The L322 I have ... 4.4L TDV8 Vogue SE has all the double glaze glass .... double sun visors ... etc. etc.

Thanks for watching!

Do it, we need a video!

Maybe this is your sign to go for it! 👀 I’d love to drive the 5.0 petrol, only ever driven diesel RR’s!

Keyless entry :|

Had the same issue when I was renewing my 4.2 sc 2006 l322, NFU refused it claiming there stolen, I explained it needs a key as it pre dates keyless but they just seen range rovers as a general not allowing for older l322s vs later ones and 405s

I have a 405 V8 Autobiography and pay £500 with Tesco so you must be adding some serious risk measures somewhere

Good vid lucy, looking into upgrading my l322. I still think the l322 looks a prettier car though 🤔

The diesel turbo issues are overinflated they do happen but if you floor it from time to time to get the spinning nice and fast they last much longer.

Yup. My V8/5.0/SC absolutely plants me back in my seat. And it's a LWB and to see that big of a vehicle get up and go like that is pretty astonishing.

True- that might be the best to both!

@@LucyOnCars I’m biased as I have one but, yes, I think it is :) There’s also the active suspension fitted a standard - would be interesting for you to do a comparison as a follow up video perhaps? 2012 Autobiography with the same engine and box versus L405?

Didn’t the last of the L322 have a TDV8 that was the 4.4. However it was just as powerful as the SDV8.

@@hughmarcus1 Yes, the “4.4 TDV8” is the same engine as the SDV8, they just renamed it. Same gearbox too. There were some changes in the SDV8 in terms of layout of the DPF and I believe later ones had AdBlue that was never fitted on the L322, but essentially it’s the exact same engine and box.

Boy does it shift !!! I also have a T5 XC70 Volvo and the L322 4.4 TDV8 is not far behind it ....

Interesting!

so which one would you recomend and prefer, as an advice of an experienced driver of both models?

@@savamirkovic339 L405 SDV8.

not so bad on the Euro 6 post 2015 (late) models

They did. This is only the most expensive diesel.

Yes they did. I believe there’s 2 variants of the 5.0 petrol V8. One of course being the SVR unit.

@@tyronemessiah4479 Not exactly. The supercharged version, even in the SVA, was not the same as the SVR, it was a lower state of tune.

@@simonuden8450 thanks for the correction, yes I meant SVA. And you are right there are three petrol variants of the 5.0L V8. One being naturally aspirated / non supercharged, the other two are supercharged (510ps) and the (550ps) for the SVA. There have been revisions to these units over the years to increase power & torque (raising the power outputs to 525ps & 565ps respectively). Lucy meant the 4.4 diesel V8 is the largest and most powerful diesel version. We are just being pedants :)

Yes they do I have l494 5.0L supercharged In Europe gasoline is more expensive than us so they probably use diesel cars 🙏🏻👍🏻

And also a mild hybrid with the v6 diesel. Also if I'm not mistaken, there might be some markets that could get it with a 2.0 diesel

That’s a good way to put it! I get into this in the comparison video that will be live on the channel soon.

I went to l405 from l322 tdv8, the l405 is far better in every way the l322 is very dated

😮😮😮 how did I not know this?!

@@LucyOnCars Better borrow it again! 🤣

Never tried but would love to! Seems to tick all the right boxes.

Horses for courses, I suppose. If you're heavily invested in an L322, I guess you're going to prefer it, but we've had two in the past, and I think the L405 is considerably better looking. We don't have one, but have a RRS SVR - the later version with the faclifted lights and the 575 hp engine, and it still annoys me that the roofline can impede on rear visibility, which the full fat Range Rover's roof does not.

many incl Clarkson regard all versions after the L322 to be not true Range Rover .... they are more 'street vehicles' .... despite the sales hype.

@@solentlifeuk and people probably said the same thing about the L322 when it came out. They certainly took the piss out of the 'slab sided', 'transit like', 'over luxurious' Discovery 3 when it came out and it is now one of the most respected off road base vehicles out there.

@@LucyOnCars You're welcome to have a go in mine

Troll. Why do you idiots think that just because you've read it or seen it in social media, it must be true? Most genuine owners know the real truth behind these rumours, and the fact that most modern, luxury cars, with high technology, cost a lot to repair. I'd much rather spend my money repairing a Land Rover than something awful like a BMW or a Mercedes or, even worse, be seen driving around in something as low-brow as a Toyota.

Depends what you want to do with it ... if you want to be chased down the motorway - 5.0L petrol ... if you want to tow / work with huge torque - then the 4.4L TDV8

Have

The owner has probably deleted the TDV8 badge too, and the Land Rover badge with the black background is reserved for the supercharged models, so they've changed that too. Obviously embarrassed about having an oil burner (not that I'm suggesting there's anything wrong with having a diesel).

Autobiography’s got the black LR badges front and rear and none of the L405’s have any engine related badges only trim badging of “VOGUE” “VOUGE SE” and “AUTOBIOGRAPHY” 😎

@@RATTLER238 I can't argue with that, as I'm no longer a keen follower, but one has to wonder why, after all this time, LR would change that. They have a habit, though, of making things model specific for a brief time, like the blue that the original RRS SVR came in, which is now available on just about any model of any type of LR.

Same type of gear selector is used by Jaguar I had one on my 2014 XKR and on my wife’s 2022 E Pace 😊

Agreed, drug dealer vibes 😂

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Yeah but JLR will give you a nice new courtesy car! Usually an F-Pace unless you make an entitled fuss about like-4-like!

@@philiphudgens4726 😁

But the monthly fuel bill will make you wince

Yep - I was referring to this being the top diesel engine 👍 Hope to drive the 5.0 petrol one day!

I'd have to disagree there. I've owned two RRS SVRs and they are totally pointless in the UK. Yes, they make a lovely sound, but getting to the national speed limit in a matter of a few seconds, becomes tiresome after a while, especially if you spend a lot of time in town. Yes, you can take them on a track day, but that invalidates most insurance policies, and would you really want to risk your daily driver if you should be unlucky enough to make a mistake? My second car is a Discovery 4, with the later SDV6 3.0 diesel engine in it, and it can show a clean set of tyres to a lot of rep mobiles (once you've passed the turbo lag, of course). When you look at second hand L405 Range Rovers, it's interesting how many have the SDV6 - it was very popular.

For me ... when at beginning of the year - looking at RR's .... being an ex real Land Rover owner (series 2 and 3's) ... I wanted a real RR ... not a street machine. That threw Velor / Evoque / Sport etc into the bin straight away ... so left me with 322 .. 405 ... 460 .... The 460 is too much money for me at present (I just bought another boat etc.) The 405 did not offer me anything above the 322 I was offered. Except a lot more price !. I plumped for a 2011-2012 one of the last 322 4.4L TDV8 Vogue SE ... with full toys .... video headests, full 360 cameras, adaptive cruise, 8 speed box, flappy paddles, etc. The only real difference of this to a FULL Autobiography - is that I have the full cream leather interior. The 405 in this video is LESS than my VOGUE SE in fact ! Of course later I will buy a later version RR ... but I hope that JLR go back to producing real Range Rovers and not the latest Girly Street machines they have now.

Great content as always lucy

Personally, I have a 4.4 TDV8 L322 and love it, but I'd be very happy to have one with an electric motor. The 4x4 capabilities with a wheel in each corner would be truly epic, plus it'll be quiet and refined like a RR should be!

I think you'll find Land Rover moved away from the old 'Green Laning' heritage with the. P38, arguably, but all of them, right the way up to the L605 have excellent off-roading capability. The one problem that people who have used them in such a way have found is that the wide, low profile tyres, with their large contact areas for good road holding, are absolutely useless on wet grass and some other surfaces. And the huge brake discs they have to fit to deal with the huge speeds they can do now, mean that choice of wheel size is limited, and therefore choice of tyre. And finally, I thought it was only Jaguar who had made the mistake of declaring for full electric. JLR would hardly have invested in the Ingenium range of engines if it wasn't going to use them in its Land Rover products beyond 2025. And, by the way, the P300e and P400e models, which have been around for some time now, already have electric motors in them, and small batteries. They're mild hybrids.

@@simonuden8450 There are quite a few L322's that go onto off road courses and green lane. Plenty in Suffolk and Norfolk anyway!! The ingenium engine have their issues and especially the 2.0 Diesel which you get in Evoque and Discovery. A friend used to work at a Land Rover specialist and he told me that they had a good few that came through the workshop for normal service and would leave sounding like a bag of marbles rattling around inside the engine. All oils and filters were in Land Rover boxes and bottles. He refused to work on them know and also so has his previous employer. You'll see on the internet the issue with timing chain and camshaft gear etc. The 2.2 diesel engine is the one to have. Much better engine.

@@JamesAllen300 Yes, not disagreeing. And we took our P38 off-road when it was only 3 years old. It’s really about being able to put suitable tyres on them.

Actually private estate 😂

They're amazing engines. I don't think there is a diesel so big, fast yet so good on fuel than this one.

@@warrengeew SQ7 TDI has a better engine, and is better on fuel.

Follow through with a pic of the damage..

Certainly I’ll go do it again.

Are you sure you didn’t follow through😂😂😂