Hard sleeper in the 1980s was an amazing experience. 40 hours was my longest.

Amen brother 🙏🏻

@@NonstopEurotrip Jai shree Ram

​@@priyadarshi4357Jai Shri Ram and amen

That's my plan for 2024!

It has this line planned for so long that it is a meme for lot of Brazilians

which will be never!!

they live by procrastination theory. wait for another 28 years.

south america's rail systems are... sad. most were dismantled with right wing dictatorships that strongly favoured the trucking/bus industry. the fastest train in south america is chile's central rail line capable of 160km/h. we use chinese trains

The PRC has more space to build in the countryside and if a town needs to be removed in order to build a high speed line it's a lot easier to do so! Such is progress. : )

Amen 🙌🏻

PRC also is a dictatorship and can do as and when it wills. Moreover, everyday Fill own no owndom technically and have their owndom on lease. The PRC regularly does as it wills where the everyday Burgher is concerned. Yes, it is come leaps and bounds but at what cost and intellectual property Theft at the same time!

Technology is learnt and transferred and improved in the entire human history and this is just normal. Guess from who did Japanese learn to make cars and heavy machineries. And from who did Americans learn to make looming machines (although it’s a bad example as Americans did STEAL the technology from the Brits, and that guy is still considered a national hero till this day.). It happens all the time. The technology that China acquired was legitimately transferred , as part of the expensive deal that Chinese has paid for. Otherwise you would have heard a major dispute on this in WTO already. This deal was signed after China joined the WTO for a few years, and keeping your reputation and your end of the deals is very important because it keeps the expenses of such future deals low and such future negotiations easy. Reputation is a worthy long term investment, especially for a country. As a country cant scam you once and just disappear. Again, Nobody would reinvent 4 wheels just to design their own cars. Simple as that. Nothing special to be particularly “remembered “ here. This happens all the time and everywhere.

@@jinniwind very sensible ,, and clear note ,

😂😂😂

Cool, thanks! I love them too 🤩

Wow lucky me 🍀😁

Happy to see him having CRH380AL-2541 that reached 486kmh.

As mentioned in the video

I don't agree tbh, this train is built much better, maybe because of it's heritage?

@@NonstopEurotrip It isn't built "much better". More or less the same as any other CRH/CR train in terms of build quality. It's a bit older though than the one you took previously.

@@NonstopEurotrip The best train in China now is the Fuxing series, while the CRH380 series is quite old

the CRH series have a higher running cost and maintenance cost compared to the Fuxing series. that's why we say the Fuxing series is better(at least in operator‘s view). from passasenger's view it varies according to personal preference🥴@@NonstopEurotrip

As mentioned in the video

"From the initial introduction of complete vehicles to the introduction of parts and components for domestic assembly, and then to the transfer of production technology for domestic manufacturing, " From what I know, this statement is incorrect. So call technology transfer is the technology to putting thing together. not the technology to make the each component parts When negotiating about technology transfer, for one example, the Chinese side asking the technology to make the wheels, the 西門子 side said we 西門子 don't produce the wheels, 西門子 bought wheels form other German company. A relatively high position guy from Chinese Rail Ministry said it in a HRA documentary. At that time, Chinese Company only can produce wheels for run on less than 200 KM/H, and still working on the > 250 KM/H version. For the wheels, China have to buy it from Germany.

You should!

Happy new year to you too 🎉

Now they produce flipflops

Good

@@fp3359nope their better

Indonesia high speed train is using the CR400 series which running at standard 350 km/hour

Same to you 😁

Happy new year!! Yeah the announcements are sometimes quite funny or passive aggressive lol 😂

Same to you! And thank you 😊

@@NonstopEurotrip please can you review the new swr class 701 train please

Thank you! You too!

🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

The main reason why all CRH380 series Harmony trains' speed were reduced to 300km/h was because of a major train collision in Wenzhou back in around mid-2011. That train accident involved a CRH1 and a CRH2 trains, both with operating speed of up to 250km/h but down to max 200km/h after that accident, which collided on a viaduct in Wenzhou and killed around 40 people. The train accident was confirmed to have been caused by signal failure. Since that time the government decided to restrict the operating speed of all CRH trains, known as Harmony trains, in order to improve safety and efficiency of the train until further notice. CRH380 series trains, while never involved in any major accidents, still have to lower their top speeds from 350km/h to 300km/h for the same reason. Nevertheless these high-speed trains are so good both inside and outside.

problem is that CRH380A is not standalized and it is difficult to do double 8-carbin train to do 16 cabins with other models, which is Fuxing is doing

你的说法是错误的。和谐号降速的主要原因是它的技术并不能支撑长时间以350公里的速度行驶，成本高消耗大，安全性也不足。这些问题到复兴号才解决，复兴号的性能优于所有和谐号列车。

@@stefanosong9314 There is a 16-car version known as CRH380AL and CRH380BL so they can make long trains.

@@davidwong6682 I know they have BL and AL but the Fuxin series can do two 8 cabins no matter if they are same type

I mean, that's one interpretation...

@@NonstopEurotrip Technology transfer per contract's T&Cs - It is what it is ! The Japs, Germans & French at the time UNDERESTIMATED the Chinese' ability & capacity to learn, absorb & apply what tech was transferred to them. Copying the Chinese strategy, that's what India is demanding from Japan for the current under-construction India's 1st HSR line. Let's see how successful is India going to be in developing their own HSR system post-construction and how much tech is Japan going to transfer given their experience with China.

The Wassenaar Arrangement banned the transfer of EMU technology with speeds higher than 250 km/h to China. It has nothing to do with foreign manufacturers after the CRH350 series and onwards.

Thank you! You too!

Happy new year!

Thanks Luke, to you too!

Thank you! Keep going and you'll be on 100k one day 🤓

I know right, how lucky!

So nice of you ☺️

Why would you call a stolen and copied technology a "homegrown"?

​@@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter So, almost all Japanese culture and tech came from China. Paper, gunpowder, silk, food, written language, porcelain, kites, guns. Were these stolen too? The Europeans got tech from China early on too. Are you going to always say it's stolen tech? YOU KNOW THAT CHINA HAS SURPASSED YOU WHITE'S, RIGHT?

Technology from Bombardier (CRH1), Kawasaki (CRH2), Siemens (CRH3) and Alstom (CRH5, CRH380D) were all legally transferred to China, I suggest looking up the definition of stealing vs. technology transfer. I was merely referring to the author's word choice in his other video@@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter

Wow amazing luck 🤞🏻

​@@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter coz technology is copied everywhere. look at Boeing consisting of parts from 50 countries. look at USA who has a history of stealing European Tech

Absolutely, totally agree!

Thank you very much!

Happy new year! I use HitFilm Pro

Good point!

Thanks 🤗

I don't know, what happened?

@@NonstopEurotrip Have not seen his last video from China?

@@NSFx1000 Wow he's really angry with someone 👀

yes there are sleeper highspeed trains in china

那应该是动车，不是高铁

Yes there are!

Yes there are. For example the Shanghai-shenzhen high speed sleepers travels ~1600km in about 10 hours overnight.

@@xiaoshuoyao3565 那是动车，平原地区，时速在250公里以下。您买票应该看看是G开头的才是高铁，D开头的是动车。

Thanks

It's so clean !

I know right, so lucky!

The CCTV would soon find them...

Maybe when I'm richer 😆

if he waits for a few more seconds, actually English version will show up

那是surface color。没显示全

I waited a minute, and there was no English

@@NonstopEurotrip ok weird....

@@kind03cn That was what I already thought that after a short time it would change into English. But maybe the system had a problem that day.

This is my question precisely. Did China buy the technology or bought the trains and reverse engineered them? No judgement either way!

It's debatable 🙃

First of all, the basic sciences are already out there and published. ! And, they were already proven by prior German, British or American experimentations that they worked. So, what’s so difficult to just copy based on proven science and come out with a better version even without knowing the original designs? In fact, not seeing the original should be an advantage. They’re not biased to a specific design, and serendipity is usually how breakthrough in science is discovered . . . .especially when you have all the right parts available for assembly. Yes, the Japanese and the Europeans had the early start on high speed rail, but within ten years, China was able to develop their own indigenous version and at the same time built 40,000 kilometers of these HSR trains. This was through copying and implementation that they learned and progressed. The Chinese have a long history of education. It is this discipline that makes copying so easy.

@@MohammedKumar-si4ec thats not how things work.

@@NonstopEurotrip Yes, but is the title claim still incorrect? Nicely diplomatic update... 😉

Happy new year 🎊

It was cloudy and raining the whole time I was there 🤓🙃

Ah... but there are no Olympics this year, so no need to arrange blue skies for the camera!

So did I, and?

Yes, France is doing very well, and China, as a former backward country, has also developed very well. This is a good thing, I don't understand why you have to fight against everything.

Because it's exactly the same 👀

@@NonstopEurotrip so it's just your speculation . They actually look very different., google the pictures again if you would.

@@Glory-to-God. Let's just agree to disagree. I've been on both and they are the same.

Thanks Annabel! There will be lots more of Europe coming up soon, and in 2024. Regards a lot trip back to the UK, I hope to do this one day!

Thanks Luke, I appreciate that ☺️

Or 400 😍😍😍

This model is produced by Bombardier in China and is called crh380d.

But the Zefiro's first commercial operation is in China tho? Look up CRH1E CRH380D and CRH1E-NG

Imagine if people learn to write km/h correctly.

same thing @@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter

It sure is!!

Not really, and it takes 5 mins max

Chinese don't want any trouble maker.

Yes, such checks are necessary in China because many millions of people are forbidden from travelling by high-speed train or flights and need to be kept out of the station -- that's why there's no ticket office either, but the security check helps ensure no-one is travelling on someone else's ticket.

yes all trains run on left in China

Debtors who have been tried by the courts according to Chinese law cannot fly, take high-speed rail, or stay in five-star hotels.

​@@dw620①安检就是为了安全，没有别的原因。②售票处是有的，去售票处买票的人少是因为大家都通过app买票了，用身份证或者扫二维码就能进站上车。

China makes the rules!

You do in Spain 😆

@@NonstopEurotrip really??

Yes, it's certainly a great system!

An important and critical success factor for the high speed rail is dedicated rail tracks for high speed use only. In Germany, Netherlands and Belgium high speed rolling stock often have to share tracks with slower rolling stock which undermines the potential of high speed rail. The track sharing is for many reasons which is great to see that China and Japan provided a network for high speed only.

Let's go, faster trains 😁

I can't wait to try it 😁

As mentioned in the video

👋🏻👋👋🏻

It could be argued 🙂

Crazy right!!!

I'll leave that to the many other people doing America lol

@@NonstopEurotrip😂

It's too busy giving away $$$ to Ukraine & Israel. It concerns more about other countries than its own.

Lol

Me too 😄

Hmm that's not a great argument tbh

Neat!. China has about 150 cities from 1 to 30 million people. China is big. Chongqing over 30 million.

In China, that's consider a town.

As mentioned in the video

Because the high-speed rail network can drive the economic development of the surrounding towns and cities, and the train capacity is huge, it can meet the transportation needs caused by China's large population.

Connecting the nation with high-speed trains is what every country needs to do!!

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About that tech deal, honestly the best place we can ask is the factory that makes the shinkansen trains.. though it is possible that: yes it was a tech deal, through someone that defected from japan working for the shinkansen factory... the chinese are still also trying to get the chinook designs aswel wich they almost got from a south korean defector whom got caught in time..

It was the same as anywhere else lol 😂

@@NonstopEurotrip tbf as expected

Get off my train 😆😆😆

I know, right?

豆腐是中国的， 不是你这些外国人能用的词

Tofu is Chinese, not a word you foreigner can use

中国到处都是豆腐渣工程，您还来中国吗？您怎么这么不要脸呢？

臭不要脸的狗东西，不要来中国！！！

Have fun!

It's absolutely fine with a fully integrated metro, like they all have. And it can be built cheaper and faster!!

@@NonstopEurotrip I lived in Shenzhen. We have a traditional train station, or a "Shenzhen north station" That has high speed rail service. To go to Guangzhou, we used to be able to take a intercity train in downtown, and straight to Guangzhou downtown. That train takes 2 hours. Now, with high speed rail, it takes around 1 hour. However, because the train doesn't stop in city center, I will need to take a 40 minutes metro ride to get to the HSR station, take the HSR to go to Guangzhou South Station, and take another 30 minutes metro ride to actually go to Guangzhou's city center itself. If you do the math, yes it is actually slower and I had to make 2 transfers. This is further compounded by the fact that HSR in China don't have strict noise restrictions compared to Japan, therefore no one want to make any sort of transit oriented development around the HSR station. Instead, HSR station fronts are taken by massive plazas, that serves very little practical purposes, or serve as a direct connection to the airport (Like Shanghai Hongqiao) Japan's HSR is constructed very carefully with very rigorous study on its viability (construction cost vs economical benefits vs environmental cost), even if the line falls a bit short in terms of profitability (e.g. the Nishi Kyushu Shinkansen), they would still construct it given its massive benefits. Meanwhile, China's HSR approach is "fuck it just build it and hope for the best". The vast majority of the HSR network is redundant and provides very little benefits to the local community. This is coming from someone that has lived in China for 17 years, and witnessed its HSR boom. China's HSR feels more like a vanity project, just so that it could brag that it has the highest service speed and lengthiest in the world. Whether it actually make sense to build to such scale, the service it provides, and its competitiveness against air travel, remains subpar in my opinion. I remember that they artificially limit speed on CRH3 and CRH 380 trains so that it makes the Fuxing Hao trains "looks better", despite having similar design speed. I also had to wait for 20 minutes (!) a few times so that a faster train can pass through, where in Japan it is at most 3 - 5 minutes. Not to mention safety. China had few major crashes that had killed passengers, Railway workers and train conductors. The most notorious one is the Wenzhou train accident in 2010. They had an accident as recent as 2022, where a landslide caused a train to derail and kill the conductor. Sorry for this super uber long rant, but I really don't like how westerners brainlessly want to replicate China's HSR, without understanding its issues and implications, often just caught by the fact that "Oh it has the most" or "Oh it runs at 350". Those are honestly irrelevant. Maybe China's HSR worked for China (And that's a huge maybe, we'll see), but I don't think it should be replicated everywhere else.

There are five stations in Shenzhen. They are located in different areas, Luohu, Futian, Longgang Buji, Longhua North Station, Nanshan West Station, and there are also five stations in Guangzhou. It seems reasonable according to the current design. As for your comment that travel is inconvenient, it depends on your destination. People generally choose the nearest station to travel, for example, you live in Longhua district, then you go to the North railway Station is very convenient. By 2022, the population of Guangzhou will exceed 18 million and that of Shenzhen will exceed 17 million. That's more people than in many countries combined. As you said, it is convenient for people to save time by building stations in the center of the city like in Japan, so the question is? How do you make it so that everyone in a city of more than 10 million people can enjoy the convenience that you're talking about? I don't think it's possible, that's why Shenzhen and Guangzhou have five stations in different districts. In addition, the shape of Japanese and Chinese territory is different, and their operation plan is not suitable for China. In order to achieve your convenience, the population of the area must not exceed one million. Because it would only be enough to build a station.

@@sbeve7445有部分同意你的话，有部分明显不同意，中国建高铁不放在市中心是有些依据的，是期望通过高铁的作用建新城，而且大城市往往高铁搭配了地铁这类毛细血管交通连接，很多高铁站慢慢都发展成了城区了，比如上海虹桥，成都东站，重庆沙坪坝之类的，倒是很多小城市的高铁站什么北东西南的离市区十万八千里远，还没地铁。此外你忽略了中国的人口体量和面积，还有春运之类的超大的人口短时间移动的需求，种种现实情况中国就不可能做到小而美的在市中心建一个高铁站，高铁站的安检还有巨大的站前广场也是有前车之鉴而这么设计的，相反地铁的安检我才觉得是形同虚设，想带危险物品进地铁太容易了，那些栏杆根本就阻碍不了，找个人顺手递一下就行了，反而损失了地铁这种日常高频次交通工具的便利性。

@@alexearl1403 我倒是觉得既然中国的传统铁道已经是标准轨，直接把动车开到那不就行了？韩国，法国，日本的迷你新干线都是这么高的。新站想建还是可以建，但是把老车站彻底荒废我觉得不是很好的做法。你想发展新区，路线上多造几个车站就行了。 春运人是很多，但是每年就那两周时间。为了那两周而把剩下50周而带来的不便，我觉得不理想。日本也是有黄金周之类的，运输密度不比高铁低。实在不行，春运时不进市中心就完了。 而且，即使有地铁连接，拎着个大包小包在地铁上挤来挤去也非常不方便。 地铁的安检就不说了。当时我在深圳，他们花了很多钱去造很多的闸机，但是为了“安检”只用2个。拥挤就不说了，而且还浪费钱。

That depends on who you ask 😆

@@paulthiel5145 you mean if you ask Hitachi or Kawasaki you get different answers? Or in Japan in general?

Exactly 🙃

​@@franciscobermejo1779ummm.... Kawasaki said it's a breach of intellectual property... That's why some Japanese are still salty about Chinese HSR (I know this because my country use Fuxing). The Japanese also said that Kawasaki wouldn't get Shinkansen order anymore (maybe this is strictly for the series designed by JR Central).

@@kanojune5754 ok, I understand a bit better now. Looks like Kawasaki didn't get a great result out of the deal... Thanks so much for the details!