I’m calling it now - y’all’s content is about to explode. Each channel. The information is there. The trust is there and the algorithm is about to swing to your side! Keep going!

The best woman shooter in the world runs a Darton. She ran a Hoyt before a Darton, and she was/is the best with Hoyt and now Darton. The best 3D woman shooter in the world runs a Bowtech. The only point being it is mostly about the shooter, not the bow brand, most bows will outshoot the person all day long. Go with what you like!

I'm not a Mathews fan but even I have to admit they did a great job this year.

Great pod guys really enjoyed the discussion. I didn’t wait around and was the 2nd person at my local shop to walk out with a lift. Shot Hoyt the last 8 years, but that Mathew’s really held and shot well for me.

Look forward to every week's video. Keep them coming!

This is my new addiction, listing to you guys. Ive have been going down a bunch of rabbit holes because of your podcast and dan. Love the podcast and wish i lived closer!

Really enjoy all the content guys. Keep it rollin!!

Love the podcasts. Thank you for your time to keep putting them out for us to enjoy.

Unbiased truth is why I watch your channels! Keep it up, I have learned a lot watching you both!

Outstanding Podcast. Two things. One is MFJJ’s opinion on equipment is number one thing I look for before buying anything. 30+ years in the industry is good enough for me. Two Levi Morgan is one of the nicest guys you will ever meet. I am fortunate enough to live close by and have interacted with him on numerous times and he is a class act!

You can definitely do it with your resources. I bought my bow Wednesday night at 6pm. My shop put rest Mx-2, HHA Tetra Ryz, and G5 peep in. I went there at 11am the next morning after I went to work and we paper tuned it. We had to move the top hats but within 15 minutes we were shooting bullet holes. I left there and came home and sighted it in at 20. I don’t have a place to shoot 60 (tetra site in procedure) so I went to my buddies shop and we set up a 60 yd shot. Literally by Thursday night- 24 hours later I had my new tape on and was shooting 1” dots at 20/30/40/50. You could do it in 12 hours. BTW thanks for the SCS system I bought from you.

The reviews from bow shops is where it is at. Also local bow shop techs. Shooting every line you can if you buy or not gives you the best feedback and experience.

MFJJ on your phase 4 33 video from last year, 80 and 85% had the same speed.

Still my favorite Podcast of all time. And I watch Salty Cracker and Dan Bongino religiously too. Keep up the awesome work gentlemen. 🤘🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🤘🏼

great talk guys. Looking forward to more

Good podcast…Lucky Shot Archery in Chehalis, WA will have just over 100 lifts by January also!!

You sure make me glad I grabbed the new lift 29.5 from my local dealer. Was able to be the first one they sold it too which is kind of cool also

never could get into podcasts but I listen to yours non stop keep up the great work

I appreciate what you guys do. Keep at it. Thank you. Great podcast.

yet another great podcast, good info great conversations and topics, keep it going fella's

I love that mentality Josh. I never order bows Im way too impatient. Im in new york and could drive to lancaster (5h) but found a lift 33 locally in earth and bought it. Would love to have a shop like yours or lancaster locally.

Interesting discussion on who draws more sales to a company. I’m a west coast/mountain hunter, but we forget about Midwest and east coasters and how many people they influence in these discussions. Interesting that Seek One has 2x the number of KZfaq subs as Cam, 2.5x Chris Bee, nearly 4x Dudley, and more than 10x Levi Morgan. And Hunting Public has way more than those guys too. I get YT numbers isn’t everything. And Seek One and Hunting Public are “teams,” but they have way more hunting impact (and likely bow sales-even if they don’t sponsor than they got credit for. And I didn’t give any credit to LIFT until this discussion. Because of who was bought and who was not.

Sensitive and Spicy Feelings. Where's the online appointment set up to have MFJJ level, time, tune a bow I bring from Canada and drive 8hr for the magical bow blessings? Take my money.

I bought my Mathews after watching Chris Bee. I love his videos. And yours of course! 😊

Great job guys love the content!

Excellent content guys. Gives us here, living over the pond in Europe, a good picture about the market in the US. Of course having been a subscriber already before watching... 😉

Damn, I bought a Phase 4 thinking it might be the last bow I bought for a really long time, and then I saw the LIFT on release day 3 months after my purchase. Talk about feeling like you just bought a second rate product after the ink on the check barely dried. As for the pod, Tim you always have relevant questions, and MFJJ, I just love that you haven't sold out. You both are so correct, there are very few places left that you can get an unfiltered and honest reviews. The fact that you do it with some personality, is awesome.

Just bought a mathews LIFT 33 at SVA today. Michael was awesome.

As always, awesome insights!!!

Getting the most from a bow in stored energy - the LIFT sets a new archery standard - no carbon riser bow really can compare, ...yet. Problem with carbon is the tolerances from shrink during the baking and cooling process while trying to preserve straightness tolerances so the risers fit the limb pockets as exactly designed. Torque from an off set cable guard has been known to pull the bowstring to the side (lateral deflection) with certain models / or occasionally get crunched in a bow press by accident. Carbon riser bows have future potential (not yet ready at an affordable price) to make archery equipment next level. We never made a carbon riser bow at CSS so I hand drilled out a riser as a prototype that we called the Swiss cheese bow and I made the top half of the riser weigh much less than below the grip for a short hunting bow. Chuck shot the bow while wearing a football helmet ... amazing to see how much bows have changed in just 20 years.

Josh, dude I’ve been looking everywhere for a Mathews quiver in Earth. Saw this podcast and placed my order. Thank you for keeping stuff stocked. Will be ordering some bridgelock stabs here soon. Thanks man

Great conversation guys! Wish I was in on this discussion, so many great topics here.

😂 Josh and Tim are hilarious. I understand what Tim was trying to say Cam reaches a broad spectrum of folks vs Bee/Morgan. But he’s by far the most influential out of those mentioned.

Thank you for this. I was hoping you would scan the wall so we could all see the bows that had Joel so enamored. I've been watching a ton of videos with Joel and love his advice. I didn't know about his on line class so I will be checking it out along with that new release. I definitely need the help to break my habits of punching the release.. Thanks again and I can't wait to get back over to your shop in Spokane and shoot your course. I was able to visit for a few minutes a few weeks ago. I had your team make me some arrows. They turned out great.

I'll be in this week to upgrade, as long as you have the quantity.

Mathews and Hoyt are awesome bows. Can't go wrong with either. Great content.

43:17 I love the conversation about Mathews vs other company GTM strategy and sales teams. That's a challenge I'd love to help a company in this space solve to free up capital for reinvestment while still taking care of customers (shops). It's absolutely solveable and comes down to willingness to focus on the company's long term upside. I envy whoever takes this on.

Very,Very good podcast. Been here from the start. I'm not going to lie, I thought I would get bored of these after a video or two. Now you can catch me waking up and watching MFJJ and Tim every Monday. You two have a cool friendship, love seeing you guys interact. Thanks for doing this for us true archery nerds... Happy Holidays ✌️

Hunting success. Lee and tiff

Compared to other hobbies I follow on YT, I’m new here and surprised the archery channels have relatively small numbers of followers. Very few have been close to or over 100,000 subscribers. In comparison, speedcubing has tons in the 300,000 to 1 million+. Same with running, jeeping, mountain biking, road cycling, triathlon, etc. it’s a much smaller hobby.

This was the best pod to date. Stepping into the nitty gritty. Tim was scared but MFJJ DGAF!

Great episode. Subscribed.

Agreed 💯 when the person you watching is paid.

I love archery so much, I know your market is all hunting but I’d love to hear some talk on 3D/Target

I came in to see ya the other day but you were out hunting.😢 lol but did shoot the Mathew’s and Hoyt . And with my bad wing the Hoyt was smoother but was 65lbs compared to the Mathew’s at 70. Need to come back in and see ya brother man and just sit down and chit chat and maybe throw some more arrows

I picked up a used trx38 G2 this past spring - I thought this was the most honest back walled bow but expected it because it's a target bow. I then pick up my lift 33 last week and I think the wall and draw keeps me even more honest than the TRX. The lifts riser is longer than the TRX and at release, the Lift feels like more of a surprise shot. Might be offloading the TRX 38 and getting a 2nd lift exclusively for 3D and indoor. As stated, the hype is real.

Great podcast guys

Mathew could have the market if they could get rid of shimms/spacers and make a move on bowtech direction

I’m looking for a place to settle with the wife and have some kids. I want to move wherever these guys have their shop so I can get product and have this level of expertise. This video is awesome. Keep it up.

Me too brand of the century. "Oh you shoot a Mathews? Me too" No thanks.

Nicely done

I have shot Mathews for years. Latest Being the Phase 4 33. The zebra strings are so bad for peep twist. MFJJ convinced me to put gas strings on earlier this year and I haven’t had peep twist since.

My son and I currently run the following brands of bows........Bear, Prime, Hoyt, Mathews, Bowtech. So, we are not biased at all. All brands have pros and cons and it is a personal choice for sure. It is a crack up to watch all of the comparisons every year when the new bows are released. Great entertainment for sure. The reality is, most people do have a bias even if they think they don't. Just human nature to argue for something you believe in. That is all good. But, if we are grounded in reality and look at facts....it can get uncomfortable. For example, this year, Hoyt made more positive changes to their bow than Mathews did. Hoyt changes this year include: New riser (Alpha X) New limbs New limb pockets New cam 75-85% let of on the cam Different backwall settings on the cam 1/4" draw adjustment on the cam New strings New bow stand Quiver can now attach closer to the riser than before New colors/camo options Same price as 2022 Mathews made many changes as well, but they did not make more than Hoyt. So just be honest about that. Hoyt came to the table with massive changes to their flagships. Mathews is much more strategic than Hoyt with marketing and they spend more money on marketing. Which is also just fine. Lots of great choices, and also great to see Darton and Athens starting to shake up the industry a bit too..........

Hoyt built Chris bee

My dad is going to SVA next week and I'm mad jealous about it.

nice dog, i think she wants out. great info too.

I thought this was goin to be the 1 were the glass in the stove door would get broken forsure 🤣

So many great topics… in the Mathews Lift, I don’t see the cutting edge innovation! I will take a closer look.

You should do a review on the Apa black mamba.

When Hoyt released their bows I really thought I was going to want an RX8 Ultra then Mathews came out with the Lift and made things tough.

MFJJ, Really hope you will do your how to shoot video series soon. You've mentioned several times you will do some how tos, it is time man!!

Interesting listen

I’m gonna fly from NY for my Mathew’s

Matt McPherson is mission-minded and gives credit to Jesus Christ, not only for the original design of cams but still today gives God the credit for the products he is making. The hype is holy. There is a reason Matthews has so much success.

Would really like to see a review of the new Athens Lineup!

Had an SS34 for deer/elk this year. Upgraded to a Lift for next year. It's a HUGE upgrade! I love the Mathews Lift. Wish I would have done the phase 4 instead of the SS34.

I went too hard on the aggressive cam in search of speed and regretted it. My Athens Revelation was speedy for sure with a 350 ibo, but it just destroyed my shoulder. The Lift is certainly not what I would consider aggressive. It’s tougher than my VTM 34 but not by a large margin.

Hey Josh and Tim, just went over your point that not every archery shop knows what they are doing, as an employee of a shop that could update their strategies on tuning and set up, how could a lower level employee try and bring some insight to their set up. Love the content, I've learned a lot from Josh and I want to make a difference in my small community of archers

Def Levi!

Remember when Cameron Hanes was a hardcore DIY public land dude?

I tested the lift a couple of days ago it’s amazing. Gonna sell my bow so I can get it. That lift is so smooth on the draw. 60lbs felt way easier than 60lbs on my PSE fortis.

I wish I had a shop like yours around

I would love to see Bowtech get more marketing content from the Element guys. I think they are fantastic personalities and make the best and most authentic whitetail content out there

Love this lift bow but Dan shot his lift at 80% and 85% lettoff and they were the same speed

Just a recommendation: Track your sales this year (Draw Length, Weight & Let-off). Plug all that in a spreadsheet and next year you could be a bit more strategic on what mods and how many you buy.

Just asking but have you all looked at APA bows? I was just wondering how good they are and they are very light and fast.

The last pod you said how Mathew’s did all of this stuff in one year and were singing their praises but Darton built a whole new bow from axle to axle and got crickets. Stuff like that is why people think you are Mathews fan girls

Yes. Chris Bee started with Hoyt

KZfaq is that best source for the average joe like myself looking for reviews of product. Mathews nabbing Chris Bee was a game changer. Levi Morgan is right up there too in terms of content creation on KZfaq. Throw Dudley in there too. On another note - with you guys being out west, has anyone else noticed how many content creators are moving to Iowa to gain that coveted Iowa residency?.? And then turning around and cranking out whitetail content based on their residency due to not having to wait every five years to draw a tag? ---- Button hooks back to what moves the needle in the archery industry.... and that's hunters.

It does look like a solid bow. I am curious what the riser stiffness looks like on all of these bows.

If we are talking about solely about whose more influential as bow hunters, would we consider the THP crew in the top 5? I’d think their content has gotten a lot of folks into bow hunting let alone hunting with any mechanism.

Yes Chris Bee started at Hoyt

My only point about Mathew’s saying “a carbon bow can’t be made as well as an aluminum bow” is, “you’re not the CUSTOMER!” We WANT a carbon Mathew’s, so build us one already. Stop being so pretentious up on that mountain top, and give the consumer what they’re asking for already. Customer is ALWAYS right. And who knows? You might just advance the market place, again, and learn a few things along the way you didn’t realize you would. I know they’d rip the stinkin’ cover off the ball, and the other carbon manufacturers would be loosing sleep over their entry into the carbon bow space. Can you even imagine?!

JJ has a Big Set , To put out that kind of Money in Inventory! He must have the Best Shop in the US ? The Shop I go to has very Little Inventory , No Target Bows no Target Sights or any Target Accessories so you Target Archers who Live in Washington enjoy JJ Shop !!!

Definitely a way harder cycle. That’s why I’ve never went with Mathew’s. Also it had a lot of jump on my hand. If I was gonna accept all that I would just get the carbon pse it’s way lighter and aggressive.

My shop is loaded

My local bow shop owner shoots professionally for mathews. Very nice guy and does a great job setting bows up right. His name is Sam Smith

I do have one question, Josh is talking about how much Mathew’s is ahead on there manufacturing correct? Then why can’t they get the mods built and sent out before the dealers get the bows. I don’t dislike Mathew’s but it’s pretty aggravating for me to try one when 2 dealers with in an hour of me don’t have mods for me to try. Other than that love the podcast

Lee Lakosky in the hunting industry.

I got lucky and got a Lift 29.5 in Earth. It’s freaking awesome. Draws just a little little little bit stiffer than my Phase 4. Definitely faster than the phase 4. Same mods, same arrows and CBE sights. The lift is 2 sight tapes faster if that makes sense. I am getting a little peep twist with the match strings 😬

The Mathew’s draw cycle. Was good. Comparing it to Hoyt. Also I didn’t feel like the Mathew’s was not as stable. And iv been a Mathew’s guy for a long time.

I'm a Hoyt guy but really aiming to get into a LIFT 33

Matt McPherson is a genius

GUESS WHAT MY 7 YEAR OLD BOW SHOOTS JUST AS WELL AS MY NEW BOW. ITS JUST AS ACCURATE. ITS AL HYPE AND MARKETING. ITS about show me the money.

Hey. If Tim or Josh see this is there anyway Josh knows if the SX80 limb pockets can be installed on an SS34? I want to upgrade the pockets if possible but bowtech will not let me know if they are compatible. Thanks.

Good podcast. However, I'm not buying all the hype for hunting purposes. Most people should simply spend more time and money afield. I'm glad the lift has been a huge success though: it has made the 8 limb design a moot point. Last year this time all of the influencers were saying the Phase 4 was a huge gamble with the RPD limbs. And now no one focuses on it. Regarding a more aggressive and faster cam that the lift has, nah. And for the weight savings that gets washed out when full loaded. But I get it, a lighter bow in a bow shop will be impressive. I can't wait for the true bow comparisons that the print media does for all aspects of archery. Who knows if the Lift is going to be more forgiving or accurate than the other '24 bows.

Weird skip happening in the video from 38:40 - 39:06

JJ seems to be wanting ti say something he cant say. After what you said I feel like I can never get or order a Mathews. Lift.

The lift is the lightest aluminum bow i have ever shot. You have said multiple times in many videos how light equals more vibration. I agree and when it i shot the lift it had riddicouls vibration. My last bow was an V3X, and i wanted to love the new lift 33. I walked away with an RX8 ultra. Every bow is shooting close to the same speed, 10 FPS shouldn't make a difference when you're shooting 270+ FPS. The RX8 was a way better shooting experience. You talk up mathews on all your videos like it's the best bow but are ALOT better options out there. But that all we hear you talk about...

Been staying away on purpose from mathews because of the hype, and mods, grip and their specific stabilizers, but…I just went to a shop and shot both the 29.5” and the 33” and come to find out, I had to order one!!! 😂 That is a super light and awesome bow to shoot, and im a Bowtech guy.