Excellent video as always. 🙏 Thank you for having me on, Jimmy!

Thanks for having Mario in the video! Voltage sag and the true Wh (energy) delivered by the pack are critical. Much more important than the capacity rating and even the current rating (as long as you are not abusing that). The P42A is a great performer and an even better cell is on the way, the P45B, that will hopefully be used by the manufacturers.

Looking forward to a range test and maybe an acceleration test compared with the normal S18

Range test against standard edition would be very welcome.

Super helpful to have Mario give us an expert explanation of the differences between batteries.

Sorry Andrew.... you're demoted 🤣Jimmy's son did an excellent stand in for you today on this S18 Special look. On a serious note though.. good to see King Song looking at ways to improve an older model instead of begoding a new one instead... That was really nice to see... "we have a good wheel.. lacking in a few areas.. can we improve it without having to make a whole new wheel" Thanks as always Jimmy for sharing and see you on the next episode

I loved the instructional bit on how batteries work. As a newbie to PEVs, it’s important info which is frequently overlooked

such a great video as always!

I think they should be putting P42A's in every new high performance wheel made. Excellent informative video!

was looking forward to the reviews for this edition ..love S18

Thanks Jimmy for the great review! I just got the S18 with the Molicels as my first wheel, and I'm glad to get some validation in my purchase. As a larger rider, I haven't had any problems with it, but I do not plan on doing anything extreme on it anyway. I'm looking forward to getting the hang of EUCs and having some fun. You recommended some better pedals and power pads, where do you get those from?

Great, I'm really looking forward to the full review🎉

Thank you! Much needed education

You touch on a point that I think needs to be addressed by manufacturers… but they are so focused on the high speed, long range audience… but nobody is catering at all to the folks who don’t ride 40+ miles at a time…. Wish there were more options at the 30MPH / 40-50lbs spec of wheel! Not all of us wanna spend days in the gym just to be able to deadlift our EUCs!

This video very clearly explains the difference in performance between onewheel XR and GT, with the XR analogous to the S18 (old battery) and GT analogous to the S18 (molicel). The battery performance difference manifests with the exact symptoms described here.

I got the XL Kai pads for my S18. Love them! They replace the lower X shaped pads the wheel comes with, so they look like they were made for it from the factory. I got them mostly to hold me on better for curb hops, as I am nervous about overpowering the wheel with the original batteries. Might be looking to upgrade my battery packs soon...

Great video. I can’t wait to see the performance stats.

I was kinda hoping you were gonna give this a bad review. Lol. I just bought my first EUC a few weeks ago. First I watched a ton of youtube videos by you, Chooch, Ginger, Wrong Way, etc. During that time of course I watched the video of the new Kingsong catching fire in NYC. So of course after I ordered my S18 from Ewheels and Jason emailed me asking if I wanted to wait a couple weeks, pay a couple extra hundred bucks and get a new special S18 with a new battery, I said no. I didn't want to be one of the first to get it only to find it prone to blowing up. Now I kinda think I should have waited. Oh well. But whatever! I'm loving this thing. Did my first ride across town yesterday and it was amazing! Thanks for all your great videos!

great video Jimmy and Ethan, love the idea of P42A battery in them... what a great idea.. s18 problem was the energy delivery and chance of cut out if pulling too much power... i guess this solves the problem... how you liking the Sherman Max?

I love that you ran into to that dude who knew you! I lived in denver for 3 years and discovered you AFTER I moved away..

Awesome 😎 thanks brother 🙏

WELL DONE GUYS! Please keep preaching to everyone that we NEED high discharge cells in all EUCs. Its total nonsense to put high capacity cells in EUCs.

That interaction was so damn wholesome!

Yeah Molicel cells are the only ones I want in any future battery, until something even better comes along. I have been trying to get a custom 72v 18ah triangle built with these cells, but can't find a reliable builder. Thank you for this excellent video. Cheers.

After watching this video and seeing that the S22 won’t be shipped until July,I went ahead and got the S18 Special Edition. I like riding trails and all, but the majority of the time I’m a city rider. I’m looking forward to feeling the difference of the S18 and my current ride, a 16x. Thanks for the video!

I've been enjoying mine as a first wheel. Hoping to see someone with more experience test the limits of the Molicel packs and to see where its limits and cutouts might be.

Jimmy enjoy your channel. In fact because of it my wife and I own 3 scooters. 2 Yumes a d4+ and a Y10. Then just got a wolfking gt pro. Loving all of it. One more thing... My wife and I are 68 years old. Just goes to show you your only as old as you feel.

I am so so curious about this wheel. Can't wait for a range test

Great video, I have a Sherman just over one year old but found myself wanting a suspension wheel last November, I didn’t want to take a risk on a first edition s20 so went for the s18. I had no idea that they had any updates coming so surprise! I have not had a chance to do much on the S18 and it is getting some sweet pads fitted at the moment I will upgrade my foot plates myself. Get to the point I hear you say. Can you change the battery pack just switch them over I guess it’s not that simple. Fantastic video once again thank you. John

Nice video. Any suggestion on how to lock lock the pedals up with not in use? Mine flops down when I'm pushing it around.

I’d be interested in a range test on the molicel pack vs the standard pack.

I have a set of the Molicel P42A packs coming for my Nikola, and am happy to see these finally become available for EUCs after reading about them on the E-Skate groups.

Thanks ! Do you know if it's possible ton convert and old version with the molicel ?

that speed lock seems like a really good idea since i see this as a new user wheel. light weigh, better battery and decent size wheel. its like "hey, learn how to ride this slowly first. then after putting in the training and learning, then ill let you go faster". very smart.

I just got Kai power pads for my S18. It's a must have if you're riding that wheel!

S18 is a sick wheel. I'm light and love the stock batteries it shreds offroad I've felt nothing better.

have you done any videos on being safe with charging and the batteries in general?

@Jimmy Chang Can you mke an updated comparison between this, KingSong S18 with the molicel battery vs the tried and tested Inmotion V11?

Could you list your safety gear and where to buy them in all your video

My first take of the euc was that it looked like full face helmet.

Hey Jimmy, loved the video, but was hoping to get your thoughts on power delivery, tourque and range vs. the original version. Penny for your thoughts?

*can we switch our old version ks s18's battery with molicel p42 ? I hope the answer is yes.*

Does the news version with the hollow motor of steel based on the same cell and any information on how this new mix is delivering?

Would like to know whats the max speed at 50%, 30%, 15% battrey reading and what range can we get at 20mph speed. Thank you

Waiting for ur next video molicell s18

How is tht pump you used compared to the one tht comes with the master ?

Price tag aside, are there any downsides to using this is a beginner's wheel? I seem to fall in the category of "heavier rider" at 220lbs so I've been contemplating something like this or the V11 to learn on.

does this limited edition use the same Controller board as the old one we have? if so, maybe battery upgrade can make the old S18 shine again, because I love to ride my S18 even though my inmotion V12 HT is here since last week.

Hi, did you make a range test from 100% to 30% when the FW will slow down the wheel ?

Jimmy Chang, i love youre contents and videos... but i feel a little let down i would have expect maybe another 2/3 days for you to test and get the real world data since alot of us already know about the s18 hope to see what those p42 actually does better!!!

great video! Also, maybe consider adding chapters to future vids?

I got the molicel version a few weeks ago and really enjoy it, I live in a strange area to ride and most of my riding is around my yard and in the woods beside my house, since the S22 has been delayed I went for the 18 molicel for it's better torque (hopefully) and lighter weight and I'm glad I did. It feels very similar acceleration wise as my MCM5V2 and of course the suspension is butta. I figured I'd run the battery down quick but it's not bad even at my 210lbs, I did also opt for the fast charger which is a good investment imo. Oh, I haven't even added pads yet, it won't really be for power but for stability.

So what exactly is the difference? I only saw 14 added miles or is that coming out in your next video? I have the S-18 I love the wheel but would like more power and twice the distance.

I ride a standard s18 and have been concerned with the safety margin of the 3p pack, I am 70kg lightweight and as an older person do not push the wheel hard, but am getting close to top speed often and would like to be able to accelerate a bit more harder at times, According to EUC World my typical max current usually doesn't exceed 15amp, could this be correct ?? just cruising along at 30+ kph current is about 6amps again according to EUC world which is I assume just reading the kingsong firmware output. if the readings can be trusted I seem to have plenty of overhead , any opinion on this??

Jut got mine in from ehweels! Thanks for the video im just learning how to ride this thing and i realy appreciate the video! Can someone out there direct me in the right direction for the spiked pedal pads? THANKS!

Just wondering about the conclusion. How much better and in what way? Can you get just the batteries to upgrade your existing S-18 if worth while?

can you do a range test for the new battery

Looking forward to a more detailed review! Do these cells also increase the maximum speed?

are all the s18´s on sale new that are rated 1110W, molicel versions ?

Voltage sag is very important. The electric power delivered is Watts = voltage x current.(amps) . The motor has windings, the controller has resistance and transients, the battery has interconnects, and connecting everything is wiring and connectors. Measurable resistance is everywhere. The losses due to resistance (heat) are amps (squared) x resistance. As the voltage sags, the amps go up to deliver the same power, but the resistance losses (heat) rise exponentially. So, if the voltage sags 10&, the amps rise 10% but the heat generated rises by 21%. Resistance rises with temperature. So, more power is consumed in resistance losses which reduces the voltage getting to the motor which must be compensated by more amps to maintain power. This goes around in circles and can lead to thermal runaway. This is the primary reason our wheels have increased voltage. However, high voltage MOSFETS are more expensive and there are diminishing returns for increasing the voltage. Motors also generate back emf which is a generator effect. The faster these motors run, the more back emf or blocking voltage is generated. Back emf is the reason you have a no load speed when you lift a running wheel. You cannot eliminate resistance, but its one of the trade off choices that have to be made by the manufacturer. Changing the battery pack is about the only thing you can to about it as a consumer.

I had the option to get the special edition but I didn't see any information regarding it so I went with the other one for more range.....

I set a current alarm on EUC World of 20A to alert me if I am using the amount of current I have chosen to limit myself to. Actually for the most part this works fine and I still have some head room if I need it. I tend to get around 26 miles on a charge from the LG batteries but I'm not a particularly aggressive rider, I tend to ride in the 20-26mph range when I'm on a run. Slower off road. Off road the S18 is the business, even with the new wheels coming out they are too big to surpass it. I don't use jump pads with the S18, what I have done is put Nylonove Spike Footplates on it, which made all the difference.

This is great! Also worth noting that the S18 has only 3 packs in parallel. The max current available is only 3x the cell rating. Most other wheels have 4or more. So it’s even more important here to have it available. Original s18 can only achieve a nominal power of 1800w (up to 4800w for 10s) even though the motor is rated at 2200w (5000peak). So it was always throttled. They went for the spec of 1100wh over performance… inmotion did the same, v11 had cutouts (they actually gave the community a choice, it chose poorly). Gotway broke the trend by putting mixed packs in the exn to increase power delivery available. Now we’re given a choice, it’s much appreciated.

Do you think you could upgrade the old batteries for the new upgraded ones????.

I have the inmotion v11 but this is tempting to get 🤔

You should really include a range test. Would it match the range of my Nik+? Are these new cells safer (not bursting into flames in the middle of the night)? Perhaps they need to release a new version of the S18 with more robust parts, better pads and the information display from the S20. Your review is called "Is the Molicel battery upgrade worth it?" but then doesn't answer that very question.

How much range can you get out of it?

Great video! Did not know these types of PEVs were more than just a niche martket. That said, I'm interested in getting one but are they actually street-legal(?) Reason I ask, I would hate to spend $2k+ only to find out they are not street legal :'(

did not really learn if the molicel battery upgrade is worth it?

E-wheels does NOT always send wrist guards with their unis. I didn’t get any when I received my s18 from them

You didn't mention any of the differences from the regular cells in your review. I thought you were going to test this new battery.

Molicel for the S22 pro?

Please tell me the new pack has a higher voltage!!! If it is the same as the old, it has less capacity...

Hi! Do you know if they sell these battery packs separately so older S18 wheels can be upgraded?

ugh I can pre-ordered one, but it would shit at the end of freaking August, and since I have no wheel atm, I dont think I want to wait that long 😭

That random guy was so cute and wholesome

Sir let me tell you why I dislike you. I am a heavily invested Eskater and before watching this video I HATED unicycles. You are so good at what you do , I am now beginning to like them , hence you broke my spirit. Curses !. BTW you really cool on that thing Chang ( gosh I hate to admit that). I am trying so hard not to become one of you guys. I really am now let me get away from this video. Feels like a black rabbit hole sucking me in. I may talk crap, but Anyways, I gave you a thumbs up.

Hi Jimmy, watching this I got homesick for my old S18 that I had previouslysold. Amazing that your son is in college already! The big question I have is what is the range you'll be able to get on this with a molicel versus the stock batteries. With the stock I was able to ride it to 45 miles of range with 0% remaining so very interested to see how far you could get with the Molicell.

when will you be releasing the master crash video?

Is this wheel now safer for a heavier 210lb rider who rides around 25mph. Or is the upgraded battery still not enough buffer for this weight of rider. Thanks !

I want to see a range test. I think 1800wh would be a better option. This wheel is more for recreation than for daily use

using my S18 for daily city commute and trails during summer... after 3.600 km ridden i can really tell the batterylife is getting lower.

The Molicel P42A can handle 30 to 40 amps, but that translates into 90 to 120 amps with the 20S3P configuration. The S18 controller board and motor can't handle this, so the fuses remain at 20 amps, translating into 60 amps for the controller and motor (actually 66 amps, since blade fuses are spec'ed to run 100+ hours at 110% current rating). The controller board is going to limit this further still, but I don't know by how much. If it can handle 60 amps, then at 60 amps, based on testing, a 50E or M50T battery pack will sag about 14 volts, while a P42A pack will sag about 9 volts, so a P42A pack can output the same power with 5 volts less battery charge. The unknown here is what the peak power that the controller will allow.

I just got a Nikola with molicel packs today from ewheels. Gonna see how it feels tomorrow.

I feel like this video was incomplete as others have mentioned, hope to see a follow up video soon.

I'm lookin to get a ECU, the Sherman Max is the one I'm thinking about. What is a good cheap-ish ECU to get to learn on? Or is the Sherman Max a good One Time Buy?

I persoannly would like to thank Ewheels for sending wrist gaurds with my V11. Otherwise, I would have underestimated their importance. I now know. Thanks Jason and Ewheels for caring enough to do that. Now, when can I get this battery upgrade for my V11? HUH?

They definitely make a difference with my high end flashlights.

Within the first week of riding mine, it had a nasty cut out which threw me on my face (happened as I tried to accelerate hard after upgrading pads.) Hope you don't have that happen.

so this or the s11?

I sold my s18 for a RSt cos it was pretty bad (or maybe not so good is a better descrip) for the type of mtb climbs I put it thru. A number of hills where my bud (weighs 70+lbs more) on his RSt smokes me, my s18 would literally give up 1/2 way up the climb. If this s18 SE can get close to the torque of the RSt, I wouldn't have sold it. Don't need range for em dirt fun stuff but torque, light weight & nimbleness are a must which the RSt have in spades. Comfort ie. suspension is a nice bonus as all

Fuuuuck meee ! Jimmy and Mario together is like the best PEV multivers crossover !! :-D You both guys are my Onewheel bible et I've watched aaaaall your videos before I get my OW XR last August. Everything I've puted on it, every gears I bought along belongs to your advises. Thanks for everything, I love you guys. Take care (and don't fall of course ;-P )

That thing is sick. Beginner friendly?

Max load 91kg? Not 120kg?

He’s your son? I just thought it was two young guys reviewing EUC

Wow!!! I'm gonna change my battery choice for the Master I ordered.

⚡🤙🏼🤙🏼⚡ *I'd rather a lower capacity battery than a bigger capacity battery with less "usable" range.*

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Balla!

Molicel packs are awesome. These packs will make the S18 revitalized and finally a decent wheel.