Is the Soto Amicus a BETTER and SMALLER and CHEAPER Pocket Rocket Deluxe?

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Is the Soto Amicus a BETTER and SMALLER and CHEAPER Pocket Rocket Deluxe?

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3 жыл бұрын

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@Rashoop 3 жыл бұрын

The Amicus has become my go-to stove for backpacking. My ONLY issue is the piezo crapped out on mine. Soto USA was amazing, sending me a replacement igniter, and when that also died, they just sent me another stove. I also have the Soto Windmaster, which is also an amazing stove. If you are patient with your boiling and cooking, meaning using a lower flame and more time, the Windmaster has been the most efficient stove I've used. Really the lower-flame approach is best for ANY stove, if fuel-usage is a factor. For me it is... I keep track of my average fuel-usage per day, and take a cannister that has enough, plus a day or two emergency reserve. I find that I use about 20 grams per day, so I round that up to 25 to be conservative in my daily-use calculation.

@Jonsson474 2 жыл бұрын

I bought the one without igniter. It’s also without the springs on the pot support. Not use if it’s a different generation of product. Even if the igniter is rubbish I think I’d prefer that version. The one that I have, without igniter, feels e bit more tacky.

@GTFBITK Жыл бұрын

My igniter works visibly but won't ignite. The got it with a cook kit for $45 at REI so no biggie

@richardjones180 3 жыл бұрын

"Hi, my name is Ernie and I have a camp stove addiction." ...lol

@davemacdonald7928 3 жыл бұрын

I'm Dave and it's been 35 days since I bought my last stove... :)

@HifiCentret Жыл бұрын

Every stove should have 4 pot stands. It's just so much more stable. Sure it adds ever so slight to weight and there's other properties to consider for a stove. But 4 vs 3 make a HUGE difference in stability as tipping point is moved quite a bit away from center compared to the 3 stands.

@johnschmalbach8243 3 жыл бұрын

The one to really compare it to is the Soto Windmaster. The Amicus is the "little brother" so to speak

@fjdkfdfjdf33 3 жыл бұрын

I like how you take a closer look at the design and functionality rather than just the cooking time. Looks good.

@that_which_is_not 3 жыл бұрын

I have one without the piezo ignitor, absolutely love it 😍

@GTFBITK Жыл бұрын

The piezo unit is trash. You made the right choice.

@msilverhammer 3 жыл бұрын

Finally, we get a review of some great Japanese stove technology. One thing you forgot to mention is that the Soto Amicus is built with a brass Valve & Fittings as opposed to aluminum which strips much easier. The venerable Soto Windmaster is even better in the wind then the Amicus! I've been using the Soto Amicus for years and I've never had a problem.

@psyamok3735 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ernie, just wondering..... have you ever consider attending a camp stove addiction anonymous meeting? :) just kidding! You are the Camp Stove Man! The best channel to get great camp stove info and reviews on yt!

@doctoordan 3 жыл бұрын

And why do we watch another stove video?..”Come On Man”! You know why we watch.

@bertman4 3 жыл бұрын

I've been very happy with my Amicus. The regulator in the Amicus is really excellent. Would like to see this test under different conditions, such as at elevation or in colder temperatures.

@ahphodg260 Жыл бұрын

Love mine, and personally I love the sound at night time it’s just soothing.

@etoyocthebackwardscoyote3572 3 жыл бұрын

Been very happy with my Soto Amicus. No problems with it and it far outperforms an Etekcity or BRS-3000

@GTFBITK Жыл бұрын

That 3000 is a nice little backup. I have one in my car for emergencies.

@bahjinelson3986 3 жыл бұрын

The Amicus really held it's own. I've been very happy with mine. Great value, too. Curious to see how it stacks against the Soto Stormbreaker. There isn't a good review in English of the Stormbreaker on KZfaq. But do we need another stove review? Yes, yes we do.

@bobinmontana777 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I believe this is better than the pocket rocket. I think it’s better build quality is apparent. Like the four pot stand wings

@dannynimmo3052 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that, I'm picking one up on amazon now

@mazepa-slavaukrayini932 3 жыл бұрын

Another exceptional, very informative and useful review for all of us!

@duncanidaho2097 3 жыл бұрын

Yet another great gear video, Bones. I think the Amicus stove doesn’t have the built in regulator as the windmaster does for cold weather. I wonder how much of a diff it makes?

@jandal8905 2 жыл бұрын

The only difference is that the Windmaster will burn more consistently when the gas canister is nearly empty. To be honest, I don't care about this - I prefer to see the flame getting smaller so I know I'm nearly out of gas.

@drytool 3 жыл бұрын

Love your sense of humor, brother

@hypo345 3 жыл бұрын

The Amicus along with a pot that has a heat exchanger will reduce the time to about 1:30. I using the Optimus terra HE and it's a great combination.

@rickybritton7212 3 жыл бұрын

I love it. Having more pot support sold me. And the price hit it out of the park. Great Review Ernie. SINCERELY YOUR FREIND FROM MO RICK AND GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND ARE COUNTRY

@rickybritton7212 3 жыл бұрын

@@charlesmciver897 Thank you for pointing out my bad Spelling, I'm really appreciating you are reading my comments . God bless

@mohdakmalabdullahkassim7706 3 жыл бұрын

Great review 👍

@khaledalrumaihi8691 3 жыл бұрын

You should compare the deluxe with wind master not the amicus. I have the amicus with toaks 750 along with Optimus wind shield and diy cozy. Lite and can boil faster while cooking real food regardless of windy condition in the desert. Perfect cook set.

@joefrank7159 3 жыл бұрын

I just don't understand one thing. If going small and light. Why most stoves can't handle the small cups? Some not even the 750. Make no sense if you need to use a big and heavy pot to put in the small and light stove. This one look good and work well.

@alexandergutfeldt1144 3 жыл бұрын

Valid question! I always feel that a wider pot will catch more of the heat. Maybe that is the reason?

@DenisSolaro 2 жыл бұрын

I arrive at the same conclusion. They're not the same and my newly acquired Amicus (tested today) is definitely taking the place of my Pocket Rocket Deluxe for those dayhikes. It's also replacing my BRS-3000T, which is tiny but scary to use at times as it stutters like a 1940's rocket engine. My gripe with the Deluxe is that it's too tall to fit inside my 650ml pot, the 3 stands are too far apart for some of my minimalist pots and for my 1 cup mokka Bialetti clone. Meanwhile the amicus can fit in my main cooking pot, the 4 stands are more stable indeed but they also cover a bigger range of small gear like a 220ml (dia 65mm), a 350ml (dia 80mm) and that 1 cup bialetti clone (just 150gr and a diameter of 65mm at the base). I'll keep the Deluxe for bigger pots, like those 11cm wide ones that can take a larger canister. Thanks for the advice and all your videos because they really helped me selecting a great stove.

@davemacdonald7928 3 жыл бұрын

But... you neglected to mention that the pocket rocket deluxe has a preasure regulator. Hence the higher cost but better fuel use when the canister gets low. I'd like to see a test that determines the advantage of that

@jandal8905 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think fuel efficiency is any better with a pressure regulator. It just means the flame stays the same size for longer before it peters out.

@parf2665 3 жыл бұрын

Which would you go for the Amicus or Pocket Rocket 2? Thanks

@fiskekongen 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, testet the Primus Firestick (TI) stove? Very efficent stove for windy conditions. It boils water faster than the MSR deluxe in windy conditions, and way more efficent I've been told.

@GrumpyGrunt 3 жыл бұрын

I was all set to get the Amicus cook set (with the 2-piece nesting pot/lid) when I caught the Windmaster on sale for the same price about this time last year. It's still on my list to try, but I love the Windmaster and glad I got it. I like that the Amicus has the stand arms attached to it. Stay well, Ernie.

@hypo345 3 жыл бұрын

Windmaster is an excellent stove, quicker and quieter than Amicus and the option of tri or quad pot stand. Recently purchased the Soto Fusion Trek remote stove and really like that as well.

@moorejl57 3 жыл бұрын

OK, this review earns my forgiveness about dissing the Aeropress Go in your last video :)

@patriciaribaric3409 3 жыл бұрын

I agree; four pot stands are better than three. I'm noticing less of these little hiking cooking gadgets are coming packaged in hard cases. Almost everything comes in a pouch. I wanted a windscreen packaged in a hard case which doubled the cost. I wonder if this covid thing has caused a shortage in that plastic?

@brenttesterman1198 3 жыл бұрын

Cuz U crazy, that's why! Great review, Happy Holidays.

@ironkid8836 Жыл бұрын

Got the amicus and river pot for 48 euros for the two .the pot buy itself was 38 and the stove was 40 so got a good deal on it

@aparecidomiranda6637 3 жыл бұрын

Ótimo vídeo Parabéns 👍👍🇧🇷

@LGSkywalker82 3 жыл бұрын

Straight to Daddys Christmas list for Santa lol

@GTFBITK Жыл бұрын

0:41 lmao

@jhippl 3 жыл бұрын

do i need one ... no. Will i get one .... yes. It looks a lot better than the cheap BRS ti stove that everyone loves with about the same weight. The only can top stove I have currently is the one in the orange box that everyone use to get.

@halabujioutdoors 3 жыл бұрын

Just clarify, weight of BRS 3000T is tiny bit less than an one oz.

@jandal8905 2 жыл бұрын

@@halabujioutdoors Yes, true. I have a BRS 3000-T and it weighs only 25g.

@hypo345 3 жыл бұрын

Have you checked out the Soto Windmaster, supposed to be slightly quicker and quite a bit quieter than Amacus. I can't make a personal comparison as I only have the Windmaster.

@seanparchem6722 3 жыл бұрын

What is the size difference between the arm support . The deluxe looks like it has a wider surface base area? even though the soto has 4 arms looks like to have a smaller surface area?

@swedishhiker 3 жыл бұрын

Wow I get notifications 6 days after posted. KZfaq you suck! Good video!

@Steve-hb4my 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. With everything.

@WeekendsOutsideFL Жыл бұрын

And Now at REI the Soto Amicus comes with a lovely pot set! Still $44!!!

@markcummings6856 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed it is.

@gringo3009 3 жыл бұрын

Good stuff!

@Motorep146 3 жыл бұрын

How about a comparison between the Olicamp Ion ti and the BRS3000? The BRS is a thru hiker favorite but there's no question they ripped off the Olicamp Ion design.

@jandal8905 2 жыл бұрын

Made by the same company, brother.

@thadeuisdeanlucas5491 3 жыл бұрын

Can I use the amicus for 1 hour cooking or maybe 2hr of cooking?

@hervue85 3 жыл бұрын

You bet but also depends on how big your fuel canisters are and how high of heat you use.

@charlespalmerii4299 3 жыл бұрын

Hi thank you for Video what fuel did you use for it ? thanks Charlie

@squirrel1179 2 жыл бұрын

Do you know if this stove will work with propane with an adapter?

@tomlucas4788 3 жыл бұрын

Do you know how it compares in height to the snow peak lite max? I watched your other recent rice video. Looking to replace the lite max with the Soto but wondering on the size

@busansanai 3 жыл бұрын

Someone mentioned that two big selling points of the Windmaster (vs other burners) is that its wind resistant but also..... Quiet. Can anyone confirm this? One reason I didn't buy the Amicus is because someone said Windmaster is quietest and most fuel efficient

@ashwinkantharaj1193 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Windmaster is much quieter than my pocketRocket and a $15 stove from amazon.

@nickprague1481 Жыл бұрын

I would not be surprised to discover that the piezo igniter is purchased by both companies from a third party.

@Casual_BackPacking 2 жыл бұрын

The soto has a Version that doesn't have the ignition button that's a bit lighter

@Casual_BackPacking 2 жыл бұрын

This is the best stove

@Mickster8614 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, no! Another stove review! It's OK, Ernie, despite your obsession, we enjoy your videos. Hope your cleanup is going well.

@s.fernandes7560 3 жыл бұрын

Think the Soto Windmaster is a beter comparison to the DeLuxe than the Amicus. In size and price

@jimschulz1112 3 жыл бұрын

Does the Soto Amicus have a pressure regulator built-in like the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe ?

@genelucky4002 3 жыл бұрын

No pressure regulator in Amicus.

@TrapMint Жыл бұрын

stupid question but, can you use msr canisters with it? does it matter what brand you use

@SpaceExplorer31 Жыл бұрын

Yes , all canisters

@1stRanger 10 ай бұрын

Amicus is a more compact version of SOTO own stove - Windmaster, while Pocket Rocket Deluxe is just a Windmaster rip-off.

@donaldpepera2928 Жыл бұрын

I bought an Amicus without ignitor and found an adapter valve to use lantern sized gas bottles and another valve to refill the lantern bottles from unguarded BBQ tanks. Rrrrr, I'm a pirate.

@huxley309 3 жыл бұрын

I have a pot coming with a similar heat exchanger to the Jetboil, should imagine it'll boil quicker and have better wind resistance. Glad I went with the Amicus, as the Windmaster is a bit big for some pots.

@PaleoHikerMD 3 жыл бұрын

You can get the Windmaster with 3 legged pot stand that works for small pots. I have to say I have loved the amicus for a while, but once I got the windmaster there really is no comparison. I'll be doing a windmaster vs amicus battle in the future!

@jochen5653 2 жыл бұрын

i got both as well and prefer te amicus for solo trips with small pots.. both great

@tomlucas4788 3 жыл бұрын

Will it fit in a toaks 750 with a canister?

@trackerfiend 3 жыл бұрын

Fits in my Toaks 750 along with a small fuel canister no problem.