I don't believe Linux users are superior to the users of other operating systems, but I'm firmly convinced Linux is superior to other operating systems!

@@tmbrwn Yeah, fair enough. I tend to be a bit more extreme than is really necessary! 🙂

Trash talking is what politicians and those wrestlers do. Coaches on the other hand, concern themselves with any areas that could be improved in the team they coach. Yes they do look at what the competition is doing right and use that to further improve their team. Often, trash talkers totally fail to see these strengths in the competition as they only focus on finding supposed faults. I am less concerned about competitors over taking linux and more concerned about forces that will work to turn linux into a mainstream OS with all those great aspects of linux that many of us love, such as the powerful command line, disappearing one day. I just bought a Pinephone, only to discover one of the OSes, had stripped away some of the USB serial terminal support. I found an open issue for it. The resolution was that the identified USB serial terminal would be re-added, but this was not a typical use case for a phone, so it was considered a one time fix. See how the focus of the developers is to turn the linux distro into one built for typical phone users. The whole point of having linux on the phone for me, was to be able to do what linux could do, on a small portable device. In my case, connect to a wide variety of microcontrollers. Currently, my Xiao nrf52840 sense works on my two Pi systems, but only the storage profile works on my Pinephone, not the serial. I gave this example just to show how easy it is for those great features in linux, to disappear while many of us are not in need of them, and may be impossible to bring back when we do one day have a use for them.

My guess is that the person in question havent worked with infrastructure, but only software development in an IDE? :D I have heard the exact same argument for likewise people. After 4 years of working full time on linux environments, albeit being forced to run ssh through a Window(s), I just completed the first part of a linux sysadmin cert.

I thought about expanding the whole "bash scripting" section of this video after I recorded it, but in the end I left it short and off-the-cuff. But absolutely, pipes and stdin/stdout are all extremely important elements that folks should learn!!

@@mainStream-user Not quite! MS-DOS has had piping and file redirection since version 2.0 from 1983. It was based on UNIX pipes/redir. Around this time Microsoft was working on Xenix, their own UNIX variant. Subsequent versions of OS/2 and Windows NT copied how DOS pipes worked to retain compatibility.

Pipes are uncommon with GUI apps but not impossible. Some Linux/BSD GUI editors like gedit and gvim will accept text from stdin, eg. uname -a | gedit - Many Linux/BSD apps will spit out various debugging info to stdout or stderr if you run them from the terminal. Technically this is possible in Windows GUI apps too using AttachConsole(), but it's a bit of an odd hack.

@@VeronicaExplains Yeah the whole idea of a tool chain on the command-line is an awesome Unixy type thing.

I often use command line tools such as grep, less, more, wc, etc. in Windows. There is a GNU port of most of them that works well, for most things.

Well said! And thank you!

Indeed, command line is extremely easy to document, and is extremely searchable. Most of us can search the web for exactly the task we have in mind. (Or dear I say, know how to use the command's own help functionality and man pages) Honestly for a GUI to do the same functionality it has to become a crazy maze which is helpful to no one. (It's possible to make use of better design for better GUI, but it would require far more resources than most teams have). There is a reason why when being asked for help linux guru's like to just paste a command that will solve the problem, as oppose to making a huge document with screenshots.

@@joshuapettus6973 The thing that drives me bonkers about manpages and help is that they are far too often devoid of any practical information. I've been using Imagemagick to "compress" images (convert PNGs to smaller JPGs or GIFs) and do some cropping, but the manpage for Imagemagick is useless and convert's manpage is only slightly better. You are REQUIRED to go online to get working, usable help. 'man convert' yields: -crop geometry cut out a rectangular region of the image Searching online gives me an actual useful command: convert -crop 640x480+200+100 image.png image.jpg will convert the image to a jpg and crop a 640x480 region of the png 100 pixels down and 200 pixels right from the top left corner of the png.

GUIs used to be discoverable. And then Apple invented iOS.

If the only things you use in the terminal are htop and some simple text editor, you are acceptable to me. In my opinion, avoiding those two is literally harder and less user friendly.

I remember upgrading from DOS 5 to 6.22. I got the full retail IBM box edition with all the floppy disks and 3 ring binders. Perhaps like you that is why I also love terminals. I also was introduced to Linux in the late 90's on Slackware and learned to compile my own kernels and would take advantage of multiple terminals.

@@Wandering_Horse DOS 6.22 with the "move" command. I remember that one that was big time! My first distro was Debian 2 in the late 90's for a CS course. I should have used Slackware. I feel like the dependency hell of dpkg at the time was more than I should have taken on with a 33.6 kbps modem.

@@Brian-qv1ir Haha, I had forgot about the hellscape of never ending dependencies! New users dont get to experience that forgone era of pain. I remember asking my mentor a question and his response was almost always 'it depends', I hated that answer. Then there was asking the email user groups for help, boy you had better have read the man page and did your research first otherwise you would get scolded with the dreaded 'RTFM!'. (Admittedly, in doing so you would most likely find the answer) So happy linux has largely moved past those dark days. New users today have no idea how much easier and mainstream Linux is nowadays. Cheers!

Lmao, starting with Arch Linux totally sounds like me after getting frustrated with Ubuntu

@@eloskowy4954 same here, but with mint. Never going back.

Lol

Thank you, Boris!!!

@@VeronicaExplains miss you on Twitter

Very good point👍

Which web browser do you use? I tend to stick with Lynx for the most part, but I'm sighted.

@@encycl07pedia- I use lynx at a console but rarely surf the web with Linux, I use it for my servers mostly. If I were surfing web on the desktop most things require Java-script so I would use Firefox/Iceweasel. W3m also isn't bad under Emacs I am told

I've thought quite a bit about it! I have algorithm-related concerns about diving into COBOL discussions, but I might dip my toe in the water with a "how to try COBOL with Gnucobol" at some point down the road. If it doesn't completely tank, I could imagine doing a few more practical examples. (Exploring IBM stuff would also be important!) We need more COBOL devs!

@@VeronicaExplains i second that request

THANK YOU! It's so helpful for the channel- every bit of merch brings me one step closer to taking a day off to edit every now and again! :)

Hey now, no editor shaming!

GUIs don’t scale.

It was fun getting it working!

@@VeronicaExplains It was an old version of vi, I probably got it from Aminet. I had a A1000 running Amiga OS 1.3 plus a Sidecard sharing a huge 10 megabytes HD with the MS-DOS side.

Did you ever find out how to use ssh from an ereader? I'd also like to know.