Is This Any Good In 2020?? |M-Audio Keystation 49e|

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#ThrowbackThursdays..Today we will take a look at the classic #Keystation49e By #MAudio!
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0:00 - Introduction
1:25 - Unboxing and First Impressions
4:52 - Keybed Feel
5:39 - Comparison to The New Keystation
7:00 - Playing it + Thoughts & Recommendations
10:30 - Conclusion
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@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын

I want to keep #ThrowbackThursdays Going! Let me know what Old gear you'd like to see me cover!

@fbm6969 3 жыл бұрын

Keys yellow because of the oxidative effect on the material the keys are made of: acrylic plastic and polycarbonate. UV light catalyses the reaction. Some of it can be prevented with a keyboard cover/ avoiding sunlight, and some people use a high grit emery cloth (100 grit or higher) to remove surfance oxidation sometimes.

@chintimin 3 жыл бұрын

specifically, on the flame retardant chemical in them.

@mississippimeatloaf1637 Жыл бұрын

I don't mind it when the keys turn yellow, I think it adds a certain charm to the board

@GrizzlyThatHawk 3 жыл бұрын

I have had this keyboard since it came out and it still works just as good as the day I got it. It's literally sitting next to me and gets used every track I make. It's basic but it works!

@thomassamuelmusic7485 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had my key station 49e since 2007. Works great!

@HaroldJohnson Жыл бұрын

Second of your videos I’ve watched. Great information, John. Still trying to decide which controller to go with and your vids are very helpful.

@HaroldJohnson Жыл бұрын

Second of your videos I’ve watched. Great information, John. Still trying to decide which controller to go with.

@GPrice-mg8mi 3 жыл бұрын

Still have this OG! Works with any program. My son loves it almost as much as the Alesis

@CAGEDENT1 2 жыл бұрын

Just snagged this the other day can't wait to incorporate it into my studio gear

@edrumsense 3 жыл бұрын

That was one of my firsts keybs, I bough it used with key damage, fixed it and sold it more expensive, with that money I got a damaged Alesis Q49, fixed it and sold it more expensive, 2 weeks ago I got a new Nektar LX61+ at a discount for cyber day xD.... I'm SOOOO happy with this keyb 2:20 The yellow color is because the keys are made of polymer, and those kind of "plastics" have a hard time under UV light (like natural day light reaching your room) The problem with that Keystation keyb is that the keys are hold in place via a thin plastic bridge that is screwed to the base of the keybed, and over time, that bridge tends to break, I really don't recommend this keyboard if you plan to keep it for many years. Other keyboards Like the Alesis Q49 have a really good keybed and the keys are hold in position via strong springs.

@orderd29 3 жыл бұрын

Had one for years then couldn't get into home recording. Dug it out to try again during lockdown and am really appreciating a great piece of kit. Lots of YT videos don't go into the 'advanced features' mode. Download a PDF manual and, along with multiple other things, the issues with velocity curve are eliminated. Thanks for a great video.

@AngelaGreco 2 жыл бұрын

How did you fix your velocity if you don't mind me asking?

@brandoncrenshaw 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the keystation was my first midi board, that semi weight feel never gets old

@Kellard_27 3 жыл бұрын

mine feels so old 😂 some keys already have weird velocity sensitivity and it now sounds too much *clicky clacky*

@mowburnt 3 жыл бұрын

Once the key station 49e got me hooked I bought a prokeys 88 off ebay (£30!) . Great ways to learn

@silviomp 3 жыл бұрын

All I needed to know. Thanks a lot!!

@PeterPrism 3 жыл бұрын

This basic beast of burden is a must! Tnx bro greetings from Italy

@deanzamusic 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this review!

@Yhuntermusic 3 жыл бұрын

Yessir rev!! Video optics on point!!!

@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын

Yaahn Hunter Jr thanks rev! 🙌🏾

@PhO3NiX96 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks to you I avoided wasting my money on the new mk3 model lol. Cheers (I want the springy feeling of the 49e)

@markallisonmc 2 жыл бұрын

My dad was the injection molding industry for 30 years the yellowing is from UV light as others mentioned. The irony is there is an additive they can put with the resin to prevent the yellowing it would cost pennies per keyboard but they don’t care to spend the money.

@bohdibrass4022 3 жыл бұрын

just got one for 10 bucks off a goodwill auction. took it apart and cleaned it with DEOXIT (miracle in a can) and works just fine plugging it into my iMac with a usb and running through garageband

@7775Kevin 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had one forever. Still works but yeah those keys are not my favorite. I keep it around anyway. Thanks for reviewing it!

@Iskazz13 3 жыл бұрын

Most piano players really enjoy my old MAudio Keystation Pro 88 they like the feel ( but it is noisy). I was able to work with the controller but it was a challenge.

@rlbink2498 2 жыл бұрын

Heh! Proud user - bought this years ago! Still works today although UV light came to visit and the keys have yellowed.

@peppermintpig974 2 жыл бұрын

Just bought one at a thrift store for $25. Drivers are online for a variety of different older operating systems as well.

@cdoj_productionzz5850 2 жыл бұрын

at 7:00 he was playing that one progression from No reason to fear by JJ Hairston!

@aviduser1961 Жыл бұрын

I still have my M-Audio Keystation 49e and it works great with my new Mac Studio Max and GarageBand. It connects via USB A.

@marcm.official 11 күн бұрын

hey man, i found a good deal off of this one, the 49ES and the alesis q49, which one should i be picking off? both similar prices but the alesis is cheaper..

@tyler234567890 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Im getting one

@DjGrzywa 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I used to smoke cigarettes and thought the keys had turned yellow from cigarettes, but once I polished the keys with window cleaner, they never turned yellow again. Now I have not smoke for three years but the keys are still white and I only cleaned them once 6 years ago. Since then, I only vacuum from time to time.

@fortheloveofnoise 2 жыл бұрын

Just got one with yellow keys and missing the volume cap for 10 bucks at Goodwill....here is hoping it works. I don't even see it listed with the legacy products on M-Audio's website.

@alexlozano856 3 жыл бұрын

just picked one up on offer up today for $25 and it came with a M-audio sustain pedal and power supply

@richermorin 2 жыл бұрын

tks for your help

@kishascape 2 жыл бұрын

Nice I have the radium 49. Haven’t been able to use it forever because I’m on Linux now so it’s a pain in the ass to figure out.

@ASDFGH1234558 3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, enjoy your reviews! I currently have a M-Audio 49 Keystation but I am considering getting an Arturia KeyLab Essential 61 since it has so many features and great software. My only concern is how the keys feel compared to the Keystation. Which keybed would you say you prefer between the two?

@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын

Keystation is one of my all time favorite feels on a controller...but the Keylab essential is a great board...it’s a decent feel...but you do get the benefit of better software and more control options

@nowhereman9928 2 жыл бұрын

I still have and use one! Great video by the way... * I'm working on a Windows 10 machine, with FL Studio and related plugins and it works like a charm! Sometimes, if it doesn't immediately work, you just go into the settings of your DAW and reactivate it again -or just turn it off and on once more. That usually works!

@charlesshaw6239 2 жыл бұрын

Windows doesn't recognize my device when i go to device manager. How do you get it to work on windows 10. Im using Studio one

@nowhereman9928 2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesshaw6239 Hi, Windows 10 actually should recognize your device, regardless of which type of DAW you're using. Try hooking it up and switch on/off a few times -or hook it up, go to your DAW control panel and see if there is something in the settings that stops or keeps it from seeing it. For now that's the only thing I can think of really. Personally I'm using Fruity Loops and there's sometimes a problem if a few settings in FL's control panel are not right or fully switched on.

@leovaskey1782 8 ай бұрын

Does it use driver for windows

@nowhereman9928 8 ай бұрын

@@leovaskey1782 Not for Windows 10, it recognizes the device automatically

@mathiasp. 2 жыл бұрын

I got one used for free today and yes, them white Keys are yellow. But: The Volume Knob is still attached. Yeah! Now i'm try'n to get it runnin'. As i power it up, the blue LEDs light up. But did not check any sounds out... well at least it needs another source since it has not a built in speaker.. and i do not know if all them keys work.. so wish me luck with that.. thx for the first information on that device. It helped.😊👍

@syncMixer 3 жыл бұрын

I have one of these. It shows up in my DAW in Windows but it doesn't seem to transmit MIDI.

@ecoagricol65 2 ай бұрын

I have keystation 61 es and still using this but i am not in music bussines just a hobby for me.

@gulded68 2 жыл бұрын

hey!.. i just bought this off craigslist to use with my ipad … unfortunately, the keys will not trigger sound…BUT i thought i noticed you accessing the Keystation 49e thru the 5 pin “DIN” connection… could that be what will ease my disappointment with the M audio keystation 49e..?

@nickdixon-lk2qz Ай бұрын

The key surface has too much traction. The best thing to do is to take the keyboard apart and sand each key with fine sand paper (grade 240 works well). Work the full length of the key to create a fine grain effect, same on the black keys, here though sand the sides also. Then buff with kitchen roll to finish. I can now glide around the keys much easier.

@amundaker871 3 жыл бұрын

I have this keyboard, but cant get it to work. What software do i need to run this with FL studio?

@sophiamurillo9370 Жыл бұрын

Hello what plug do you use to connect to ipad?

@michaelmattson3515 3 жыл бұрын

I have one, it’s ok. I cleaned the the pitch & mod wheels because they got gummy from age. I use rubbing alcohol. I got it from a friend for free. Wish it had 5 din midi out.

@toddshannon2056 Жыл бұрын

I just bought a key station 49es off of marketplace. I'm really struggling to find a simple way to just play sounds. I'm hoping your videos will help.

@Foxiesmilez Жыл бұрын

please can i as well know when and how you are able to get sounds?? i have same issue too

@uhoh007 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet!

@linaingebretsen2708 2 жыл бұрын

I recently bought one of these but when I tried to install the recommended software Expand its not working with MacOS Monterey 12.2. do you know how to make it work?

@dilangraf3133 3 жыл бұрын

Hey:) I have the same Keystation but when i plug it in (USB like in the video) i can't here a sound..:/ although it shows its connected.. i guess its broken?

@coolelectronics1759 3 жыл бұрын

would you recommend this studio appliance for recording in basslines, organ, synths and some piano parts into fl studio? Is it still compatible with windows7 and windows10 and fl?

@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын

Yes and yes

@BlueJazzBoyNZ 5 ай бұрын

Picked up a ..49 from a charity shop 2024 for pennies Scoping out what it can do. No yellow keys

@franch6861 2 жыл бұрын

can i make a question, what's the name of the program you use on pc/i pad/smartphone?

@laptopleon6386 3 жыл бұрын

The keys turn yellow from sunlight. I have one that used to be with the right end in direct sunlight, indoors, and that end is very yellow while the rest is still white.

@Junior-zp2yr 3 жыл бұрын

Mine are yellow but it hasn’t been in the sun in a while it started to get yellow inside my case

@amandaj9312 2 жыл бұрын

Is the keystation 49 ll still good for the os 11? It’s on but no audio or signal

@sesa2984 4 ай бұрын

Hey, I work at a food pantry thats funded by a thrift store, and I get first dibs at the donations (most of which ain't clothes gets thrown out by the old ladies who don't know what it is!) One I snagged one of these IN THE BOX today, it had a little yellowing on account of its age, but it was solid and had volume. Now, I'm all about hardware, I just like it. Love knobs and faders man. Plus I aint got a good computer. Do you know of any small, cheapish hardware synths I could get started on (pref poly)? I have a ton of rackmount effects and guitar pedals I could toy around with, I just need the sound generator and I'm new to synths. (I'm open to hearing about a software alternative too...I just want to have a solid piece of equipment at some point...even if its a cheap kinda starter set)

@markmaqe1771 2 жыл бұрын

can someone help me? i use fl studio (im new to all this music making) and i can only get the pitch wheels to work, not all the keys. do i have to download something if so, what? (got the keyboad from a friend)

@drampadreg1386 3 жыл бұрын

I got my 88es in 2006, and it's still mint, no yellow. But no drivers for win 10 and my interface needs win 10 . You can glue a penny or something to the undersides of the keys and the actin gets much nicer too. I'm hoping windows has a driver that will make it compatible, but I'm not getting my hopes up. But it was the best deal for the money when you ain't got any. The new one is 140% more, but I'm sure it's nicer with hammer action etc.

@hijadbread 3 жыл бұрын

I have the same problem with using windows 10 any solution for use with FL studios?

@Schiessltom 2 жыл бұрын

the main question is: Is it still compartible with actual versions of Windows???

@IMCcanTWEESTED 2 жыл бұрын

I got mine in 2002 at Guitar Center, San Marcos.

@Aleluyaproducciones Жыл бұрын

How do I get the drivers for these, please?

@adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm on Windows, and just bought one of theses Keystation 49e. It's class compliant, meaning you just plug it in and it works and don't need specific drivers, but for those who wan't the specific drivers anyway they can still be found on the M-Audio website. I was wondering... in the user manual, it says that it has channel aftertouch... but has it really channel atertouch when pressing strongly the keys (if so mine does'nt work) or is it that the channel aftertouch CC messages are transmitted with the volume slider while in some mode not desccribed in the manual (some midi controller like the Alesis Q49 say that they have channel aftertouch... but in fact send "aftertouch" messages with a slider and not the keys) ???

@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын

Right it’s with the mod wheel and not with the keys..,so it’s not really aftertouch

@adwarfsittingonagiantsshoulder 3 жыл бұрын

@@Johnmike Thanks for the reply !

@titobiogunbodede9990 Жыл бұрын

How do I get the drivers for these please?

@bear111 8 ай бұрын

yoooo whats the beat at the start?

@bobbythompson7260 3 жыл бұрын

I just got a KeyRig 49 + $20 for my launchkey mini mk1 which i wasn't liking at all. Then I bought a Novation 37SL one owner for $80. Good day for me. Do you know which other maudio unit is the same as my keyrig 49? this 49e you are showing is a little thicker, but they both share this minimal button setup.

@bobbythompson7260 3 жыл бұрын

Ok, mine might be a copy of a keystation 49es.

@bobbythompson7260 3 жыл бұрын

keystation 49es mk2 possibly according to the best buy old page i found. the mk3 is black now.

@davesaunders7457 3 жыл бұрын

most m-audio and akai products work straight out of the box with windows

@biggerpictures 3 жыл бұрын

Roland claims that they have the first USB midi controller. So maybe a throwback on the Roland pc-300 USB? or any roland midi keyboard for that matter :) Are they class compliant? I am looking for something to work with an old iPad but also to control my Roland JD-Xi so MIDI OUT is a must. Decent action, not interested in Knobs and Pads. Thanks

@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын

I’ll check that one out!

@biggerpictures 3 жыл бұрын

@@Johnmike Thanks bro, love your videos by the way. A bit obsessed with keyboards myself even if i'm a guitarist originally :) Love my JD-Xi, like my novation launchkey 49 for looping ableton, sold my Oxygen because of terrible integration with Logic. My Impact LX25+ is good for control but the keybed is too deep for me. If i want to play piano feel, i have an NP-12 or a Donner 88 key for that. Quite hard to play fast funky bass lines with it. Oh i forgot im also obsessed with synth bass :) I use Ableton Live and Logic. Recently into dawless, hence the thought of a midi keyboard to control an ipad or my JD-Xi. Pondering on the Roland A49 vs the A500-pro. Love the portability of the A49but only usb powered, so i cant control a MIDI keyboard. Do you happen to know/have these 2? Thanks

@Ruido777 Жыл бұрын

🤘

@englishcool247 2 жыл бұрын

thanks player!

@englishcool247 2 жыл бұрын

I was about to buy one for $80 but the minute you said it might not work with my OS....I decided to hold back...I'm in El Salvador they over price everything.....Happy Friday...I subsrcibed

@Lucrativecris 3 жыл бұрын

This midi doesn't need any drivers it connects automatically

@713donblvd 3 жыл бұрын

It should work with windows cuz my 1984 casio keyboard works midi in windows

@Fixinit1 3 жыл бұрын

Windows supports class compliant devices as well, so it should just work on Windows as well!

@jordanaction 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly it doesn't. I saw this video and bought a used keystation. Plugged it into my windows 10 pc and it doesn't recognize. I've been troubleshooting for hours with no luck. I might be out 50 bucks. I don't recommend this for windows.

@AdamCully 3 жыл бұрын

@@jordanaction I just got one myself. It works okay on Windows 10 for me. Hopefully you can get it working. I was having a problem for about 5 minutes until I switched USB ports.

@jordanaction 3 жыл бұрын

I got a midi to usb cable to make it work. The class compliance is a joke in this case. Perhaps you have a slightly different model. I'm not alone in this struggle.

@llman03 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they do turn yellow. All facts about the M Audio.

@TAKprod 3 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know how to get your laptop to read this with windows 10? I got mine probably 10 years ago and I’m trying to set it up again, but the disk it came with errors on install because it’s only good up to windows 8. And my computer just doesn’t recognize the keyboard at all. Thanks in advance if anyone can help!!

@taylorwarren8978 3 жыл бұрын

Have you found any answers? I’m also trying the same thing it’s quite frustrating

@TAKprod 3 жыл бұрын

@@taylorwarren8978 I’m actually quite embarrassed to admit what my problem was... there’s a small hidden power switch above the cable output that I didn’t have flipped 😅

@producedbywy 3 жыл бұрын

@@TAKprod is it working now?

@amygonzalez4603 3 жыл бұрын

how do we make it play music? and connect it to my computer? please help

@NostalgiaJ 2 жыл бұрын

It has no sounds so you would have to find a program ( stand-alone or plug-in) and use a midi to usb cord to the computer.

@amygonzalez4603 2 жыл бұрын

@@NostalgiaJ what time of program ?

@badfish41969 2 жыл бұрын

@@amygonzalez4603 get a daw like garage band or cake walk

@Anna-yv7zm 3 жыл бұрын

is it possible to use just with an external powe source (no computer)?

@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it has a power adapter and midi out

@Anna-yv7zm 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your response! I just bought one second hand and it has a power supply and it lights up when I plug it in but gives no sound... There’s no speaker in the keyboard?

@coolelectronics1759 3 жыл бұрын

@@Anna-yv7zm nope. Its like your xbox or playstation controller, it just tells a synth brain or pc acting as the sound brain, what to do.

@713donblvd 3 жыл бұрын

You can pick one of those up for bout 40 bucks now

@benjaminm.81 2 жыл бұрын

Class compliant devices like this work perfectly fine under Windows, but also Windows has hugely better backwards compatibility compared to macOS. Windows 7 drivers work in Windows 10. In terms of plugins, you'll literally never be screwed by an OS update - I can still use plugins that haven't been updated in a decade or more with zero issues.

@MicksLife Жыл бұрын

I’m having trouble finding a driver for windows 10. Would a win7 work fine? 😊

@benjaminm.81 Жыл бұрын

@@MicksLife Driver for what, a Keystation? The Keystation (NOT the Keyrig) is class-compliant, meaning you don't need a driver - you just have to plug it in and it'll work. For everything else, if there's a Windows 7 driver it should work in Windows 10, too.

@MicksLife Жыл бұрын

@@benjaminm.81 ah ok, it just says unrecognised midi device, can’t use in cakewalk or any other DAWS. Spent all day trying to get it to work to no avail. My newer key station works fine but needed bigger keys. Thanks for that, probably an issue with it

@kyleexten9998 3 жыл бұрын

Found one at goodwill today for 9 bucks

@juancarlos2470 3 жыл бұрын

Can I use this one for Ableton Live?

@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын

Juan Carlos yes

@juancarlos2470 3 жыл бұрын

@@Johnmike thank you a lot buddy! im gonna suscribe your chanel you my last question is if it works with Ableton Live 10 too

@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын

Juan Carlos Ríos Cortés he’s it should

@donnas62 Жыл бұрын

works fine with windows 10pro

@drewlokerKHS 8 ай бұрын

What app do you use with Windows to use this keyboard?

@gin147 3 жыл бұрын

Try 2003 or 2004 I know because I owned one brand new from Sam ash

@Johnmike 3 жыл бұрын

Dang!

@gin147 3 жыл бұрын

@@Johnmike yea!!!That's why when you said the year you said I said no way!!!I just gave it away to a coworker and you are right about the yellow staining and the fader broke with ease