Yee-J don’t feel offended please, but you got the racing posture of Bowser in Mario kart and Tiny on Crash Team Racing.

One of these days you need to find your way to a convention where they have proper sim racing cockpits, your driving position is so cursed lmao

Why do people keep sending you wheels and not a cockpit to try?

Man has that karting drs hunch lol

R5 was my first direct drive wheel and had it around 18months now. Yes, the pedals arent great and would have gone higher within the Moza range had my budget allowed... HOWEVER, its a fantastic piece of kit. I have zero regrets in buying this and while I know my upgrade route from this point, i feel no reason to rush even 18 months down the line.

I’ve had the r5 for over a year now and it’s really good for the price, I don’t have the pedals though as I have the Thrustmaster t-lcm’s. You can also get a formula style wheel mod for the basic ES wheel. Agree completely with what you said, it’s a great starter wheelset for someone that has a little more budget to start with.

I bought the R5 bundle in Feb when it was on sale. I got the bundle plus the brake kit including shipping and tax for 520. I came to that decision after reading many stories about Fanatec's black friday nightmare and their customer service. I am sure Moza has its own troubles, but it seemed to be less. I only have a few hours on it, but now that my rig is done that should be shooting up here soon. My take away so far is that: 1 - Software is pretty good. Tons of adjustability, stable, UI looks very nice. Not sure what else to add here..... 2 - The wheel itself has a lot of power, it will be a minute before I feel the need to upgrade. I came from an old ass thrustmaster, you could not even get drivers for anymore. Details in the FF seem good but as this is my first DD I have no comparison so make of that what you will. Very solid feeling, well constructed, well machined parts and so far flawless. 3 - Pedals are very solid, and well made. I am glad that I got the brake kit. Stock spring were pretty wimpy and was hard to modulate the brakes consistently. Easy decision for 15 USD. 4 - Price was pretty great at the time, that is why I pulled the trigger. Although, pulling that trigger shot my bank account in the face after I realized I could not use it on my desk very well. That led to full sim rig, making button boxes, making spotter leds, buying a gaming TV, ambient lights......... After using simhub so much I am very glad I paid the guy who makes it. He deserves more. 5 - Desk mount is SUPER solid like you said. What little racing I did on my desktop, it never moved an inch. Unlike my older wheels that always came loose no matter what I did to secure it. BTW anyone looking to make a simrig, buy a seat out of a European car if you do not want to plunk down 3-400 dollars on a dedicated seat. Many of them have all the controls for adjustment but they are not power, at least on the passenger side. So you keep the adjustability. I managed to find a like new passenger side seat out of a Volvo V70 for 50 dollars out the door. I did have to remove it myself, but that is super easy if you have a socket set. Sorry I did not mean to give my own review, I got carried away. My intention was to corroborate your impressions of the wheel. Great video BTW, subscribed. Edit: Not sure what is going on with the formatting, sorry.

I find it very cute how much he leans into the corners and into the wheel everytime haha

I've had an R5 for about a year or so. Really awesome wheel. Works great for me on a desk set up.

I guess I _could_ skip the cockpit and get a DD wheel first. Looking at the Moza R12 just to get that extra buffer of FFB myself; great review! But... I'ma get the cockpit first because like I've only been sim racing with a wheel for two years, and really wanna get off the desk! I know it won't I prove actual performance and laptimes too much, but just to have a more streamlined setup(and cooler-looking setup), especially because I have the space is worth it to me! :D

As an avid user and supporter of Moza, great review. Only thing I have to input is, turn off the "Hands Off Protection". If you're wondering what a specific slider does in pithouse. I recommend turning the FFB gain and torque to 100%. Then try each slider individually at 0 and 100%. Once you have a clear understanding of what each slider does, you'll better understand how they work together too.

Solid review. Thorough. I dont think you missed much here. Fanatec is similar to Moza so you arent missing out on too much yet. Although i do prefer Fanatecs wheel selection a little more.

I may have missed it in the review. Did you set the force feedback in Moza’s software to the full 5.5 Nm or did you limit the output in any way and to what?

Also have a Moza R5 and love it. One of the biggest negatives to the wheel is if you prefer to run other sims such as Gran Turismo it does not have console support and only supports a limited number of PC titles

at the end of 2022 when I've jumped into sim racing, bought this bundle (with a NLR F-GT), and using it since. I really like it, gives the exact info what I need. maybe with a better pedal set (or with the break pedal extension) i could be better (after 17k laps now ~2k on oval), but not taking this whole thing so seriously. if someone wants a set what don't cost way too much, I could definitely suggest this.

I purchased the bundle as my first set after attempting a couple of time trials with a mouse and key board. What a difference. I am expanding to the H-shifter. I would like your thoughts on the clutch addition. I am concerned that the spacing between the pedals is too narrow.

I got an r9 because I figured I’d be upgrading the pedals anyway. Got the good Moza pedals and love it. I think it was closer to $700 all up though.

I got the r-9 bundle with the 13 inch wheel. Highly recommend with me as well. Went from a Logitech wheel to this and love it. Easy setup and not a long wait on shipping like other companies.

Love the posture

Yee! Dude, I love your content.. I just realized I wasn't subscribed! I'm surprised you don't have a rig brother? Can we start a rig donation fund for you? haha. The iracing iceberg is so good

I have been a wheel racer on and off for a decade. The r5 was my first DD where I thought it wasn't a waste of money if in only did a handful races a month. Not several months into ownership It has made me want to race more and I think will upgrade in the next few months. And If i didn't want to upgrade this would work very well for me for the continued future.

i got the moza r5 bundle about 2 months ago and i can tell u moza is the way to go. the build quality is amazing ive had almost zero issues with it. my 1 issue that i have had though is my r5 does tend to get hot after use (for example maybe 3 laps of the nurburgring it will start to get hot) though it generally stays under that 60C threshold (in my room) so i dont lose any FFB to my knowledge. i will say that the pedals do have to be used with the performance kit for any type of sim racing though id recommend just buying a set of the SRP pedals that are loadcell

Swear the best is the Fanatec CSL DD. Been running it for the last few months. The load cell pedal upgrade is AMAZING. Dropped $600ish on it altogether and it was well worth the $.

I love these reviews. I love that they’re not from some hardcore sim racer with a cockpit and triple monitor setup, but still from someone who is really good at it, but mannnn it’s hard to overlook that horrible posture😭😭😭 How do you not have insane back pain💀

Been thinking about getting a DD wheel like that Moza for a while but I really question the desk clamps for them, seems like they're just kinda made for Ikea desks with nothing underneath. I have a super old thick wood desk and the frame that holds the center drawer in place just gives barely enough room to fit my G29 with the drawer still in. Any clamps taller, deeper, etc. would probably conflict with the desk frame even if I removed the drawer. Decisions...

The best is the best because its better then the rest but is this the best? I'm guessing it's not the best but it's closer to the rest we need another wheelbase thats better then the rest! Haha

You gotta try the CSL DD (with a cheap, non-fanatec power supply). You’ll be amazed at the difference between 5 and 8nm.

Im on the moza r12 and its great. If you can aford it, take it. Im on a table too cause of space issue and never had a problem, exept my table making sound on heavy vibrations.

I knew it would be your favorite

The word is "Damping". Dampening is to make things wet.

(Before watching) I've been debating on buying this exact combo for MONTHS now.. Time to see what the opinions are!

2:30 and if You take off rim (quick release, takes no more than 5 seconds), that footprint becomes even smaller. R5 is a good bundle when Your old wheel dies 2 weeks before important must participate race and You don't have big budget. I broke my CSW 1.5 after ~10 years of heavy usage while performing biannual cleaning maintenance. I had choice between Fanatec and this bundle. Hard choice between 2 good options. Wheel feels different to CSW and I didn't got slower. I like quick release better in R5. But F1 rim on Fanatec had best button layout for handbrake. I am still struggling with R5 and that is my main complaint. Flex in paddle shifters aren't great, but ok. Haven't tried Moza pedals, kept my CSL LC pedals. And in choice between R5 bundle or my old wheel working + 500 Eur in my account, I would choose later :)

I know my opinion as random guy on the internet isn't worth a great deal but I've been very happy with my R12, which I use with the GS V2P and CS V2P wheels and modded T-LCM pedals. If Moza ever releases pedals with a hydraulic brake, I will be very tempted. I don't think the R12 will ever leave me wanting for more torque and the wheels feel great in the hands. My father in law has the R5 bundle and uses it with the TSW truck wheel, also a great piece of kit. I'd definitely recommend Moza hardware to anyone.

You should try the thrustmaster tmx pro

You’ve convinced me. I’m about to order an R12.

I went from a G25 to a Moza R5 and it's brilliant.

Had G24, G27 and then upgraded to R5 bundle. Moza R5 is worth the slightly higer price. I've since upgraded to R12 base but still use the wheel from R5 bundle..

id love to get a moza wheel but im broke

i have a moza r5 and i think it is a great option for anyone looking to upgrade off something like a logitech g920

i know its really random, but what desk do you have? ive been looking at L shaped desks but never been able to find any that are a decent size

Because you mentioned being a Counter-Strike enjoyer, it pains me to see someone not using some of the new affordable analog keyboards (e.g. SteelSeries Apex TKL 2023, Razer Huntsman V2) or the more expensive options (Wooting). These modern 0.1mm actuation analog keyboards are just 10-20x better than any mechanical keyboard with nice switches in CS2.

l also play other games like Call of Duty using a mouse and keyboard while my G29 and shifter are on my desk

I gotta ask: do you drive a regular car all up on the wheel too?

I’m having a hard time getting pit house on my PC

Highly recommend the R5 Bundle. Pedals aren’t great but serviceable

Check out the Simsonn pedals. They basically copied heusinkveld but sell them for 1/5 the price with load cells.

Be careful! My r5 broke yesterday the usb port on the back that connects to your pc just fell out while I was playing! The center white piece just snapped and got stuck in the wire and wire just fell out hitting me in my leg!

Maybe the Fanatec Rebel Alliance will send you a CSL DD 😂

you previously reviewed the Cammus C5, but should I buy the R5 or the C5? It's a desk racer with the same clamp as you…

Edit: As for Moza as a beginner wheel . . . yep, Prices have come down so much in th elast 3-4 years I believe. Enough now to allow newbies to swing their dollar over to a DD wheel bundle as a starter kit, just like that R5 bundle you reviewed here. Players can't go wrong and I know other experienced players have echoed your thoughts on the need for good pedals as they are the most important part of the kit. I use a different Dd wheel but in the end they are all going to give a better simulation and that's a good thing. By being biased toward companies that give you free stuff you're meaning you're just like any other human on the planet and is exactly why I won't watch KZfaqrs who try to tell us they are about to give us an honest and fair review of presents from companies looking for free and positive advertising. Sick of hearing it - sick of the 'unbiased reviews". Free units can be onsold and money put in pocket so no payment, Hmm? I would argue that point. Then there's one utuber I was viewing lately who told me/us right at the end of the video that the gear he just gave a "fair and unbiased review" of, was given to him. That is so disingenuous and an even worse con imo. Keep on racing mate.

When I get to the point where I can up grade I think I would go with the fanatec csl dd w/the GT wheel. Nothing against moza. I think fanatec has better upgrade options

I don't know why you guys complain about Yee-J seating position. I do also drive in a shrimp position :)

As if a company not sending you free stuff is any indication that there's something shady going on behind the scenes. Though for Fanatec, there is something shady going on behind the scenes.

I've had nothing but quality assurance issues with Moza, my R5 has inconsistent ffb, the wheel's shifter paddles broke, and when I replaced them with the fancy frs wheel both of the ones they've sent have broken. It's just not worth the money, save for a fanatec.

I read they overheat!? This is making hard for me to decide :/

I’ll save you some time right now. R5 wheel and base with TLCM pedals. You’re welcome.

My only problem with Moza is that their shipping is outrageous

so whats the point to switch between r5-t9 or r12?

Kinda. The pedals go in the trash, a pedalset with a loadcell brakepedal is minimum to be competative. I do love mine, its great.

what about M/K setup?

fanatec dd $399 pedals wheel 5nm dd

Its almost $500 tho 😭

there is no best option just options that are very close to each other.

saying budget is crazy when its almost 1k

type stuff

I really don't like the wheel face, looks extremely cheap and like something from ps2 era

r5 is the best for the $

dude just forgot that simagic exists and is better than anything he listed

I really hope you don't drive cars irl in that sitting position cause goddamn that's awful.

Bro needs a rig so bad. The posture.. just… ughhhhh…🤮

R5 is for under 13s no thanks