Is the RTX 4090 OverRated | RTX 4080 vs RTX 4090
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Күн бұрынToday we discuss if the RTX 4090 is overrated or not. We compare gaming performance to the RTX 4080 Gigabyte Aero OC with the PNY RTX 4090 XLR8.
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🎬Chapters
🕒 0:00 - RTX 4090 is Overrated
🕒 1:55 - Why the PNY RTX 4090 XLR8
🕒 2:42 - PNY RTX 4090 XLR8 Vertical Mount Lancool 3
🕒 3:02 - PNY RTX 4090 XLR8 Backplate
🕒 3:23 - PNY 4090 Power Draw 450w TDP
🕒 4:21 - PNY RTX 4090 XLR8 Dimensions
🕒 5:03 - PNY RTX 4090 XLR8 Coil Whine
🕒 5:42 - Optimum Tech GPU Coil Whine? Try This.
🕒 5:57 - RTX 4090 COD MW2 Benchmark Thermals
🕒 7:37 - Why use a FPS limit
🕒 8:05 - PC Hardware Used for Testing
🕒 8:33 - OBS Impacts FPS and GPU Performance
🕒 9:00 - Assassins Creed Valhalla 4K RTX 4090 vs RTX 4080
🕒 10:00 - God of War 2018 4K RTX 4090 vs RTX 4080
🕒 11:16 - Halo Infinite 4K RTX 4090 vs RTX 4080
🕒 12:29 - Spider-Man Remastered 4K RTX 4090 vs RTX 4080
🕒 13:47 - Is The RTX 4090 Overrated
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@ErockOnTech 10 ай бұрын
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@FIVESTRZ 10 ай бұрын
Random Q, what camera do you use? I am looking to create more talking head videos and currently using the iPhone 14 Pro and a gimbal.
@shaggymanson5375 10 ай бұрын
Any 4090 is going to be amazing...... taking advice from somone who as only owned/tested one and is poiably still in the honeymoon stage is not a great idea. For most products anyway unless you are benchmarking i dont think the different clock speeds matter much. Just the coolers, build quality and aftermarket support (i.e. driver support, customer support and return policys)
@FIVESTRZ 10 ай бұрын
@@shaggymanson5375 if you plan on overclocking power delivery matter and power limit matters as well but at stock, like you said just about all 4090s are within margin of error and have overbuilt coolers
@ErockOnTech 8 ай бұрын
@@FIVESTRZ I’m sorry. I just saw this. I use the Cannon M200. I record in 1080p 60 and I render out at 4K 60.
@FIVESTRZ 8 ай бұрын
@@ErockOnTech it looks really good to me honest. Thought it was more along the lines of a 4K
@sinhnguyen8135 10 ай бұрын
I bought the 4090 when it first came out. I just thought that it would of been ridiculous if I bought the 4080 when I can spend a few hundreds more to get 4090. If I was willing the spend that much for 4080, might as well go for the best.
@Z4d0k 10 ай бұрын
Makes sense if that’s the price difference. When I went to buy a GPU in Australia a few months ago the 4090 Suprim X cost $825 USD more than the Suprim X 4080 (65% more expensive). For someone that games at 1440p ultrawide, I couldn’t justify the extra cost.
@OcihEvE 10 ай бұрын
I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't agree with this. I own a 7900XTX and when I bought it, the gap between 7900XT and 7900XTX was as little as $40 Canadian. In terms of making choices easy and hard, the US has it much more difficult than I did as a Canadian. On that note, the choice between the 7900XTX and the 4090 was easy as well. The 4090 was and is $1000 cad more than the 7900XTX. That choice kind of like the XT to XTX was a no brainer, just using reverse logic. If I compare the 7900XTX with a 4080, the choice gets foggy. It's around $200 more for a 4080. I could have convinced myself to buy a 4080. The only thing that upset the apple cart for nVidia was the 24GB of VRam on the 7900XTX. In the end I accept that I got drunk on the kool-aid. 7900XTX is a flex buy. I play on a 1440, 144hz 32" monitor and I did not need a 24GB 7900XTX. Feels good to test stuff like American Truck Sim and Way of the Hunter and actually be able to play them at 8K 70-80fps but that is flex. The 4090 is also flex. It's the king of flex. Bad games will still suck, good games will still be fun. On a 3060, 6600, 7900, 4090.
@sinhnguyen8135 10 ай бұрын
@@OcihEvE the funny thing is, when the 4080 came out. I thought it was such a bad strategy by nvidia with the pricing of the 4080. Amd came out after with the 7900xt and Xtx and made the same mistake with the pricing. I couldn’t believe amd did the same stupid thing with their price strategy (I think AMD price gap was even closer if I remember right. 100 vs 300 at release). I think you did the right thing with getting the 7900xtx. The price gap was too close to pick the XT.
@x8jason8x 10 ай бұрын
That's exactly what nVidia wanted.
@bosneb 10 ай бұрын
I went with the 4080 to get the 16gb vram and I don't want a 450w+ card.
@1SaG 10 ай бұрын
Looking at the specs and the card's performance, it's definitely not overrated. It's just overpriced.
@tak2ulata 10 ай бұрын
People who say this are retarded because there has never been a time where price wasn’t a part of the equation. If something cost too much, then it’s overrated just because the thing works doesn’t change that!
@gauravnegi6857 10 ай бұрын
Any card is good if priced right tho.
@1SaG 10 ай бұрын
@@gauravnegi6857 Not really. I wouldn't want and couldn't use anything sub-xx60 from NVidia even if they sold it for 10 bucks.
@blueboy3990 9 ай бұрын
@@1SaG nah you're lying you'll get a 9$ 3050
@blueboy3990 9 ай бұрын
"There are no bad gpus, there are badly priced gpus" -Master Oogway
@monopolus 9 ай бұрын
Hey, just wanted to ask about how you covered up the stickers on the fan side of the card? Thinking about getting a PNY 4080 or 4090 and wanted to know.
@davehenderson6896 7 ай бұрын
I got the 4090 to future proof my PC, with 24G it should still be good after 5 years.
@SwissOliver 8 ай бұрын
hi nice review. What's the utlity called that you use on the top left? that's not from Nvidia, right?
@artyboy1377 9 ай бұрын
I had originally wanted the 4080 until friends told me that the 4090 is better at a price to performance ratio. I didnt regret it and i think the extra cost was worth it. Part of the justification is the fact that this is the first Titan class GPU I have ever owned in my decades of PC gaming.
@brunoutechkaheeros1182 9 ай бұрын
interesting... it will also be my first Titan class GPU... but it is also my first ever GPU 😊
@sonic-th966 8 ай бұрын
The 4080 costs 1280€ The 4090 at least 1850€ How is the performance price ratio better?
@artyboy1377 8 ай бұрын
It's based on higher framrates especially with ray-tracing enabled. It's basically down to CUDA cores : the 4090 has 16,384 while the 4080 has 9,728.
@sonic-th966 8 ай бұрын
@@artyboy1377 ok ty for your answer. I think I will go with the 4090.
@BroderickNorthmoor 7 ай бұрын
@@sonic-th966 price to performance is actually similar for both cards if you consider their prices AFAIK 33% more for 33% increase increase in performance. You should never only consider only card prices. Lets say your build costs 2600$ with the 4080 and 3000$ with the 4090. Now its a 15% addition in price for a 33% increase in performance. Edit: Unless and it goes without saying you have set aside a budget for yourself.
@NeverenCH 8 ай бұрын
Great Video thanks :) I happen to own a PNY 4070 Ti and wanted to ask how you covered up the red fan Stickers ?
@eXeDenko 10 ай бұрын
Pretty much in agreement with everything you said, regardless of whether or not there's any coil whine I'm all for limiting frames, no point in using extra electricity and getting higher temperatures when you're not really benefiting from it.
@spooksy1982 9 ай бұрын
There's no 'bad' 4090. Your PNY one will be fine at stock settings. Where you would have problems is with overclocking - the VRM implementation is inferior / cut down when compared to some of the higher end models. To summarise, so long as you are running stock settings you will notice no difference whichever 4090 you use. It's all in the overclocking potential which isn't really worth while anyway. I have an ASUS one which does have the full 600w capability but I don't plan on overclocking. I've never seen it draw more than about 350-375W.
@El_SamB 6 ай бұрын
Follow Jesus Christ
@sasquatchcrew 6 ай бұрын
my 7900xtx stock with power slider maxed out consumes 475-520 watts :o crazy
@rambosausage8881 10 ай бұрын
Confused at how anyone could say the 4090 is overated, it literally has no competition, if the other gpu manufacturers had something to compete with it you could say its overpriced and over rated....but when its in a league of its own performance wise you dont really have a point.
@Yesyesanything 16 күн бұрын
True.
@Bobbylopezcreative 8 ай бұрын
How do you show the stats on the upper left side like that?
@warrenlee6847 7 ай бұрын
What is your opinion on the different cards in laptops?
@TheBurtle005 8 ай бұрын
Whats the model number on your pc case?
@marcosvega3464 9 ай бұрын
looking to upgrade my cpu i-7 12600k and mobo msi mpg z690 edge wifi ddr4 to and am5 socket what do you recommend with my rtx4080 msi card gaming x trio
@Tharga22 9 ай бұрын
I bought the 4090 MSI Suprim x and it had a coil whine for 3-4 weeks and ran quietly afterward. Still working after 4 months.
@itzjustkris7964 6 ай бұрын
how did you cover the red on the fans?
@gamepro94z 8 ай бұрын
I got rid of my coil whine with a 1200w power supply. When you have a lot of overhead it seems to kill the coil whine I've noticed and I haven't seen a lot of people talking about that fact they just suggest an under-volt and a FPS cap instead.
@El_SamB 6 ай бұрын
Follow Jesus Christ
@ravipeiris4388 10 ай бұрын
Good on you brother. I'm glad that you are not getting stuck on the weeds (i.e. brand purchase, type, etc.) and are focusing on the larger picture of.....actually owning and testing the 4090.
@PilotAsp 20 күн бұрын
Inwas thinking of getting this same gpu but i hate the red logo on the fan. Inwas wondering how did u cover up the logos
@ErockOnTech 20 күн бұрын
I hated it also. Black circular stickers.
@havelard 10 ай бұрын
Overated? No. Overpriced? Absolutely. Overkill? Damn right
@doctorno3912 10 ай бұрын
Oh does that pny card come with a gpu support bracket/stand?
@steveklem2435 10 ай бұрын
That card sitting vertically in there looks so dope, red or white X I think that would look sweeet but I’m not too too particular when it comes to my rgb lights matching lmao as long as they work and I have the ability to change it I’m happy that looks sick man solid work!!
@hellionsmith 2 ай бұрын
Went from a 1080Ti to a 4090, it is insane how long the 1080ti lasted though
@pedroduran8927 10 ай бұрын
I got that PNY one but 4080, and it has been a fantastic card, i love the rgb detail on it! Going from a 1660 Ti it was a HUGE boost of performance
@FIVESTRZ 10 ай бұрын
You went from a car, to a rocket ship 🚀
@Canadian.Reacts 9 ай бұрын
@@FIVESTRZbro went from walking to flying
@FIVESTRZ 9 ай бұрын
@@Canadian.Reacts right! Love to see it
@joel3683 8 ай бұрын
I wanna join you too in the sky lol, I currenty have a mini zotac 1060 6gb in a hp workstation, It's serviceable and respectable for only being a $300 build but not even close to what I want now, I'm trying to go for 1440p 120+ frames on max settings now, overhauling even my keyboard to a whooting and my LG 1080p 144hz monitor to the new LG oled 1440p 240hz, It's gonna be awesome but I'm currently saving up to snag the 4080 maybe in the used market as I won't have to spend close to $1200 on it brand new Just curious to see how you guys would go about building the PC, I still need a MOBO, CPU, RAM, CASE and the monitor but I'd get it after I build the PC what would you guys get first and why?
@born2serve92 6 ай бұрын
Joel, the 4070ti is a sub 1000k and pulls over 100 fps in 1440p. It's about 18-22 frames lower than a 4080, but would you notice if you're already at 130? VRAM issues I can't really speak on. Personally, I did my build with a microcenter deal with a 7700x, asRock board and tossed in a 4070ti. AM5 and the AMD 7000 is amazing for the price and the X3D model is the best gaming CPU at the moment.@@joel3683
@ManishDura 2 ай бұрын
can i ask , do the 4090s or just any gpu have differences in performance when they are different models or are all gpus the same despite them being different models and having price differences.
@ErockOnTech 2 ай бұрын
Great question! So it’s basically a limited range of performance differences. Essentially, all 4090s are 4090s for example. So they all have a base level of performance they will hit. From there, different models have 3 ways they can be different. This includes looks, out of the box clock speeds, and their cooling solution. Looks are just looks and have no impact on performance. Out of the box clock speeds can make a small difference in performance. Ideally, the higher the clock speed, the more fps you get. The biggest difference is the cooler. Different cards are colder than others. Also, the cooler can impact noise levels as well. But mostly, all GPUs are within a certain range of each other. Look up 4090 roundup or 4070 roundup here on KZfaq. You’ll see how small the differences are between GPUs.
@gamer_489 10 ай бұрын
I'm encountering an unusual problem while gaming. Despite disabling notifications, I'm hearing the notification sound randomly. Strangely, when this happens, if I press any movement key like W, A, S, or D and then remove my finger from the button, my character continues to move on its own. How can I troubleshoot and resolve this perplexing issue?
@fin4658 10 ай бұрын
Wow that's quite a unique issue, to me it sounds like some USB controller issue, have you tried unplugging every other connection but the keyboard?
@gamer_489 10 ай бұрын
@@fin4658 I tried.
@Acconda 10 ай бұрын
I am most Likely going 4090 soon, love to see your thoughts on it with 21:9 :) I would consider going 4K from a 3440x1440p screen, however I can't see any 4k monitors that are around 27 "to 32" with OLED ? I don't want to go 42" or above as the PPI just becomes the same as a 34" 21:9 screen, so little point,
@Dr_Angry 10 ай бұрын
I never go past 32" as that seems to be the max size to quality from what I've seen personally
@iana8030 26 күн бұрын
I have the PNY model. If you don't plan on overclocking it is a fantastic card. With how fast it is you wont need to overclock it. It is like 1.5 console generations ahead.
@KenpachiAjax 10 ай бұрын
Most people complaining about 4090 don't even have 4090 or even an expensive card. 4090 has no competition in the market. Its a premium card with premium price tag. Can't afford it, don't cry about it.
@pondracek 10 ай бұрын
To add to this: you don't buy a 4090 for 1080p (or even 4k) gaming. It's genuinely difficult to not be CPU bottlenecked above a 4080/7900XTX on basically any monitor. You buy one because you can, because of VR, or because you update less frequently (the 5080 isn't likely to exceed its performance, and I don't think a 5090 is going to give much more than a 30% uplift).
@O_Shag_Hennessy 10 ай бұрын
Was that one of the GA locations for Microcenter?
@ErockOnTech 10 ай бұрын
Yes, the Marietta location.
@scipher99 10 ай бұрын
How dare you spend your money the way you want. Enjoy! Edit: If you ever want to change the color, just use vinyl wrap as you won't be limited to just solid colors. Plus, a wrap won't void your warranty.
@HadesOGK 7 ай бұрын
How did you cover up the red accents on the fans
@mmaroox 9 ай бұрын
Can you show UV settings?
@ameschie 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for working so hard on this video!!
@ErockOnTech 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for appreciating my work.
@manleycreations6466 10 ай бұрын
It would have been nice to see a cost per frame or cost per watt comparison. I don't think it's a secret that the RTX 4090 is a better card but (as a consumer) it's nice to know if the additional money invested will be worth the additional money spent versus a lower cost option.
@x8jason8x 10 ай бұрын
There's no real benefit to that, he's not testing a range of 4080 and 4090 cards. If you want those numbers, they're widely available all over the internet, on places like tech power up. I can save you some time and tell you you'll be screwed trying to get a per watt cost, that varies by location, unless you're specifically interested Erock's power bill for some reason? Would be weird, but I've seen weirder on the internet. 😂
@blueboy3990 9 ай бұрын
It has 30 more fps for 400$ more
@x8jason8x 9 ай бұрын
@@blueboy3990 That isn't even close to being accurate.
@Adri9570 9 ай бұрын
4080 * 1. 36 = 4090 since the 4090 is a 36% performance increment over the 4080 Multiply the price of the 4080 by 1.36. If the result is lower than 4090's price, then the cost per frame of the 4090 is worse and that difference is just paying for no performance.
@woofy681 10 ай бұрын
Hey , can somebody just should i buy rtx 3060 or 4060 both are in my budget I'm building a new pc and I'm confused as helll i dont know should i go with rtx 4060 or rtx 3060
@condorX2 4 ай бұрын
Very nice video. I recently upgraded to a gaming laptop with 4060 for 700 bucks on Cyber Monday. I play on medium settings at 1080p, capped fps at 60 with DLSS and Frame Gen enabled. The interesting I learned is that ultra and medium look the same if you compare the videos side by side.
@Krenisphia 10 ай бұрын
I was originally going to buy a 4080, but the 4090 launched first and seeing them selling out quickly prompted me to grab one instead. Everything you said in this video I completely agree with. Really glad I went for it instead of the 4080 in the end.
@filippetrovic845 9 ай бұрын
Its shame how little we get for 60% CUDA increase.
@plasmahvh 9 ай бұрын
@@filippetrovic845 cpu bottlenecked wait for new gen of cpus
@blastofo 6 ай бұрын
Thats like saying you're really glad you bought a Mercedes instead of a Toyota. The 4090 is double the price. Over a thousand dollars more. But you talk about it like you're glad you chose a Chevy over a Ford.
@Krenisphia 6 ай бұрын
@@blastofo Yes, I am very glad. Had I bought anything else instead I would have regretted it.
@El_SamB 6 ай бұрын
Follow Jesus Christ
@nossy232323 10 ай бұрын
Glad my MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM X has zero coil whine. Best card I have ever owned, the performance is spectacular! (upgraded from a GTX 1080, insane upgrade!)
@michaelpatrick6984 6 ай бұрын
My 3090 had awful coil whine for a couple of weeks. It was driving me insane, but then it just went away. I liked your solution. In a few weeks I would try to remove undervolting and see if the coil whine is still there. It may just be gone.
@jemborg 10 ай бұрын
Hey Erock, I can't tell you how happy I am to see you review this particular PNY card mate... because naturally _I'd bought one too._ Lol. 😂👍👍👍
@RobbyWonder 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video man! The PNY 4090 honestly is amazing! I think that the others just don’t justify the higher cost for only 1-3% difference in performance! I think the important thing is here is that it can perform as well as it does with lower temps and it’s quiet! Also backed by a LONG warranty! Yea, I’d say PNY kills it with this! What are you using to undervolt? Thanks man!
@mv223 7 ай бұрын
1-3% difference?
@aerrae5608 5 ай бұрын
@@mv223 All those pre overclocked big brand name GPU's that cost 300 dollars more? You don't get much for it. Just overlock a cheaper card, it's not hard.
@HighValueBum 4 ай бұрын
going to finaly build a new pc as the one i have has a 980, going to hold on and see if they anouce the 500 series by the end of this year or early next year
@victor6010 19 күн бұрын
8:27 can I actually use a 850W PSU with the PNY 4090?
@ErockOnTech 19 күн бұрын
Yes you can.
@victor6010 19 күн бұрын
@@ErockOnTech thx
@e-TheWatchman 9 ай бұрын
Basically when I had observed the gpu a year and a half ago I was convinced to purchase the 90 for being over half performance increase compared to the 3090. As im on the same situation regarding fps for a tv when capable I may consider a potential 240 fps monitor
@__-fi6xg 10 ай бұрын
Thats a cool PC case, can you tell me what its called?
@movstercrew271 8 ай бұрын
So I seen some guy selling a 4080 for 800 locally nothing wrong with it he just upgraded to the 4090 would it really be worth it spending 600 to 700 more just to get one?
@dickdyson3100 10 ай бұрын
I am happy rocking my EVGA 208oti. It has 11.2GB and memory overclocks well. Lower the GPU volts and overclocks @ 1980mhz and she only draws 280 watts. No burnt pins, no worries about mining when I bought it for 300 bucks used. Replaced thermal paste and I game in ultra wide only.
@mv223 7 ай бұрын
Ultrawide is the only way to go. I'll never do anything else. Recently upgraded to an LG Ultragear 46 inch oled 3440x1440p curved. It's so beautiful. Tuf 4090/5800x3d
@DocHoliday586 9 ай бұрын
I'm getting ready to do a Lian-Li A4-420 mini ITX 11L case build.. the smallest 4090 I found for these small cases was the Asus TUF 4090 OC.. at 325mm. Its the best option outside of the FE and Suprim Liquid X. If you happen to be doing a small build.
@Juice_VI 10 ай бұрын
How did you sell your 4080? Was it local? I’m in Georgia as well and may be looking to sell my 6800. Need a safe and reliable way.
@Th3Fly1ngCow 10 ай бұрын
Yeah it was local Facebook marketplace
@joeatwork77 10 ай бұрын
Another great video, much obliged! I've got the 3080 (for below msrp) and will hold out for the 50 series cards (or even hope that AMD/Intel can start competing at the high end)... ...tbh, the 3080's are a solid card, my only real complaint is the low memory. Newer games run fine, but I do have to tweak settings to work around the gpu memory constraints 😕
@ErockOnTech 10 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏 Yes, the 3080 is still a solid card. Most 30 series owners should skip 40 series and wait for 50 series.
@joeatwork77 10 ай бұрын
@@ErockOnTech absolutely I'm going the pattern goes back to 10 series pricing
@acawn62 10 ай бұрын
I have a 2080 super, can’t decide which gpu to get, looking to upgrade for Starfield
@DETERMINOLOGY 10 ай бұрын
Its like this, I had a 4070 Ti which the 4080 is slightly a bit better for 400$ more, On the other hand the grunt power of the 4090 is insane and its in a world of its own and in some games the diff between the two in fps is shown. I know people that actually had a 4080 and switched to a 4090 so that should tell you something With the way games are not as greatly optimized, SH is making MW3 and i hear vanguard wasn't the best optimized wither. Ya the 4090 is where its at. I have 0 complaints with it and its like the gpu gets bored @ times with the games im playing lol the 4090 is extremely powerful as you prob know
@Jake-oz8ln 10 күн бұрын
Any word on the melting issues? Is it blown out of proportion or should i be nervous getting a 4090?
@lconthebeat 5 ай бұрын
I love graphics card reviews that arent sponsored by graphics card companies
@byproduct8849 10 ай бұрын
what would happen if you restrict both cards to 150w ? i play at 1440p with my 4070ti. i never go above 100w in any game... while having 70-90 fps most of the games... not cyberpunkt and heavy path traced games of course
@vielumiereg9794 8 ай бұрын
Lol, that picture of you in the parking lot, I used to work at that very Microcenter many years ago
@Pumpyaa 7 ай бұрын
Great video, bro and great work. Thank you 👍
@surfx4804 10 ай бұрын
That's what I do with my 4090 as I too have an LG 4k OLED TV that tops out at 120Hz. The 4080 is good but the 4090 has a lot more headroom. I am sure you can still have amazing experiences down at 1440p rather than 4k. Below the 4080 you should look at the 7900 xt.
@Dr_Angry 10 ай бұрын
Hell even with 4080 depending on what your using it for I'd say go 7900 xtx before the 4080
@DETERMINOLOGY 10 ай бұрын
"he 4080 is good but the 4090 has a lot more headroom" Exactly, This right here. The headroom you have is insane. If a game comes out unoptimized on a lower gpu such as the 4070 Ti / 4080 your kinda up the creek, 4090 will still be able to push it nicely. MW3 might be one of those games for me so the 4090 would be a major key in that which I hear is made by SH and van guard wasn’t the best optimized game .
@plasmahvh 9 ай бұрын
@@Dr_Angry depends on the price, if the price is similar i'd go with the 4080. superior upscaling same raster superior RT more efficient
@aerrae5608 5 ай бұрын
@@DETERMINOLOGY Depends on the game... The 4090 can't run everything at max either and it hasn't been able to since path tracing. Maybe I'm just realizing how game development works now but I don't think there is such a thing as future proofing. Devs are building features into their games that no consumer gaming GPU can fully run at modern resolutions with just raw power.
@DETERMINOLOGY 5 ай бұрын
@@aerrae5608 I wouldn’t keep buying 80 series nor 70 series which is more money. The 4090 can hold nicely if you don’t let unoptimized games make you wanna upgrade and everything isn’t based around 4k.
@aspikbardamu6040 10 ай бұрын
Very happy with my 4080 for the game i play with in 4K as i dont need 144HZ ( no competitive FPS) Around 120 FPS for most games in Ultra 4K is definitively enough, lets say on more demanding one around 100FPS like cyberpunk i can live with it.
@blastofo 6 ай бұрын
Anything about 60fps is diminished returns. And ray tracing is so not worth the performance cost. I can only see a 4090 being needed for the most giant of TV's.
@KAL-589 10 ай бұрын
Well done on covering frame limit, power, and undervolting. I've not seen a single review cover all three of these. Thank you. ❤
@Dongdot123 10 ай бұрын
Yeah it really helps me to consider the 4090 for the burst on some applications, but I don't want it to be so power hungry for everyday uses. Glad it's pretty efficient at many games too
@Onestepbehind 10 ай бұрын
All my friends tell me a 4090 is overkill but seeing the benchmarks I’ll take it lol
@ErockOnTech 10 ай бұрын
Lol I used to think the same thing. Until I used it myself haha.
@Mannu385 10 ай бұрын
I grabbed the FE 4090 last year, upgrading from an RX 6900XT, it's deff not overrated. The 7900XTX or 4080 would not have been a justifiable upgrade to cap out 4k 144Hz.
@iikatinggangsengii2471 10 ай бұрын
it is the new 1080ti, but 450w power might not for everyone
@Mannu385 10 ай бұрын
If you plan to overclock it, yes it will go close to 500W in some games, but I've undervolted mine and set it to 80% power draw, with a bit of memory clock increased I get same, or greater performance than stock. And it stays below 350W all the time.@@iikatinggangsengii2471
@dex4sure361 5 ай бұрын
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 Doubt that. 2080 Ti was nowhere close 2x faster than 1080 Ti. 5090 is rumored to be about 2x faster than 4090. Ray tracing still new tech so foolish to assume 4090 will last as long as 1080 Ti did.
@tempacc9589 10 ай бұрын
Since all 4090's were made for 600 watt Nvidia spec but in the end they only went to 450watt, pretty much every 4090 is overbuilt.
@maximus3294 10 ай бұрын
and then consider that the 4080 uses the same coolers 😂 they're WAY overbuilt
@nossy232323 10 ай бұрын
I think that is great actually. All cards are pretty much very low noise because of it.
@lemonhaze715 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget ur GPU stands tho! They r heavy cards!
@JoeMama-yl1ow 9 ай бұрын
Wrong i have seen 600 plus out of my card
@nossy232323 9 ай бұрын
@@JoeMama-yl1ow That must be an RTX 4090 with an overclock. I have never seen my card do that.
@fireghost1509 10 ай бұрын
hey man, really love your work!! do you think that the rtx 4060 is worth it? I have a budget of 1200 dollars
@Dr_Angry 10 ай бұрын
4060 is entering the 3080ti,3090 and 3090ti range in terms of performance
@XxoxX-pc 10 ай бұрын
I'm new to pc gaming ,what program do you use for your fps overlay?
@ErockOnTech 10 ай бұрын
MSI Afterburner.
@Gonedeath 6 ай бұрын
I have RTX 4090 Gaming OC version from GIGABYTE coming from RTX 2080 EVGA using 4090 for almost to one year loved it
@rasa4512 9 ай бұрын
Just an fyi all 4090 cards can run 666 watts if you flash the BIOS onto it as they're all compatible/interchangeable, even without the need for extra 8x or the new 12x pins. 2x 8 pins are more than capable of pushing 600 watts and above. Did this with my Colorful Battle Ax 4090 and it handles it fine, maxing out at about 86/87 degrees at high wattage (this card runs a little hotter in general). Not that you rly even need it but nice to have that option. Flash the BIOS then run the Furmark benchmark to confirm wattage as other benchmarks won't push your wattage to its max. Most games won't push above 450/500 watts anyways tho, but the ones that do push it still ran fine in long sessions just makes the room a little hot in the summer heh...
@Billuhhanks 8 ай бұрын
I just built a new pc with a 4090 as my old one consisted of cpu, motherboard and other parts from 2018 so it was getting a little long in the tooth. The only exception was a evga (rip) 3080 that I was lucky enough to get through evga’s step up program in 2020. I thought that card would be future proof but it’s 10 gb of vram sunk that. I was considering a 4080 or 7900xtx but found a good open box deal at microcenter for msi’s suprim 4090 and pulled the trigger knowing that the 50 series was still 2 years away. The 4090 costs a ton but my god is it powerful and will be for a long time.
@qubes8728 9 ай бұрын
You may not notice on the screen but higher frames decreases render latency.
@doomsayr_x 2 ай бұрын
I enjoy mine in 4k. I think it was worth saving for.
@gergoturi7559 10 ай бұрын
Honestly the 4090 is amazing... but I just couldn't justify a price that high. I considered the 4080 (because Nvidia), however after a lot of research I went with a sapphire nitro 7900 xtx... and I love it. I was a bit sceptical at first, but I think the adrenaline software was really put together well and the hardware is also still insanely good.
@caveresch 9 ай бұрын
You have any issues with the drivers?
@gergoturi7559 9 ай бұрын
@@cavereschnot at all. In fact, I was surprised how well the adrenaline software was put together in terms of funtionality. So the 7900 xtx might be the second/third fastest card on the market, it's still pretty damn good. Also the new features amd announced at gamescom put a smile on my face, further reinforcing I made a good decision.
@gergoturi7559 9 ай бұрын
@@cavereschare you considering buying an amd card?
@99vv17 9 ай бұрын
@@gergoturi7559I’m on the same spot and I play cod and it’s just calling my name but 4080 isn’t much of a price difference…..
@gergoturi7559 9 ай бұрын
@@99vv17if you can grab a 7900 xtx for 900$ just grab it, no need for the 4080. You won't be disappointed. Also let's not forget amd is planning to include frame gen on the driver level.
@DariusPL 8 ай бұрын
Going for PNY was a good call. IMHO the only 4090s worth considering are PNY and Inno3D. The others are either notorious coil whiners (Asus, MSI) or fan motor howlers (Palit, Gainward, KFA2/Galax, Zotac). Gigabyte is decent but it has fan curve/ramp-up issues.
@mv223 7 ай бұрын
TUF 4090's are the shiz. I haven't heard it yet, zero problems. Runs cool as can be too, and overclocks very high.
@DarkNice1988 8 ай бұрын
So I was saving up for a long time to build a new PC (last one had a gtx980) and the 4090 seemed too expensive so I went for a 4080 and a 13700k. It was still an expensive PC here in the EU and when I looked at the total price of the components and the monitor getting a 4090 instead of the 4080 was a 6% price increase for 20%+ more performance (on average). In my head the 4090 made a lot more sense at that point.
@jawsofwar 9 ай бұрын
Got the PNY 4090 recently at Microcenter over the others because of size! The others are just a huge issue with case size.
@filippetrovic845 9 ай бұрын
Wtf how come when literally i cant find a case where you cant fit even the biggest model.
@timtoomuch 10 ай бұрын
I bought same card runs cool and quiet. I was big Evga fan but after doing research went with pny xlr8 4090 great card no coil wine even oc to 1300 memory 200 core
@jamesm568 10 ай бұрын
Coil whine seems to be an issue with cards that are beefed-up for excessive overclocking.
@AlainTabangin 10 ай бұрын
I got a 4090 strix for my production build and 4090 tuf oc for my gaming build. I had 7900 xtx but it was giving me trouble on some games and just give it to my daughters gaming build.
@exar8355 10 ай бұрын
I think what many reviews of the 4080 failed to understand is that its Dlss efficiency is far beyond the 30 series (due to the superior 4th gen tensor cores) and that Dlss is a massive advantage over FSR 2, and in most cases is equal if not better than native. So these 40 series cards - even the 4090 - are really designed to use Dlss. I have a 4080 that is brilliant, but I've actually been equally impressed by my laptop 4060, which in Dlss balanced or performance hits 60fps at 4k in most modern titles, while staying well within the 8gb vram limit. That's really insane, and it truly showcases how much further ahead the 40 series is.
@whiskizyo2067 10 ай бұрын
too bad absolutely none of that matters since upscaling tech isn't available in most games. but good to know i guess
@TerraWare 10 ай бұрын
@@whiskizyo2067 It depends on the games you play I suppose but pretty much all recent AAA games have some form of temporal upscaling solution which is where it matters the most imo. Elden Ring is one that comes to mind that doesn't have any. Thinking about this years releases alone from Hogwarts legacy to RE4 Remake, Dead Space Remake, Exoprimal, Remnant 2, Lies of P, BG3, Returnal, Ratchet and Clank, Star Wars Jedi Survivor, , Need for Speed Unbound, Warhammer Darktide, Redfall, Dead island 2, Aliens Dark Descent and am sure there's probably a few others that have upscaling but those are some of the ones Ive played.
@exar8355 10 ай бұрын
@@whiskizyo2067 why would you write something so misleading and confusing for people interested in buying modern cards? The tech is available in almost all modern visually demanding PC games, which is where that technology is actually useful. The fact that it is not available in most games, presumably referring to the thousands of games that were made prior to Dlss, is of course true but also largely irrelevant since all modern discreet GPUs are able to run older games without a problem. There might be a few outliers but presumably not many. I've had Radeon and NVIDIA cards and I'm not partial to either; I'm just stating relevant facts. There are I am sure smaller modern titles that don't support Dlss, and some outliers that have no upscaling options, and some like Starfield and Jedi Survivor (which are "AMD exclusive" titles) that support upscaling but not Dlss (in which case NVIDIA cards would still be just as capable if not more so if running this well), but the majority of AAA modern games support Dlss.
@DC3Refom 8 ай бұрын
It's ridiculously overpriced for its offers who gives a shit
@Isaacmmc 10 ай бұрын
Erock, believe it or not I am still trying to figure out if I want to fully switch to console and get an xbox or not lmaooooo
@Hotrod_algo 10 ай бұрын
Almost bought your 4080 on marketplace, but decided to wait and either get a 4090 or hopefully a 4080 super *fingers crossed, Nvidia does a super refresh for the 40 series cards
@ErockOnTech 10 ай бұрын
Oh interesting. You’re in GA?
@carrickdubya4765 9 ай бұрын
5090 specs have been leaked, so I'd say you'll be getting a 5080 instead
@ErockOnTech 8 ай бұрын
@@carrickdubya4765 The 50 series is scheduled to launch in 2025.
@lendial 10 ай бұрын
I recently upgraded from a 1080ti to a 4090 hoping to have a card thats going to last at least 5 years. Weird thing is that the game im playing now (BG3) actually lose some fps because of how cpu bottlenecked act 3 is.
@TheXboxSux 8 ай бұрын
It's weird to own a flagship GPU in todays gaming market. We've hit the point of diminishing returns where raw rasterization isn't giving us the generational leaps we're used to. I've been more than happy with my 4070 coming from my 1080ti with what it delivers and how power efficient it is. I just refuse to spend the ridiculous amount of money on a flagship that Nvidia commands these days.
@cryonic. 10 ай бұрын
your 7800x3d runs pretty cool, whats your undervolt?
@ErockOnTech 10 ай бұрын
PBO advanced. Curve optimizer. -45 all core. Except one core is -50. This will vary per CPU.
@cryonic. 10 ай бұрын
damn you got a really good chip, most ive seen people do is -35@@ErockOnTech
@ErockOnTech 8 ай бұрын
@@cryonic. I guess I got a bit lucky.
@kevint3821 10 ай бұрын
No, I agree it is not overrated. It handles all games with the highest framerates. I understand people think it is too expensive, but it is an enthusiast card. I am glad it exists.
@NTStudios 10 ай бұрын
Although the scenarios are different for everyone, for me, at almost one year into this generation, paying that $1,600 premium, plus tax for a 4090 doesn't seem worth it just for it to be outperformed by the 5070/5070 Ti in a little over a year, UNLESS you are targeting 4K in which case, a 4090 is the best option right now. A used 4080 on Amazon is closer to $1,000 which would be saving you a third of the 4090's cost for roughly 80% of it's rasterization performance at 1440p.
@TheTeflon490 10 ай бұрын
It is already confirmed that 5000 series are going to be delayed into 2025, so 5070 will most likely be available not in a little over a year, but rather over 2 years. With this approach you could also wait forever for next gen of anything.
@MegaEunit 8 ай бұрын
Water is wet and the sky is blue. Just buy a card that can hang for a few gens at the resolution and frames you feel is enjoyable and stop trying to have the best. Thats impossible when by the time they roll out the SKUs of the latest and greatest they are already talking about the “next and better generation”.
@El_SamB 6 ай бұрын
Follow Jesus Christ
@Chronos867 5 ай бұрын
What should have been the ideal price for 4090
@themadnes5413 4 ай бұрын
@@Chronos867 if the 4080 is 1000$ around 1350-1400$ would be okay. So you get around 30% more fps for 35-40% more, seems reasonable for me. BUT, if price were not that crazy as they are. 4080=700-800$, 4090 1000-1100$
@MarginalSC 10 ай бұрын
PNY has the advantage of fitting in more cases.
@ErockOnTech 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! It’s smaller!
@Nick-bc2lm 18 күн бұрын
Good video. Number crunching myself. I'm still rocking a 13yr old fx8350 with a gtx 1660. Been a good rig. AIO died after 9 years. Other pc I built for daughter is AM4 socket, only a few years old. Deciding between a new build, or maxing out the am4 rig then the whole 4080 4090 card. A 650.00 price difference between the 2. Leaning to 4090 as its at the top, and can move to another rig down the road.
@AlexDroog71 10 ай бұрын
I have a MSI 4090 hooked to a LG C2 TV at 120hz. It is the pinnacle of gaming, mind blowing.
@D-money813 10 ай бұрын
I want the PNY or Founders Edition model because they are simply smaller, I got the regular degular MSI gaming Trio instead. continuing video...
@sammyflinders 10 ай бұрын
PNY are great lol. I have the 4070Ti model and it's fantastically well built. In the case of my model it was also extremely well reviewed.
@skyracerxp 5 ай бұрын
when swapping 40 series cards, do you need to reinstall drivers?
@lennyzhao367 5 ай бұрын
Yes, since each gpu have their own unique driver, and preferably a clean installation too, meaning wiping the prior driver & installing the new one.
@David-nd4to 7 ай бұрын
Im happy with it, it could just be a fair chunk cheaper
@ers-tj4to 7 ай бұрын
Now that there's word going around that the 4090s will be discontinued, I'm grateful that I was able to get my hands on two 4090s earlier this year at msrp. Looking forward to the 50 cards.
@valkknight6589 10 ай бұрын
I bought the 4090 to pair with my i9 13900k and I choosen those parts to bcs they are at the time the best and will last for a long time before I need to upgrade again
@nossy232323 10 ай бұрын
I did the same, but I went for the 7950X3D so that I can still upgrade my CPU later.
@ardithconley2628 10 ай бұрын
I am happy with my Asus Dual OC RTX 4070. Good on everything I do in my editing PC. Gaming I have a RTX 3070 which plays the games well that I play. I though which PC should I put me new card in? It came down to this the A1 encoder is not supported by my editing software. However, I want to use it for that. Which boils down the RTX 3070 will save files I can edit on the other PC and push them out as AV1. If I got rich and was able to get another card for my gaming PC it may be something with more ram than the 8g. I like to go 16g to 20g. But another RTX 4070 12g would be fine.
@user-xe9zv7qb4c 8 ай бұрын
Purchased the 4080 with the 7800x3d and it is awesome. Less price in electricity and does everything I want.
@ErockOnTech 8 ай бұрын
I used to have that same combo before I bought the 4090. It’s a great combo! I wouldn’t have upgraded if I wasn’t a creator.
@mynamejeffgaming 8 ай бұрын
I got the PNY 4080 with 7800x3d and its such a great combo 👍
@blakkheartt12 10 ай бұрын
Nice comparison. I wonder how high they will price the 5000 series cards.
@XeqtrM1 10 ай бұрын
I would guess Ether the same or like increase price of 5090 but reduce price of 5080 like 5090 will be like 1700 or 1600 and 5080 Wil be like or should be below 1k if they want it to sell good but if they r greedy probably 1300 or the same
@DDD-xx4mg 10 ай бұрын
I would guess at least 10%-15% increase due to inflation
@XeqtrM1 10 ай бұрын
@@DDD-xx4mg might be more since they won't go mcm design until 60 series
@PneumaticTire 10 ай бұрын
My PNY 4080 is awesome. Zero complaints and like it better than any MSI or Gigabyte card I’ve had.
@ErockOnTech 10 ай бұрын
PNY is a good brand.
@roki977 10 ай бұрын
it will be solid 1440p GPU very soon..
@parkersgarage4216 10 ай бұрын
The differences between the 4080 and 4090 is a generational one. The 4090 for vr is unparalelled as well. It is expensive, the thing is you dont have to make compromises w it though. I recommend buying a used one if you cant afford new. Hell even if you can afford it i still recommend buying used. Its always better to keep money in your pocket. The 4090 is simply a monster gpu.
@MrFoxRox 10 ай бұрын
Yes, it is a monster. But, as awesome as it is, it's a castrated monster. Voltage is gimped. I need AT LEAST 1.200V for mine to become everything that I want it to be. The 1.100V kneecap is a hindrance to achieving even greater things.
@parkersgarage4216 10 ай бұрын
@@MrFoxRox what card do you have? What are you trying that it won't do? Genuinely curious
@MrFoxRox 10 ай бұрын
@@parkersgarage4216 I have the 4090 Suprim cooled with chilled water. I am running the 1000W vBIOS but exhaust the available 1.100V. I need 1.200-1.300V to max out my core overclock capacity on chilled water. This replaced my 3090 Kingpin, which I usually benched at 1.400-1.425V on the chiller.
@GSP-76 10 ай бұрын
@@MrFoxRoxHow is yours performing at 1000w vs the stock power profile? The 4090 as great as it is, doesn't scale well at all.
@MrFoxRox 10 ай бұрын
@@GSP-76 I do not have a der8auer meter on the GPU connector, but I am pulling between 850-900W from the wall in a strenuous stress test. With the 1000W vBIOS I run out of GPU voltage before I exhaust the power limit. 1.100V just isn't enough to extract everything the 4090 is capable of. But, to answer your question, yes... very notable improvement with the 1000W vBIOS versus the 666W Galax vBIOS. The 666W power limit is too low.
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