Is the SG Muse Worth Buying? | 2020 Epiphone Modern Collection SG Muse Purple Pasion Metallic Review

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Is the SG Muse Worth Buying? | 2020 Epiphone Modern Collection SG Muse Purple Pasion Metallic Review
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@Bryan-pl5km 3 жыл бұрын

Hello, I am the Uncle Bryan that is getting this guitar, the reason that my nephew got it for me was that lavender was my wife's favorite color. Diane my wife of over 40 years and Chris's Aunt all of his life, passed away suddenly, almost 3 years ago now. when Chris saw this, he knew he had to get it for me, and I feel so honored that he loved his Aunt Diane so much...

@amylou7991 3 жыл бұрын

Really hope this lovely guitar gives you many, many years of joy. Best wishes

@Riverdeepnwide 3 жыл бұрын

Chris is cool. Happy Birthday Uncle Brian!

@jwilder2251 3 жыл бұрын

That is an awesome tribute. SG = Special Guitar

@saltpeter7429 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool. I had an Uncle I loved a lot as well. I hope you enjoy your new guitar, you have a good nephew, who apparently thinks your a great uncle. Rock on!

@JJames666male Жыл бұрын

Hey Uncle Bryan, hope you're enjoying this guitar still. Much love

@shotgunrebels 3 жыл бұрын

The one epiphone I seriously considered buying. Love that color.

@Bryan-kl5rr 3 жыл бұрын

I’m going through a pink guitar phase myself. Saw a guy playing a pink strat with maple neck and it was stunning. This SG looks great too

@GearGasms 3 жыл бұрын

I have a shell pink Tele and a neon pink Jackson soloist and have featured both on my channel. I ain’t scared

@BigFatCaulk 3 жыл бұрын

i’m buying a epiphone les paul alpine white, not buying a real gibson because they are so ungodly expensive

@shotgunrebels 3 жыл бұрын

I owned a pinkish (metallic sunset) 80’s custom lite and a pink 80’s Vandenburg at one time. Wish I still had both.

@GlennJimenez 3 жыл бұрын

Same here I thought about changing the plastics to black and getting a pearloid pickguard

@juneau.bandca 3 жыл бұрын

I bought this SG Muse for me but my daughter likes it more than me haha, it’s her favorite.

@seanhershey3390 3 жыл бұрын

very cool!.. hope you're well...:)

@danieltravis5082 3 жыл бұрын

Holy Crap! Krist Novoselic! Greetings from Wenatchee! hope all is well on the coast!

@seanhershey3390 3 жыл бұрын

Daniel Travis right?

@seanhershey3390 3 жыл бұрын

Are we the only ones who’ve noticed..?.:)

@danieltravis5082 3 жыл бұрын

@@seanhershey3390 so far!

@beefs0ck911 3 жыл бұрын

I’m gonna use the pink one for my doom and black metal bands

@ErickC 3 жыл бұрын

YES.

@bobkaiser8782 3 жыл бұрын

My niece plays in a sludge metal band & loves pink. She doesn't know it yet, but she'll be adding this to her aresnal.

@duncan-_- 3 жыл бұрын

Same im gonna be playing this in my grindcore and powerviolence bands

@orionduckstein9202 3 жыл бұрын

@@bobkaiser8782 does she love it now?

@MetalKeith666 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao amazing

@agustinvidalmusic 3 жыл бұрын

epiphone has definitely got their shit together... these guitars are beautiful!

@chrisdodson2025 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the birthday message Trogly. I know this guitar means the world to my Uncle Bryan. He lost his wife not long ago and this guitar was her favorite color. The guitar has been dubbed "the Spirit of Diane," in her memory. Thanks again for making this birthday wish that little bit more special.

@chrisdodson2025 3 жыл бұрын

PS. All you Uncle's can now shame your nieces and nephews into buying you a guitar for your birthday. Just don't show them this comment.

@natashanyxx9486 3 жыл бұрын

It’s too bad that Gibson won’t loosen up a bit and start offering these wider ranges of colors and finishes. It’s a bummer to see guitars with great specs done in tired colors and finishes. The options for finishes is often what drives people to boutique brands.

@urkelheimer 3 жыл бұрын

Gibson used to make sg X in shell pink, would be great to see something like that treated with the metallic like these

@HeelBJC 3 жыл бұрын

I mean... If there was a market for them I'm sure they would. Even if a couple people get driven to boutique brands, that small amount of people alone wouldn't make it cost effective.

@natashanyxx9486 3 жыл бұрын

TheMichiganfan97 I own a Kiesel. It’s a fantastic instrument. Built with my choice of tone wood, top, colors, and finish, ordered and built in 8 weeks. Gibson cannot compete with that. (And I own a Gibson too, so I have something to compare it to).

@HeelBJC 3 жыл бұрын

@@natashanyxx9486 LOL. Gibson "can't compete" with that? Are... Are you serious? Gibson has an annual revenue of around $1 billion. Yet they "can't compete" with a tiny company more notable for inexcusable customer service than anything guitar related? Yikes.

@AdultsAreTalking 3 жыл бұрын

Did you miss the entire Gibson SG CME Exclusive run? They had a bunch of oddball colors! Pink, green, blue, yellow, etc

@GearGasms 3 жыл бұрын

I’m a grown ass man who’s been playing for 40 years and I’d rock the F out of that guitar. It’s not a Daisy Rock guitar

@BucsRaysBolts 3 жыл бұрын

Lol my first guitar was a hot pink Daisy Rock LP copy that was like $400. It has Duncan Designed pickups and grover tuners. I mainly play an Ibanez ART100 (another cheap LP style guitar) now. All unbranded parts but it's way lighter than the Daisy Rock.

@DarkDare47 3 жыл бұрын

The same quality, maybe even worst now.

@slapittywapitty8173 3 жыл бұрын

@@BucsRaysBolts: Lol my first electric was a Ruby Sparkle Daisy Rock Retro-H De-Luxe - like $400. Duncan Designed minis, Grovers & a genuine Bigsby. KILLER tone.

@BucsRaysBolts 3 жыл бұрын

@@slapittywapitty8173 Cool I never knew they released a semi hollow. I just looked mine up and it's the Rock Candy Classic. It sounds great but the weight kills my back now.

@slapittywapitty8173 3 жыл бұрын

@@BucsRaysBolts: Daisy Rocks are so good b/c they ARE Schecters. Shame The Ciravallos divorced. Trish left & took the DR brand w/her.

@haqq4257 3 жыл бұрын

I bought one of these in the same color sight unseen the moment I saw it online at NAMM Show review. Always wanted an SG type guitar and this one forced me to pull the trigger. For the price I don't think you can beat it. And by the way I am a 50 year old man, but I play funk music so the color suits just fine. And by the way Mr. I Trogly, kind of purple and kind of pink is called Magenta! Many argue whether this is actually a color or not because it does not naturally appear on the color spectrum which is what fascinates me about the color. It is literally, off the chart! Looks fantastic, plays great and sounds awesome. As Trogly said there is nothing to do but just choose your color...

@GearGasms 3 жыл бұрын

I’m 54 and have three pink guitars all of which have been on my channel!

@jeffmancuso2715 3 жыл бұрын

49 and I also have a pink guitar, wife made fun of me.

@Faulheit 3 жыл бұрын

YES DUDE ive been waiting for you to do a review of the sg in this colour im so happy

@radman1136 3 жыл бұрын

I bought one in scarlet red a couple of months ago. Even the pro photos that Sweetwater sends you after you buy one didn't do it justice, and the fit and finish, binding etc... were as good as perfect. Very happy! It's a player and a keeper for less than $450. Do yourself a favor and go play one before you spend more.

@LexiZipkin 3 жыл бұрын

Love your videos! The one you did on the purple LP Classic Worn actually led to my buying one and proceeding to mod it out, and I love the guitar

@lizarrrdbeth 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect even for a 53 year old girl!!!! I love it!!!

@tacob69 3 жыл бұрын

I'm 48 and confident in my manhood that if I bought one of these it would be this color.I like it.

@GearGasms 3 жыл бұрын

I’m 54 and have three pink guitars and have featured all of them on my channel

@doggin6 3 жыл бұрын

Being comfortable in your manhood has nothing to do with the fact, it’s just a terrible colours. It’s horrible. 🤮🤢

@dixienormous6969 3 жыл бұрын

@@doggin6 this color is sooooo dreamy though 😍 not to mention, absolutely positively POSH 🤌🏻💅

@JT-gm4fk 3 жыл бұрын

@@doggin6 yeah...it pretty much screams my little pony

@martinafan64 2 жыл бұрын

The best looking guitar in my collection is an Ibanez RG1XXV in Fluorescent Pink. The pink shark tooth inlays are really cool. I didn't think I would like a pink guitar so much. Now I want a Jackson Dinky DK2 in neon pink, and a Fender HM Strat in flash pink. And of course an SG Muse in purple passion metallic (which looks pinkish too).

@jonathanlindemann515 3 жыл бұрын

OMG! Yessssssss! Finally! Thanks for the video ☺️

@owenv3346 3 жыл бұрын

Saw the whole color set and was blown away at a local shop. Definitely on the to-get list

@Ycjedi 3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE the side mounted jack! 10/10

@crate5150 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video and review.

@SonovaBish 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the red one. The neck feels great. I thought I might have to change the pickups, but I love them. I play this as much as my #1 2012 Gibson Les Paul Standard.

@shannonjones3714 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent job as always! Thank you!

@zXobusterXz 3 жыл бұрын

these new epiphones are cool man!

@malcolmhardwick4258 3 жыл бұрын

Pink is far from my favourite colour but I gotta say it looks so cool!

@nessearthbound3107 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing colour. Looks so cool!

@rubencordero6918 3 жыл бұрын

Bought the SG Muse in Radio Blue. Absolute stunner ! First upgrade on all my guitars is locking tuners. Side output jack , no pick guard , clear knobs, coil split and phase switch all modern twists. Comes with the classic SG neck dive. Would move the top strap button to a better location. Great piece of gear !

@chekocheyenne 3 жыл бұрын

The black sparkle les Paul is beautiful !!

@Bryan-kl5rr 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for dedicating the video to me! -An Uncle Bryan 🤗😂

@bropotatojoemanna 3 жыл бұрын

The playing in the first distortion sound sample was awesome

@Ycjedi 3 жыл бұрын

These things definitely like gain! The coil splitting does make them better clean guitars than I expected

@theslayerofgoblins849 3 жыл бұрын

Hells yeah..ide like to know exactly what he had going on.

@junes2k 3 жыл бұрын

I really liked the white one you showed. Thin neck is great for beginners too. Most importantly, the pink one sounded good.

@Matthew-dr1un 3 жыл бұрын

This and the new epiphone LP special seem amazing

@Anjohl 2 жыл бұрын

This entire line is amazing.

@guitarraperuana4512 3 жыл бұрын

The colour is really nice, and i'm glad gibson makes epiphones with the original headstock shape now. Looks much better than the old shape.

@joequesda15 3 жыл бұрын

Just ordered the Wanderlust Green!!! Ur vid makes me feel much better about my decision! GTech Locking tuners, ripping her guts an pick ups out popping in DarkMoon🌑.🤘

@Kevin.Kelly. 3 жыл бұрын

I bought that one this past summer for my daughter.

@chopper4484 3 жыл бұрын

I got the modern wasn’t planning on it, but the asymmetric neck was more comfortable in my hand than other guitars in the price range despite the glossy finish. I swapped out clear speed knobs for black, looks stunning, plays great, stays in tune and the out of phase sound is delicious. It is a little on the heavy side compared to the other SG models in stock but I can live with it.

@Greg-vd5om 3 жыл бұрын

Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!

@hihowareyouitsme 3 жыл бұрын

Trogly this has been the guitar I've been waffling to buy as my next guitar (or a G&L Doheny, would be cool to see some G&L love here on the channel) and this video is seriously making me question my decision, it's SO much prettier in video than I ever thought it would be from pictures, and I already loved the photos!!! Thanks for this video :)

@Riverdeepnwide 3 жыл бұрын

Hihow the first G&L I bought (GT-90) was so incredibly good I somehow ended up with two more G&Ls far too quickly. (HB3 and an ASAT Tribute, all deals, all excellent).

@chriscosgrove1516 3 жыл бұрын

my friend has a doheny, an amazing guitar for the price. The trem is sooo smooth

@Ycjedi 3 жыл бұрын

I just got the green one last week. I'm very happy with it! Neck plays very easy, and nice electronics and pick-ups for the price! Sounded great out of the box. It'll be a good little gigging axe for our heavier songs my Strat isnt best suited for. The knobs LOOK great, but are sketchy fitting. That's really my only main complaint with the guitar, and Grover tuners would have been nice too.

@danielparsonsmusic 3 жыл бұрын

Having worked at a local music store for a year, one of the fun bits was tearing into a new shipment of guitars and checking them all for QC.

@DheadslayinG 3 жыл бұрын

I was wanting to hold out for the prophecy series, but i saw a local shop had one of these in this amazing color for only $350 so i caved. Been loving it a lot and I love taking this guitar out of my coffin case and playing some sabbath on it lol.

@axesandelbows414 3 жыл бұрын

American Musical Supply has a run of the SG moderns in different color options like trans red and honeyburst. Loaded with quality parts, you just can't go wrong with the Epiphone SG Modern. The build quality exceeds expectations at the price point but the neck on this guitar is simply outstanding! It plays like a dream! I love mine! Toss your favorite set of pickups in it and you'll be playing it a lot!

@martinbaker1609 3 жыл бұрын

I really like the look of a SG without the pickgaurd.

@ZaneDalton 3 жыл бұрын

Martin Baker I think it looks much better with than without, but to each their own.

@briangarcia8384 3 жыл бұрын

@@ZaneDalton same. Gave it some edge and heftiness

@dumbdickler670 3 жыл бұрын

The wanderlust green looks really great on an sg. I just wish it had a pickguard; I've never seen a guitar that looked right without a pickguard

@Molotov_Milkshake Жыл бұрын

I was in that mindset originally. But once you see how nice the finish is, you realise that it'd be a waste to put a pickguard on it. I got the jet black metallic version recently and it's honestly beautiful. The stock photos on retailer websites don't really show off just how good the finishes look on this range. I went from 'uh no pickguard? I don't like it!' to 'I'm gonna get one, but I'm gonna fit a pickguard', to now having it in my hands and thinking 'this guitar is a work of art, I wouldn't change it at all'. It sounds fucking awesome too. Honestly amazing guitar especially for the £250 I paid for it. The finish is too stunning to cover up with pickguards.

@roymoderatto 3 жыл бұрын

Glam Rock band member here..! Hahaha! This is the color I want for mine! I already have the Blue LP. Killer pickups, great coil splitting/ phase action... super affordable! 🤘😎⚡️

@42Voltron 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the pearl white muse back in April and I've enjoyed it as is but I always bought it with the intention of upgrading the wiring and pickups Maybe put a full black batwing pick guard on it too for a real stunner of a look. Great review and demo as always

@Ycjedi 3 жыл бұрын

I can see myself putting some good vintage tuners. The electronics and pickups I'm actually pretty happy with! And I always wanted a good green guitar lol

@ShaunTrillo 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve taken countless 2020 epiphones out of boxes and they’re all bloody good, Gibsons always need a neck adjustment and action setup

@RefRMart10 3 жыл бұрын

Got mine for 380 and a free detail and setup :) Made some upgrades and feeling good! My fretboard is pretty smooth as well Tuners needed tightens badly, switch is loose.

@phillippitts6294 3 жыл бұрын

The white looks really nice in person. Has some sparkle in the white

@bluekoi455 3 жыл бұрын

Just gotta say,my first Epi is a ‘20 black custom and I love it!

@cowtowncustoms2110 3 жыл бұрын

At that price and Epiphone quality, you can't beat it!

@godtoHrD 2 жыл бұрын

Purple passion metallic has got to be one of the coolest finishes I've ever seen an SG come in. Really took me by surprise lol

@chrisghiardi117 3 жыл бұрын

Regarding top mounted jacks, it's the lever action of a big straight plug that leads to damage if you accidentally bump it. Use an angle plug on a top mount jack. I like the color. A lot like Burgundy Mist on my phone anyway.

@Molotov_Milkshake Жыл бұрын

I got the black one recently on sale for £249 and I'm very impressed with it. Would have preferred the pink or almond finish, but they cost like £150 more or so. I'm very pleasantly suprised and impressed with the black one though. The jet black metallic finish looks really nice when the light catches it, especially yellow lighting. It's quite understated on first glance, but is actually a beautiful guitar. Plays and sounds great too!

@hkguitar1984 3 жыл бұрын

Love the color options

@jacobseal 3 жыл бұрын

The green one is DOPE. The pickups sound pretty rough to me. But for this price throwing in some SD 59's would give you a great sounding guitar too. I had an epiphone SG with p90's and it was one of my favorite guitars ever. These colors are great for the stage!

@AwkwardHypernerd413 Жыл бұрын

The green muse SG looks like squidward

@Zoso981 2 жыл бұрын

My 2021 Epi SG Modern Figured (in Honeyburst) arrived in VERY good shape. No sharp fret ends, no buzzing, no finish issues. Just a string change, fretboard conditioning and a few minor adjustments was all it needed. My 2020 Les Paul Standard 50's, on the other hand, was pretty terrible.

@AlexIsASeraphim 3 жыл бұрын

Taking your advice on this Austin. I'll check out the moderns.

@tippytailmckitty2658 3 жыл бұрын

Cool review.

@r.s.b. 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant review, i ordered my own Purple Passion SG now. It suits perfect to my glamrock band. But: I hope the tuners are metal and not plastic...

@johndef5075 3 жыл бұрын

Dont feel bad about an honest review. You didnt do the bad fret job.....

@dontderockmeriz4546 3 жыл бұрын

I have the classic worn in Inverness green & p90’s. Wow, a fantastic guitar for $379. The muse is cool, I like the gold. That would be my choice.

@mightyV444 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome shredding at 3:38 x-))

@glick278 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! HareKrishna&GodBless❤️🙏

@GabrielGranitz 3 жыл бұрын

I’m glad to be early!

@urkelheimer 3 жыл бұрын

The pink and scarlet red look great

@rondobondo6600 3 жыл бұрын

I would rock that guitar and I like the color also

@sumeetj3628 3 жыл бұрын

I got a jet black metallic 3 months ago, absolutely loving it although the tuners aren't that good.

@tryten9 3 жыл бұрын

I like the colors but prefer the modern. I would be happy either way honestly.

@clarkbabin9799 3 жыл бұрын

I like the switching options. Not a fan of the color or the rings and control cover color. But I agree about the modern being best choice despite lack of color options.

@kevinberg84 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome back, chocolate ice!

@kirkwilson6229 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful.

@sentforth5 3 жыл бұрын

Every blue moon a really good Epiphone will surface. This may be blasphemous to say on Trogly's channel, but I'm 55 years old and in my guitar playing life of almost 40 years, I have owned several Gibson Les Pauls, but the absolute best Les Paul I've had is a 2015 Limited Edition 100th Anniversary Epiphone Les Paul in Natural finish. That axe is exquisite. Best LP hands down.

@johndef5075 3 жыл бұрын

But, but the headstock!.....so tired of hearing that😂🎸

@sentforth5 3 жыл бұрын

@@johndef5075 I must admit, my LP has the deluxe Dovewing headstock, but yes...that headstock complaint is ridiculous...a guitar plays good or it doesn't...

@DavidMorales008 3 жыл бұрын

@@sentforth5 that headstock on the anniversary edition is really nice that is a really nice guitar

@sentforth5 3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidMorales008 They are gorgeous. The red ones...meh, but the natural flame maple ones are sweet!

@DavidMorales008 3 жыл бұрын

@@sentforth5 I would love one but I let one one slip away locally still regret it, and I don't do the online shopping thing

@charlesharper7292 3 жыл бұрын

Nice. Pearloid tuner knobs would look good on it.

@merc1110 3 жыл бұрын

I acquired a G-400 with a fat neck. The guitar is killer!

@lonesurvivingcourier1670 3 жыл бұрын

Cc Deville would love that colour 😂 looks gorgeous but I prefer the blue 😎

@anonymous-dk3um 3 жыл бұрын

"if you don't like sparkly metallic finishes" What lol who doesn't love them?

@NWTMasterWolf Жыл бұрын

I have the wanderlust green SG and it's beautiful! in person ( bought at a pawn shop in excellent condition for $200 so setup and strings were needed ) and I love it ( also have a custom built SG ). I need that pink one. I have a Hello Kitty sticker I want to put on it. ( I am an SG fanboy LOL ) It's awesome!!!. I like the jack position honestly. I always use D'D or EB strings ( depending on the bridge ) I always change to locking tuners other than my Custom SG ( has vintage greens ). This Muse is a great! guitar and the price point is perfect IMO.

@celestelongway7315 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! whatta SG! nice.

@Bloodyglove9939 3 жыл бұрын

You must pre order and review the Epi Prophecy Extura. Was being released on Oct but Sweetwater messaged me and said delayed till Nov 2020

@BuddyChartrand 3 жыл бұрын

When I was a fourth grader in 1965, my friend Danny received a purple Schwinn Stingray bicycle for his birthday. All the other kids at his party, and I, thought it was the coolest bike ever.

@JesseLeeKing 3 жыл бұрын

I like it I have a deep purple metallic charvel pro San dimas so this is right up my alley too

@stephenshoihet2590 3 жыл бұрын

I love that color! If I didn't already have a G400 in worn cherry, I'd definitely buy one... but then id need a blue one and a green one and... :-P

@Riverdeepnwide 3 жыл бұрын

Happy Birthday Uncle Brian(s)!

@stonephilips9361 3 жыл бұрын

Great for playing Slide

@scottmacphee35 3 жыл бұрын

Those guitars are definitely lookers.

@plevine1 Жыл бұрын

Great video. I am in the market for an Epiphone SG but getting model overload. You have the Muse line, Standard, Classic and Custom. I might be missing some. I would love to figure out how they standup against each other. Although I am NOT a fan of the output jack in the front. As far as I know, only the Muse has it on the side. This will likely drive my selection unless there is something about the Standard that makes it the winner.

@DougE.phresh 3 жыл бұрын

the black with a pick guard would be pretty sweet

@jburdsinfuse 3 жыл бұрын

I have the white one. The neck, tuning, intonation...all perfect. BUT. The pickups blow as do the electronics. It’s PCB wiring, so a pick up swap needs to be rewired. I did the full job plus Whole Lotta Humbuckers (Seymour Duncan). It sounds and plays amazing. I got it in January and rarely play any of my other guitars and I play every day. I love mine.

@Xxmeca421xX 3 жыл бұрын

I like the clear knobs

@jonhornbeck4324 3 жыл бұрын

Luv the green, almond, and the purple, although I would prefer the LP Muse, over the SG.

@garyatkins4479 3 жыл бұрын

Love your show , will you be reviewing the new limited Epiphone 59 Les Paul ? Quite interested in this one .

@joshuataft5541 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds so good distorted

@williamsk001 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the SG Muse over the Modern specifically for this "purple" color. I do wish it had the ebony fretboard, but I'm still hoping to see a new Prophecy soon...

@allendickeson442 3 жыл бұрын

I love epiphone I have a explorer and a les Paul traditional 3 with Zakk Wylde emg pick ups

@jacobbockover1628 3 жыл бұрын

I have an ltd viper and it came in perfect condition.and feels similar in size to my old guild. I have a few guitars with bad nut fits like a bit small usually and alot of cheep guitars need a good fret polish. I've had the best luck with cheaper schecter guitars if you want a plug n play guitar. I also recently got a bootlegger in that price range that worked straight out of the box

@Riverdeepnwide 3 жыл бұрын

The Modern has 24 frets, Muse 22. That gets rid of the weird tenon cover and extends your range all in one swell foop. I've loved SG's since they came out but oddly just couldn't look past the tenon cover, it always bugged me. So when Gibson came out with a 24 fret SG, perfect solution! I grabbed it.