" I think its a ZF box" hilarious never change Tony

That the 992.2 is a hybrid is no negative for me. The negative is the disappearance of the analog rev counter and that there is no longer an ignition on the driver’s side, it now is a starter button (the horror). Those typical 911 details are gradually fading out.

Can confirm I have been watching since roughly when Sam crashed the 4C into the van.

Great video again from Tony's Car Sales Dealership & enjoy your trip Sam & all goes well for your Ferrari too.

New 992.2 lovely. I keep playing around on the configurator with colours and finishes. Gorgeous.

22:47 f1 power units definitely use that tech, it’s one of the many functions of then MGU-H

Love the podcast guys! You’re a right laugh. Keep going!

The EV you’re describing was built some time ago - it’s the BMW i3 Range Extender. I’ve done 65,000 miles in mine, easily 99% of that pure EV and then when I’ve had to do a drive longer than my 65 mile daily commute I’ve got the Range Extender.

The Porsche T Hybrid system is like spring drive on a Grand Seiko watch.

992.2 GTS is a huge jump, you’re getting 992.1 Turbo performance with no turbo lag. I don’t think the Carrera S will be the hybrid unit, they have already fitted larger turbos to the base Carrera engine, which leaves room for a souped up non-hybrid Carrera S. In terms of the GT3, Car magazine in March stated that the first 1500 992.2 GT3 will be 4.0 N/A, but after that it will switch to 3.6 n/a hybrid of the same output as the 4.0

Need to remember that Toyota have been the leaders in Hybrid’s. The first Prius was released back in 1999, they started it all. 👏🏻

I hope to see your Challenge Stradale passing by my hometown Grenoble 👋 very nice roads just next to here !

OMG! How more confused can you get after listening to Tony about the 911 Tech. Here a short list to counter that: 1. It is a NORMAL Hybrid - like we know it for most of the time. Hybrids that can be charged came later to the market. That is why they are called "Plug In Hybrids" and not just Hybrids. Standard Hybrids like the Prius (until the latest model) used the same concept. There was no charging at all. 2. Beside the extra electric motor on board like the normal Hybrids it has also a Turbo that has a electric motor in it to spool it up immediately. Same concept like the F1 currently uses. The Exhaust-Gases can also generate electricity that can be stored in the battery or can be used directly. So there is a extra functionality here. 3. The 2kwH Battery for the Hybrid System sits in the front, The normal Battery now in the rear. So if there is a Problem with the Hybrid Battery it can be exchanged quite easily and quick, 3. NO 911 has a ZF 8 Speed automatic. It is again a new Version of the PDK Box.

18:41 leaving space for a AWD system on the Carrera 4 GTS

When we wanted a replacement family car to go alongside our Alpine A110, the missus liked the thought of electric but hates wires so plugging in was a no no. We plumped for the new Nissan X-Trail which runs on electric only but has an engine as a generator. It works very well and is a good introduction to electric driving.

Great vid as always. Sam where did you get your Porsche Stuttgart art??

What hacks me off is that we're all being press ganged into carbon neutral transport but yet a container ship uses 250 tonnes of diesel a day, it's madness

I’m with Tony on how rewarding teaching your child how to ride a bike. I will still be around hopefully for when Tony teaches his daughter how to drive like him 😂 Keep up the good work Sam and Tony ❤

Possibly Sam’s greatest subtle dig at Tony ever…. 43:08 😂😂😂

Great video - enjoyed having more car content than the last one! A hybrid Porsche has to be progress if only to slow down the move towards full electric. Mazda do an interesting little SUV which has an 800cc rotary engine that charges the battery as you drive and doesn't drive the wheels at all. Don't be fooled by the talk around electric heavy trucks - for every kilo that goes on in battery weight, a kilo comes off the payload reducing revenue generating potential. Plus the range is still shite, they cost +100% more than a diesel equivalent and if you're charging a few together, the lights go out in the nearest town! And Tony, if you think riding a bike for the first time is precious, just wait until they drive away for the first time after passing their test - heart-warming and terrifying all at once!

Modified 4c's are pretty awesome with 4-500hp.

I did try with my beauty Touareg Tony 😅 !

Liking the Colour of your jumper Sam… matching your GT3 😉👌

so happy i have my 981 gts i will be driving that car for the next 20 years, never getting rid of it

8 seconds on the ring is a big difference.

Wasn’t the I3 and I8 battery with a range extender engine 🧐🧐🧐🧐

That BYD bus is actually mostly made of battery - it can only carry three people (including the driver) 😂

Tony going straight in on the 4C! 😂😂😂

Enjoyed listening, my son chuntering when listening to the podcast in the car, so missed half had to listen again to the Porsche part. Feel in some of the videos I have seen they have not really been able to demonstrate the speed, so think need to see it put against something.

My garage is literally an SVR CE & a 718 Spyder, but I usually don’t put a fake plant behind them.

The PDK EV motor actually makes 55hp. It’s the motor in the eTurbo that makes 15hp.

Still watching fpr tony only 😊

I can't agree on the exhaust noise. These newer cars with piped in sounds into the cabin. Give me a proper older V8 rumble anyday.

Good relations with neighbours are priceless!

For the small generator type of ev the mazda mx-30 r-ev exists which is a electric car with a rotary engine generator which extends the range considerably.

If im not mistaken, the Audi SQ7 (diesel) had similar tech with the electric motor for the turbos.

Just making the vehicles more complicated and more expensive to fix.

A couple things: -Porsche isn’t the first to use an electrically assisted turbo: both MB and JLR have inline 6 engines with similar tech. -one of the big reasons Porsche added this hybrid system is to comply with more stringent EU emissions regs - wasn’t strictly just for added performance -I think the electric motor part of the PDK will likely be the most reliable part of it - also it appears to be installed in place of a traditional flywheel so even if it goes wrong it wouldn’t require replacing the whole transmission -You guys kept using the phrase “self charging” and saying that the Porsche system doesn’t do that. Actually that’s the only way the battery is charged here- regen. -you guys seemed to think that somehow the batteries used in hybrids are more reliable than full EVs. Hybrid batteries experience way more charge/discharge cycles due to the smaller size and how they’re used. They also tend to lack the liquid cooling of full BEVs

Re that BYD bus, is there really much innovation happening, or is everyone just sticking in a bigger battery? Genuine question IMO the only metric that matters is the per mile efficiency, not range Range is easy to game, efficiency is a measure of like for like improvement…

I had a 4c and now own a 296 and 718 Spyder. The 4c is actually an incredible cheap to maintain track toy.

Don't shoot me please (I'm a petrolhead as much as anyone here), but I think it's weird Porsche hasn't gone a bit further with the hybrid tech to lower the CO2 number. That would really help the car in markets with massively punishing tax systems (Netherlands, France,...)

991.1 to 991.2 changed the power trains from 3.4L and 3.8 NA to smaller turbo engines. I’d say that’s a a pretty big mid generation change

You guys should give a listen what song Spike made for you and Tony while also discussing the new 911!

I bought a 4C because of you. Had proper cars since then. Get a Mini GP3 if you feel like another 4C

Don’t think you mentioned that the engine had increased from 3.0 to 3.6. I wondered if this would improve the engine sound?

I actually subscribed to STG while the 4C was on the channel.

The E-turbo technology was actually introduced in the Mercedes C43 AMG.

Clever launching the tech on the ‘fancy’ GTS version to test the waters. Turbo may have actual hybrid on top and others will have it so gt can stay na

Its quite easy to see that the focus is shifting away from EVs to hybrids when it comes to manufacturers and their strategies.

I wonder if Sam will continue podcasting when he becomes the Earl of Westmorland?

PDK literally stand for Porsche double clutch - Porsche Doppel Kupplung in German and it was co-developped with ZF, means Tony is not completely off, it is from ZF but it's a double clutch.

I started watching when you got the 4C

I drive Ev and M3 comp I think unless your a true petrol head there won’t be anything soon you will miss from an ice if it goes quieter than it is I’ll chuck the towel in

Another problem with ev's is the weight. My transit connect has a gross weight of 2.2t, my boss xc40 weighs 3t. Engineers are having to workout if carparks can take the weight. And lorrys jumping to 50t, the roads are already wearing out too quickly.

Porsche has made a very smart play here, remember how they removed the manual option in the 991.1 gt3 and everyone revolted, for next generation gt3 they brought it back and people went crazy for it. With this is new hybrid 911 they trying come up with more aesthetic differences between the rest of the 911’s and the gt3 that’s going to come in the future, so people will miss the analog gauge cluster and the classic starter switch and they are going to give the 992.2 gt3 all of that and a bit more and say you want the old times to roll back just buy the new gt3 and everyone will go crazy for it.

I think the incoming GT2 RS will have the e Turbo hybrid tech.

I miss your videos from days with F-type

Check Edison Motors out, they are making an EV lorry with a diesel generator on it for that extra chargeability for those sticky situations.

YASA are the company that manufatures the electric motors in many electric and hybrid cars. Ferrari and Merc, for example. The electric motors aren't used to capacity so the likes of Ferrari or Merc can launch a new car in the coming years with the same electric motor, just turned up a little.

The battery tec may off moved forward, but i dont think so, its all in the cost and to make us pay more, there was nothing wrong with the old led batteries.

Yes F1 uses electric turbo its called MGU-H - hybrid is electric motor on the turbo, can boost and recover energy.

The electric turbo isn’t new. F1 tech and Mercedes launched it on the W206 C43.

My first proper car was a 911… always had some affinity with it….. maybe I’m getting old and grumpy but that one just left me feeling cold. Didn’t hate it, didn’t like it…. Just disinterested.

Vote paul for full time on these chats, I’m not convinced used car salesman can be unbiased, well it’s obvious to me

the start stop button is horrendous though, it's something you associate with porsche and comes from their racing history, why now of all times do they change it to generic crap. They left on long enough for people to appreciate it and realise it's a porsche racing thing, just to bin it. Imagine if they got rid of the G-Wagon door sound, it's just opening the door but it's a big part of the character of the car.

doesn't 992.2 GTS have all new engine?

I don't know about other markets, but here in India the new hybrid GTS is more expensive than the 992 GT3!

Porsche know people do not like change when it comes to 911's all too well. They feel pressure to shift to electric and know their audience. They will start with this and slowly increase the amount of electric propulsion. I expect in a few years the only purely ICE Porsche will be from the GT division.

You drive and get a coffee loved it when you used to do that 😊

Sam black car behind you it looks really good.

The battery will be covered under drivetrain warranty and the cell will last just as long as the rest of the motor

To me, and maybe with some bias as an owner, but for purists, I don’t think you can truly look past a 991.1. 3.4 or 3.6 with a sports exhaust simply isn’t beatable - even if you sacrifice some of the mod cons!

Can you imagine being stuck on that bus when there is the inevitable lithium battery fire? I spend ~3.5 hours on buses for my work commute everyday and that idea horrifies me. The windows don't even open on modern buses. On hot days in Australia where 75% of the buses aircon is broken, they're a nightmare. You can't breath. Transport companies use these things until they die... Maintenance and care aren't exactly their priority. Profit is. The last thing the world needs is giant electric scooter, highly flammable lithium batteries under your ass when commuting to your work place on public transport on a 45 degree day.

Other positive aspect of hybrids: if/when batteries die, you can still use the car..

We’ve gone from ‘ cars don’t break anymore’ to it’s broken before it turns a wheel….I’m sure your safe with Porsche

I’d agree with going Toyota for hybrid

How can a car have no external noise?😂

‘Literally’ bingo is strong in this one…….

I would imagine the motor replaces the torque convertor othe manufacturers do this.

Was that an actor that keeps walking past?

On the subject of HGV's you say weight doesn't matter and you can put loads of batteries in then. Thats not the case at all as HGV's can only weight so much so by putting loads of batteries in them you have less for payload so earn less money. Thats more important the performance.

Why oh why do these e-fuel manufacturers insist on taking the CO2 back in the process of making the fuel instead of just planting hemp and let that do the sequestration? Perhaps it's because normal oil could also be carbon neutral with that method...... 50:50

I've always found when it comes to Hybrids people tend to be in two camps. They're either the best of both worlds, or the worst of both worlds. To the former they're good because you've got electric power when needed and a petrol engine for longer journeys. But for the latter they're hopeless, you've got a small petrol engine and a heavy battery with a low range. I'm personally all for Hybrids. The infrastructure just isn't there for mass adoption of EVs, no matter what anyone says. I also think that manufacturers should have been allowed to continue developing the internal combustion engine rather than effectively banning it. Just think of how clean they'd be able to get them. As of a few years ago (it probably isn't the case anymore) the cleanest most efficient engine available was the V8 diesel in the Range Rover. And as for the no external noise from any car mandate, that's just completely ridiculous in my opinion!

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e turbocharger are not new, and Porsche dropped the ball on this, the whole range could have gotten a real power bump, and we could have had more bang for our buck, thus is just more stuff that will break and need replacement.

Prediction... 992.2 standard Carreras will hold their values better than the new 992.2 GTS... simply cause of the hybrid system and the costs involved.

Imagine a turbo s with electric turbo technology

I bet if it was Ford doing this hybrid thing it wouldn't be getting hailed as "revolutionary" ;)

Hybrid is a stop-gap measure, not the future.

Everyone loves a trip to Luxembourg to visit their private wealth banker 👍🏻 With interest rates dropping , one might as well withdraw some 💰 funds and purchase a car. Enjoy

Pretty sure Mercedes where the first to do e turbos in road cars and they got it from the f1 car. The Porsche e turbo isnt revolutionary by any measure.😂 Stop drinking the coolaid

It sounds like what Hyundai use in their SUV.

330e is cracking

Im all over place sam like you where i really want to try ev seen few 2021 mach e one is 24k other 26 think might be steal for ev with range for in city work and out country and back on weekends with some style points. Audi e-tron 4 door here is still high 30s used in the usa 🇺🇸. As future realy see these new battery tec Japanese water batteries smaller batteries take a foot hold kai all ready have some sub 400 mile range . . But also see hydrogen tech going crazy right know in performance they get are crazy .

Embarrassing misunderstanding of the new 992.2 GTS. What it most certainly is not is a MHEV+!

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These accents have to stop Sam 🤣

How can you say sound outside the car isn't important..... You two not sounding like car guys!

Love you guys. But an hour about a 911 refresh? After you've been discussing it before the official reveal. Drifting into the topic of the future of engines... You're repeating yourself for a hundredth time on this one. Nothing's really changing that much, take it easy. ❤

so our public transport will be reliant on a Chinese company, what could go wrong, right?