Going to hold off buying a second hand bike for another year once these nice internal routed, integrated cockpit bikes start showing up on ebay.

Integrated cockpit? No thanks!

“Is cycling industry in trouble…” 😂😂😂

The high end market has been pretty stable for quite a while, not big but stable, it’s the mid-low end market that have significant demand swings that get brands in trouble with inventory.

probably not, mostly because these small high end companies are pretty much made to order, and usually have slight waiting times, so bankruptcy probably won't happen cause they never actually have lots of bikes that no one wants. The reason why companies get into trouble is usually because they made a bunch of bikes that nobody wants

​@@JohnSmith-ck5qkBang on champ 👍👍👍

That was my thought as well. A set of road wheels and a set of dirt.

Check out Lauf Seigla Rigid instead. 57mm tire clearance, threaded BB, no integrated BS, performance fit (but not extreme), very good money for value on the build specs offered... Being able to put everything from a typical 32mil road slick to a 57mm fast-rolling xc mtb tire is absolutely gold. 40mm is great for champagne gravel, but is woefully insufficient to run low enough pressures to enjoy let alone endure actual rough roads.

I’m in the same boat. I love the idea of a quick handling bike that can be taken on light gravel and dirt roads. But that stack height is too low for my achy back.

Agree - I have tried some of the slacker bikes and they are so much better off road, descending etc. Awesome brand - but I bet gen 2 will be a bit slacker

Quick handling on the road can be a handful on dirt and gravel. Tires play a massive roll too. Unless you’re swapping out rubber for those trail forays, riders will be hobbled pretty much independent of geometry. I notice a massive difference between a city tire (all weather, reasonable rolling resistance, and good puncture protection) and a light gravel tire (wider, softer sidewalls, different tread pattern). And that’s on the same bike and rim. The differences are in cornering and holding power. Both are slower when operated outside their design parameters. The city tire gets way hairier on loose corners though, whereas a gravel tire retains its composure on city roads.

Most amateur riders don't need this type of geometry.......I don't get the problem people have with Endurance bikes........

Agreed. It’s road geometry with clearance for 40mm tyres. Not even Endurance road, let alone all-road geo. The stack is far too low for majority of cyclists.

Similar levels of comfort but the Bridge is racier with the lower stack which you really notice (positively for me) but I do like the fender mounts and down tube storage on the Fray

yes it does and nothing so far to suggest they are an issue - but time will tell

The climb is Perfumo Canyon and then descending See Canyon out of San Luis Obispo, California

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Crux was the first thing that sprung to mind for me when he read the specs. Also 3T extrema and ridley kanzo adventure.

@@dasdWARf Three really nice options

Yup, agree 👍

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Same. And with the discounts Specialized/ bike shops are offering on all Crux models, it makes it had to choose anything else if you're in the market for an endurance/ gravel bike. I personally just got the Crux Expert at my LBS for for $4100. That's a lightweight frame with the type of geo I'm looking for, electronic shifting and Roval carbon wheels. No UDH though and a couple mounts for top tube storage would have been somewhat nice.

Exactly!! Somebody who gets it........race bikes are wasted on normal riders.

Well it's not a pure gravel bike as I said but for many people I know that will be enough, but yes for me a gravel bike wants 45mm tyre clearance - this is an all-road bike remember

@@davidarthur hmm looks like I jumped on too quickly, your title does say clearly "all-road".... you didn't just update that from "do everything" did you 😉

It's fairly normal to change titles and thumbnails on KZfaq to ensure the best response. And some people take some words too literally don't they ;)

@@davidarthurso we're both guilty hahaha

it's a more niche or bespoke bike company, housed in a major North American city. They're not marketing to budget cyclists.

For a road bike it is, most endurance bikes are now at 40mm which is the category this bike broadly falls within

$4000 actually, if you watched the whole video ;) and one that's made in Toronto too

@@davidarthur US maybe. Listed at 5,499.99 can

@@KevinMatassa yes, I was using US prices for comparisons, so $4k for the Bridge versus $5.5k for the Fray

I've got some they've been good to me

yes, they do. Lets the bike down.

why?