle journalists ride 150+ horsepower bikes everyday. Ofc 94 is low for them but more than enough than most of us. Hope you have many fun rides on it!

@@HeyAddieImTojo I’m pretty sure he’s talking about midrange not peak power, what he said is that being a naked the riding style is different from a sport or super sport machine even though they share the same chassis and underpinnings.

@@HeyAddieImTojo The journalist reviewing the bike in this video literally said "The fact the engine is very powerful..."

Can always buy exhaust system and race tune for a little more power

Nice. The tuono 660 is on my list of bikes I want as my second bike. I’m coming from an Suzuki sfv650 as my first bike and needing a bit more power and cruise control so my options are speed triple s, mt10 and the tuono 660.

660cc is not a big bike. It is average/medium size bike. KTM 1290 is a big bike.

@@lensoprezole5322 660 is a big bike, it's not LAMS approved for learners & it's power figures make it a big bike.

Nowdays the new "600/700" are the small bikes considering newest the big bikes 1000cc+ handle 200+bhp

"Big Bike" has a specific meaning in the UK, related to the graduated licensing scheme. Younger people can't just buy a 1290 SDR, your license restricts you to smaller bikes until you qualify for a "big bike" at which point most people opt to move to around 100 horsepower for a few years even though they could technically get a Rocket 3 if they wanted (to die 😉)

@@robocombo Ok thanks for the precision. I live in europe so I didin't know about that. Have a good day.

Yup 👍🏽

guess it for someone that want the rs660 but not the sportbike riding position. i know the rs660 is alr comfortable. but maybe even that is too much for some

@@jamessmurf2929 The RS660 would not be comfortable for long periods of riding. Yeah, I'm sure there are some "tough guys" out there that will claim otherwise. But the tuono version is superior in terms of comfort. Its about as close to perfect as you can get for a middle weight sport bike for the Street. 400lbs wet, and 100HP and a comfortable riding position for longer rides. What else could you want. Once you get over 100 HP, its a waste in most instances, because you simply won't be able to use the extra power but on a very limited basis. Even 100HP is pushing it in terms of usable power on the Street.

English please🤣

Yeah but the average income in Norway is the equivalent of 52,400 pounds vs 32,000 in The UK

@@austinkaufman9402 Well, there's that, and that taxes in Norway is beyond insane. For good reasons, i'm not complaining. I just thought it worth a comparison. In Norway the MT-07 is a Lot cheaper then the Trident. But in Britain, the Trident is cheaper then the MT-07. I don't get why it's so different.

Yeah, unfortunately with a high standard of living there are almost always outrageous taxes, and usually those price flip flops are dependent on the countries strategic global trade policies. But yes, it is odd how different pricing can be depending on your location.

If excitement is why you’re looking for, then look no further than the SUPERDUKE 1290 my friend.

@@FinityXD haha yes. I've ridden one a fair bit and my last street bike was a Tuono V4 1000. Absolutely loved it but thought I might try something different. Australian motorcycle prices are astronomical atm with COVID though. The Duke 790/890 is looking mighty tempting ATM

@@onthebackwheel 890 Duke R was the best bike of 2020 so my money would go to that but I feel like it’s stupid to pay $800 usd to unlock the bike lol that’s pretty money hungry to me

@@NudaMan yes, don't start me on that! Same with this Tuono and having to add in a quick shifter and IMU and then you still get cheaper forks

@@onthebackwheel from memory Neevsey called the 890 R a bit of a one trick pony. Have you seen that review?

Coming soon...

Problem is they are not doing an A2 variant and Colchester Kawasaki are selling these for 8k at the moment. You can get A2 on the RS model though, which makes no sense at all.

It's really as simple as a different map, the engine is the same otherwise. The A2 compliant map weirdly is lacking in the midrange compared to the full fat map. But it has to be homologated and registered as 70 kW to be able to be sold as an A2 model. There's not only a power limit but also a (power-to-) weight limit. So the map has to account for all of that and ensure it doesn't breach the limit in any area whilst obviously getting as close to it as possible - might it be there is also a torque limit of some kind? As for markets, Aprilia have a strong track record of not chasing anything pre existing and simply focusing on making decent bikes. It hurts sales though because the media can't pigeon hole them for the mindless masses...

Like what? I've been wondering about that.

Thank You for posting this! I'm down to the same 3 bikes and add the Street Triple. Hard Decision. The KTM Duke 890 R is in the lead...but it just may come down to which bike I can get the best dealio on ....adding the bloodsucking software add ons to the price.

How prophetic! The new Tuono 660 Factory has one less tooth up front! My deposit is already in my dealer's hands!

How prophetic! The new Tuono 660 Factory has one less tooth up front! My deposit is already in my dealer's hands!

How prophetic! The new Tuono 660 Factory has one less tooth up front! My deposit is already in my dealer's hands!

And an exhaust system + tune…

lolz900

@@Supernova12034 I was being kind as my mate just brought one 😁

That's why I've bought the MT and 890r. Japanese housewife and Austrian saucy mare,😜 can't go wrong.

MT09 has a great engine but the ergo's are terrible and the ground clearance is a joke.....

@@MrKdr500 try the 2021 version and than make a qualified comment

I've had an MT 07 for nearly 3 years but not sure which bike to get next , don't want another yamaha though

*the 1100cc one I'm referring to

270 crank vs the 180 in your Kwakka ;)

RS/Tuono looks more exciting and sounds amazing with an sc project or an arrow system, super light weight

Maybe use a 3-cylinder from MV Agusta or Triumph then. I don't think a V3 would have any advantages over the V4 at all. Probably not any cheaper or much lighter.

@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 packaging is the only advantage, but barely really. It's more a matter of branding really, like Ducati with its twin pulse V4. Also a V3 would be unique.

They cut a V4 in half for the 660, not sure they can carve out the third cylinder. The triangle triple?

@@anxiousappliance The 660 only uses the combustion chamber and valve arrangement from the V4. Even then the specs are obviously different. I think I saw the lead engineer quoted as saying only the spark plug is the same. As a "parallel" twin the 660 won't as easily transform back to a V engine. Removing only one of the cylinders from the V4 wouldn't be that hard. Some racing series spec a 750cc formula by disabling one of the cylinders from a 1000 cc four cylinder superbike. A V3 could just be a factory engineered version of this, perhaps with a slightly longer stroke.

@@anxiousappliance The math doesn't add up for the twin to be the V4 cut in half. The V4 is 1100cc, which would translate to a 550cc twin. There's an extra 109 cc coming from somewhere.

FZ8 Lol.

@@MrKdr500 ridden one ?

@@MrKdr500 no you havent. LOL

@@problemslayer3538 You might as well get the full fat FZ1, they are practically the same price and weight but less restricted

This was filmed on the B660 Northants/Cambs borders

agreed I don't think it sits with mt 09 or the duke, if fits more like mt07 and trident although being more powerful. actually another 15-20 hp would be perfect for this bike...... you get used to the power fairly quickly, my 890 r seemed wicked fast when i first got it but now seems fairly normal....... so much so am looking at super duke or tuono v4...... its easy to back off when you want but you cant add what you dont have.... after awhile on the big bike would probably want a smaller one again, lol....... we always want change think the next genre of bikes will be relaxed sportbikes with twin motors, full fairings or sportier sport touring bikes.. .. having low end torque is far more useful on the street vs screaming an inline 4 to 15k rpms

The Shiver lives on as a Chinese project and they are targeting 110+ bhp. It mostly likely won't come here, unless they revive the Gilera branding here too.

So not a bike for Yorkshire in the U.K. then 😅. More potholes than a field full of gophers.

@@bikermike_mars1372 Or the South East tbf.

True, it should have had at least 115 bhp to play in this group.

KTM will be launching an all new 990 Duke soon, which will see a power figure North of 140 bhp.

@@abymathew295 nice! 990.... the sweet spot for capacity.

@@Senninha1960 . I think the same. It's gonna be an epic ride..😍

@@abymathew295 totally agree!

Coming soon...

Not much point ... the 790 is obsolete and has been replaced by the base model 890 .... and thats coming from a 790 owner ;)

I do love that countryside ride around Great Gidding, Winwick, Old Weston at the edge of Cambridgeshire... Good filming. Please take care going through those narrow road villages.

Yes and the softer Sachs suspension should make it a bit more forgiving to ride on the street. The RR is at the top of my list for a new bike.

@@samiam5326 I think it is the best bike a money can buy, right now. Especially in its price range, there is no real competition.

even the base tuono is a great bike @ 16k

But it's 2.5k more than the Trident and MT07

He's comparing bikes in a similar price range NOT with similar cc's - makes sense.

A lot less eh

Scott Clark. Exactly what I thought, but maybe he was referring to the MT09 which he had just mentioned.

apparently he didn't notice the 890 has around 40% more torque than the 660 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I have to assume he means the KTM 890 performance-wise is similar to the MT-09 but "a little bit perkier". I love my 890 R, but I will say having a bit of fairing (like, say, the Street Triple or this Tuono) makes a difference. I added the 270mm Powerbronze screen to the KTM and that does help a lot.

At aprilia, Factory means Ohlins suspension and never means more power.

@@lensoprezole5322 I know. I just had a thought that they might go a different direction due to all the reactions.

@@lensoprezole5322 They have never messed with the electronics or fuel curve for factory versions?

Hmm, no.

Ew

maybe not exactly those models, but the thought is nice.

Definitely not

I'd get the MV Agusta Brutale Rosso new for the same price, or Dragster/Brutale 800 slightly used. Totally different league compared to the Aprilia.

I guess the Trident is probably a more "beginner" bike, and has 20 bhp less.

based on £10k approx. price-range not cc's

It's not really an equivalent to the 650's, which all make around 60-70hp and cost a lot less. To be fair, it kind of sits in it's own hybrid category without much direct comparison - probably best to compare a little from either category.

Z900 is around 5th or 6th place in the ranking of agility of this category of bikes. KTM 890, Street triple 675, Tuono 660, GSR 750 are more nimble than the Z900. Z900 not the last of the category in 2021 but far from the best. It is a Japanese bike that means financial compromises in the components that equips the bike (frame, suspensions, brakes, abs unit, etc)

@@lensoprezole5322 MT09 2021 ?

You will every time the road turns and every time you look at the MT07.

If you want 100 hp from a 660 it's gonna be a bit peaky.

new products can have a few issues, nothing new....

660 doesn't need to be inline 4 either, plenty of inline 4's & triples so it's good to see something different.

@@MrKdr500 But trips and V's sound like sht/ass, (sport bikes) inline 4's are the way to go, better engineering, better sound.

I thought they would’ve flew out my job fast but nope we have a apex black Rs660 and the silver/red tuono 660 still sitting on the floor... all the aftermarket parts for these bikes are waaaaaaaay too overpriced I’m not giving KTM or Aprilia any of my money because it’ll be a waste

This won’t be discontinued, it will be one of the best selling bikes in the years to come. Just watch.

@@AngelSapundzhiev My comment says 'discounting', As in reducing the price.