Because it's more like: Every country in the World: "it's a shared border" The French: "no it's only ours".

We had a good idea? Lmfao that’s just how it is. It’s literally written in the treaties of the 1860s.

Yes we Italians and the French just want to drink wine, it’s only the governments that create these situations.

As an italian i love french people 🇮🇹❤️🇫🇷

@@kle_dis00 Same ! I love Italians people 🇫🇷❤🇮🇹

it's based on the definition of the border, choosing montains isnt as simple as you think, they can be multiple factors that you can choose from (peaks, rivers, etc), and then there the variables.

CAUSE IT IS!!!!

@@GeoNoob nope. France should be forced to return all of its stolen territory to Italy along with all of its stolen territory outside of Europe to the indigenous peoples. Until this happens France should have a global trade embargo placed on them, more restrictive than Iran’s or north Korea’s.

@@godogs89 Well said

You're just mad cause napoleon made a fool out of whatever country your from

@@godogs89 and all the territory was returned?? Well except for mainland france but that is frances land. And french Guyana was not returned because no one there wanted independence so it remained french. And if france has to have a global trade embargo then so should the uk, AND ALL THE **OTHER** FORMER COLONIAL EMPIRES because they did the same things, why doesn't belgium go through this with what they did in the congo??? Because the modern president doesn't (or as far as we know) want to do bad stuff in the congo, same with the Uk and the irish potato famine, the monarchy during the famine may have wanted to continue exporting food from ireland despite the hunger and sickness, but that doesn't mean the current monarchy wants to cause a famine. Just like France and any other country with a bad past. So go cry to the UN

You have an italian name

@@diegone080 because I am

@@davideghirelli5856 lol ecco

How border are design to ? Look at nothern part of France lool. Belgium literally is inside natural french border. A part of Netherland too. Luxembourg too. Little part of Germany too World isn't simple as that. Mont Blanc fully was in savoie territory. Savoie was given to France

@@gringologie9302 in fact belgium Is half ethnically french. You are talking about a geographical area with no natural barriers wich has been a contended territory and at war for centuries lol, this area was choose to place the european parliament for this reason, to mantain peace especially between Germany and France

Everyone in France think the Mount blanc is half French half Italian. And I think the « Italian » map is used in French school. That’s our government problem not French problem.

Completely agree with your thought also the peak of Monte bianco is in the Italian border so I do think it’s Italian.

Based NATO

@@ni9274La majorité des français pensent que le mont blanc est 100% français

@@miratowa1018 and it's indeed a bullshit.

Prussia gave the land to France because they felt Italy didn't help out that much, and France didn't want it so they gave it to Italy

@@levitschetter5288 Austria you mean?

​@@levitschetter5288 *Austria. And they ceded Veneto to France knowing full well that it would be immediately transferred to Italy, they just considered a direct territorial transfer to a newly unified Italy too humiliating.

We not "gained" nothing, those lands was ours since the beginning. French and Austrians was the abusives here. Now things are almost fine... even if parts of my Friuli are still under control of foreign countries. I remember you that Friuli was founded Avril 3, 1077. 😤

@@danielefabbro822 true

Divide is for the weaks,we will take it by force ! 🇨🇵👍🏻

@@Solveig.Tissot try It🇮🇹🇮🇹

@@Solveig.Tissot froggy moment, btw I support the Italians.

but despite that I hate froggies at times, we had a common enemy, the Americans. They ruin immigrant foods to the fact that it became nasty.

@@Alleniro Honestly calling French people ''froggies'' is kinda cringe, i live in France and NEVER have i seen a single soul eat frogs, snails or anything related to theses in restaurants by the way i agree, i support Italians cause this border just looks ugly and the Italians' are better

If I remember correctly only the french documents of the treaty got lost after WW2 while the Italian ones still exists, but the french simply don't care and pretend that the treaty doesn't exist anymore just because they lost the documents. It's like if someone refused to pay the bills because they've lost them, it makes absolutely no sense.

@@MKnew099 france as same number of border dispute as china. Thats explain a lot why they are reknown to be assholes

Yea

But infrastructures doesn't mean it belongs to a country...

@@sledgehog1 but the treaty does

Yes

Me, an other intellectual: *give Montain to Nepal*

@@97Corvi Or china, which has half the Everset and some others that determine the border between nepal and china

Rpz la haute savoie ici ouiiii

How Italians are right ? Mont Blanc was fully part of savoie territory.

@@gringologie9302 A part of savoy territory was in italy. The capital of savoy was Turin, a italian city.

@@danielredmond1735 so french are very nice to stop to Mont Blanc.

@@gringologie9302 no we are nice to not reclaim the whole of Savoy and Nizza

It's "Monte Bianco" or "White Mountain".

@@danielefabbro822 It's "Mont Blanc" both in French and English.

@@shakya00 yeah but the mountain is Italian so it's Monte Bianco. 😎🤣🤣🤣

@@danielefabbro822 No it is shared and I'm being kind there...Don't play the dumb nationalist when your own government doesn't contest it.

@@shakya00 my dear friend, I'm doing the same thing that French have done to us. So if you don't want to hear, run.

Infatti

Lmao try it and see pasta boy

​​@@barmybarmecide5390You try baguettes. There will always be a Pietro Micca or a Fornovo for you 😂

Divide ? That's for the weaks ! We will take this by force ! 🇨🇵❤️

We conquered it, and so it remains French. Only if Italy could conquer it back will I settle. Till that day comes, I stick beside my reasoning.

@@strasbourgeois1 1st you haven't conquered shit, that would imply french troops there and de facto french authority and neither are true. 2nd you have nothing to settle cause you're nobody.

@@strasbourgeois1 "we conquered it" Ehm no. I don't see any french soldier on the mountain. And the buildings on the mountain were constructed by italian people. International law says that Monte Bianco (Mont Blanc) is both italian and french. LMAO, french imperialism is so funny.

@@sator3946 If there were a French soldier on the mountain, that would provoke Italy furthermore. Hypothetically, a French soldier crossing into Italian juridical land would be seen as something like trespassing or invasion. Something we are smart enough to understand. And again, like the video says, it can be written on paper or whatever, but you cannot stop the dispute.

French declared that treaty without value. That's the weight of french honour...without value.

@@solinvictus1234 i mean of it comes to "honour" who TF is innocent? Italian honour is litteraly known in history to be worthless with the most popular examples being both world wars, but the Italian wars are such a sh*t show its quite amazing anyone cares. British honor is also renowned to be worthless, unless its against France i guess but thats mutual and a thousand years old rivalry. German honor... its a weird one since Germany as country is very young and before that was... confusing as hell. No but seriously may the country that never betrayed a single one of its agreement throw the 1st stone. Plus im pretty sure ever since Bismarck the matter of Honour in Geopolitic is considered worthless, then again its been a while since i studied realpolitik

@@erwannthietart3602 The fact that you're ig or ant on the matter of Italy affairs in WW's, do not allow you to judge Italy as dishonourable in such a generalized way. Did you know that in WWI wasn't Italy to left the Triple Entente but Austro-Hungarians to betray the treaty and nullify it violating the Article 7? And if you want i will explain in details it to you. Did you know why Italy sided with Germany in WWII? Cause the dishonourable Americans, British and French, during the pact of London, do not gived the promised (verbally and on paper) lands to Italy agreed before the WWI and for that lands Italy lost millions of young men, that died for nothing at the end. Mussolini that fought WWI was so pissed off for this betrayal act that it would never side again with the allies. Germany honourable? Ahahah At the end of the day Italy's mistake was maybe to have been far too much honourable than anyone. No one it's innocent, but someone was less innocent that some others. And believe me, regarding the honour of Italians you do not know nothing, just the propagandistic side of the anglosaxon world.

@@solinvictus1234 ig or ant? My god english words shortened to stuff i cant even understand since ig for me means "in game" and ant means just that "ant". I can still claim that Italy was dishonorable because even if they were "betrayed" they still attacked their former ally after accepting a litteral bribe made by the one supposed to be their ennemy consisting of mere promise to give land to Italy. Italian war still justify italian dishonor in general. WW2 still Italians turning on their German ally the moment the allies started winning no matter how little they wanted the war its still not something you would expect or want out of an honorable people, no matter how justified Italy was in joining the Axis in the 1st place. Now if you start ranting about how the Entente betrayed those who fought with them, nezrly no ine liked the peacedeals. Italy didnt like the peace deal because they wanted more, Austria didnt like the peace deal because their empire got cut apart, Germany didnt like it because of the many restrictions and loss of land etc... Bulgaria didnt like it because they lost all of their empire, the Greeks didnt like the peace deals because the Turks didnt let them keep Constantinople and Asia Minor, Hungary HATED the peacedeal because they fought against Austria in the End and they got scammed out of 50% of their historical land, and finnaly France also didnt like the Peacedeals because while they won their territorial objectives and all, they wanted to cut Germany apart mike Austria and got disapointed aswell because UK and USA said "f*** that idea, no way it could backfire in i dunno 20 years or smt" The only real happy ones were Belgium and Luxemburg, cus it survived, Poland and the Baltics cus they got free, The slavs in Tcheqoslovakia and i swear i never know how its written pls help, the Slavs of Yugoslavia which frankly Italy was very unhappy about like hungary and Bulgaria, Romania, USA, and UK, even Japan got a bit disapointed over the result since they couldnt get more money though in their case the dispointment would hurt a bit later with China and the treaty of Washington i think. The Entente were facing the problem of everyone wanted everything but both claims clashed so they compromised and it led to many unhappy countries

@@erwannthietart3602 the alliance treaty between Italy, Austria and Germany was purely defensive, since Austria is the one who declared the war against Serbia(without consulting Italy either), Italy had no reason to join the war. In ww2 Italy Mussolini got arrested and Italy surrendered to the allies, then Germany invaded the now neutral Italy and rescued Mussolini splitting Italy in half. Neither of the two wars has Italy betraying its allies, you can cope all you want, these are just the facts.

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Ecology. As Italy isn't famous to protect environment. Mountain is threatens by warming change.

@@gringologie9302 "Italy isn't famous to protect environment" nope, we care about our environment as much as France and the rest of Europe. We've a lot of inaccesible islands protected by the law, national forest and a lot protected species (read the story of the reintroduction of the Appennine wolf and the Alpine Bears). Also we are very good on recycling (first in Europe for recycling paper); and to finish, right now we're doing new laws to protect animals and environment. Stop using this stupid prejudice, thanks.

@@gringologie9302 Ahahahahahahaahahahahahahaaha France is know to not care at all about environment

​@@gringologie9302 what a joke. France is still holding on a colonial system 2 centuries later, definitely not better than Italy

​@@nailil5722no France doesn't lmao, one google search would be enough to disabuse you of that notion. and no, a thing is not true because Sputnik Afrique said so 😂

But the treaty of 1860 has some obvious problems, its wording suggests they were not aware of the actual geography. That's why both sides can base their opinion on this treaty.

Italy in the treaty of “Torino” give Savoia and Nizza to France for the help against Austria in the second war of independence. So if the treaty of 1860 doesn't exist Italy would have Savoia and Nizza. The treaty signed by the two side but the french copy vanished misteriously.

​@@eljanrimsa5843It hasn't any problem except it crash with French Médiocrité. But it is the Treaty in use so...

They should do like the Canadians and take turns leaving alcoholic beverages up there

The highest mountain in Europe is in Russia.

@@MrPeterPan 0:32

exactly, and people saying that wars are useless...

That's why a lot of people agreed on the diplomatic partition of Monte Bianco. But French are too proud go on that eay, good or bad. That's why many in Italy can't stand France on Italic territories(no Italian, mind you). I.e. Corsica, Savoia(Savoy) and Nizza(Nice).

No no everybody in France doesn't says that

@@gringologie9302 Never met somebody that doesn't but let's say a vast majority

there is a dispute even for the waters . Basically France denies the existence of north Sardinia waters

@@locusta4662 well gotta keep the record of like 13 territorial disputes lol ^^

@@erwannthietart3602 🤮🤮🤮

@@kinggeedorah8303 you can cope and puke as much as you want but those territories still belongs to France now and its certainly doesnt seem like its gonna change anytime soon

@@erwannthietart3602 what territories? Monte Bianco Is split in 2 in every map exept french ones. Accept It: you are wrong

Communism?

@@ServantoftheDivine1701 I am currently deciding on whether I should say "sorry m8, ur replying to the wrong person", or just go with it, and reply "Close, Socialism." and call it a day!

@@ServantoftheDivine1701 it's not Italys or Frances Mountain, it's OUR mountain

Average Virgin Brainless Anti France comment ⬆️

Fair enough

You're wrong and I'm right for two reasons 1. Italians are losers 2. I'm french

I'm french and France is right for sure

France is right

more or less

Now now, bossy and spoiled? Oh i fully agree, but a passion for cultural appropriation? Tssk how rude, an Obsession would be the correct word, you WILL give us your food recipe and we WILL adopt it as our own and upgrade it into its own thing

Based

But Georgia Is owned by Buthan

@@Lario_ But i thought Buthan is owned by Liechtenstein

But Liechtenstein is owned by the Papal state

@@vittorioarioli9127 Right, i forgot, but the Papal States are owned by St Kitts

Io pure 👁️👄👁️

Interamente italiana no, il trattato di Torino sancisce che il monte bianco è spartito tra Italia e Francia e così deve essere e rimanere

Monte blanc sounds like an insult

*Monte Bianco

As an italian i approve

Fun fact: the Mona Lisa wasn't sold, it was given by Leonardo to the French king.

@@divicarpe1844 Yeah, I meant that Leonardo was commissioned by the french to do it. Unclear, my apologies

@@tommivalle2652 It wasn't even commissioned, Leonardo worked on it far before coming in France. It was just a gift.

I'm an italian and you're right. But a lot of other italian pictures and sculptures are stolen during the Napoleonic Italian campaign.

The Mona Lisa is more the face of the issue it’s not the issue itself, is famous so people use it as an example but it’s actually one of the few that wasn’t stolen but! the majority of the Italian art at the louvre is!

@@thngvbts5182 true

@Chemya Da Vinci made two Mona Lisa in the same period

@@thngvbts5182 It's true. Why no one speack about the Canova's sculpture

the french stole many arts from italian land during the napoleonic war.

Amor, ch'al cor gentile ratto s'apprende Prese colui de la bella persona Che mi fu tolta; e'l modo ancor m'offende. Amor ch'a nullo amato amar perdona, Mi prese del costui piacer sì forte, Che, come vedi, ancor non m'abbandona. The translation you offered changes a bit the meaning of the two stanzas, so, as I studied these verses recently and as an Italian, I'll try to write a better, non in the form of a poem, translation, more accurate to the original Love, which quickly inhabits the noble heart (noble as in pure; gentle is plain wrong, at least as it's used today) Seized him with my beautiful form That was taken from me, in a manner which still offends me. Love, which doesn't allow any beloved not to love (as in: it's impossible to not love back) Gave me so strong love of him, That, as you can see, still doesn't abandon me. Now my translation could be improved a lot, but it retains the original meaning a bit better, at least in my opinion, as I don't know all about English

Reason?

@@patro734 Why Not?

If you consider the Caucasus countries European then Mount Elbrus would be the tallest but if you consider them as Asian then it’s monte Branco

@@leratking8842 technically Europe, but actually Asia.

Easy, mont blanc in the european union and elbrus in Europe.

Continents are not clearly defined even as a concept, meaning that really you could even say that mount Everest is the tallest mountain of Oceania and you'd still be right

Elbrus is in Europe, but is a volcano, not a mountain.

Based France,as always :)

@@Solveig.Tissot there has been not, and never will be, anything based coming from France. It's phisically impossible.

@@riograndedosulball248 Average Virgin Brainless Cringe Anti France Troll Fanboy VS The Chad Based God France Enjoyer,cope harder :)

@@riograndedosulball248 Bro... That's called racism

@@lamouettegaming reality is sometimes disappointing

am French

In Friuli we have a motto that says (for the kids) : "Eat, Grow, Obey, Working". That's what a good kid have to do to be treated well here.

@@danielefabbro822 per fortuna fra 197 anni voi italiani non ci sarete più:)

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nope

@@johnneumann7273 The French German border is Belgium.

@@masscreationbroadcasts ahhhhh of course

What

@@masscreationbroadcasts The Nato-Russia Border is Ukraine

Its a bit... complicated There are plenty of patriotism and especially chauvinism in France still today, i mean former global empire and all that, being grouped with the underdogs and not the superpowers and all definitly hurts our pride one way or another. But in the meantime i also found as a french that in the West Europe the most Patriotic and nationalist people ive met were Italians because "grrr give us Corsica and Nice, and all the stuff you stole you damn frenchmen". Its a matter of pov really. The problem over the mountain is really not dealt with on the french side not because of needless pride however, but because no one actually gives a f about it beyond "oh yea, its french, neat", like the mere idea of sharing it with Italy never comes up because well, all we learn is that its french and its never mentionned again unless you study history thouroughly, geopolitics, or are just curious enough that stuff like this video shows up in recommandation. Really obscurity and the remnant of chauvinism (sorta nationalism except more french) is the litteral only thing that prevents us from actually dealing with this border inconveniance

You really consider Corse, Savoy and Nice to be Italian? Kinda cringe considering they are french speaking and cultured places, find yourself a stable government instead of being mad for France having more territory

@@SaladeDeFruitt Corsica and Nizza are Italian

@@vins0038 go ask that to a Corsican or a Niçois if they feel Italian

@@SaladeDeFruitt Italic≠Italian, I can understand without prior knowledge all dialects of the region. Without talking about Corsica, that is litteraly just slightly different from Sardo.

@@Reyob How many times you need to press people French culture and language before they shut up. That's litteraly Corsica history.

If only Aosta and Genoa were still French

@@zeniith there’s a difference France occupied those regions without any French in it. While Savoy and Nizza had many ethnically Italians which you French can’t even deny since Garibaldi was from Nice

@@Boretheory Nice was Italian, but Savoy was definitely French

@@Boretheory i was just responding to the first comment

@@Boretheory savoy had some scattered italo-arpitans but they were mostly bilingual with french and italian was their second language. Nice however was 90% italian, and in 1870 garibaldi actually won the local elections and went on to represent the region in parliament. His requests were ignored and italians were either killed or deported while parisians were moved to nice en masse to change the local majority. Fun fact nicois(nizzardo) is a dialect of ligurian (of you are italian) or occitan (if you are french). The french changed the spelling rules of the dialect to be more french live "today" was "tuggiù" (still pronounced like this) but the french tought it should be spelled "toujou" to be closer to the french "toujours"

How peacefull ? Savoie was given to France. Mont Blanc fully is in savoie. If Italy wants half of it, that's not the peacefull solution

@@gringologie9302 Monte Bianco is in Italy, not Savoia. If France wants something someone else has it's unjust

@@gringologie9302 Can you stop with ths chauvinistic french bullshit? The mountain is shared, treaty of Turin,1861, your cuck government signed it.

The border is on the summit. The treaty is quite clear on that

Also the French being the most childish and least respectable ppl on the continent might contribute

There were no genocidal attitude in Corsica ? The region maintains an autonomous status. Although I agree with the other things you mentioned. Yes, it would be easy to find a compromise. I personnaly think sharing is the right solution, it would also prove that two nations can be friends. A french Mt Blanc is acknowledging of the local realities.

@@crkcrk702 Corsicans are asked by the government to unify into French culture proper, their language is dying and their culture with it, doesn't matter if it's an autonomous region if they can't act like it. Corsica is basically living the same horrible fate Occitania went through.

@@Old_Harry7 Corsicans voted no for independance And how are the langages of Italia outside toscanese ?

@@crkcrk702 I'm not talking about independence, that's not my point, what I'm saying is France should protect and encourage cultural diversity within non French proper regions. Italy values all of its dialects and outright recognise tongues such as Sardinian as proper languages which are for example even learnt in school and read on textbooks.

there is no real dispute nice is French and France....honestly there are areas in the northern most areas of italy that austria could claim with some legtimacy

@@camm8642 No, there aren't. There are some areas like Nizza( Italian) that are not French and other states, like Germany, could claim

@@NoName-hg6cc you are wong parts of northern italy could easily go back to austria

@@camm8642 No, you are wrong. Part of France could go back to Italy or Germany

@@NoName-hg6cc Like Alto-Adige isn't italian. It's true in fact, like nice or Strasbourg aren't the cultural heart or France

As a french I also thought it was only ours ^^'

@@crkcrk702 hah well this explains the 2 map trouble

Guess we can consider it both French and Italian

It's actually Kingdom of Sardinia cuz Piedmont was a principality

@@jecko980 Savoy took the Sardinia and the Piedmont to form Piedmond sardinia kingdom

@@romaingillet2526 nope, Savoy took Sicily but exchanged it with the kingdom of Sardinia that was in Neapolitan hands, so just to have a Kingdom title they renamed them Kingdom of Sardinia, Piedmont was a principality

Regno di Sardegna .

@@jecko980 Yes but in english they call it every time Sardinia-Piedmomt

Huuum no.

@@rolletroll2338 Huuum sì.

@@robertocalibancove8245 Savoie was given to France in 1860. End of story.

@@gringologie9302 Savoia was stolen from France, history goes on.

As an Italian, I just think it's unfair that France doesn't get to fulfil its claims. Sure, historically, it would make sense, but so would the island of Corsica, and yet nobody would doubt it is a rightfully French island

Italy's food is better. Pasta > frog

@@freespiritedd Frogs are traditional of Northern Italy too

@@AlexanderLittlebears never seen a cooked frog in my entire life and I live there

Yeah, bread and butter is the best food ever

Zidane headbutt showed how silly are the french and how smart are the italians. Nothing more and nothing less.

@@solinvictus1234 God? Is that you? Aurelian?

@@luciusdomitiusaurelianus5334 Aurelianus for friends 😉

@@solinvictus1234 Zidane said after the match end that Materazzi insult a member of his family. That's not what I will call ''smart''

@@lamouettegaming I will call smart as sh..t. Materazzi did that to get Zidane angry, and that worked flawlessly. It's no more and no less a smart tactic that any worlds Defender use, since the dawn of time and also in this days. It's the midfielder/striker that should be smarter than the defender and do not fall in hos provocations.

Other then che Caucasus itself (and the Urals) being kind of the intercontinental border and the border itself not being precisely defined (a bit like for Turkey), I'd guess it's mostly for historical reasons. In the sense "the mountain that has historically been considered the highest in Europe".

@@riccardogemme thanks a lot!

Kashmir (India & Pakistan)

France annexed Veneto for 30min and gave it to Italy

Yeah the entire world knows that German have difficulty to understand any kind of treaty.

I doubt the french care to much about a german opinion......

Switzerland: It's free real estate.

No sorry , it's mine ; and the square in front of my house too .

No thanks.

Cu caz

North Italy can't even get along south Italy sometimes , so it would be a problem. Even if for what I know , northern Italy could be a part of France with no problem

@@fanofcodd As much as France have problems with their South. Who would fit in Italy quite well though

@@fanofcodd Dream about it petit zemmour !!

Your opinion is not fact my guy

@@ryanbrimson8238 woah, pal, it’s just a fact that Italy is way cooler than France. My opinions aren’t automatically factual, it just so happens that a fact and my opinion are side by side

@@ryanbrimson8238 ok, dude. There’s not a single reason whatsoever to get all feisty. I’m sorry that you couldn’t tell but I’m making a joke bub. You have no reason to be all upset. If you do, I genuinely need to hear it. Not once in my post did I say the French were snobs, not sure where you got that from. For your last section, I had no clue that was the case. You’re really saying a country doesn’t get half a mountain because it’s cooler? Really? My whole geopolitical understanding is upside down. In my opinion, I think Italy is a cooler country, that’s entirely on personal taste. Henceforth, I make that comment. I have no clue where you got the idea I was being serious from

@@ryanbrimson8238 side question, what country are you from?

@@battlepans1927 I’m actually sorry for my comment, it was rude and stupid. i knew you were joking of course but as a french guy I’m just so fed up at this point of seeing people hating on my country and people, that even a joking comment like this gets me wound up. Have a good day anyway

France was there in both.

@@gontrandjojo9747 yes but not as an actor

@@gontrandjojo9747 ok it was dumb from me to write that now i realise

Not many people do this anymore. It was common in the Soviet Union, but today the most commonly used definition for the Asia-Europe boundary are the watersheds, which puts Mount Elbrus right on this border.

An interesting idea. It would be even better if there was an exchange ceremony every 6 months, to attract as many tourists as possible!

No. Andorra was a principauty, always special statut. Both France and Spain wanted it, both had it. But legally, nor France nor Spain could claim it for himself. So we shared it on good intelligence. Mont Blanc is different. Was totally in savoie territory. Savoie was given to France, and so mont blanc. Doenst give a clue that some Italians farmers and so later tourism exploitation didn't respect the treaty. Law is law. Both french and Romans know that. Maybe nothern Italians tend to forget.

@@gringologie9302 andorra and the pheasant island are two different territories.

@@gringologie9302 only problem: treat of Turin. If France lost it's copy it's not italian fault, and French cannot use the Treat of Cherasco as a proof, considering that every Napoleonic conquistsl was canceled with the Restauration, so it is not valid. Mont Blanc/Monte Bianco is both italian and French, that's it