Is The Boys Losing Its Way?

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The Critical Drinker

The Critical Drinker

3 жыл бұрын

After watching Season 2 of Amazon's The Boys, it's time to ask the question - does it measure up to Season 1, or is this show starting to lose its way?

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@TheCriticalDrinker
@TheCriticalDrinker 3 жыл бұрын
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@andyfire5737
@andyfire5737 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@federerfanatic
@federerfanatic 3 жыл бұрын
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@jrobs1133
@jrobs1133 3 жыл бұрын
Butcher's wife wasn't murdered by Homelander
@amanibob1416
@amanibob1416 3 жыл бұрын
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@brolee6830
@brolee6830 3 жыл бұрын
Don't be sulkin' about like some poncy eyeline-wearin' emo t.wat.
@thedawsman1998isawesome
@thedawsman1998isawesome 3 жыл бұрын
The all female beat down was leagues better than the horrendous all female fight scene in endgame....
@qty1315
@qty1315 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno, it just didn't feel satisfying watching it. Like, none of them could really kill each other, or incapacitate each other, so where's the danger? The best they could do was kick Stormfront a few times, knowing full well that she could escape whenever she wanted to. Though, personally, I kind of found the Maeve confronting Homelander to be the stupidest moment. Why didn't Homelander just use his laser eyes on the phone to destroy it?
@pearsegallagher106
@pearsegallagher106 3 жыл бұрын
@@qty1315 i would guess homelander just assumes there is more then one recording so if destroys that one and kill maeve elaina will release another copy
@voidheart4553
@voidheart4553 3 жыл бұрын
@@qty1315 Yeah it really felt tacked on and the Maeve confronting homelander thing? Like after all the shit HL did to try to get his son back, he could have killed maeve and butcher, destroyed the phone and then go to find Elaina, he literally could have done anything, instead he does nothing because this entire season was "blackmail the plot device".
@Allendude51
@Allendude51 3 жыл бұрын
@Domagoj Čović At this point that kind of thing is implied. Someone making a threat like that would know to have a backup just in case.
@Rotcivcom
@Rotcivcom 3 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with that scene is that Maeve came out from nowhere She didn't know where they were, and didn't arrive with a car or helicopter. She basically just happened to go exactly where all the characters were on foot
@mainaccount6149
@mainaccount6149 3 жыл бұрын
Stupidest part for me was when frenchie shouted “quick we need to get the rocket launcher in the car” like maybe don’t say that in front of storefront or else she would immediately blow it up like she did.
@Kobrar44
@Kobrar44 3 жыл бұрын
I never know if I should cringe at those or appreciate them as "comic adaptation" jokes.
@GenericName86
@GenericName86 3 жыл бұрын
Yea that was pretty dumb.
@DTAmaine
@DTAmaine 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Or even don't leave it in the car in a combat situation
@BigStickyNugs
@BigStickyNugs 3 жыл бұрын
THE PLOT DEMANDED IT!
@papiputra
@papiputra 3 жыл бұрын
That is how one acts during combat
@ethananthony8439
@ethananthony8439 3 жыл бұрын
That moment when Queen Maeve, Starlight, and Kimiko beat the shit out of Stormfront is kind of purposefully in your face. It is meant to parody those girl power moments they never get right in superhero cinema. Hell, they even have Frenchy say the "Girls get it done." line from that cringey ad the one lady had made earlier in the show. At least that's how I interpreted it.
@vanessac1721
@vanessac1721 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I liked it.
@Sofiaode18
@Sofiaode18 2 жыл бұрын
Maeve saving the day out of nowhere was really weird (how did she know where they were located? It's not like she could fly and locate them easily either), but the parody on girl power moments is amusing, though probably people who didn't like the scene are too put off by girl power moments that even parodies of it makes them cringe. Oh well, it's nice to have women front and center for a change because the default for superhero movies have always been men.
@TulpechaidoplaysMC
@TulpechaidoplaysMC 2 жыл бұрын
It was making fun of it with the movie set shit and the #girlscandoit thing And then they just did it themselves It felt really dumb
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 2 жыл бұрын
It's like the ads is the foreshadowing for the Season Finale.
@vrolijk9865
@vrolijk9865 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sofiaode18 agreed. Although Maeve saving the day, was not really out of hoe where. It was hinted at and build up through out the season that Maeve would step up and help starlight, starlight even came to her just before to ask for help. And then when Stormfront was exposed that was the final straw and she stepped up. Also her knowing where they are makes sense, as basically every supe has that build in gps tracker. So if you pick up on every hint in the season, it is anything but out of nowhere. Only potential plot hole is how she got there so fast. Maybe she has a jet like wonder woman, although i do not think this is the case. She probably has the same thing as black noir, where she is basically faster than a car and that is how she got there so fast
@ogreface8
@ogreface8 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little late, but the trio beating down Stormfront made total sense. They were the only ones who could fight her because they were the only ones with superpowers.
@Kronosfobi
@Kronosfobi 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, Nah. The boys had a plan and devices to render Stormfront's powers useless. And apperantly in the comics, They just do that. A lot of things have been changed in the show. Including the gender of the stormfront.
@ogreface8
@ogreface8 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kronosfobi They did have devices to defeat Stormfront... until she blew them up. I don't think anybody's too upset about the gender swap, the character in the comics was pretty bland and forgettable. Switching it up allowed for more originality and added layers to the Homelander relationship that they couldn't do in the comics (unless they were both gay). There aren't too many comic book adaptions that are 100% faithful to the source material anyways. Sorry for the paragraph, hehe. Cheers.
@Kronosfobi
@Kronosfobi 3 жыл бұрын
@@ogreface8 You got me wrong. Im 100% on board with the new Stormfront. Im not trying to argue comics is better because I only know that the Boys managed to beat the Stormfront in the comics, I didnt read them. I enjoy the show as it is (with the minor problem of character arcs the drinker mentioned on the video but eh, can be tolerated.) Cheers :)
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kronosfobi Huh. I respect your sense of respect. I haven’t seen anyone get butthurt about Stormfronts gender swap. And if there are, they’re silly and need to go find something worth bitching about.
@AA-tz2bm
@AA-tz2bm 3 жыл бұрын
@@ogreface8 there’s no stormfront in the comics. Only Nazi static electrical door mat
@iomis2001
@iomis2001 3 жыл бұрын
The guy who plays Homelander is perfect.
@ClarenceDass
@ClarenceDass 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen him in Banshee? He was pretty cool in that show too.
@evan9180
@evan9180 3 жыл бұрын
He looks like a cross between Jason Bateman and Bradley Cooper.
@princevegeta7487
@princevegeta7487 3 жыл бұрын
@@evan9180 holy shit that is SPOT ON! 🤣
@magnieto1
@magnieto1 3 жыл бұрын
Whole cast is pretty effing good, IMO
@findout2655
@findout2655 3 жыл бұрын
Truly a starr
@r5037
@r5037 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just mad that Starlight, who's ONLY power is absorbing and using energy, got hit and damaged by Stormfront's plasma blasts. Like come on, I was waiting a whole season for Stormfront to accidently supercharge Starlight much like Thor did to Ironman in the first Avengers.... I mean like that is her ONLY ability... "absorbs energy"... Are her powers actually useless just like Butcher said? lol
@kohth5027
@kohth5027 3 жыл бұрын
She can only absorb electricity and storefront uses Palma it’s kinda dumb but oh well.
@r5037
@r5037 3 жыл бұрын
@@kohth5027 True, but much like a Tesla coil, her plasma is just electromagnetic energy ionizing the air around it. Basically she just makes thunderbolts when she flies. It's just electricity. But ya, oh well.. I didn't know why I expected more. They cheaped out her power's special effect into a screen flash "whiteout" effect both seasons. XD
@irelandgrt
@irelandgrt 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. I wondered if they didn't do it because of that scene in the Avengers.
@TheJNastayy
@TheJNastayy 3 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing. I was like 'wait, shouldn't Starlight just soak that up and hit her back twice as hard?' Like Bishop from Xmen.
@_Digishade_
@_Digishade_ 3 жыл бұрын
This also kind of blew my mind, as well. I assumed Starlight being around was going to be a literal hard-counter to Stormfront's bullshit, but the fact that she wasn't even remotely close to that bugged the hell out of me.
@themetroidprime
@themetroidprime 3 жыл бұрын
Now to be fair, AOC being a vilain in the end was an unexpected plot twist.
@Bolter024
@Bolter024 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad she's a villain in real life
@vaibhavs5434
@vaibhavs5434 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bolter024 Lmao what did she do?
@Bolter024
@Bolter024 2 жыл бұрын
@@vaibhavs5434 You can look that up quite easily
@vaibhavs5434
@vaibhavs5434 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bolter024 I tried...but it aint showing up...i want to hear from you
@vincenturbina
@vincenturbina 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bolter024 Come on bud, please explain to me how AOC is worse than MTG or Lauren Boebert. You've drank too much kool-aid...
@MachoMan_Vert
@MachoMan_Vert 3 жыл бұрын
The Homelander is so well presented in this show that he actually terrifies me whenever he's on screen. (Apart from the fact he can be tamed by a simple blackmail.) And I really hope they don't mess him up.
@777heartsdesire
@777heartsdesire 3 жыл бұрын
He’s tamed by it because he needs people to love him anything that jeopardizes that is a huge threat to him. He’s a big manbaby
@tyhussein
@tyhussein 3 жыл бұрын
I guess character archs arent your favorite thing either.
@777heartsdesire
@777heartsdesire 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyhussein you didn’t contribute anything to the conversation.
@tyhussein
@tyhussein 3 жыл бұрын
@@777heartsdesire I’m responding to OP, not you. Idk what you mean.
@unhandmeprrriest4601
@unhandmeprrriest4601 3 жыл бұрын
That’s where I have high hopes for season 3. Once he loses his need to be loved by everyone (if he does) then blackmail won’t stop him from literally doing anything he wants.
@DarkDoomguy
@DarkDoomguy 3 жыл бұрын
I think the main problem with the show is that they're kinda getting into a corner, because in the comic the boys had a way to actually fight, and kill, the supes, meanwhile in the show they kill translucent early, and then... nobody, for a long time. I mean shit, Butcher's name was so fitting because that was also what he did - he had zero mercy for anyone superhuman.
@rapidvetD
@rapidvetD 3 жыл бұрын
They did kill some in the mental institution tho and that dude with telepathy
@nlawson2004
@nlawson2004 3 жыл бұрын
​@@rapidvetD You mean telekinesis. The one that flipped the van over, right. Funny thing is, there was that chick that escaped the institution that hitchhikes at the end, with the shaved head, that basically has the same power as Victoria Neuman. But we never saw her again.
@rapidvetD
@rapidvetD 3 жыл бұрын
@@nlawson2004 no i meant the dude that played the kid in the sixth sense died too. He ratted the boys to homelander then billy went and bashed the dude's face on a public sink. And yeah there was that dude that flipped the van over and injured hughie
@nlawson2004
@nlawson2004 3 жыл бұрын
@@rapidvetD Oh you’re referencing season 1? The _I see dead people_ kid was in The Boys? Completely drawing a blank. Gotta look that up.
@nlawson2004
@nlawson2004 3 жыл бұрын
@@rapidvetD Oh yeah, that’s crazy. Just googled it. Don’t remember that brutal scene though, but I believe it.
@federicosaldias1222
@federicosaldias1222 3 жыл бұрын
Forgot about how the Lamplighter storyline was getting interesting... And then he... Kills himself?
@guilherme5094
@guilherme5094 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@naytny5819
@naytny5819 3 жыл бұрын
yeah that part was rushed
@williampoole1742
@williampoole1742 3 жыл бұрын
He quickly became my favorite hero and idk why, he just seemed like a real character instead of "good or bad". They handled that story about as well as they handled the entire show this season.
@naytny5819
@naytny5819 3 жыл бұрын
@@williampoole1742 yeah but he could have atlleast got more episodes
@judevaughan6595
@judevaughan6595 3 жыл бұрын
He would've been killed in the court scene if not then
@portsidedyldo2661
@portsidedyldo2661 3 жыл бұрын
I like the on-running joke that whatever sea creature the deep talks to they almost immediately die in the next scene. I was wondering how they were gonna kill the whale when it first appeared and I was laughing my ass off when it died
@matthewburdette248
@matthewburdette248 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao I never noticed that but it continues in season 3 lmao
@Merces69
@Merces69 Жыл бұрын
Wow i did not realise that. Good one. Everytime the deaths get more sadistic
@joshuasatterwhite9520
@joshuasatterwhite9520 Жыл бұрын
@@Merces69 and he probably fucked all of those animals too 💀
@Fly0Low
@Fly0Low Жыл бұрын
and also there almost always something sexual with them too
@ExplosiveBrohoof
@ExplosiveBrohoof Жыл бұрын
I actually really hated this. After the third or fourth time it happened, it became clear that we were not supposed to take any of the deep's psychological trauma seriously, which left a really bitter taste in my mouth. I heard it got worse in the later seasons and decided the show wasn't worth watching anymore partly because of that.
@thefilmadvocate6192
@thefilmadvocate6192 2 жыл бұрын
The "girls get it done" scene didn't feel forced to me at all It made sense since the female characters in the scene were the ones with super powers
@LetsGetitBoah
@LetsGetitBoah Жыл бұрын
It was meant to parody the Endgame female scene. Kind of making fun of it.
@daltonmoore233
@daltonmoore233 Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t forced at all, he’s just a hard right fucker who doesn’t like any female characters
@jandipopo_art2012
@jandipopo_art2012 Жыл бұрын
Well surprise surprise the critical drinker is right leaning so he hates everything that has a pinch of being woke lol.
@nativedisciple2452
@nativedisciple2452 Жыл бұрын
This drinker guy clearly just hates women and everything that doesn’t cater to his political views lol
@darkvisiongothacked
@darkvisiongothacked Жыл бұрын
also i just want to note: i loved that line. not just because its clearly tongue in cheek poke at certain real world tropes, but it also TOTALLY fit the character. Frenchie has always been for lack of a better word a total pussy around women. his character has always been in awe of strong women, its very clearly a defining characteristic of his personality. So when he says that line..it just fits. He totally would say that, not because of some "the message" or whatever, but because that is just how he is. he would think nothing of men doing the same thing, it wouldnt even get him to blink, but any time he is around a strong female he becomes a complete and utter fan boy. and i fucking love that about his character. its refreshingly different.
@trevorp8124
@trevorp8124 3 жыл бұрын
I did sort of enjoy the anti-marketing going on: -Nobody drinks Fresca except cult members -Protagonist hates Almond Joys; later used to nearly kill someone
@ChicagoT3d
@ChicagoT3d 3 жыл бұрын
Black noir did die and they used a shitton of compound V to bring him back. That's why he is a vegetable now.
@Dragonage2ftw
@Dragonage2ftw 3 жыл бұрын
And?
@KurosakiRuka
@KurosakiRuka 3 жыл бұрын
is Fresca even a real thing? i thiught it was foreshadowing like mind control of the church for the next season
@dpwellman
@dpwellman 3 жыл бұрын
@@KurosakiRuka I admit I suspected the same, however, I uess it was something of a red herring after all (as was the Compound V escapees). But, after ep 7, my money on the head poppers was either the Church or "Not Ocasio-Cortez".
@landychapman3
@landychapman3 3 жыл бұрын
@@KurosakiRuka YES it is (was) a real product back when I was a kid (1970's) like Mr. Pibb (Dr. Pepper clone), RC cola (Coke/Pepsi clone)... Fresca was the (Sprite, 7-Up clone) .. Someone else can chime in... 43 year old memories failing -- Never drank any of them.
@dynamite_dynamite5954
@dynamite_dynamite5954 3 жыл бұрын
Season 1: high audience rating | decent critics rating. Season 2: high critics rating | decent audience rating. Hmmmm... where have I seen this before?
@lickitysplit9019
@lickitysplit9019 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because 80% audience rating is only 'decent'
@omarct
@omarct 3 жыл бұрын
All you have to do nowadays is insert some woke nonsense/ female empowerment crap to get stellar reviews from most of the critics.
@bbrebozo6417
@bbrebozo6417 3 жыл бұрын
@@omarct and this is exactly why it’s going the wrong way. Get woke go broke.
@friedfrog5447
@friedfrog5447 3 жыл бұрын
@@bbrebozo6417 I thought it was super popular despite its woke crap
@Noname15514
@Noname15514 3 жыл бұрын
Once the a certain narrative gets preached, the bad writing gets ignored.
@LSDJ4Y
@LSDJ4Y 2 жыл бұрын
The all female fight at the end doesn’t seem forced at all, they built the characters properly not around their gender or their ideology but on their actual development and the payoff made me audibly excited
@hez859
@hez859 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Starlight, kimiko and Maeve all had legit beef with stormfront so it didn't feel forced at all. Kimiko's whole arc that season was the trauma of losing her brother and being scared of stormfront
@bubblehead4270
@bubblehead4270 Жыл бұрын
@@hez859 I do wish we could’ve seen more between Kimiko and Stormfront for that very reason. Felt like it was cut short after an entire season of wanting to watch Kimiko beat her ass lol.
@shreeshanthkadam3011
@shreeshanthkadam3011 Жыл бұрын
This guy doesn't know to enjoy anything.Hes just searching for "wokeness" and "preaching" in every other thing.
@fawful7457
@fawful7457 Жыл бұрын
Well it's the Picky Alcohol Consumer. Anything where girls are more than titular macguffin for male protag to save their ass 24/7. Rami MJ is a prime example. Sure her chemistry with Tobey's Peter Parker was great, but every film she gets kidnapped by the main villain. I like Zendaya's MJ far more than Kristen Dunsts' MJ because she's not only capable of being self-sufficient, but she's also snarky and a smartass. Plus it's not like she's a do-no-wrong woman, she does get in peril during Far From Home's final battle where Mysterio's drones were targeting her, Happy, Flash, and Ned. Starlight, Queen Mave, and Kimiko are quite exceptional characters in that they're not strong female characters for the sake of feminism empowerment (Unlike Rey or Carol Danvers), they are actually CHARACTERS with flaws of their own.
@43YrOldWoWCatLady
@43YrOldWoWCatLady Жыл бұрын
@@shreeshanthkadam3011 I would say he is just pointing out how invasive it is in modern entertainment.
@radroach9201
@radroach9201 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to disagree about Maeve's arc. She's traumatized, beat down, depressed and still terrified. Her arc is about a survivor who can barely cope, trying to reclaim her dignity by the end of it all, and has some solid celebrity parallels besides. I think that character story was actually quite well handled, though I agree on most other points about the season's failings.
@JohnSmith-gi2oy
@JohnSmith-gi2oy Жыл бұрын
Shes barely hanging on to any reason to care about what is going on
@msdm83
@msdm83 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the female beat down was a parody of endgame.
@bronsonmacleod8533
@bronsonmacleod8533 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was mocking the girl power thing they did in a earlier eppisode
@lickitysplit9019
@lickitysplit9019 3 жыл бұрын
it is, the writers confirmed it
@Willow-ej7sc
@Willow-ej7sc 3 жыл бұрын
@@bronsonmacleod8533 no shit
@RandomizedCTRL
@RandomizedCTRL 3 жыл бұрын
How is doing a similar thing an effective parody?
@shady8261
@shady8261 3 жыл бұрын
Except better
@wy4553
@wy4553 3 жыл бұрын
The level the plot armor the human characters have is absolutely ridiculous
@visorseen8954
@visorseen8954 3 жыл бұрын
They made the power levels too contrasting imo
@DiggitySlice
@DiggitySlice 3 жыл бұрын
Now that the superpowers are artificial they wrote themselves around that. Anyone can get them! Sounds awful imo.
@mikeskinner315
@mikeskinner315 3 жыл бұрын
@@DiggitySlice An in-between for how the show is doing it, compared to how the comics did it, would have been nice. In the comics the boys were all V'd up and could fight almost all the supes, which was a bit OP, but having none of them use it in the show makes the entire thing even more unrealistic. I'd like to actually see fights scenes between the main characters, but since the supes could kill them with a pinky, that's never gonna happen lol.
@patwest1815
@patwest1815 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeskinner315 But that would just make it another X-Men.
@mikeskinner315
@mikeskinner315 3 жыл бұрын
@@patwest1815 not necessarily, it didn't give any of them actual super powers, they were just strong enough to deal with the lower level supes. They still couldn't handle the actual seven and that's where all the blackmail and whatnot comes in.
@Hurrishane03
@Hurrishane03 3 жыл бұрын
This show has more balls then a formulaic Marvel/DC movie ever could have
@dcmastermindfirst9418
@dcmastermindfirst9418 2 жыл бұрын
1. It's than not then. 2. This show is just blatantly ripping off the Justice league. go do some research and take an English lesson, kid.
@Hurrishane03
@Hurrishane03 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Kid? I’m probably older than you😂😂 Good job you can spot a spelling error, you must be so smart. The fact that you named yourself a DC name says all I need to know.
@armin614
@armin614 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 did ya know the writer of the comic book hated superheroes. He intentionally ripped off every popular superhero, gave them shit names and personalities. Cause he's tired of superheroes. The series changed many things and made it much better, tho ig someone like you who only consumes product wouldn't understand.
@dcmastermindfirst9418
@dcmastermindfirst9418 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hurrishane03 Yeah. I'm definitely smarter than you. I can spell basic words correctly.
@felipeandres3645
@felipeandres3645 2 жыл бұрын
@@dcmastermindfirst9418 omg, didn’t know people could tell whether you are intelligent based on a grammatical mistake made on the internet!
@own4801
@own4801 Жыл бұрын
The "girls get it done" scene came so nautrally and made so much sense compared to something like the "she's got help" scene. I didn't notice at all that it was all girls fighting until Frenchie pointed it out.
@haleylogsdon8791
@haleylogsdon8791 Жыл бұрын
Nah it was still cringe and him pointing it out made it even worse
@jira6423
@jira6423 Жыл бұрын
@@haleylogsdon8791lol
@ladfromearth5791
@ladfromearth5791 Жыл бұрын
I was chill with it until frenchie made the statement. Which sucks because I really like frenchies character shame he was done dirty with a line like that.
@mathematoligiser-iserist2007
@mathematoligiser-iserist2007 Жыл бұрын
@@ladfromearth5791 Stormfront was always the loudest and most obnoxious with the "girls get it done" narrative. The line being used while getting the shit beaten out of her makes it all the more perfect. I see it as frenchie saying it ironically and not because he now somehow came to some realization he hadn't had before - mind you, he knows exactly how well his goth gf gets things done and that he can rely on her when needed.
@PanHanos
@PanHanos Жыл бұрын
​@@haleylogsdon8791 you litterally can't understand a single layer of irony?
@TheLevitatingFleem
@TheLevitatingFleem 3 жыл бұрын
If you think about it though, The Deep is the secret hero of the entire season. Without his dumbass, Maeve wouldn’t have been able to save Billy with that crash footage. And A-train wouldn’t have been able to steal the documents on Stormfront. None of the main characters would have been able to really do much without the few little things he unknowingly did for them lol
@elmiraman
@elmiraman 3 жыл бұрын
The deep will be the ultimate redemption arc - you’ll see.
@wesdog784
@wesdog784 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that's not really good storytelling. The Deep didn't do anything important to the rest of the story, he was just doing his own thing. The only reason for us following The Deep is so the people around him could be used to give other characters plot armor.
@leonhartdragomir8948
@leonhartdragomir8948 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesdog784 Totally agree. The Deep was pretty much used as a plot device to facilitate easy fixes to neatly tie up the end of the season. And, beyond that, he was pretty much just used for comedy. His story went barely anywhere this season.
@TheLevitatingFleem
@TheLevitatingFleem 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonhartdragomir8948 Super curious where they’ll go with him. I can’t even predict what he’s gonna end up doing as be didnt do anything in the books. I’m just glad the actor is funny, otherwise his story really wouldn’t work at all for me
@MandaloreTheReclaimer
@MandaloreTheReclaimer 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck fresca
@dunderminnet
@dunderminnet 3 жыл бұрын
Season 2 basically boiled down to "I'm blackmailing you so do as I say" - the plot device
@ABonafideSkeleton
@ABonafideSkeleton 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm blackmailing you so do what I say." "Where's your evidence?" "Just trust me." "Okay don't kill him."
@Ari33sa
@Ari33sa 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got really annoyed by it tbh. I was really glad when last episode, who was it? District Attorney or Judge or whatever? that Mallory wanted to blackmail was like 'what you have a video of me screwing my maid, please release it, I beg of you!'
@louisromero2320
@louisromero2320 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ari33sa it was defence secretary
@RafaelCabreraAzrael
@RafaelCabreraAzrael 3 жыл бұрын
thats exactly as the comics tho
@Pink.andahalf
@Pink.andahalf 3 жыл бұрын
It's like they read the comics, saw how much blackmail there was and thought, "that'll fill an extra hour!"
@MurderMostFowl
@MurderMostFowl 2 жыл бұрын
I actually appreciate the Deep’s character… his story arc goes completely differently than the rest of the show… he’s the “Better call Saul” to The Boys’ “Breaking Bad”. It’s small stuff but I enjoy the emotional exploration he goes through and how pathetic he sees himself. It’s so weird and interesting to me.
@robertrynard7397
@robertrynard7397 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this review missed that point. It talks about how the Deep hasn't changed and earned a redemption but I think that was the whole point. It was a satire of celebrities who do terrible things and use religion and pr manipulation to act like they have changed for the better when they haven't changed at all.
@vassalofthenight9945
@vassalofthenight9945 Жыл бұрын
I dislike it tbh. The Deep feels less like a character and more like a stand-in for an actual sexual predator that one of the writers wrote into the show to make them suffer incessantly and show them experiencing awful things (like when the girl he invited called him freak, stuck her fingers in his gills and pretty much raped him on screen) as a some sort of fucked up coping mechanism of projecting their own traumatic events onto the screen. It really does feel personal what they're doing with the character and the preachy, heavy handed message of vengefully making the predator suffer is only superficially aligned with the tone of the show, it stands out but not in a good way
@bubblehead4270
@bubblehead4270 Жыл бұрын
@@robertrynard7397 good point, feels like you put into words what I couldn’t articulate regarding Deep’s story.
@bubblehead4270
@bubblehead4270 Жыл бұрын
@@vassalofthenight9945 At first, I thought the scene with Deep being raped on scene would be a way for him to grow as a character as he reflects on what is essentially karma. That whole thing is ignored and the season continues to show that he’s a celebrity who doesn’t change his ways (much like the comment before mentions). If I understand your comment correctly, the implication of Deep’s response to the rape event and the season concluding with Deep not learning a thing are grossly misaligned. So it seems like the rape event is just used for the writers to feel good about themselves and can be taken out if their goal was to show how celebrities never change after scandals they’re involved in.
@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro
@DannyDevitoOffical-TrustMeBro Жыл бұрын
@@bubblehead4270 I just want to point out after all that you and the other commenter said about him, is that his name is Deep, but he’s a very shallow character/person.
@nukiesduke6868
@nukiesduke6868 2 жыл бұрын
Them crashing into the whale was the most hilarious thing I've seen in years. The look and reaction of the deep during it was the cherry on top.
@ChicagoT3d
@ChicagoT3d 3 жыл бұрын
The 'girls really do get it done' scene was taking a shot at Marvel and their female power scene in End Game and how ridiculous it was.
@ZeRafut
@ZeRafut 3 жыл бұрын
Then I think it did a poor job imo, I didn't know it was a parody and the first time I saw it I thought it was as cringy, if not more, then the scene in endgame. Due to how on the nose it is.
@diamongameri5004
@diamongameri5004 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say the scene in avengers was ridiculous exactly. At most it brutally threw me out of the movie for a few seconds xD. But yeah. The scene from the boys was awesome!
@comradesam3382
@comradesam3382 3 жыл бұрын
Even if its not mocking at least in this context it makes sence since only girls there were supes, unlike in Endgame where I just tought "How the fuck did they coordinate that on the fucking battlefield"
@hmm7829
@hmm7829 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZeRafut It didn't do a poor job, at all. Sorry, but your opinion fucking sucks. It was mocking the "girls get it done" theme it had previously set up earlier in the show around episode 4 or something. And this was a mockery of how third wave feminism and female shows of power has been very unsubtly and sometimes unintelligently injected into modern day cinema. Simultaneously, the scene was also a callback to a scene in the comics where the original Stormfront is beaten down in the exact same way. (Only difference is the genders are all flipped and the characters issuing the beatdown are different.) *Almost everything in this show is a parody of something. And it certainly isn't the fault of the show that you failed to realise that.*
@samwalker5112
@samwalker5112 3 жыл бұрын
@@hmm7829 glad you pointed out this was in the comic and is literally how Stormfront dies in it. I saw it as a nice callback to the comic and a jab at Marvel, and I fully agree, it’s not the shows fault some people didn’t get that.
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 3 жыл бұрын
Thought the middle was a bore, thought it had lost its edge. Brought it back near the end, but next series needs a bit more focus and the stuff we loved about series 1. Homelander was fucking brilliant though.
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink 3 жыл бұрын
The hanging middle could've been glanced over had they released the show all at once or in the packs of 2-3 episodes.
@achilles8530
@achilles8530 3 жыл бұрын
With Seth Rogen and all his far leftist friends at the helm of production I doubt the show will be getting any better
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 3 жыл бұрын
@@DzinkyDzink Agreed, that story went nowhere and din't need 3 episodes. I wanted more super villains too.
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonbaxter2254 Actually that could be a good idea for the 3rd season. Introduce a group of people that are neither Vaught nor Boys and a genuine threat to both.
@nighttrain1236
@nighttrain1236 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the first season was a bit one-note anyway. Once I'd seen a few episodes I found I'd seen them all and so I found it a chore to watch the whole season.
@Xzsh-ol9jg
@Xzsh-ol9jg 2 жыл бұрын
I think the show knew what it was doing with the female trio fight scene, it was clear with frenchies insanely cheesy line that the show was both making fun of the stereotype and helping drive the plot as these women have been badly affected by stormfront and also the only people there in the fight range that have powers. Starlight was threatened and silenced by stormfront and exposed her, kumiko had the worst from her as stormfront killed her brother and maeve just hated her guts and felt like SF was fueling homelanders rampage
@Darkington
@Darkington 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe they made Love Sausage such a minor character in the show, feelsbadman.
@jurekavcic4369
@jurekavcic4369 3 жыл бұрын
He is not dead yet. He could become a major charater later in the show.
@matthewwoodcock
@matthewwoodcock 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Kripke has confirmed he’ll be back for season 3, most likely not as a big role though :)
@t-god2439
@t-god2439 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao you wonna see more of that that love sausage? If I was mothers milk I would have shot him after we left 😂
@iamnotjcook
@iamnotjcook 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewwoodcock Oh it's a BIG role. Just maybe not an important one
@Pink.andahalf
@Pink.andahalf 3 жыл бұрын
It does kinda suck the way they put him in.
@kullenberg
@kullenberg 3 жыл бұрын
No one talks about how Starlight outright murdered a innocent man who pulled a gun in self-defence when he was in the process of being carjacked.
@dogsdreamtoo8427
@dogsdreamtoo8427 3 жыл бұрын
@Winter Green Bruh that was a jab at ANTI- 2a folks. He drew his gun in self-defense, because he was being attacked. Then he was murdered by a "good guy" for having a gun even though it was perfectly justified to draw his firearm in self-defense.
@Pikayumyums
@Pikayumyums 3 жыл бұрын
Yea that moment was...bad...it didn't even get brought up again? Like she just accepted it. They murdered him and hijacked his car. I'm all for protagonists put in morally conflicting situations but this didn't feel like that. Just felt clear cut wrong as fuck, especially when she justified it as "all i was thinking was why did you pull out the damn gun???" ??? Because you were fucking mugging him???
@sissyphussartre2907
@sissyphussartre2907 3 жыл бұрын
Not everything has a deeper political meaning for fucks sake
@zealot8904
@zealot8904 3 жыл бұрын
@@sissyphussartre2907 Wrong
@user-pf6cm6dr6i
@user-pf6cm6dr6i 3 жыл бұрын
And then she blamed the guy for his own murder. Zero afing responsibility.
@bk138gt6
@bk138gt6 2 жыл бұрын
Considering the reveal at the end of the last episode of who the ultra woke congresswoman really is, I don't think your assessment regarding messaging over story is entirely fair
@sivad1025
@sivad1025 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they don't blow it. Having the AOC character support big corporations while preaching socialism is an awesome jab. I swear, if she turns out to be a Nazi I'll lose it
@bk138gt6
@bk138gt6 2 жыл бұрын
@@sivad1025 pretending to be for the working class while conspiring with big business is something the nazis definitely did
@MasterHall117
@MasterHall117 Жыл бұрын
The all females beat down was funny and on purposely in the face, with Ashley saying “girls get it done” earlier in the season, and the show already calling the media out and making fun of it. I found it really funny
@shaevizla
@shaevizla 3 жыл бұрын
Homelander's arc in S2 is great. After killing Stillwell, you get the impression he can do whatever he wants now and he doesn't need anyone. But reality sets in and he actually can't. After facing Stan Edgar and his public image crisis - he learns that he's actually quite needy of being worshiped by the public and doesn't actually have any control over Vought. His whole schtick seems to be about him trying to control everything and failing at it, not a type of arc we see often in villains. On the note with Hughie, the first season was very centered around him, it's understandable why they want to spend the second one on other characters lives, this time mostly focusing on Billy and Homelander - we got to see their similarities, parallels but also what sets them apart ultimately.
@adronius147
@adronius147 3 жыл бұрын
In fact I thought Hughie was super realistic in the first season, I couldn't relate to any other character quite like him.
@stevem2323
@stevem2323 3 жыл бұрын
The worst part is the SJW bullshit arround Stormfront, it's so obvious Trump card.
@truecaliber1995
@truecaliber1995 3 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, I think each character has a significant or minor role to play in this house of cards. Remove one and the whole thing comes crashing down....Okay, that might be a bit of a hyperbolic anology, but you get the point. Without Kimiko, Frenchie, Mother's Milk, Hughie, Butcher, the entirety of The Seven, etc, there'd be something missing; a piece of the puzzle that completes the image.
@truecaliber1995
@truecaliber1995 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevem2323 Honestly, I felt the beat-down was well-deserved and properly built up. Not only do Starlight, Maeve, and Kimiko all have a clear reason for wanting to beat the crap out of Stormfront, if she'd been allowed to raise Ryan with Homelander..... Bye-bye, Kansas. Say what you want about making her a Nazi, but it wasn't forced in our faces. So, I see no problem with that, especially since the reason behind Stormfront's existence makes sense within the context of the lore.
@stevem2323
@stevem2323 3 жыл бұрын
@@truecaliber1995 It's typical SJW brainwashing and in your face idiotic pampering.
@koolwalla
@koolwalla 3 жыл бұрын
Drinker: "I'm going to avoid spoilers" Also Drinker: "Storm Front is the first super jerk and also a Nazi and also hooks up with Homelander""
@laurie1183
@laurie1183 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh it's hard to discuss season 2 without bringing up the 'muh evil nazis' crap since most of the season focuses on it.
@spinb
@spinb 3 жыл бұрын
It's okay; the show is predictable garbage, anyway.
@diamongameri5004
@diamongameri5004 3 жыл бұрын
@@spinb if the boys is that for you.. I strongly advise you to resign from watching movies and series in total.
@jonathanbaker4361
@jonathanbaker4361 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he he kind of shit all over that one, didn't he? But hey, he DID warn there WOULD be spoilers
@shihoblade
@shihoblade 3 жыл бұрын
The "Not Nazis" sure do get butthurt when people dig on Nazis LoL. I liked how Stormfront put it, something like "they loved WHAT I was saying, they just dont like the word Nazi".
@RottenFilmProduction
@RottenFilmProduction Жыл бұрын
Hope we see Drinkers opinion on season 3. After season 1 things started to appeared to be far more poorly written than season 1. Season 3 seems to be similar to season 2 in its approach towards storytelling and adapting from the comics. The more I read the comics, the more I think why the hell would you opt for anything other than the original source material. I have a strong feeling that Mr Hurr Hurr Weed Lmao has far more of an influence since season 2, hence the decline in quality across the board. At times season 3 feels like it’s written by a child, or more likely purely for Seth’s cameo, which does depict him correctly as a disgusting wanker.
@hez859
@hez859 Жыл бұрын
Season 3 was sick. They made you like SB only to show more of him and then change your perspective on his team and the Noir twist was way better than "im a cannibal to make homelander look crazier than he is" the comic books are pretty garbage a part from the first few issues. Think the show is a vast improvement
@dylanwright625
@dylanwright625 Жыл бұрын
@@hez859 if you liked SB at any point that's pretty sad. It upped the ante on political leaning and got annoying at points with it, if A-Train ran through racist dude scene 2 I'd been clapping, but gotta extent that woke. Way, way too often it was fuck Trump supporters which is like.. okay, didn't we get enough of that for 4yrs? Be more creative and get away from heavy handedness on politics. But then again anyone who calls a comic/ book trash compared to the show/ movie is clearly not good at judging. MM was my favorite character and this did his character dirty.. shit has slowly become THE MESSAGE rather than good writing/ story telling. Sucks, i wanted more of the same at minimum but shit been a decline after season 1
@yung_wise5861
@yung_wise5861 Жыл бұрын
@@hez859 the twist wasn’t the Noir is darker cause he eats babies. The twist was that Noir was a clone and that Noir is the one who actually made the footage. Meaning Homelander goes off the deep end, not because of himself, he gets framed. If you took the baby eating as the twist then you weren’t paying attention.
@alexkamrow7901
@alexkamrow7901 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think you got the "girls get it done". I saw it as mocking marvel's version and pointing out how ridiculous it was
@jenniek8391
@jenniek8391 2 ай бұрын
Let's be honest. CD doesn't get much...
@1knowitall
@1knowitall 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Reddit thinks Stormfront is a real person.
@neilwilson5785
@neilwilson5785 3 жыл бұрын
Left Reddit hopes so as a boogeywoman, Right-reddit as a sexy heroine.
@williampoole1742
@williampoole1742 3 жыл бұрын
@Robot Rock Aka how I know this show died. It's been taken over, just like every other show.
@Fridaey13txhOktober
@Fridaey13txhOktober 3 жыл бұрын
He used a Nintendo glow when hacking the 2016 elections. -D
@torchlight1785
@torchlight1785 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the people trying to compare her to ordinary people who they call "nazi's." It's annoying because they call anyone who disagrees with their view a Nazi.
@sergeantmajor_gross
@sergeantmajor_gross 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically the actress is jewish
@parabpbpbp
@parabpbpbp 3 жыл бұрын
that sick burn on the partially shaved head on women, so true.
@robinledesma2683
@robinledesma2683 3 жыл бұрын
@@rphilipsgeekery4589 also pink hair.
@squashua16
@squashua16 3 жыл бұрын
I think they did her hair like that so she looks very different for other roles and in public. being s nazi and all. People are mental and will carry her role with her person.
@armr6937
@armr6937 3 жыл бұрын
@Nick Smith I get what you mean, but making Portland's own hero a secret nazi has to count for something.
@dougshaffer5524
@dougshaffer5524 3 жыл бұрын
It's the modern mullet.
@BigStickyNugs
@BigStickyNugs 3 жыл бұрын
it because she's a nazi. She has to show at least a bit of partially shaved hair. Not me, Nazi rules.
@vincentphilippart4669
@vincentphilippart4669 Жыл бұрын
Well, season 3 is now over, and was preachier than a very special episode of Glee. Time to take back that recommendation !
@wiyaa
@wiyaa 2 жыл бұрын
Well after watching season 3 halfway now, safe to say the boys is still an amazing series. Might be my favorite season so far
@user-gm4kv2my4u
@user-gm4kv2my4u 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly? I disagree. The show is coasting on the performances of its cast . The writing itself? Pretty mediocre.
@imanoldurango8213
@imanoldurango8213 Жыл бұрын
@@user-gm4kv2my4u episode 6 was epic. Idc what you say. It’s an amazing show and the only superhero show still running actually worth anyones time
@XanVicious
@XanVicious Жыл бұрын
@@imanoldurango8213 it’s so good I watched it twice all the way through in a week, I couldn’t get enough lol.
@snuffcarl
@snuffcarl Жыл бұрын
Best season so far indeed. Love the character arcs. Acting is super high level. Lots of moments they pull off that are super difficult.
@user-gm4kv2my4u
@user-gm4kv2my4u Жыл бұрын
@@imanoldurango8213 I'll give you that episode 6 was easily the highlight of the season. But only running supe show worth watching? We'll see once S2 of Invincible comes out.
@sinang9013
@sinang9013 3 жыл бұрын
This season suffers from the same problem many TV Shows do. They have about 3 hours of story but they stretch it out into 10 hours.
@nathanluz1218
@nathanluz1218 3 жыл бұрын
yep. that's exactly precisely right. this is why I don't watch shows at all. it's just ridiculous. They adapt things and are so creative in first season. 3 episodes in season 1 feels like 10 already and they keep on delivering same pace till the bitter end. 4 episodes onto season 2 and I'm thinking why the hell am I still watching it. They do the same thing with Ray Donovan. 1 and 2 are awesome. Than they just keep stretching it and stretching it. Nobody ever dies. Same characters being squeezed like that's just gonna work and automatically make a good story.
@odinsplaygrounds
@odinsplaygrounds 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I don't usually watch TV shows. It's all padded out. That's exactly what happened here, so much needless "drama" just to drag out the playtime, between real plot elements. Not watching season 3, have lost all interest in the show after this season.
@elliotw.888
@elliotw.888 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathanluz1218 that might be true for shows with hour long episodes, but the ones with episodes that are 20 minutes are usually a lot more fast paced with a tighter narrative. see bojack horseman
@frankvandermerwe1487
@frankvandermerwe1487 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, you should stop watching it Then
@maiden5427
@maiden5427 3 жыл бұрын
Or the season 2 syndrome
@xanth0sSkaios
@xanth0sSkaios 3 жыл бұрын
FFS, her name was literally "Storm Front." It couldn't have been more obvious.
@FrogEnjoyer17
@FrogEnjoyer17 3 жыл бұрын
In hindsight it should have been kinda obvious...
@qty1315
@qty1315 3 жыл бұрын
The Boys was never very subtle. Still, I kinda thought they wouldn't do the Nazi thing, because like, Nazis are kind of stale at this point. What can you do with Nazis that hasn't been done at this point?
@SotNist
@SotNist 3 жыл бұрын
It made me like her more. Message failed.
@Bigtimegamer-dl3dx
@Bigtimegamer-dl3dx 3 жыл бұрын
@National Socialism is the answer are you actually making an arguement for nazis?
@deankruse2891
@deankruse2891 3 жыл бұрын
No one ever gets sick of seeing nazis get blown up. Plus it was a jab at "alpha male" Incel online culture.
@himayamata
@himayamata 10 ай бұрын
I just noticed The Drinker did not make a review about Season 3. Looks like The Boys did lose its way.
@kamilsroka4363
@kamilsroka4363 Жыл бұрын
Thing that anoyed me the most about this season was that most of the conficts were resolved with blackmails, which didn't make any sense
@Maxpower4908
@Maxpower4908 3 жыл бұрын
It took me several episodes to realize Antony Starr was the actor who played the lead in Banshee. He embodies Homelander so well that I didn’t recognize him. Great actor.
@paulianhodgson
@paulianhodgson 3 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@YourCRTube
@YourCRTube 3 жыл бұрын
Damn
@adriangore850
@adriangore850 3 жыл бұрын
I loved Banshee and I didn't even recognize him. F me, I'm getting old. Thanks for looking out yo!
@Gavinmartinlee
@Gavinmartinlee 3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching banshee and thinking he’d make a good wolverine but I prefer the boys to marvel and dc
@hachemdjeffal6545
@hachemdjeffal6545 3 жыл бұрын
Shit i thought i saw him somewhere. The new hair changed his face. Ps: he is probably sad he can't fuck two girls per episode like he did in banshee. Lol
@rullangaar
@rullangaar 3 жыл бұрын
The original comics creator Garth Ennis is not listed as a producer for season 2. Now it’s all Hollywood types. Hence more wokeness and less character depth. It can only go downhill from here.
@Max_Ohm
@Max_Ohm 3 жыл бұрын
I am not liking how the story is straying from the original.
@davethepieman12
@davethepieman12 3 жыл бұрын
That's a shame. If it's anything like GoT it will go downhill very quickly once the creator has jumped ship.
@themaddane1550
@themaddane1550 3 жыл бұрын
Sad
@rullangaar
@rullangaar 3 жыл бұрын
@@davethepieman12 That’s a great point. Makes me wonder if there was a falling out between the original creator and Seth Rogen et al just like there was between Dumb and Dumber and GRR Martin?
@Njnetsfan15
@Njnetsfan15 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Garth Ennis had hardly anything to do with the depth of the characters. The original comic is so far from the television show, that I don't really feel like any of the interesting character stuff had anything to do with him. The comic characters are generally not very deep, and the show has done a much better job of making them interesting. The comic focused on just killing a whole bunch of stand ins for real comic groups, and even the 7 were hardly touched. It makes me feel like you haven't looked into the comic series at all if you think Garth fuckin Ennis was the reason the first season was so good.
@ismeltitdeltit9354
@ismeltitdeltit9354 Жыл бұрын
Came here to make a judgement call on whether to give season 3 a go. After reading many comments, I was thinking about sticking it on but then I read a comment that Seth Rogan was involved in this, I think I'll give it a miss.
@hendrikkiefer3325
@hendrikkiefer3325 Жыл бұрын
Give it a go, Seth Rogan is actually only involved in one 13 minute long episode, which also isn't relevant to the plot of the show since it's an animated episode. Season 3 still is very good, especially compared to all the other woke stuff around.
@g.k.9686
@g.k.9686 Жыл бұрын
Give it a go for real its really good and way better than season two
@MurderMostFowl
@MurderMostFowl Жыл бұрын
After watching season three and going back and re-watching seasons one and two things they all seem to fit together pretty well. Yes there are times where I feel like there’s some plot weakness but being able to see it as the middle part between season one and three now in retrospect I like it a lot more.
@fawful7457
@fawful7457 Жыл бұрын
Season 3 may have been Woke, but it was in my eyes the good kind of Woke to me.
@zackeryhardy9504
@zackeryhardy9504 Жыл бұрын
@@fawful7457 Well I mean I don't think people have a massive issue with politics. I think people have an issue with bad story telling where "the message" is given higher priority than the writing. This show has good writing and therefore the politics don't ruin the show because some of these things make sense in the moment. I mean it makes a point to have their characters beat up stormfront because they all have a problem with her while mocking bad writing in the superhero movies we are used to seeing.
@fawful7457
@fawful7457 Жыл бұрын
@@zackeryhardy9504 True. Plus I don't mind that Season 3 was more overt in making fun of conservatives since again The Boys season 3 does call out the establishment where it pretends to care about marginalized people but it's just some DEI stunt to make a quick buck.
@zackeryhardy9504
@zackeryhardy9504 Жыл бұрын
@@fawful7457 You got to make fun of all sides because they all have problems. I don't mind it when its well done.
@disappointmentyes6387
@disappointmentyes6387 Жыл бұрын
​@@zackeryhardy9504 The thing is that they don't really make fun of both sides. They exclusively make fun of the right
@FalconPaladin
@FalconPaladin 3 жыл бұрын
A-Train still has his heart problems, they're definitely not gone.
@himayamata
@himayamata 3 жыл бұрын
Plus... does he have a brother? Where is he?
@wesdog784
@wesdog784 3 жыл бұрын
Does he? I thought he told Starlight he was better when she told him he couldn't be running around town with his heart problems.
@FalconPaladin
@FalconPaladin 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesdog784 Why would he tell her he's sick?
@SpeedOfThought1111
@SpeedOfThought1111 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the cult leader guy was able to fix him somehow but they deleted that scene or something..
@frankjohnson761
@frankjohnson761 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpeedOfThought1111 Or it never existed.
@emaentico
@emaentico 3 жыл бұрын
Uh.. you can make Homelander do anything with blackmail. Blackmail is the deus ex machina in both seasons.
@chuckhoyle1211
@chuckhoyle1211 3 жыл бұрын
They should all fear the day when Homelander becomes immune to blackmail because he, simply, does not care any more. Then he would be free to express all his sociopathic urges and become the dictator of somewhere. Really, the only thing holding him back is a misguided sense of trying to keep up appearances to maintain his lavish lifestyle. If he ever figures out that he can become Kim Jong Un, what is to stop him? maybe a nuke?
@fran3ro
@fran3ro 3 жыл бұрын
@@chuckhoyle1211 Maybe the translucent treatment?
@visorseen8954
@visorseen8954 3 жыл бұрын
You have to be careful with making a villain all powerful because your write yourself into a corner like this. Although I like overpowered villains if I'm feeling the villain is more compelling.
@deadlyslayer271
@deadlyslayer271 3 жыл бұрын
@@fran3ro the only reason that worked on translucent was his vulnerability to electricity, it would take some other deus ex makina to work, I'm not sure exactly what it would end up being though.
@mackinnon182
@mackinnon182 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda felt that way too. More blackmail in the boys than an IR gang bang
@StatusQuonald
@StatusQuonald 2 жыл бұрын
Also an honorable mention to the actress that plays Becca. Her emotion and despair was portrayed so heartwrenchingly good, mad probz.
@Pedro-ss2qr
@Pedro-ss2qr Жыл бұрын
Yeah she's underrated, honestly I thought the Becca/butcher storyline would get more hype than it did. For me, it was one of the best parts of S2.
@kendiamond7852
@kendiamond7852 Жыл бұрын
Well if he was on the line with S2, The Drinker likely will retract the recommendation with S3. Not that it was terrible but it still suffers from the same ailments increasingly becoming an issue. And it has set up S4 for ruination
@Lynchy626
@Lynchy626 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree about Hughie. He definitely wasn’t as critical as last time, but he is responsible for a good deal of the Boys’ success this season. His decision to save A-Train results in their ultimate victory, his plotting with Starlight causes Vought to go into damage control, he was the reason Annie escaped and so on.
@catutzu9068
@catutzu9068 3 жыл бұрын
and not only that. the thing with girls get it done was clearly a parody of the avengers scene when it was truly forced. I think you if you go too political, you tend to make it all about politics
@Lynchy626
@Lynchy626 3 жыл бұрын
@mrs0019 That’s the point really. He’s taking initiative and sometimes it works but since he’s a novice he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and it shows. It’s why his final decision makes so much sense for his character
@willier47
@willier47 3 жыл бұрын
Hughie Was the MVP for me.
@kboid5919
@kboid5919 3 жыл бұрын
I think there are two major problems with him. First, you cannot absolutly relate to him. Normaly when you have week protagonist he/she is at least brave, Hughie acts like his only motivation is that he wants to have sex with Starlight. There is nothing else in him anymore. The scene when I think most of us lost respect towards him was him inside that fish. He was such a drama queen there. It makes no sens. It showed that he is too weak to acomplish things that he is accomplish therefor it is hard to believe he is a real person and that is my second problem with him. His actions are not the actions of someone like him. Sorry for bad english.
@Doctor_Straing_Strange
@Doctor_Straing_Strange 3 жыл бұрын
and he never, even in the first season, struck me as ”cowardly”
@skbproject5589
@skbproject5589 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing homelander is the strongest man on the planet; because he's holding up the series by himself.
@SpeedOfThought1111
@SpeedOfThought1111 3 жыл бұрын
he also holds up the Banshee series quite well if anyone hasn't seen it yet
@notacompleteidiot...1285
@notacompleteidiot...1285 3 жыл бұрын
They should've called him "Atlas".
@frankhank3301
@frankhank3301 3 жыл бұрын
That actor was the only one who wasn't cringe on the after show interviews.
@silverblade357
@silverblade357 3 жыл бұрын
@Cure4Living Seriously, he ruthlessly murdered his handler and spared Butcher just to show him the horrible truth. You'd think his "family" would be his main focus, but he focuses more on restoring the status quo despite season one. He needed Stormfront to manipulate him into making moves.
@ComradeOgilvy1984
@ComradeOgilvy1984 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverblade357 Family is his new focus. The problem is he is so very bad at it. HL tried to build a relationship with his son and screwed that up. Then Stormfront prods him to try again, and Stormfront helps him totally screw up whatever chance he once had with his son. HL falls back on obsessing on his public life because that is the only kind of success he knows. HL is left with status quo because he is a complete failure this season. It is not exactly neat and tidy, but HL's arc is half the season IMO.
@bhpictures
@bhpictures Жыл бұрын
Oh man! The "message" is even louder in the third season. I have a feeling the "recommends" retraction is coming real soon.
@detectivejimmymcnulty1676
@detectivejimmymcnulty1676 2 жыл бұрын
The short answer to your question is FUCK NO!
@hayleywindus8471
@hayleywindus8471 3 жыл бұрын
Yah know what I enjoy most about The Boys? It doesn't drag its feet. It doesn't take an entire season to reveal Compound V, 2 episodes & bam, done, the World knows & voilá the World doesn't care.
@austincarlson9270
@austincarlson9270 Жыл бұрын
Never know what each episode brings
@CBass-nk4eu
@CBass-nk4eu 3 жыл бұрын
I think having Homelander act almost human towards his son gave some levity to what was a so-so story overall. It was sad to see him almost find his humanity only to lose it irrevocably
@AlphaMike-vh3wx
@AlphaMike-vh3wx Жыл бұрын
Every time he makes some progress something happens that makes him even worse
@razmspiele25
@razmspiele25 Жыл бұрын
Just finished season 2 and you hit the nail on the head. Definitely had "The Message" scattered about way too often. Couldn't help but cringe when the guy shot the convenient store guy cause he watched too much cable "news" and thought he was a sup-terrorist.
@thomasdavis5470
@thomasdavis5470 2 жыл бұрын
I liked both seasons and am waiting to see what happens for season 3.
@LOKITYZ
@LOKITYZ 3 жыл бұрын
There were so many conveniences in this season as well. They would often present obstacles to heighten the stakes, only to have it solved rather easily by something convenient or blackmail. And I believe blackmail was so overly used this season. The cycle of "obstacle solved by blackmail" even got predictable and boring. Would have preferred to have the issues resolved on the first try instead of adding an artificial obstacle that would be resolved easily. Felt like time wasted... Apparently, Maeve can teleport too. The whole Church of Collective storyline felt like a waste of time too, although the themes it was trying to explore were appropriate for the overall world-building of the show. Unfortunately, it simply served as a tool for comedy, to make fun of The Deep's dumbass character. It was still a really enjoyable show, though. Had some strong character moments and interesting twists. They still managed to grab my attention and have me excited for the next season.
@cardmaster8772
@cardmaster8772 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The first season felt so grounded and real, we even got a whole episode where they were figuring out how to kill a supe (Translucent in that regard) without Homelander knowing. The characters made logical choices that fit their mindset and they didnt throw themselves into too risky situations. In season 2, there are too many moments where the boys are about to die and are saved by a video blackmail. If you re going to put your characters into a live or die situation, with a lot of stakes, you need to have a smart way for them to beat those odds. Season 1 did this stuff way better, in season 2 it was often too convenient, especialy when you consider the fact that the boys are fugitives.
@HilleCine
@HilleCine 3 жыл бұрын
I like your summary
@LOKITYZ
@LOKITYZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@cardmaster8772 Yep. In the first season you genuinely felt worried for these guys and the tasks they needed to do seemed like real challenges. The fact that the season ended with them being fugitives made it seem like shit was gonna get even more intense in the second season. But no, they actually looked like they had an easier time in Season 2. A lot of the issues just happened to have simple and overly convenient solutions to them... I can brush aside a few conveniences here and there; I get that you're trying to move the story forward. But having too much of them makes it seem lazy and kills any tension....
@LOKITYZ
@LOKITYZ 3 жыл бұрын
@TheCoffeeNut711 Yeah, hope they do better for season 3. I heard they're gonna explore the "Herogasm" arc from the comics. That would be a tricky one to do in a more subtle way. In the comics it's so over the top. Hope they handle it well.
@zolniu
@zolniu 3 жыл бұрын
What about Deus Ex Maeve in this season (and last episode in particluar)? She just appears where she needs to be in the exact moment to save the day. During the fight with Noir it was not as bad because they were in the Tower, but how did she end up in the forest with Homelander and Butcher? She can't fly like Homelander so did she rent a car? Or a jet? And she does that 2 times in the row in the same episode.
@Pottan23
@Pottan23 3 жыл бұрын
I had a good laugh at teleporting Queen Maeve in the final episode of season 2 lmao
@ernestogerena7419
@ernestogerena7419 3 жыл бұрын
Woman power. Now with teleportation.
@lickitysplit9019
@lickitysplit9019 3 жыл бұрын
Considering she has super strength her legs would be pretty strong, so she most likely jumped there
@N0rt3x
@N0rt3x 3 жыл бұрын
@@lickitysplit9019 and how did her legs know where to find Homelander and the rest of them? Why save Butcher? This whole season's plot is thin
@lickitysplit9019
@lickitysplit9019 3 жыл бұрын
@@N0rt3x Well we can only theorize as the show hasn't explained it (mainly because it doesn't matter and is not important) but she most likely followed stormfront (we saw she was pissed at her when she saw her in the tower) there and found butcher by asking everyone that was left behind.
@Willow-ej7sc
@Willow-ej7sc 3 жыл бұрын
@@N0rt3x maybe read the comics the book is based off of and learn that queen Maeve has heavy attachment to “the legend” ... who knows about all the supes weakness and locations 24/7
@mjg407
@mjg407 Жыл бұрын
You are going to have to retract your drinker recommends after season 3.
@Yourghostuncle
@Yourghostuncle 2 жыл бұрын
I had hoped that this review was unnecessarily cynical and some of these things were coincidental and self-referencial, but after seeing the first few episodes of season 3 I think, this was a lot more accurate than I had hoped it would be.
@creationfied
@creationfied Жыл бұрын
shouldve watched the show first, watching a non spoiler review might have primed thoughts in you
@Yourghostuncle
@Yourghostuncle Жыл бұрын
@@creationfied Oh I did watch the show first
@Jakeneil
@Jakeneil Жыл бұрын
@@creationfied I was primed to enjoy the first season by C Drinker and then watched the show turn into the exact world view of CNN
@akshatgupta4817
@akshatgupta4817 Жыл бұрын
​@@Jakeneil lmao the show is good until it exposes ur dumb worldview isn't it.
@hereontatooine4623
@hereontatooine4623 3 жыл бұрын
I like how they showed you don't become a Nazi after one Alex Jones broadcast. It takes SEVERAL broadcasts, over a week or more.
@defeqel6537
@defeqel6537 3 жыл бұрын
lol, indeed. And you need to basically be a soy boy to become one..
@ultimateme3049
@ultimateme3049 3 жыл бұрын
@Erratum and that's your take from a literal Nazi character?
@sheadoherty7434
@sheadoherty7434 3 жыл бұрын
@Erratum yes, because the show criticised economic and small government policies relating to right wing parties...wait no it didn't
@sheadoherty7434
@sheadoherty7434 3 жыл бұрын
@Wignat Fedposter funny, you said this is to an non-american on a channel run by a Scot, both of which have universal healthcare.
@sheadoherty7434
@sheadoherty7434 3 жыл бұрын
@Wignat Fedposter wow, an unironic user of the term NPC. I'm sure you're really smart.
@ChrisBryer
@ChrisBryer 3 жыл бұрын
"Hughie didn't evolve at all." Stands up to Butchers bullshit. (im talking about him punching him back by the way if anyone was confused, which is something he would have never done in the first season.) Goes to save Starlight. Legit realizes hes a clingy weirdo and leaves the group cus of it. Ya, he didn't change at all...
@Sorel2020
@Sorel2020 3 жыл бұрын
I mean the character realizing he hasn't changed just makes the character meta, not good. He also stood up to Butcher at the towards of season one.
@destyrian
@destyrian 3 жыл бұрын
He's always stood up to Butcher's bullshit, that's why Butcher subconsciously keeps him around. The saving Starlight thing is fucking retarded and only worked because of conveniences. Hughie has always done things when pushed, it's nothing new (see Translucent) Realises he's clingy etc... yeah, realising it doesn't mean he has developed in any way and it seems it was just shoehorned in there to explain why he was involved with the boys when he clearly doesn't fit. I see your points but honestly, most of their attempts at giving him an arch are little more than half assed platitudes.
@MS-wd3ls
@MS-wd3ls 3 жыл бұрын
@@destyrian What would be adequate development for him, in your opinion?
@ChrisBryer
@ChrisBryer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sorel2020 Probably should have said "Punched Butcher in the face instead of taking his shit" instead. Sorry that i was not clear.
@ChrisBryer
@ChrisBryer 3 жыл бұрын
@Tracchofyre Ya, i think some people expect radical change and not all, if not most characters should do that. Was nice to see Butch know hes a fucking bully and not want to be like his dad.
@osmanyousif7849
@osmanyousif7849 2 жыл бұрын
8:07 Actually, when you think about it, Homelander is Titan in Megamind. Both receiving superpowers due to a scientific chemical, feeling a big sense of entitlement for love and attention they believe they deserve, just because they're powerful enough to get away with anything they want. If fact, both are best described with this quote: "All your gifts, all your powers, and you squander them for your own personal gain?"
@observationduty
@observationduty 10 ай бұрын
The show really went downhill imo. Unimportant characters are disposed of in a matter of milliseconds for gory bullshit , while characters that the writers decided are important are kept in , while they should've faced the same faith. It makes my blood boil how characters like A-train and Lamplighter are not killed on the spot by the people who hate their guts.. You mean to tell me that Starlight (a sweet girl that wants to save people) kills a normal guy , who thought was just being scammed makes sense ,while M.M. And Frenchie (two homicidal professionals, who hate this guy) let Lamplighter live long enough to redeem himself.. Same with Hughie , in s1 he kills Translucent and even tells M.M. it felt good , later on he spares A-train TWICE ,before he is even redeemed at all. How does that make any sense at all?
@zoradios4505
@zoradios4505 3 жыл бұрын
Homelander and bonding with his son, as well as the problems between them like Homelander coming to realize that his son isn’t him and his son warming up to him some were the highlight of the season in my opinion. I wish it was more of the focus this season, since Anthony played an amazing role as a narcissistic father somewhat realizing that his son shouldn’t have to have a traumatic past like him. I feel like every other character this season was just... meh. Not terrible, but just average. To me, the Boys characters in general felt off, like they weren’t the same people from season 1.
@zackharris8373
@zackharris8373 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta look at it from the mindset that charecters develop, new season, new set of issues, nobody stays the same.
@Malkovith2
@Malkovith2 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but the characters didn't develop at all during season 2
@dimitris_papoulakosonig390
@dimitris_papoulakosonig390 3 жыл бұрын
the huey of the first season would never take a emotional unstable guy and go head on in vought to save someone.maybe he didn't evolve that much as a character but he has changed for sure . Also i would get the ''cringy'' scene where all girls are hitting stormfront any day compered to scenes like female group shot in avengers endgame.
@InRiceITrust142
@InRiceITrust142 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and I like the humor and gruesome scenes they added into it... way better done than marvel did it.
@thetankhunter100
@thetankhunter100 3 жыл бұрын
It was sorta a rederence to the comics where they kill sturmfront that way.
@kboid5919
@kboid5919 3 жыл бұрын
eh, that was the worse scene in the history of the cinematography. It totally destroyed Marvel movies for me. It was so fake. And Gwineth Patrow suddenly is an Ironman, because I guess anyone can be Ironman. I hope one day they will teach people about how stupid people become in 21c.
@leonardocavalheiro9881
@leonardocavalheiro9881 3 жыл бұрын
When i watched that episode i immediately remembered the ''girl power'' scene from endgame. For me, it wasn't as cringy as the endgame scene, but still was. So i hope that doesn't happen again next season.
@jakubrejak1114
@jakubrejak1114 3 жыл бұрын
@@kboid5919 We have always been stupid, it just became more apparent nowadays. Besides, criticizing Marvel movies isn't the best way to show the degradation of humanity. They're harmless pieces of art, nothing more.
@canemcave
@canemcave 8 ай бұрын
definitely from season 2 you start getting shitty vibes with feminism, and identity politics creeping in, in season 3 they are common, and I guess in season four they will be the main narrative.. Typical when something is good, and successful, the leaches must come in to spoil the goods for a share of the pie
@Kyle-sr6jm
@Kyle-sr6jm 2 жыл бұрын
The Boys season 2 could have been an amazing second season, with about 2-3 episodes of material cut, and everything tightened up. The major plot lines (Stormfront, creepy religion, Homelander parenting, Starlight infiltration, Headpopper) were strong and engaging. There were some absolutely brilliant scenes, bookended by content you could have made a sandwich during, and never noticed you missed the plot point, because it had plot, but no point.
@TechnoMinarchistBall
@TechnoMinarchistBall 3 жыл бұрын
1st half of the season was okay but nothing like season 1. Even the pilot of season 1 was better than all of season 2. 2nd half of season 2 looks like it was written by someone who has TDS.
@davidvillamonte2007
@davidvillamonte2007 3 жыл бұрын
Episode 6 of season 2 was the best, I'm just saying
@rationalityfirst
@rationalityfirst 3 жыл бұрын
@John Galt And Homelander's family issues. And those things made those episodes entertaining.
@andod007
@andod007 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, season 2 wasn't as good as season 1 and there are too many Trump=nazi references that not only does not make any sense but people watching it in 5+ years won't even understand.
@armr6937
@armr6937 3 жыл бұрын
@zztop3000 Showcasing body-dysmorphia. AKA fat shaming.
@SFTaYZa
@SFTaYZa 3 жыл бұрын
@@andod007 this insanity against the president will eventually be in history books.
@judyhopps9380
@judyhopps9380 3 жыл бұрын
it reminds me of deadwood, where they would add a character at the start of the season to kill them off, because they didn't want to harm the main roster. This time we had scientology, and a nazi too scared to say the N word (something the comic did not). Compared to Season 1, this went nowhere, and was very tame.
@NoOne-uh9vu
@NoOne-uh9vu 3 жыл бұрын
They had no problem with gratuitous white male bashing only eclipsed by their hate boner for fathers especially when white
@midwings00
@midwings00 3 жыл бұрын
@@NoOne-uh9vu race has got nothing to do iwth this
@ridalger16
@ridalger16 3 жыл бұрын
@@midwings00 Ahahaha
@NoOne-uh9vu
@NoOne-uh9vu 3 жыл бұрын
@@midwings00 The show runner said and I quote "white people are the most dangerous". So it does have nothing to do with race huh?
@NoOne-uh9vu
@NoOne-uh9vu 3 жыл бұрын
@@midwings00 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eb-BiLiCtcnLh6c.html
@testpattern23
@testpattern23 3 жыл бұрын
I actually liked S2 better than the first....it's a brilliant show
@lucas11001
@lucas11001 2 жыл бұрын
11:38 nah that shit was kinda awesome and way better than the all female fight scene in Endgame
@JcXi94
@JcXi94 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't feel like this season was a wrong turn at all imo. The heavy-handedness of the political/LGBT stuff was all still satirical and it was used to show the irony of how forced representation creates tokenism and how feminism is treated in media. From what I understand the Stormfront scene was originally the boys doing the beat down but in a way it felt like a mockery of the scene from Endgame and in that context it just makes sense
@HeavyK78
@HeavyK78 3 жыл бұрын
The writers said that the beat down scene was a parody of the scene from endgame... apparently
@idiotengineer3925
@idiotengineer3925 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they were also mocking vought's motto for their female super heroes too
@cheez-itman2784
@cheez-itman2784 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeavyK78 I mean the original stormfront was stomped to death in the comics before endgame so idk
@ice-in.
@ice-in. 3 жыл бұрын
What about the intro of episode 7 where your man shoots the shop owner, that was so lame
@JcXi94
@JcXi94 3 жыл бұрын
@@ice-in. idk man I vibed with that, they're looking at obsessive culture and how someone forms a fake relationship with their idol (celebrity, religious figure) and does something for them. Was it the dude who tried to kill Reagan who thought he was going to impress Jodie Foster? This is real life stuff
@francogiobbimontesanti3826
@francogiobbimontesanti3826 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree, the boys went after both sides, they girls get done scene was a piss at marvel. and spoiler alert the AOC character turned out to be a villain.
@billbutton8468
@billbutton8468 3 жыл бұрын
(Its not at both sides. Its all a crticism from the left. Its garth ennis afterall)
@jandcstopmotion7774
@jandcstopmotion7774 3 жыл бұрын
The girls get it done scene was funny when they did it ironically. But then they just ended up doing it unironically which was pretty cringe
@vond5829
@vond5829 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno. There was no punch line indicating It was a joke. I guess we have to wait and see if in season 3 they dig further on this kind of thing. A joke should only be heard once less it lose its charm. If they repeat it then either they're getting out of thing to write or they do really want to play side
@jandcstopmotion7774
@jandcstopmotion7774 3 жыл бұрын
@@JetSetVideoFuture That would be better but I doubt it. The dude who makes the show is heavily left wing and kind of an idiot, subtlety is not really something the boys does.
@francogiobbimontesanti3826
@francogiobbimontesanti3826 3 жыл бұрын
JetSetVideoFuture Bro don’t you remember the Brave Meave adds. They were clearly making fun of corporation pandering to the left. The whole season they were making fun of leftists. But conservatives just nitpicked the parts that were making fun of them.
@JohnSmith-fe1oq
@JohnSmith-fe1oq Жыл бұрын
Is there going to be a video on season 3? Da message got real blunt in that one.
@shiori00
@shiori00 Жыл бұрын
@@Shadow-gm9ct yup
@shiori00
@shiori00 Жыл бұрын
@@Shadow-gm9ct "right bad left good" and pandering too.
@tonyvidrio2214
@tonyvidrio2214 Жыл бұрын
@@shiori00 wasn’t the democrat lady the bad guy?
@GigaChadh976
@GigaChadh976 Жыл бұрын
@@Shadow-gm9ct that’s what the show is. The writers have been clear about that
@jamesterry4770
@jamesterry4770 Жыл бұрын
Season 3 vid when? I love your input.
@mistmonster
@mistmonster 3 жыл бұрын
I like how they said "girls do get it done" however a young boy has to finish the job lol
@frankjohnson761
@frankjohnson761 3 жыл бұрын
But they still beat her and her running?
@Blizofoz45
@Blizofoz45 3 жыл бұрын
Right. It was the male gender character(lol at that phrasing) who actually defeated her.
@lordofthepizzapie9319
@lordofthepizzapie9319 3 жыл бұрын
​@@connorhutchinson9615 Why didn't she fry them all with her lightning power? There is nothing stopping her from just zapping all of them to death (especially since Starlight's too dumb to use her absorption powers against Stormfront) yet she just lets them beat the crap out of her. Kinda ruins the tension when characters are made stupid to force the story into a certain direction.
@djstrongarmgmail
@djstrongarmgmail 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 Because these sjw writers and producers don't REALLY care about women's rights the same way they don't REALLY care about racism...and are actually guilty of both. Pure hypocrisy.
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordofthepizzapie9319 She was using the powers but she was getting beat the fuck down at the end
@johnwalters7498
@johnwalters7498 3 жыл бұрын
Seth Rogen is involved, it’ll be unwatchable by season four. Mark my words.
@kudolemon9888
@kudolemon9888 3 жыл бұрын
marked
@kleindropper
@kleindropper 3 жыл бұрын
It was getting close this year; the ending redeemed it a bit but it was a whole season of meh.
@LGPanthers1
@LGPanthers1 3 жыл бұрын
It's already there
@trauko1388
@trauko1388 3 жыл бұрын
Hello incels!!! XD
@kudolemon9888
@kudolemon9888 3 жыл бұрын
@@trauko1388 hi dad
@youtubecensors5419
@youtubecensors5419 3 жыл бұрын
Their mistake was making Stormfront by far the most sympathetic character.
@thembelamawelela9821
@thembelamawelela9821 2 жыл бұрын
Not losing it's way so much as it was trying to flesh out all the characters while still trying to keep the same tone and energy as the first season. There were understandable fluctuations in quality through s2 but the series is still great, I'd just like to see more of the Seven since the whole plot is basically about superheroes and how they'd be in the flawed, prejudiced and morally grey world we actually live in.
@d0ubtingThom4s
@d0ubtingThom4s 3 жыл бұрын
You really didn't think Hughie didn't have character growth? His arc was realizing that he can't trust butcher, and needs to stand on his own. It terminates him taking initiative in a situation where he would have been paralyzed with fear and/or helpless last season. And finally at the end he decides he wants to move on from the Boys, because he's gained the confidence to get away from Butcher.
@1BBL5
@1BBL5 3 жыл бұрын
Oh please. His last decision was to go work for a baddie
@jakemorris4302
@jakemorris4302 3 жыл бұрын
@@1BBL5 Damn must've missed that scene where Hughie found out the senator was a bad guy, can you link it for me?
@TheSuperappelflap
@TheSuperappelflap 3 жыл бұрын
@Space Roamer thats because the whole character is useless. think about it. the whole plot could work the same without hughie around to talk to people and react to stuff happening. he's just a standin for the male viewer.
@erikpng
@erikpng 3 жыл бұрын
@@1BBL5 but he doesn't know that Neuman works for Vought.
@Allendude51
@Allendude51 3 жыл бұрын
@@1BBL5 Smooth brain take
@funnyavi
@funnyavi 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing I find interesting about this season that I don't think a lot of people bring up is that Stormfront is a hero from Portland and portrayed as as a feminist and anti-corporate, And the second villain of the show is a staunch liberal and is based off of a liberal woman in Congress now. They show almost sells the message that a lot of the people who claim to be part of certain movements are all just self-serving assholes. It's hidden underneath layers of "beat up Nazis" and "xenophobia bad" but I feel like there is almost something interesting that can be pulled from the final villain reveal.
@totalmetaljacket789
@totalmetaljacket789 3 жыл бұрын
@Wignat Fedposter He's only slightly exaggerating, statistically.
@MachineMan-mj4gj
@MachineMan-mj4gj 3 жыл бұрын
@@totalmetaljacket789 *Cough*FBI crime statistics*Cough*
@totalmetaljacket789
@totalmetaljacket789 3 жыл бұрын
@@MachineMan-mj4gj So you agree?
@MachineMan-mj4gj
@MachineMan-mj4gj 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nevets_2770 It's actually worse. Try 6/55.
@Philistine47
@Philistine47 3 жыл бұрын
@@totalmetaljacket789 The last estimate I saw from the Southern Poverty Law Center was that there were under 10k white supremacists in the US, including what's left of the KKK and all the neo-Nazi groups. And keep in mind the SPLC's whole business model is "America So Racist, Send Us Money," so they have little motive to UNDERstate the problem. Under 10k, out of a population of over 330 million people, isn't even one percent of one percent of Americans. And the idea that 1/3 of 1% of 1% of the population, most of whom live in poverty in the middle of nowhere, with no friends in media, culture, or politics, and with very limited ways to even talk to anyone besides each other, constitute "the biggest threat" to our society is laughable bordering on tragic.
@jeffreymaxwell5558
@jeffreymaxwell5558 Жыл бұрын
its a good show for the most part, but each season has gotten more hamfisted with "the message." the final scene in season 3 feels like a lame snl skit. the left is ripe with contradictions and hypocrisy and projection, but apparently no one has the balls to actually make fun of them, ever. its always just the right that gets trashed. still enjoy the show but every stupid trump reference just takes me right out of the show. everything else is hyperpoliticized, can just 1 show not be? and if it has to be, at least trash both sides. but cant possibly do that.
@disliked1390
@disliked1390 Жыл бұрын
It's the seth rogan show. The script is full of what he complains all day on twitter
@davidyounan5774
@davidyounan5774 Жыл бұрын
the boys is literally THE show to be hyperpoliticized its what makes the show interesting in the first place. the only people that have issues with the show nowadays are centrists or right wingers who are clearly being poked at
@jeffreymaxwell5558
@jeffreymaxwell5558 Жыл бұрын
@@davidyounan5774 the left gives children the same pills used to castrate child molesters. if the show was truly hyperpoliticized it would take aim at those types as well. ur comment basically says "anyone right of mao will be the only ones offended!" if its only targeting one side then its more propaganda than anything else.
@extraterrestrialhorse9722
@extraterrestrialhorse9722 Жыл бұрын
@@davidyounan5774 *American
@yung_wise5861
@yung_wise5861 Жыл бұрын
@@davidyounan5774 so you shouldn’t be offended when Homelander blows off a dudes head, who’s a “liberal/libtard” according to the show, and says the right wingers would cheer if a man was killed violently for no reason? No dip. I’d be upset too. You’re literally saying that conservatives want murder and fascism which is why the show is stupid. If you made a show about how the left is fascist it’d be just as stupid. What show even pokes at the left? The Boys didn’t. They just mocked the Pepsi ad and shit like that. They didn’t accuse the left of anything. They accuse the right of being terrible people throughout the entire 3rd season.
@dallasmoffis
@dallasmoffis 3 жыл бұрын
What about the AOC reference at the end? I think you got caught up with the on the nose stuff that you missed the more sinister subtle stuff
@bryceelischer819
@bryceelischer819 3 жыл бұрын
The most unbelievable part of season 2 for me was when starlight brought compound V to the mainstream press and they actually exposed the multi billion dollar corporation. That one really shattered my suspension of disbelief.
@Oakshield2
@Oakshield2 2 жыл бұрын
Completely
@Shadow25720
@Shadow25720 2 жыл бұрын
They get exposed and they get away with it completely and don't face any consequences. That's the most realistic thing ever..
@lonewolf9578
@lonewolf9578 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow25720 true
@dragonstormx
@dragonstormx 2 жыл бұрын
The most unbelievable part for me is that Stormfront using social media made the stigma for Homelander killing someone go away. Celebrities and politicians in real life have had their reputations permanently damaged by rumors. Unless he has an ally with mind control powers there is no way the damage he took would go away.
@bibaolaitan5189
@bibaolaitan5189 2 жыл бұрын
Me too .
@muadek
@muadek 3 жыл бұрын
Well, a somewhat redeeming factor that the Drinker missed is the fact that the "Alexandria Occasio-Cortez" character also turned out to be evil...ish.
@tygerstripes3752
@tygerstripes3752 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say the Drinker was trying to avoid spoilers and he did a pretty neat job of that.
@Ari33sa
@Ari33sa 3 жыл бұрын
i think that's something very much consistent in the show. Stormfront too in the beginning I think pandered more towards the left before her massie turn.
@jamesmccallum6770
@jamesmccallum6770 3 жыл бұрын
This is an important theme that ran the series, and I think Drinker missed it. It wasn't overly focused on ideolgy. Life ain't that black and white, and I think it did a good job of showing the complexity of people and their motivations.
@muadek
@muadek 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmccallum6770 True, but the "incel neckbeard" guy scene from the beginning of one of the episodes was as awful as it gets in terms of political propaganda. Totally unnecessary.
@ANobodyatall
@ANobodyatall 3 жыл бұрын
Took until five minutes from the final episode !
@alexgrenlie862
@alexgrenlie862 5 ай бұрын
The drinker does a good job of glazing over the fact that homelander rapped Billy butcher's wife and that's why he has a son. Also that The deep forced Starlight into a sex act via blackmail which is disgusting and reprehensible.
@robertonome2448
@robertonome2448 2 жыл бұрын
11:30 that scene was a literal parody of endgame's wahmen teamup tho (u can check interviews about it)
@bigbadbillyd8638
@bigbadbillyd8638 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of thought the "girls do get it done" scene was more of a joke about that super cringey girl power scene at the end of marvel's end war. Instead of this big flashy over the top scene ham fisted in for some diversity points, the boys just gives you 3 women literally kicking the shit out of another woman who, in this instance, was an actual nazi. With that thinking in mind I thought it was pretty funny. Everything else mentioned in the review I think was spot on. I wasn't really a fan of how they keep making the right wing generally look like a bunch of evangelical zealots who are easily manipulated by subtle nazi ideology. Especially in an age where it seems just about everyone is prone to being manipulated by the media regardless of where you stand politically.
@joeymobb8438
@joeymobb8438 3 жыл бұрын
What's really disappointing about that fight is in the comics Stormfront gets curb stomped by a French guy, an American an English man and a Russian. The allegory is wonderful. On the show its two white women and an Asian woman beating up another white woman, then a bad joke. And I truly do not understand the point of this change? I guess its because Stormfront never said she's a nazi? So the WW2 joke can't land properly?
@louislux
@louislux 3 жыл бұрын
The "girls get it done" is more of a reference to the earlier episodes where Stormfront and Starlight were doing the press tour with the slogan "girls get it done". They repurposed a cringey corporate slogan into girls beating each other up which is kind of funny. They referenced something so early in the season that it probably didn't land as well as it could have.
@bigbadbillyd8638
@bigbadbillyd8638 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeymobb8438 that would have been much better I think
@squirrelofdoom3830
@squirrelofdoom3830 3 жыл бұрын
The story lines kinda logically built up to the fight in The Boys, it wasn't the utter cringefest of the Girl Power scene in Endgame.
@joeymobb8438
@joeymobb8438 3 жыл бұрын
@@squirrelofdoom3830 I did appreciate how pathetic and dirty the fight was. No glamorous choreography, just three people donkey kicking the shit out of another person.
@mattyyoungcloudsart3008
@mattyyoungcloudsart3008 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who hates the half shaved head
@vicentserrano9268
@vicentserrano9268 3 жыл бұрын
You said it.
@jw9737
@jw9737 3 жыл бұрын
I hate hate HATE that hairstyle!
@mattyyoungcloudsart3008
@mattyyoungcloudsart3008 3 жыл бұрын
It's like, look at my nice long hair...and over here, it looks like my 4 year old niece experimented with a razor while I was sleeping...🙃
@stelonous
@stelonous 3 жыл бұрын
It's so dumb. Just like manbuns.
@DazraelArianos
@DazraelArianos 3 жыл бұрын
They do make a good "Do not associate with this person" sign though.
@RaptorJesus.
@RaptorJesus. 3 жыл бұрын
how did you not like the "girls get it done" scene? XD i thought it was hilarious as they're all kicking the s%%t out of stormfront and swearing XD
@akshatgupta4817
@akshatgupta4817 Жыл бұрын
How dare they kick a n azi how woke would that be..
@jeffreytackett3922
@jeffreytackett3922 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the only thing really "wrong" with the show, thus far, has been how many times they back themselves into an inescapable corner, only to use the "if you do x, I will release y to the public", to get out of it. At some point, these people would realize that they have the power and influence to come back from the damage of a PR foible.
@Shadow-gm9ct
@Shadow-gm9ct 9 ай бұрын
You predicted Season 3 haha
@eeg-rh7jv
@eeg-rh7jv 8 ай бұрын
The problem is the writers wants to put the characters in high stakes situations without bothering how they get out of it so we end up getting intense scenes where the ending is just "let us go or I release X to the public" This wouldn't be a bad plot device it it was used rarely and the boys had enough braincells to milk the blackmail for all its worth
@TheGrayAlien
@TheGrayAlien 3 жыл бұрын
Stormfront telling the crowd "Make America safe again" was the cringiest attempt at falsely relating the show to modern politics.
@och70
@och70 3 жыл бұрын
That almost made me quit on this series. Equal cringe level with Cisco Ramon's "They want to make America Nazi again..." line from one of the CW Network's superhero show crossover episodes.
@Yawbus1976
@Yawbus1976 3 жыл бұрын
I switched it off, there and then. Come on, we don't need this kind shit.
@matthewcb1970
@matthewcb1970 3 жыл бұрын
Agree, it was clumsy and shameless.
@therealmacgyver5470
@therealmacgyver5470 3 жыл бұрын
i get u bro but really bad was the "incel" who shot the storeclerk because he got radicalised XD gosh that was soooo dumb. sad to see the stormfront girl getting burned in the end :-( i hope she has some more deadpool abilities ^^
@ANobodyatall
@ANobodyatall 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Biden and chums seem to be that now ! But Amazon won't go there !
@internettraveler8666
@internettraveler8666 3 жыл бұрын
> says Maeve doesn’t get any character development > complains about the scene where Maeve finally stands up to homelander and vought > bruh
@bilalbhuttiali1411
@bilalbhuttiali1411 3 жыл бұрын
She's basically been 'standing up' to Homelander since she broke up with him. Taking her verbal attacks at him, ctiticizing his broken morality. Yeah its a step up with the blackmail but its being dragged out too long.
@jakemorris4302
@jakemorris4302 3 жыл бұрын
I used to like the guy but all he does in these videos is act as if he's red pilled and complain about something that hurts his ego
@ianthompson6467
@ianthompson6467 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This video is bullshit overall.
@LordBandit200
@LordBandit200 3 жыл бұрын
So stupid, I used to like this channel.🤣
@DTAmaine
@DTAmaine 3 жыл бұрын
@@LordBandit200 you are indeed a trash bandit.
@sportbrock403
@sportbrock403 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear a review from you about your thoughts on season 3 of the boys.
@leffty2gunnz
@leffty2gunnz Жыл бұрын
My guess is he doesn’t recommend it anymore, season 3 was bad
@jenniek8391
@jenniek8391 2 ай бұрын
Why? All he does is shove his opinion down your throat.
@killyourself8826
@killyourself8826 3 жыл бұрын
Karl Urban is a beast! Loved him in chronicles of riddick!
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