Yeah he’s an old school style of player I think that’s why he gets along so well with LaRussa

You can translate a paragraph of scientific sounding into one sentence. He jumps on pitches and he doesnt swing for the fences.

@@seppshlllearningcenter419 I don’t think TA swings with data and information about launch angle or whatever in his mind but more he has a feel for how to swing that can’t be coached cause he makes good contact on some crazy pitches. It’s shocking just to watch it almost looks like luck.

I got into baseball bc of reading box scores and then analytics/sabrmetrics was an obvious destination and I totally agree! I'm a Guardians fan and the amount of ignorant dismissal based on statcast sabrmetrics and "exit velo" I saw on Twitter about Kwan was wild.

@@denistuohy2535 old school swing/approach but his style with bat flips and swagger is way more new school imo. He's got an old school approach but violates "unwritten rules"

He doesn't take good pitches and he doesnt swing for fences. I kind of miss the old school simple baseball talk. We don't need 3 page scientific papers to explain a good basehitter.

I think he's quickly escaping "fluke" territory but his low OBP, low walk rate, and high strike out rate is holding him back from super stardom for sure. He's improving in those categories tho. One thing that this video completely misses tho is his defense. He's been at best middle of the pack but usually among the worst in the league defensively among all shortstops. He's gotten marginally better but he still has a very long way to go to be even above average. Just for reference, in 2017 he had a DRS of -23!! That means his defense cost his team 23 runs during the season, this was worst in the league, second worst was -12 and the best was +41. He's gotten a lot better from then but I think that plays a bigger factor in how he's compared with other shortstops.

@@adidab14 I mean in 2017 he was a bad player on offense too, but yeah he’s been average on defense at best. But he’s a lead off monster and is fast to score a helluva amount of runs

Facts. And they know this they just don’t want to accept it 🤷🏾‍♂️

Maybe you just have a skill that caused you to "over perform" expectations. He also has exceeded his expected batting average, weighted On Base average (wOBA), and expected slugging every year. But it's 2 1/2 years of plate appearances now. Feels like that's a skill

watch the entire vid

@@ey4hunnid244 I did

He is the heart and soul of the White Sox as well. Great Player and leader. It was fun listening to him breakdown their plan of attack against Robbie Ray and he led the charge with a 3 hits off him I believe 3 rbis

He wasn’t “lucky” when he got knocked the fuqq out, fam

His BABIP dropped to .327 this season, which is still higher than average, and he's putting up -1.9 WAR. LOL. This guy was literally the luckiest player in baseball, and it's finally regressing to the mean.

As long as the obp is still desirable it's good, it just sucks because he's not powerful enough to be a good rbi guy, but not good enough obp (solid but not good enough to lead off) so he's in a weird middling position

@@mountaingoat595 bro what are you talking about

@@gcut24 what are YOU talking about?

@@dio696 he is definently good enough to lead off 💀

@@gcut24 he finished 73rd in OBP last year, behind guys like J.P. Crawford, Myles Straw, Josh Rojas, Luis Urias, Jean Segura, and Josh Harrison. If you think that I'd leadoff material (especially on the loaded White Sox offense), than you're crazy.

It's pretty much impossible to be lucky for 3 consecutive years

He’s by far the most important part of this team, he’s the straw that stirs the white sox drink

He is not a fluke, not after 3 and maybe 4 straight years of being the same guy. BABIP is not as robust as laymen think. TA seems like an enigma because BABIP assumes the direction and trajectory of the batted ball is random, which is to suggest that batting is purely defensive. And a single is regarded as a 'failed home run,' which is to say every hit ball is intended for lift and velocity. No one who watches him every day in context thinks he's overrated. Also, the grounder left side that TA hits is not the same thing as the one Paul Konerko hits. Different contexts. Exit velocity is spoken about way too much for what it is.

And that's why Joey Gallo is historically 'unlucky', he has insane exit velo and launch angle but he gets so much downspin he gets on less

@@jimmybelgium and he hits at defenses with 7 dudes waiting for him to pull it

See the backspin point sounds good, until you realize most of his batted balls are at low launch angles.

This isn’t holding up!

Ichiro was elite right away. TA sucked for the first couple years of his career

@@JramLisztfan Ichiro was 27 his rookie year. TA7 was 22 his rookie year.

No doubt ichiro was way better, and I know people didn’t talk about babip in 01’. I’m just saying if he puts together 4-5 consecutive years of good babip luck then is it really luck? Ichiro had the benefit of great speed as well as the ability to hit to all fields. I think TAs low isolated power leads to a lot of short line drives that fall before the outfielder.

@@theamateurobserver no doubt he was way better? In his best babip season, ichiro had exactly .399. He had a slightly higher batting averages (during a period where it was easier to hit) with less slugging. Even in his best seasons, less OPS, less OPS+ than TA.

That’s because nobody knew what babip was lmfao

Same, I'd take him in Cleveland anyday. He's Amed Rosario but better in every way except maybe power

Thank God you get it good sir. Tim Anderson is old school. Make contact and run like hell. It's very simple to understand. Stat geeks will preach about lauch angle, babip. Obp. Who cares? He gets the job done

@@sumner-kv3gh stat geeks never played baseball, change my mind.

@@johnnycatR58 I'm not gonna try. Unfortunately these same geeks are general managers. Granted some of these guys are brilliant but still how many players rotting away in the minors never got a chance because the stat geeks thought they weren't good enough

@@johnnycatR58 very true

He’s a very entertaining player to watch. He swings at a lot of pitches and makes a lot of contact. That in itself is more fan friendly than the new meta of taking 5-6 pitches every at bat.

That's exactly the reason why the public "perception" of ideas and performances are FAR different than the actual results. For instance, Derek Jeter has been one of the worst shortstops defensively throughout his career, but everyone thought he was a great defender and even won five gold gloves. He won a gold glove in a season where his dWAR was -1.8. Then there are analysts who actually analyzed why Jeter's defensive metrics were horrible, and it was clear as day that he was a bad defensive player (Jeter's dash to the grounder and a jump-turn throw is due to his lack of quickness and judgment on the ball's trajectory - for a good defensive shortstop, it would be a routine grounder.) Another example is Andruw Jones. Nobody knew how great he was in CF because he made every play look routine. It turns out that the plays that most CFs require to dash over and slide or dive to catch, he would simply take the shortest route based on his precision on the ball's trajectory and catch it under, standing. Andruw Jones is, to this day, statistically the greatest defensive CF to ever play the game (24.4 dWAR). Same thing for Tim Anderson. People thought he was a great player, and to be fair, he was pretty good for a few seasons. But due to his incredibly high BABIP, it was clear as day it wasn't gonna be sustainable in the long run, and it showed this season. The dude has -1.9 WAR this season, even with BABIP still above average at .327.

I didn't know anything about him until the Field of Dreams Game. He ended the game the way it was meant to be ended -- walk off HR into the corn!

Is it?

This didn’t age well

@@Trumpetjoe40 like a fine milk

@@Trumpetjoe40one homerun 2023 a hell of a year for Timmy 😂😂😂😂

I think I just saw today that it’s 38 times

If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t TA’s field of dreams home run off the first pitch of the AB?

I’m also a Red Sox fan and he’s a very similar player to boegarts

Nit play style but on how good they are there on a similar level

YEAAAAAA!! Let’s go mets! I got some Mets content on my channel hence my name I’m a die hard fan

This is aging extremely well, he's asleep mid game

@hawaiianwater1913 I now understand this thank your for the laugh🤣

Hearting this comment for the positive John Olerud comparison

Olerude walked 100+ times repeatedly and was a slow left handed hitting first baseman. I don’t see a similarity at all other than they both have hit over .300

@@subg8858 underrated

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I agree with what you're saying but isn't 3+ years kinda long term already?

His luck will run out eventually, maybe another 10-15 years max.

I think the thing you’re missing with these comparisons is Ichiro had a career 10% strikeout percentage. Gwynn’s was 4%. Boggs 7%. TA has a career *24%* strikeout percentage

@@maesophia4126 It’s a different league today than it was 20-30 years ago, much different. Anderson might not have the longevity or consistency over the course of his career like Gwynn or Ichiro did (it’s likely nobody ever will again), what I was saying is they all share a similarity in the way they overperform what many people consider to be the “sustainable zone” of BABIP luck.

@@SouthSydeChySox yeah you’re totally right that it’s a different game today. I’m just trying to point out that their games are very different. They all had good BABIPs during their career and in individual seasons (I believe Ichiro’s in 2004 was .399?). But like, Ichiro’s career BABIP during his Seattle years was .347. Thats obviously *very* good, but it’s dramatically lower than TA’s BABIP since 2019 (.387), which itself is much higher than his career rate (.354). This 100% is not meant to be like an anti-TA point like, I think it would be cool AF if he were a true talent 400 BABIP dude. Just trying to explain there’s a difference between the names you mention and what TA is doing now. It’s less about people being dogmatically sabermetric (which certainly can be a thing, especially among fans who just learned about it lol) and more explaining that the counter to SRS’s argument is much more nuanced and reasonable than perhaps it’s being portrayed. All in good fun tho, hope TA keeps it up 🤞

You just be an astros fan

Yeah the argument about TA7 died after he maintained it for 2-3 seasons.

In small samples BABIP can be very volatile regarding luck, but long term luck washes away and it becomes a reliable stat that results from factors such as the quality of contact a player makes, their speed, and their overall hitting profile. To say it is "primarily an indicator of batted ball luck" is not accurate. That only applies in small samples.

Anderson had a terrible season. Ever heard of xg in soccer? Kinda a big deal…