Is Triumph's new 2021 Speed Triple 1200 RS a step too far?

Is Triumph's new 2021 Speed Triple 1200 RS a step too far? | MCN First Ride

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Neevesy gives his first impressions after riding the new Speed Triple 1200 RS in this in-depth video review. We tested the bike on both the road and on track to see how it really feels.
We cover the Speed Triple's design, price, speed, history and everything you need to know about the new 2021 bike and more importantly answering the question: 'Is the Triumph's new 2021 Speed Triple 1200 RS a step too far?'
Let us know what you think in the comments!
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@davidpersson986 3 жыл бұрын

Best reviewer ever! Feel like I know what I want after listening to Neeves. Brings out the nuances and selling points of each bike. Nice contrast to all the reviewers out there full of general praise of little use to who is trying to navigate in the wonderful world of motorcycles

@motorcyclenewsdotcom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We appreciate your comments.

@williamdavies550 3 жыл бұрын

this is the same guy that said the R1 was a comfortable bike

@sabihasultana5914 2 жыл бұрын

@@williamdavies550 0

@marscruz 3 жыл бұрын

I always think that Michael does the best job in defining the niche each test bike fits into. He knows what kind of rider is going to enjoy whatever bike he is talking about. All riders are different and I appreciate the fact that he is trying to give us the profile of type of rider each bike was built to satisfy. There is no "best bike" per se. There is only the "best fit" for your requirements. Thanks for that.

@richardcurtis2469 3 жыл бұрын

That's a fair point. I will take that on board. It's me I think. I am 64. Still ride bikes got a Honda cb600 hornet been restored fully . It's 22 years old. So I think I'm still stuck in the 1970s

@michaelmarston237 3 жыл бұрын

To heavy abs comes in to early .

@Zekenificent 3 жыл бұрын

I love the comment he made about the KTM Super Duke only needing its front tire when it is parked 😆.

@diablo5744 3 жыл бұрын

ha, i just said this without readnig through the comments, im deleting my comment ! lol

@Zekenificent 3 жыл бұрын

@@diablo5744 no worries, don't delete your comment

@countryjoe3551 2 жыл бұрын

I've ridden one enough to completely understand and agree with him.

@greenambles 3 жыл бұрын

1:52 “That doesn’t even need it’s front wheel unless it’s parked” 🤣🤣🤣👍🏼

@johnnyrodrigo2030 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha I laughed a lot. I have a 2017 1290 SuperDuke GT, and even for the Grand Tourer it’s true 😂😂

@panchochilli11 3 жыл бұрын

I really like the way you summarize where this bike fits into the category. Really useful info for a buyer. Great job as always, my favourite reviews.

@motorcyclenewsdotcom 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Bajker4ever 3 жыл бұрын

Its time for new Daytona 1200 :)

@shawnlack1527 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the Daytona needs a Liter bike. Or a production Norton.

@bboness713 3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes! I'll second that!

@Benjay1975 3 жыл бұрын

The people have spoken

@WegrennerX 3 жыл бұрын

Love the look of that old beast

@jastheacenz 3 жыл бұрын

Yessssssssss plzzzzzzzzzzzz

@samiam5326 3 жыл бұрын

Great review and comparison. Thank you. Who else wants to see a shoot out between the new Speed Triple, new S1000R, and new Tuono 1100 RR?

@beetleything1864 3 жыл бұрын

lamb chop rides - compares the triumph to the Tuono

@flubbyhog 3 жыл бұрын

I love the way neeves dissects a bike; the good, the bad and the competition in there’s too. Never a bad review. Always makes me think about something I didn’t think about before. Well done!

@andrewprice1189 3 жыл бұрын

The only reviewer worth listening too these days is Mr Neeves. Sets the standard all others aim for

@douglashodge334 3 жыл бұрын

Neeves is the only bike reviewer I can happily listen to talking for 20 mins. Great review and what a machine!

@bokiNYC 2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%!

@the510wagon 3 жыл бұрын

Neevesey is the best reviewer. Very wise. I always appreciate the background info he gives about the history of a bike & where it sits relative to the category & competitors. I would love a new ST1200RS... But pricing in Australia is rude.

@suereed 3 жыл бұрын

The birds are so happy. I honestly though they were outside MY window.

@MMPAspergerian 3 жыл бұрын

I thought they were outside also; maybe it's because I had too many beers?

@Senninha1960 3 жыл бұрын

It must have been one of the 5 days a year that the sun is out in UK

@stevecrocker6904 3 жыл бұрын

now here's a gentleman who does his product preparation and has set what he is going to say. No "ums", "ahs" and cliches of the would-be reviewers. I'll listen to him any time

@bokiNYC 2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%!

@ericaworthington2675 3 жыл бұрын

High power? Great for 2-up, eg Busa is a fabulous 2-up sport tourer. I can't wait to see this engine in a revised Tiger Sport, for 2-up. Please, Triumph, bring us a Tiger Sport 1200!

@craigmason6656 3 жыл бұрын

Nice realistic review Neevsy. I'll be sticking with my 18 RS thanks. Hope this sells well though. Cheers from Melbourne.

@lensoprezole5322 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Michael, your comparison between all the bikes of the supernaked category is just GOLD 👍 Thank you very much. Very useful to guide us for a purchase. Precise enough even though I love to learn more about technical details. Now, waiting for the icing on the cake with the Tuono V4 factory review 😍 Take care.

@gjkMN 2 жыл бұрын

I love Neevesy's reviews because he talks about things like feel and character, and all the things I can't know myself just from reading the spec sheet.

@Andy-2022 3 жыл бұрын

This is the second review that says a negative about the ride quality. A bit of a let down because this bike will spend most of its time on the bumpy road. Adaptive suspension would have sorted that

@lexusrcflover9175 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely in love with my Street Triple 675r I couldn't imagine it with 70 more hp this bike must be madness...👌

@4130Media 3 жыл бұрын

this isn't first ride, this is a thorough review! very well done, always a pleasure to listen to Neeves' reviews

@vtwin6683 3 жыл бұрын

Always a balanced in depth review from Michael and a pleasure to watch. Great stuff 👍

@baccaratfitness2360 3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate your review technique, simple, direct, relaxed and thorough.

@duc899 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely bike, typically great review. The most helpful in picking a bike I've seen - much appreciated sir.

@trevorphillips3055 3 жыл бұрын

Think I'll stick with my 2014 street triple 675r, it's all you need for the road and still great fun to ride. No BS electronics just abs.

@shadowred1980 3 жыл бұрын

Great review. Michael gets the details across in a way very few others can. Hats off sir.

@niksingh22 3 жыл бұрын

big 👍 for MCN.. for showing full review of triumph rs1200👍🇮🇳

@FunAllDayLong4353 3 жыл бұрын

Top stuff, by far the best review of the 2021 Speed Triple 1200RS I've seen so far.

@VikingBagsYT 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Just wanted to say we here at Viking Bags really appreciate your content! Keep up the good job!

@MrBlueberrypie44 3 жыл бұрын

Well done Neevesy One of the best reviews of any bike I've seen on YT. I'm not a Triumph hero, but I do like them. And once again, Neevesy has spoken truth on the matter. Exceptional awareness and detail. Thanks MCN.. and Keep up the good work

@MrMikey1703 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike, I like this new style of reviewing - as in giving your thoughts a day or so after riding the bikes. It's so easy to get caught up in the excitement of being on a new generation machine that you aren't able to take stock and have some rational thoughts. Being a newish 1290 SDR owner (after 5 Trumpy's inc a S3), I don't think that I should test ride one of these as it's bound to cost me a lot of money and a at least month sleeping in the kennel. :D

@vknair6652 3 жыл бұрын

The best motorcycle reviewer on KZfaq.

@madpekon 3 жыл бұрын

I have been waiting for the review since day one. As always spot on.

@motorcyclenewsdotcom 3 жыл бұрын

It's always worth waiting for!

@MrMRTravac 3 жыл бұрын

Lovely review honestly felt as if I've been out on the bike myself

@movem1 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant review and really impressed with Triumph for jumping into the ring with this one. Can't wait to see it at my local dealer

@michaelspreyer5619 3 жыл бұрын

Great review which helped me enormously as it’s real objective. First time I’ve seen Michael Neeves as a reviewer but will follow him by now. He does a real amazing job!

@TheJWC56RSA 3 жыл бұрын

You are spot on!! I have both the Super Duke R and the Streetfighter V4 S. To be honest they are much to much for the road as you said! I think I enjoyed my MT09 much more!! I'd love the SDR and the SFV4 rather with more torque and less speed! More to enjoy on the road and not to go to a track.... It is getting stupid now! Who want to start to enjoy a bike at 9000 rpm and up?? Regards!!

@lensoprezole5322 3 жыл бұрын

TheJWC56 : you are totally right but unfortunately a lot of guys are "retarded" they think the more powerful bike is the best. They think like kids. I wonder if they have already riden on a 180 hp bike with the throttle wide open. And that's even without talking about all the guys never going above 6000 RPM because they are too scared. All they can say is "THE BEAST" on youtube ahah.

@robertbermudez4458 2 жыл бұрын

Mt 09 sp 👍

@GOINFINITI 3 жыл бұрын

Love it how you explain the bike - you can really understand the feel of riding one.

@wolfgangsimon1509 3 жыл бұрын

Love the style of your reviews, very informative and competent. Thumbs up

@mocky1220 3 жыл бұрын

170+ hp feels just enough for the road.. Whoa! 😉

@pratik649 3 жыл бұрын

The introduction was very well laid out

@DJPTEXAS 3 жыл бұрын

Best reviewer by far ! great job as always...

@richardpearson4248 3 жыл бұрын

Great video at last a review were the old speed triple rs hasn't been slated over the new speed triple rs 🇬🇧👍

@JamesCAsphalt8 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, well thought out, well presented and researched review. Thank you.

@timothymills733 3 жыл бұрын

Spot on Sir. I have thought this for some time, yet most Journos, not yourself of course, have been complaining about the "low" power of the machines that have "only" 150BHP,. Your perspective is very refreshing. Also, I would go so far as to say that 99.99% of riders can't even use the performance of the super-nakeds on the track.

@lensoprezole5322 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, a lot of riders have poor riding skills on the track. They try to put their knee down but they keep their head behind the windscreen at the same time. LOL !

@benkelly2190 3 жыл бұрын

A great review, telling me all I need to know..keep my 2018 speedy RS . Thanks👍🏻

@ulrichfriehe3459 3 жыл бұрын

From abroad I loved to listen to your explanations; it's a wonderful bike both to ride and to look at.

@ManishKumar-iv7ld 3 жыл бұрын

I've see So Many of Ur Videos.. U are So Articulate & to the Point !! Fantastic Review (as Always) & What a Way, to Describe How the Triumph Speed Triple 1200 RS REALLY Feels / Behaves !! Thanks again :)

@silkysmooth7900 3 жыл бұрын

I love my '09 triple. It's perfect.

@I_am_Monty 3 жыл бұрын

Hands down the best motorcycle reviewer. I like the video even before I watch it! I have got so much info/skills from watching Michael's videos. Sounds like an awesome naked bike 👌

@chris8949 3 жыл бұрын

Thx for the exeptional good reviews you provide. Best!

@pascalborrens5708 3 жыл бұрын

Great review like always, very curious to see you test riding the new Tuono 👏🏼👍🏼✊🏼

@victorpintotapia4874 3 жыл бұрын

Superb review. Greetings from Ecuador.

@DearMajesty 3 жыл бұрын

Great review Neevesy! One of the few journalists a rider can trust these days. A very nice, complete and nuanced review!

@reececampbell2609 2 жыл бұрын

Superb review. 👌Was thinking of buying a 2021 but hardly ever manage to get to the track. Now assessing 2020 options. Thank you for the guidance.

@TheDroelfzig 3 жыл бұрын

Nice Video, nice expressions from you, at least the end with the clip ons. ;-) greetings a T509 rider from Germany :-)

@MrBiggles 3 жыл бұрын

Love MCN ❤️. Sounds like a nice bike, Cheers Neevesy 👍🏻

@MOTOUK1 2 жыл бұрын

Great review, when I reviewed the bike in last two weeks also I found for the road it just was missing something that sense of occasion. My standard street bike I ride daily is the MT10SP so coming from that I was a little disappointed. Agree for track amazing but at the end of the day it’s a road bike so needs to be more road focused like the earlier Speed Twins were. Thanks Michael 👍

@matthewkonopka3012 3 жыл бұрын

Just got a 2020 S3(outgoing model). Dream to ride. So glad I picked one up before they are all gone. A true masterpiece to the Speed Triple name.

@CNCycle 3 жыл бұрын

Great review. Really like that you're honest about the good and not so good. This was high on my list but I don't think it is anymore. Thanks again.

@pclark6068 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear a balanced review of this new bike, I maybe a little bit biased as I have an 18 RS, but some of the other journalists gushing over the bike’s power and track ability, missing the point of how is it as a day to day road bike which most people probably use them for! They also gave glowing reviews of the previous model, yet seem to suggest how bad it is now !! Great video and detail especially against its rivals in this class 👍

@peter_king 3 жыл бұрын

Love this review. Just fantastic content. Don't generally bother with the paper these days but this vid has earned my sub'.

@col.sirbuffyhorsetrouser9158 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent review - as an owner of the 1050, you have just confirmed two things in my mind: 1. if you don't do track days (how many people buy a bike with this primarily in mind?), this is the wrong choice for a Triumph urban Sports bike, and 2. its got more power than can realistically be used on the road, and the older versions are a far better choice. Shame that Triumph took such a successful blend of power, looks and plush road abilities, and turned the (only new) version into a primarily track-focused bike that, it seems doesn't have the charm, all-round abilities and enjoyment that the outgoing versions had. I suspect that the depreciation on these will be high when people who buy them are disappointed that they aren't as everyday-friendly and UK road usable as all the previous the 1050's. Long live the 1050's!

@melowd7779 3 жыл бұрын

Best Mc reviews on KZfaq, hands down.

@kevinhamilton9920 2 жыл бұрын

Just bought the 2022 rs. Picking up Wednesday. My uncle has the same bike. Can't wait to pick her up.

@hawaiielite 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Best review of this bike on youtube

@masseyfergusonab 3 жыл бұрын

You are the best reviewer Hands down• 👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️

@motorcyclenewsdotcom 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that

@petercarr6599 3 жыл бұрын

Great watch buddy, thankyou ❤️

@jonwalters6939 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent informed test with great comparisons to its rivals. Telling it like it is!

@fido0825 3 жыл бұрын

As always Neevesy gives another excellent review! As a hick from Missouri, USA, I could listen to him talk all day about square root tables or antique coffee pots. He wins my "Best Online Bike Reviewer" award hands down both for his knowledge and insight as well as his accent (yes, you guys in GB have the accent). Chopsy would be 2nd!

@fyorbane 3 жыл бұрын

Great review Neevsey. Shame that Triumph have made the new Speedy a little too track orientated with that setup. I have just watched a full review of the new 1100 Tuono Factory and the guy could not stop gushing over it. He actually went as far as to say it was the best bike he has ever tested. And it looks gorgeous. As ever a tremendous job of describing what the new Speedy is all about. Take care and ride safe.

@iantouzel638 3 жыл бұрын

Your the man , best on the web. I was thinking about selling the my S1000R for the new Spedd triple, but where i live i need heated grips and dynamic damping. The road is a nightmare in Québec , holes, bumps, cracks.

@mathiashammar1 3 жыл бұрын

Great review and honesty about the bike! Seams like Triumph hit a big one with this for the more sporty riders. They nailed the chassi, TFT screen, engine and powertrain. Its a ripper with those nice tyres.

@johanhasan4707 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent review as always, Neevesy 👍🏼

@waynepritchard7233 2 жыл бұрын

A fascinating and honest review. This guy really knows his stuff. Outstanding video.

@xRever95 3 жыл бұрын

Picking up my 2021 Tuono V4 Factory this tuesday :) Hope you do a review of that beast aswell :)

@gabrieljohannson6777 3 жыл бұрын

xRever95 you are about to experience what many people only dream about. I'm an ex-Tuono V4 owner. 2017 model. The Tuono is a magical bike Magical. You'll enjoy it beyond words.

@xRever95 3 жыл бұрын

@@gabrieljohannson6777 I've had it for over a day now. Just putting the first miles into it. Came from a ninja 400 that i've had for two years. Great machine, lots of power. But being cautious with it, even though its really easy to ride. Cant wait to see what the different YT channels will think of it :)

@larrysweetser4198 3 жыл бұрын

Best editor on two wheels

@philipjames3526 3 жыл бұрын

In the market for a new bike. Keep seeing the 'old' Speed Triple RS new for 12k - I would like to see a comparison of the 1050 RS to the new 1200.

@Sean-oq3ox 3 жыл бұрын

I just bought a 2019 speed rs. You don't need anymore power than that for road use. Plus I like the looks better and how it feels bigger than a street triple.

@Andy-2022 3 жыл бұрын

Ditto, old bike is brilliant

@philipjames3526 3 жыл бұрын

@@Sean-oq3ox Yeah - I have the Street RS. And the only thing that 'appeals on the 1200 RS is what would appear to be a more top endy revy engine. I really just need to see if I can get a test ride on the 1050. As 0 still has Ohlins, up and down quick shifter. More than enough power. And personally. Looks pretty cool.

@marchaywood9378 Жыл бұрын

really helpful review, and could not have made my buying decision without it :)

@Jandejongjong 2 жыл бұрын

One of the best reviews Thumbs up!

@pistolpete6321 3 жыл бұрын

Great review, very informative!

@stuarthorn8398 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent review as always. Thank you very much

@bikerbuddy3166 3 жыл бұрын

Loved the old one ☝️ agree with everything you said , another good review as ever , stay safe

@markreynolds8630 3 жыл бұрын

What an excellent review! Thanks.

@CubanRider 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed every bit of the video. One correction I have to point out is that the new S1000R does not get the shiftcam from the RR, it gets the same engine as the 2020+ S1000XR. I can deal with a bit of suspension stiffness on the 1200 RS, hoping to pick one up soon.

@allwheeldrive 3 жыл бұрын

Great review. And, more to your point about going too far, I've got an '09 Speed I've put several thousand miles on. It is a total blast to ride. And even with a measly 130hp, it has *always* been more than powerful enough on the street. But even that version has one of the sweetest engines ever made. But like this one, the ride is always very firm, always ready to attack. And the ergos made my last 500-mile trip...challenging. It might be because I have a VStrom 1000 to choose from, but it is still spot-on for the days when you just want to play.

@matthewburhans4355 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love my 07 speed triple! Although mine does have clip-ons, for my 6'4 body it's still a very comfortable bike to ride and I ride it most days to the office. I would say to whomever wants a raw feel of a bike unlike all the tech the newer models have I would recommend the 2005-2010 model speed triple. Me personally I wouldn't want a newer bike, since I love the raw feeling and knowing that you're in full control of the bike rather than a computer is just a feeling you'll never stop loving.

@startodo 2 жыл бұрын

After watching Double D's speed I wanna chuck a set of clip on's on my 2013 speed triple..

@speedybobblehead9382 3 жыл бұрын

Great review, I have no interest in change my 2018RS for this one, it’s every thing I need and more 😍

@zachghanie8894 2 жыл бұрын

Great chat on bike ...its the bird sanctuary he was in that got me birds tweeting lol ...but great spill on bike

@michaelhayward7572 3 жыл бұрын

I've watched a bunch of new S3 reviews. This one, honestly is comfortably, the best of the rest.

@kubak5306 3 жыл бұрын

Great review. Thank you .

@Ndeasington 3 жыл бұрын

Only one question. Can you turn anti-wheelie off? Great review. Thanks

@barrygreen1883 3 жыл бұрын

Great review thanks. I am torn between the Triumph and the 2021 Tuono Factory. Mainly for road use. Test rode the Tuono this morning which I loved, great handling and fuelling. I am still waiting for the Triumph demo to arrive at the dealership, I’m told next week !!! What would be your recommendation ? Thanks in advance, best regards. Barry

@Firestorm637 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with you!! The Middle weights are the new Goldilocks bikes. Nice to have Halo bikes to show off new tech that will end up on their lower bikes. The Streetfighter is 208 horsepower but around town are you hiting 12,000 rpm plus.

@garysmith2983 3 жыл бұрын

I love my 848 Streetfighter. Traded my Blade for it last Sept and wish I’d made the change years ago.

@leandrocintrao67 3 жыл бұрын

This channel is pretty awesome, stay true!

@carlosarques 3 жыл бұрын

Best & honest reviewer ever! Period.

@savgs-ei6ch 3 жыл бұрын

Great review the fact you couldn't soften up the suspension for the road really surprised me.. something for triumph to think about?

@MadChalet 3 жыл бұрын

I wonder ... can't a switch in the spring(s) heal this problem? Sure, at that kind of money it seems like something that shouldn't be, but in the end the cost wouldn't be that much. Maybe I'm off in the gravel. (Same goes for tires ... if the tires aren't great it doesn't mean the bike won't be great with a proper set.)

@lordgibbness 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wonder if triumph will listen and adjust for the next model year? Else the only option will be a spring swap.

@lordgibbness 3 жыл бұрын

@@TylerTron21 Preload is just to set the front to rear loading. Only the spring + compression damping will affect the feeling of stiffness.

@lordgibbness 3 жыл бұрын

@@TylerTron21 yes agree preload is needed to put the bike into the correct working range. But predominantly it will set the front to rear bias. However, only spring rate and compression damping will affect stiffness (preload will not affect this).

@lordgibbness 3 жыл бұрын

@@TylerTron21 I know suspension theory. Please yourself if that's what you want to think. Cheers.

@donaldduck9424 3 жыл бұрын

As usual a very good, detailled and honest review. The Speed as well as the Street Triple RS are ment a little too sporty i think. But the Speed RS will sell like hotcakes i guess. It's just too beautyful :-). So Triumph has done a good job;-) . S1000R does not come with the shift cam engine by the way.

@robinsmiggy3884 3 жыл бұрын

Great test as always Neevsy, agree with your summary except the new Beemer S1000R isn’t getting the shift cam is it? At least not yet, mistake? Full test soon hopefully. Great choice out there now, well done Triumph for getting stuck in to the fight at the upper end. MCN still the go to tests