IS THIS THE BEST ELECTRIC VAN? VAUXHALL VIVARO-E

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IS THIS THE BEST ELECTRIC VAN? VAUXHALL VIVARO-E
So we all know how the first Electric Van went... well it's time for full-electric vehicle redemption in a Van that truly is fit for purpose on paper. In this episode of Artisan Electrics, we take a trip to collect potential the 'best eclectic van' currently on the market from a super futuristic location. Stay tuned until the end too for a sneak peek of an exciting upcoming video.
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00:45 Chauffeured
02:33 GRIDSERVE
04:07 Vivaro-E
05:36 Step One
07:03 Van Highlights
09:18 Charging Cables
10:08 DC Charging
11:50 Solar Power
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@artisanelectrics 2 жыл бұрын

Could you see the Vivaro-E joining your fleet? Let us know below...

@kinross24 2 жыл бұрын

Never mind fleet, what about a campervan conversion?

@johnsutton360 2 жыл бұрын

I drive one for work. Been using it for about 5 months now. Its a great van and range is about 120 to 130 fully loaded.

@aleksi. 2 жыл бұрын

The new Volkswagen Buzz gargo is almost here so I would personally wait for it if you have a change to get it.

@electriclee 2 жыл бұрын

I have a Toyota proace electric which basically the same van, been using it for 3 months now and never needed to use a public charger, I can get about 170 miles from a single charge, still charge it every night as I never know what the next day might intel.

@andrewuk8363 2 жыл бұрын

But did you find the windscreen de-icer button or are you planning on doing it with a hands on approach?

@adeytecnic 2 жыл бұрын

You would normally aim to charge up to 80% On a rapid charger. The last 20 slow down considerably. Great van though 👌

@Digitalblitz. Жыл бұрын

B button is for regeneration braking… where you charge the batteries each time you ease off the accelerator pedal. I have Citroen e dispatch and I turn to either gain more miles or loose almost nothing when you drive in Eco mode and B button turned on. … which took me over 2 months to figure out 😢 and wasted £ 💷 due to driving regularly in normal and sport mode with B turned off. Please stay away from Sport mode as this drains the battery too quickly, it turns the van into a beast, super fast 💨 💨💨

@ianfromnyc 2 жыл бұрын

Those Gridserve Electric Highway units (at the services) are capable of charging both connectors at 150kW at the same time, but they are currently limited to one connector at 60kW because they replaced 1x 50kW ex-Ecotricity units without upgrading the supply. GS say they have a project going around upgrading the supply at each location so that the full capabilities can be unlocked, but obviously that's a slow process subject to DNOs, planning permissions, site owners, etc.

@raymyhill2 2 жыл бұрын

Lee and Reubin were at home panicking when Jordan rang.

@jameskelly8148 2 жыл бұрын

You need to load the rear with the same weight equivalent as your fully loaded vans. Then see what range you get.

@TKevinBlanc Жыл бұрын

I'll bet they are rated at full load. At least the Fords and VWs are.)

@88tmilko 9 ай бұрын

Have a Vivaro E company van. About 120-130 miles in ECO 1/2 loaded is what I’m finding on average. Its awful on motorways but good around town. Charging is a faff if you only have access to Quick Chargers. I love the smooth fast drive of the ev but would have the diesel engine instead if possible.

@wobby1516 2 жыл бұрын

It’s the van I would definitely have bought. We run a service in the west of Ireland and need 150mile of range, however now retired.. I had VW synchro at £22000 18 years ago so this vans a good price.

@SteRumbelow 2 жыл бұрын

Not pressing the start/stop button before getting out is exactly the same as not turning the key to turn your normal car off. The engine/ignition is still on, so I think that’s perfectly normal rather than a quirk!

@artisanelectrics 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of modern cars do now turn off if your in park and open the door, just varies from brand to brand.

@SteRumbelow 2 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics ah, fair enough. I wasn’t aware of that.

@cjmillsnun 2 жыл бұрын

@@artisanelectrics You mean Tesla does that. Most don't.

@huwdavies6650 2 жыл бұрын

B on Stelantis vehicles selects Regen on. It's not One pedal as you have in a Tesla but it gives you the equivalent of Engine Braking.

@markgilder9990 2 жыл бұрын

Had mine since October 2021 and regularly do 180 mile round trips.

@AdrianMcDaid 2 жыл бұрын

How much would you say saved on fuel costs so far compared to diesel?

@alexbrown2429 2 жыл бұрын

Wicked van! Come across your vans every now an again around Cambridge, saw your Blue Caddy today, lovely looking van and great to see you keep it so clean🧽 keep up the good work love the videos 👍🏼

@electriclee 2 жыл бұрын

B mode boost energy recovery when you lift your foot off the accelerator, it feels like heavy engine breaking, you can almost drive with one pedal.

@cjmillsnun 2 жыл бұрын

CCS - Combined Charging system. The reason being is that the socket in the car accepts AC (type 2) and DC rapid charging. B Mode is Braking mode as in stronger regen. Gridserve are waiting for a software update to allow both plugs to charge at once. Problem is, they have been waiting a year for the update.

@Bom_Tutcher Жыл бұрын

Brilliant video! The B on the Gear Selector is for more regenerative braking for a more efficient drive and get some more range around town!

@Marcel_Germann 2 жыл бұрын

CCS = Combined Charging System, because CCS contains of a type 2 plug for AC charging and in addition 2 prongs for high power DC charge. So CCS ensures compatibility to both, AC and DC charging.

@duniek86 2 жыл бұрын

to be clear its CCS2 (like type2 + DC) - in USA they have CCS1 (type1 + DC)

@ForTheBirbs 2 жыл бұрын

Much better than the P.O.S conversion you have Jordan! Buyers remorse...? Nicely done with the loan of the Vauxhall. And a nice surprise for Rueben.

@matthewfenney5088 2 жыл бұрын

I was part of the build team in Braintree gridserve. Going the Electrics and the chargers

@anyolirons 2 жыл бұрын

The fence part got a lol from me! Really made me chuckle 😂 Another great video, keep it up guys!

@phillipgwynne6580 2 жыл бұрын

My confidence always grows a little in Electric vehicles pretty much every time I watch an Artisan video. I still think we are between 5-10 years until the charging infrastructure becomes more viable, that said things do seem to progress faster these days. Hopefully the Vauxhall will serve you and your business well. If not, maybe try another manufacturer for a month and say it will be featured on KZfaq 🤣. That said, I honestly believe your channel really could help promote the right EV van when you find it!

@chestermartin2356 11 ай бұрын

The charging network will progress with the number of vehicles on the road. It would be ridiculous to have a network similar to how we have petrol stations with relatively few EVs using them

@phillipbridge5009 9 ай бұрын

And of course you kissed the main point that none of the existing power stations can keep up nor can "sustainable " generation....nuclear or coal is the only solution. And we forgot that we do all this in a clean environment while India and China buod a new coal station a day and have no controls or restrictions......lol And a one volcano would equal 5 years output of the entire world in one week....lalalala land is where people live.

@susangeorginagraves854 2 жыл бұрын

I have found that B mode on my Zoe, is extra battery mode. Where it regenerates where ever it can. It well extends my battery loads. Gets around extra 30%

@locknut5382 2 жыл бұрын

I second that. Our ZE50 R110 gains around 35% more range in B mode. We almost always use Eco mode too. In Summer, our range, when driven normally, and with a passenger and cargo, is slightly greater than Renault claim it to be.

@colin7898 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Peugeot E-Expert (same van different badge). Real world range varies a lot. Current average efficiency is 2.5 miles per kWh. (Normal mode - rarely use ECO) Range from 150 to 190 miles but very weather dependent. (75kW battery) Wind is your worst enemy. It’s as aerodynamic as a brick. In strong headwinds you need to draft behind a truck. Strong Headwinds can lower the range to as little as 130 miles. Use it at legal van speeds and you get good range. Motorway about 63mph gives best range. Spec it with the 11kw onboard charger option as I only have the 7kW onboard charger and wish I had upgraded. The electric doors and keyless ignition are options. Rear camera option also a great investment. Has 180 degree view when reversing which helps when backing out from a charger. HUD is great. This week been to Edinburgh, Hull and Norwich. (1200 miles) Last month 3000 miles. It goes a long way and charges really well at 97kwh. Absolutely love it. Comfortable too.

@AdrianMcDaid 2 жыл бұрын

How your fuel savings ?

@colin7898 2 жыл бұрын

@@AdrianMcDaid tough question to be exact but it’s about 50%. Cost charging at home is about £15 if I actually went 0-100%. Rapid Charging (Instavolt say at 50p per kWh from 10-80% (53kwh) £26.50 which is probably worst case unless I was absolutely desperate and went for Ionity!!) Diesel would cost me about £70 for about 400 miles when it was about £1.40 per litre. So home charging equivalent is £30 and rapid only is about £53. Ratio the fuel cost up to today and it would be about £85 per tank.

@seberdee8824 2 жыл бұрын

Nearly all the supermarkets here in southern France have big solar panel covered parking spaces with chargers

@DJTonyCMP3 2 жыл бұрын

Wow what a van Jordan 👍

@jimmym0117 2 жыл бұрын

Although I just passed the domestic installer qualification, I still hope to buy this E-Van to develop my electrician career in the future.

@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын

buúy ít chiéfvtoo

@nigelweir3852 Жыл бұрын

Great choice , real world range 150+, depends on driver , motor way driving speed, has good charge rate but depends on availability’s of chargers

@N3MAID3S Жыл бұрын

on the gear shifter, B is for an agressive regenerative braking, so if you let off the accelerator it will engine brake a lot, so you can literally drive without having to use the brakes, unless you gotta stop fully. We got a Peugeot Partner and it's kinda the same truck since they're all owned by PSA/Stellantis

@thesteelrodent1796 Жыл бұрын

not owned by, but built by PSA. GM still owns Vauxhall, but just like most their compact cars are built by Suzuki, their vans and pickups are built by PSA and Toyota (depending on model)

@N3MAID3S Жыл бұрын

@@thesteelrodent1796 Vauxhall became a subsidiary of Stellantis in January 2021

@grahamek86 2 жыл бұрын

B mode in EVs is "battery" mode. It turns the throttle into a combined throttle / brake so that when you back off it'll aggressively use regenerative braking

@giacobbe1993 2 жыл бұрын

B stand for " Brake" mode but the concept is what you said

@grahamek86 2 жыл бұрын

@@giacobbe1993 indeed, my mental processing was flawed thanks to beer. My thinking was that it dumps more energy into the battery with a heavier braking effect, but I wrote battery instead.

@PlanetCypher_ 2 жыл бұрын

@18:12 GridServe are rolling out updates on the chargers to allow dual charging, when they do, a sticker is added on the front of the unit.

@shane121 2 жыл бұрын

Nice looking van, I know exactly where you was. Drive past it daily. Nice to see what it looks like inside.

@Jay0903 2 жыл бұрын

Love to see you treat your staff so well. Proper role model. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💫⭐️

@illusionuk 2 жыл бұрын

On the Vivaro-e the charging port is located near the front on the nearside (RHD models), but I note that it still has the flap where the fuel filler would be on a diesel version of the van. Is there anything behind this flap on the Vivaro-e?

@SgHawk144 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent little blog. Van looks a big step up from the VW.

@andyclark1426 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Jordan, CCS is combined charge system, I had a “normal” version of the vivaro last year and it was the most uncomfortable van I’ve ever had 😔, also have a guy on “call” for those faults that come in is a great idea, be good for Ruben to spend time with him, fault finding is always interesting

@MetalMike50 2 жыл бұрын

This is sponsored content, I'd take the video with a grain of salt. I haven't heard any criticism on the van so far.

@ItsTotallyLewis 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone else think this was goingto be in Luton? Corey must’ve felt a shiver

@TidyTransport 2 жыл бұрын

CCS stands for Combined Charging System. The diesel Vivaro was a little underpowered for what I needed, especially when travelling in the highlands. Going up hills you had to drop at least one gear, (sometimes two) to maintain the speed/ Momentum. It was very comfortable mind you! I hope the EV version gets more punchy power delivery.

@CRAZYCR1T1C 2 жыл бұрын

I have the E expert 75kwh equivalent. The torque means you will be able to accelerate up that hill like it’s flatland.

@TidyTransport 2 жыл бұрын

@@CRAZYCR1T1C that makes sense, constant torque means better power up a hill. I bet I would eat the range somewhat though no?

@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын

buúy volov fsst charibg vaper use vivoe etrc twilight movie

@Gobbbbb 9 ай бұрын

@@sharonbraselton4302 huh?????????

@marcusmaximus451 2 жыл бұрын

Good and interesting vlog and also good comments by everyone. I am by no means an expert but something tells me that if technology allows the vehicle should produce its own electric via the turning of the wheels with power going into a heavy duty battery and also kinetic movement also generating electric, or even nuclear fusion inside a cell (safe of course) generating heat in a controlled module thereby powering the vehicle, best regards to you and everyone out there Mark from Billericay 😀👍🇬🇧

@alzdeane 2 жыл бұрын

That's what re-generative braking does, standard on pretty much EV ?

@JasonDunlop247 9 ай бұрын

Terrific review. Thank you ☘️

@bencoatesworth7731 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry am all for the electric and hybrid cars and vans but one thing i will miss is the yank leaver hand break. Something about the satisfying tug u got to give to apply it

@neojng Жыл бұрын

Grid serve is right next to where I live, its sooooooooooooooo good haha

@Ben02120 2 жыл бұрын

B mode is just brake mode so extra energy regeneration when you let off the accelerator

@arronbloomberg605 2 жыл бұрын

Great video

@skinbazz1226 2 жыл бұрын

It will still spank mileage in the winter but if your working local electric vehicles are awesome.

@RobFerrer 2 жыл бұрын

I wish they'd do the larger range (or ideally a bit more) version for the Vivaro Life passenger van. We're stuck with a dirty diesel.

@MrAustin241080 2 жыл бұрын

What are the locks like as tradesmen vehicles are always broken in

@amarkhaliq 2 жыл бұрын

10:04 Jordan waving goodbye to Electric VW Transporter 😂

@artisanelectrics 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@JoneKone 2 жыл бұрын

Kemppi Chargers work properly you can charge on all the ports, and it splits the power with a "power router"

@1234jjh 2 жыл бұрын

B on my electric car is re gen braking so when you let off the accelerator it brakes for you and also charges your car at the same time 👍🏻

@1234jjh 2 жыл бұрын

Basically one pedal driving

@andypaddon8531 2 жыл бұрын

Great video - my company are looking to get a fleet of E-vans - will forward this to my fleet chappie for consideration

@Sparklife-UK 2 жыл бұрын

Tell Elijah to get those st stickers off his wing mirrors 😂

@benYMSB Жыл бұрын

The “B” button, when active, gives your van a bit of a charge when you use your breaks.

@puntoboy_gt 2 жыл бұрын

Those are the old Ecotricity Gridserve chargers I think. The firmware hasn't been updated to allow dual charging.

@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын

thatsvçhef wat all ev dul charged dublechare mph per hour 2 fsst chef kw per hurs

@gowron492 2 жыл бұрын

B mode turns up the regenerative braking (wish it was default)..

@gerardbonus5354 2 жыл бұрын

Speed difference interesting. I did not realise the VW had implemented a speed limit. Also your BW is fully loaded ~ what 3/4 Tonnes in metric?

@aaronpatterson1777 2 жыл бұрын

i work for openreach and they have them vivaro-e and every one who has one have complained about them they dont get any sort of good rang and they dont have there heating on at all

@jsptravels 2 жыл бұрын

Seeing quite a few fleet operators replace the ENV200 with these, we’ve had a couple of them for a little while now .. (1,000 on order)

@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын

wroñg

@neilwiddison6529 Жыл бұрын

As a self employed tiler a little battery van would be ideal for me doing about 40 is miles a day. But the cost of buying on is well out of my reach and to lease one would take god knows how long to be financially worth will.

@stephenbuckley6889 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jordan I don't know if you are aware but the Tesla superchargers are now open for anyone with CCS chargers.

@chrisj170678 2 жыл бұрын

0-80% in 45 mins @ 100kw - The last 20% takes quite a bit longer

@benpaynter 2 жыл бұрын

Those Gridserve chargers with two outlets will allow dual charging but they're waiting for an update. To be fair to Gridserve they have communicated this with the public previously. Still frustrating though

@ColinPrince 2 жыл бұрын

It looks very nice, better than the VW. Unfortunately Holden/Vauxhall have left Australia, so I guess that we won’t be seeing it here!

@krbuilders4685 2 жыл бұрын

CCS - combined charging system

@RichardArblaster 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, so if you did decide to get one, will you be sending the transporter back?

@andrewpowell6457 2 жыл бұрын

What's it like when you load it full of stuff, range wise.

@leequinn6024 2 жыл бұрын

Hi mate, any update on how the vivaro van and how you guys are coping with it ?👍

@ThePalmen1 2 жыл бұрын

B is usually one pedal mode.

@jamiep61 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed watching the Video 😊

@artisanelectrics 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed

@sclm55 2 жыл бұрын

Looking into EV vans. Tanks for the review. Though not thorough, it did provide some insight. I am an electrician in the states. So I see you have great taste in tools!

@artisanelectrics 2 жыл бұрын

No problem!

@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын

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@tc6907 2 жыл бұрын

Having to actually turn a van off when you get out! What a ball ache hey 😂😂

@johnowen7061 2 жыл бұрын

I believe that Gridserve charger are waiting on software to use both sides at the same time.

@dexterco9773 2 жыл бұрын

Cheeky post - I have an electric Exoert arriving April - bought electric Dispatch when I gave up waiting for it - let me know if you are interested.

@jackobei17 2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what the range will be when its fully loaded

@philhicks5818 2 жыл бұрын

All the vivaro range has 2 sliding doors , I’ve just took delivery of a new vivaro elite , nice van but couldn’t afford the electric version , 50k ☹️

@aussiegruber86 2 жыл бұрын

I wish we had some options for vans in Australia

@kinross24 2 жыл бұрын

Tycan, Ioniq5 and ev6 can get most from the 350kw units now!

@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын

télsa ßome are 480 kw

@olivermyers8577 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the upcoming VW ID Buzz van that should be even better and been getting rave reviews ! Available later this year.

@SteveODonnell 2 жыл бұрын

B mode on the Vauxhall is the regen brake mode.

@shadeauto3373 Жыл бұрын

Vauxhall/ I mean/ Peugeot, beating the giant VAG group. only a matter of time, I trust Jordan's assessment's

@daves4026 2 жыл бұрын

Great video can you get an 8 by 4 sheet in on edge in the back please?

@jimsouthlondon7061 2 жыл бұрын

Ford E Transit currently on customer trial in Germany . 10 000 UK pre orders already .

@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын

by it get teksa new cel 126mies too 146mioe tange

@spankeyspangler 2 жыл бұрын

Would love an electric van. Out of my reach price wise. Perfect for me single charge probably last nearly a week.

@jimsouthlondon7061 2 жыл бұрын

Lease Hire ?

@alastairclark9423 2 жыл бұрын

Actually cheaper to run than an equivalent petrol/diesel, would be cheaper in the long run

@Trucker_Tim Жыл бұрын

CCS stands for combined charging system

@Toneightydarts 2 жыл бұрын

B mode is breaking mode a bit like the one pedal breaking in the tesla drive my car in B mode all the time try it out!

@billyflanagan9657 2 жыл бұрын

I love mine I run it to 50% then do a quick top off 12 min to 80%

@Youtubecensoredmyusername 11 ай бұрын

Have a feeling Cory would have featured a guided tour of the battery storage area

@pllot7072 Жыл бұрын

B stands for Balls Deep. It's a new varient of L but deeper. ;)

@vd8642 2 жыл бұрын

Phew glad it wasn’t frosty lol

@joshstrom2791 2 жыл бұрын

I literally test drove one and spoke to vauxhall about it I'm a electrician and the main dealer said stay clear it wouldn't be suitable for me as the miles aren't great so I got a t6 instead

@thesalopgardener 10 ай бұрын

VW Transporter the iPhone of the van world. They're basically great to look at but are just the same van. Our sparkies of choise went from Transporters (had them since the T3!) to Transits about 8 years ago and have never looked back. Better value for money, better spec. Interestingly they moved to Vauxhall last year because they felt the Transits were soing the way of Transporters, and were getting bells and whistles to look the part but were basivally the same van. Intersting ro see your thoughts on the EV variant.

@kieranmccreedy271 2 жыл бұрын

So you listened to me on the electric Vivaro, Expert, Dispatch!!! 👏🏻 Paying for the badge with that pitiful VW!

@carholic-sz3qv 2 жыл бұрын

The ABT car was a really bad failure tbh, they should have at least put a 50-60kwh battery on it.

@camwinstone 2 жыл бұрын

Also ProAce and Ulysses.

@kieranmccreedy271 2 жыл бұрын

@@camwinstone I assume you mean Fiat Scudo? All the same van tbf On a business lease factoring VED, fuel and maintenance I wouldn’t be surprised if the electric one was cheaper too!

@camwinstone 2 жыл бұрын

@@kieranmccreedy271 yes, didn’t realise Fiat had different names for passenger/Cargo version.

@hdsempro62 2 жыл бұрын

Nice Opel

@blobstrom 2 жыл бұрын

Jordan, You need to drive an ordinary EV rather then your Tesla and you'll see it is exactly the same at the Vivaro van. B gives you more regenerative braking when you let off the throttle, many EV's have B mode (not all) All other EV's require you too press a button to put it into Park as far as I know. Although turning the ignition off also puts it into Park. and like a combustion car you have to turn them off, either by pressing a button or turning the key, like your Transit and Caddy vans. Tesla's being very unique have given you a different prospective of all the other EV's available.

@richardwalsh5882 7 ай бұрын

Opening the driver's door also puts it into Park - at least with the Citroën ë-Dispatch which is essentially the same van. (The ë-Dispatch is, of course, the better van though. All the cool kids drive them.)

@timallen6025 4 ай бұрын

Big fan of electric double side doors . No “slam bang, builders van” 35times a day on a street! And hands free, what’s not to like?

@0wnage718 2 жыл бұрын

Quick question guys has anyone had a charger fitted and have an MG ZSEV? My father has one and he is now on his second different charger and neither will charge the car overnight?

@stevehughes7224 2 жыл бұрын

Have you got an update on Viviro-E

@stevefo1524 9 ай бұрын

Does this come in a crew Cab? (With 5 or 6 seats)

@eugenegilleno9344 Жыл бұрын

A year on, and I’ve never seen one on the road.....they must be popular ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@BLX187 2 жыл бұрын

B is regen braking. wait to see how it drives when loaded

@Scottinuk 2 жыл бұрын

How do contractors get around the EV Connect & Notify with the DNO? Isn’t everything with a max demand above 60A supposed to be notified 10 working days before an install?

@haldo691 2 жыл бұрын

Most chargers are only 32a but they do notify the DNO

@Scottinuk 2 жыл бұрын

@@haldo691 I mean if a property has a max demand above 60A, aren’t the DNO having to visit to check the service cut out?

@haldo691 2 жыл бұрын

@@Scottinuk yes you can ask them to check and upgrade either the fuse and or cutout to 80a for free

@kinross24 2 жыл бұрын

Vivaro only Achilles heal was the engine and gearbox so remove that and replace with motor and battery your all sorted. Good range, fast charging and plenty room

@keithpardey1279 2 жыл бұрын

Nowt wrong with the engine and gearbox, it was the shit electrics

@kinross24 2 жыл бұрын

@@keithpardey1279 nah, lots of gearbox failures on Vivaro’s. The electric faults won’t be an issue with the ev version as doesn’t have same systems, looms etc.

@joenest2122 2 жыл бұрын

You got it for a month?! I asked Vauxhall for an extended test drive of 24hrs and was told "no - test drives are 30-45 minutes". I explained I couldn't make the deicison to swap my Transporter for an electric Vivaro in 45 minutes, but they weren't interested in trying to secure a sale.

@benitopussolini544 2 жыл бұрын

That's because they know it's shit!

@sharonbraselton4302 Жыл бұрын

chief csn

@richardwalsh5882 7 ай бұрын

Citroën gave me my ë-Dispatch for 24 hours (having already given me a test drive in it) as a demonstrator before becoming the lawful and legal owner of it.