Is upwork worth it in 2024?
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4 ай бұрынMaybe this makes me a "guru" but I just can't give away everything I know for free, I'm sorry. I want to help people, but trying to help everybody requires a lot more time, effort, and energy than I initially thought. And doing everything for free just took time away from me running my own agency and I wasn't really able to help people because I was just giving 1 sentence answers to very complex and complicated questions.
So, I created The Mogul thinking that it would be better to FULLY help 1 person, than to partially help 100 people. Everything, all in one place to help someone succeed to the best of my ability while getting paid for my work. I'm pretty confident I can bring anyone success as long as they are willing to put in the effort on their end. If you watched my free videos on KZfaq, imagine the value I would give you if I was actually getting paid.
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@shivam_7208 3 ай бұрын
this is truth that no one tells and every freelancers should be ready for this situations because this are common thing to happen with freelancers. we need this type of content litterally not the sugar coated side of upwork which u get after this struggles
@tonybp Ай бұрын
I tried the freelance life for a year, put a lot of effort into it but it didn't work out for me. There's a lot of competition and a lot of scammer clients. I went back to a normal job and life is much simpler.
@shuvra-kumar-das 13 күн бұрын
What kind of job do you do now?!?
@user-ul8qf3fg5d 3 ай бұрын
Respect to you for putting in the hard work. Good riddens of that customer. How unfair, punishing the working guy. Never engage with royalty customers like that one again. He sent his assistant for discussions and then just yelled without knowing all the infos. That is the tyran customer. Avoid that kind of person at all costs. You need to know to select your customers. That is why a video call is very important. You need to make sure the customer is a humble, reasonable person, has all the infos and is engadged. Ask all the questions upfront. If he doesn't have the patience for them, say goodbye.
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
Exactly what I do now. Learned a lot from that experience
@houseofmotivation2115 3 ай бұрын
You are man of humanity Thomas ❤❤❤
@sonicmilk Ай бұрын
The example you talked about at the end of the video happens in full time employment as well. It's called ego tripping and you are right the winning move is to try to tell them what they want to hear. Good video.
@guinness11 3 ай бұрын
I just recently discovered your channel and have been thinking about starting on Upwork. It's good to get some insight from a real person. Much appreciated and thank you!
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
No problem!
@zapy422 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the honest opinion
@sheabulislam1965 Ай бұрын
I agree with you, "let just give what client want"
@ragethesystem-zl2tv Ай бұрын
Thanks man, really appreciate your insight. Thinking about trying Upwork.
@RalphJaysonSantiago 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for giving us warning and encouragement at the same time. 🔥♥️
@vietsonnguyen7037 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your sharing
@Not_Lactoselntolerant 21 күн бұрын
Working with people is the hardest part of any job and its especially bad when you're an introvert.....facts, logic and commonsense don't work with extroverts.... There's a soft skill that you're either born with or without but had to develop....
@Sirbikingviking 3 ай бұрын
You have an amazing channel, thanks for your knowledge and input.
@chrisdoukiris7132 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing Thomas!
@maurooldani4036 18 күн бұрын
Very good video thx, keep doing content
@helperboy5020 Ай бұрын
thx thomas. Valuable info.
@tulip856 5 күн бұрын
thanks for sharing this real feeing, learned a lot form it❤❤❤
@thedesignventures 3 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing
@vladarodic9683 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate this but i think better would be to reach out to clients by yourself and pick clients by yourself,just pick a niche and choose a channel. I think most of the clients on platforms they expect for you to know what they need because they don’t know exactly to explain the work that is needed,plus they are cheap and needy and you don’t give them expectations
@harshaliyanage01 20 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤️
@martinbel 3 сағат бұрын
One trick I've used with difficult clients is canceling the contract once I see they are unreasonable. Generally the don't know they have 15 days to leave feedback. It's a risk but it worked a few times ;).
@sohfihamid4164 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insight. I have been on Upwork for a while but its just met with dissapointment. One client did not even bother to pay me even when the task completed (though this client was too fussy). DId a lot of upfront prep for each proposals but no reply. It just not easy!
@MaxCenDev 3 ай бұрын
I don't know what your profession is, but I started about a couple of months ago, sent over 80 proposals, and got one job for $25. It's worth mentioning that, like you, I spend some time on each proposal. So yea, it's very, very hard.
@shuvra-kumar-das 13 күн бұрын
@@MaxCenDevhow much did you spend on connects?
@MaxCenDev 13 күн бұрын
@@shuvra-kumar-das The cost of proposals varies, but I believe the average is 10 connects, so I spend roughly $80 on that. I was able to get more jobs and even earn a 'Top Rated' badge, but this hasn't changed things much.
@shuvra-kumar-das 13 күн бұрын
@@MaxCenDev how much did you earn roughly after spending 80$ on connects?
@MaxCenDev 11 күн бұрын
@@shuvra-kumar-das That is my main issue. I got a $25 job and spent roughly $80. Three months later, I have a little over $1,350 in earnings, and I believe I spent around $200 on connects. If you're thinking about making money on Upwork, consider this: to get the "Top Rated" badge, you need to make over $1,000 in the last 12 months. That will place you within the top 12% of earners on Upwork. To get the "Top Rated Plus" badge, you need to make more than $10,000 in the last 12 months. Only 3% of freelancers have this badge. This means Upwork as a main source of income makes absolutely no sense for people living in the Western world.
@TezhibArtisanStudio 3 ай бұрын
I’ve had similar experience n that was my first and last on upwork
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
You gave up?
@undergroundvgt 2 ай бұрын
That 1 star review was a power struggle. That guy was a real jerk but glad u learned from it and didn't quit
@tomsetberg4746 Ай бұрын
I took a look at it and found it almost wholly waste of time. It takes so long to find a job that isn't insane that your time is much much better spent just doing your own projects on KZfaq and Patreon. I work in game design and development and most work is someone wanting you to steal your own work and give it to them for minimum pay. Or they want a best selling MMO in 1 month. It's actually ridiculous. Then Upwork doesn't really filter. So you get days where you're flooded with art requests that frequently have nothing to do with your field let alone your specialty. So just focus on your KZfaq and Patreon and then leverage those on a professional page like LinkedIn to get an actual stable job (that generally pays more).
@ChicagoJ351 2 ай бұрын
I don’t know anything about upwork, but do clients get reviews? It seems it would be helpful. If it was me, I think your view of giving them what they want to hear is a good approach. But I think also recognizing when there is a dependency on the client and how you could get setup to take the fall. Making sure everything is documented if possible so that boss could get all the details presented to him. I think the other manager should have handled that differently. It’s not ethical that the manager let you take the fall.
@chillydoog 2 ай бұрын
Man, thank you for this advice. I feel like your situation with that bad client is so typical of agencies, especially when they hold so much leverage over you. I didn't realize they could just end the contract and drop you so quickly and then tarnish your reputation. That's such a dick move. Do you have any advice on how to filter out these potentially toxic clients? It seems like once you're in a contract with them they just hold all the power over you as a freelancer. I would love to know if you have found any red flags to look out for to avoid getting into these situations in the future.
@elisabethw.alfanisa2998 3 ай бұрын
Wow.. I love this kind of content! It’s so raw, no editing, just your honest sharing, and more importantly it speaks FACTS👍🏼 I am starting off my freelancing journey with 5+ years working experience before and its been uneasy for me to get client from Upwork. Do you have any tips to attract the first client? Cuz I think the first client will be very significant.. Thankss🙏🏼
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! I can probably go for hours on tips to attract clients.. I'll try to shorten the points and create a video on it!
@infofromBeKind Ай бұрын
I just started - how long do you wait for a proposal? I was invited to apply for a job and it's been 10 days and I have yet to hear back either way.
@emmanuelthompson32 Ай бұрын
mw personally straight up i cancle the project , it always shocks them
@kumargupta7149 2 ай бұрын
You said update is really nice.
@edgardrcha Ай бұрын
hi thomas how could i talk to you about the skills to learning in order to start working on upwork
@minimayzee Ай бұрын
The worse even happen in a full time design job. Got our contract, then the client asks for discount and additional inclusion of deliverables. So yeah, then when they asked for addt'l items, we told them it'll have addt'l cost then they would say we are poor.
@oneminutenglish 2 ай бұрын
What up man! One question please, do you think graphic design now in 2024 or learning to do youtube thumbnails with adobe worth learning as a complete beginner to start on up work?
@FlifnoFun Ай бұрын
Yes great skills to have
@infofromBeKind 24 күн бұрын
What is the most interesting job offer you have received on Upwork? I just had a guy reach out and ask if I would plan his proposal for him. Is that normal?
@infofromBeKind 24 күн бұрын
Is ageism or ghosting something a person has to worry about with Upwork? I was part of a round of layoffs and when I was applying for full time jobs, my unemployment coach told me to take all my credentials off my resume otherwise it shows how old I am and people would think I've over qualified and I'd never get an interview. Is that similar in the freelancing world?
@MrGreen087 2 ай бұрын
Man, I have been on Upwork since 2016 - Expert Vetted Freelancer. Yet, not able to find any descent project for the last one year or so. Contradictoty to what you are saying, the number of freelancers from US and Canada has grown a lot since Covid and its much harder for someone outside North America or UK / EU to compete (like in my case). What is more suprising is that those freelancers from western countries are offering a very competitive rates these days. Nobody cares about pension and medical insurances anymore - instead operating from cheaper cities without 9-5 commitment
@chillydoog 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your insights. Im curious what industry you are in and what type of freelance work do you offer?
@MrGreen087 Ай бұрын
@@chillydoog Fractional CMO - Digital Marketing
@bbbbjjj7002 Ай бұрын
Same thing here. I believe the problem is with upwork recommendation algorithms first of all.
@user-dr7qe5bl7l 3 ай бұрын
Hi Thomas. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. One question. I'm new in Up Work and your idea just clicked on me. I'm planning to do a job similar us you. But Im wondering how did you start with your portfolio?. Did you ask your workers about their jobs or how was your approach? Thanks
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
I did that as well as create my own work examples. Created a video on it too you can check it out
@sikkidesigns Ай бұрын
Next Video Thomas "How to manage clients especially on Upwork?" plzzzz!!!
@Maldives2025 Ай бұрын
its a 9 - 5 but in your room
@codersoll Ай бұрын
Way more better than working a regular job where you have no control over your job
@Maldives2025 28 күн бұрын
@@codersoll pros and cons depends on the job :) as you can see there is a lot you don't have control over on Upwork and have to pander to clients
@codersoll 28 күн бұрын
@@Maldives2025 still better in my opinion
@TyroneEntertainingJoseph Ай бұрын
I’ve just signed up to Upwork bro and I wanted to ask is it safe? Like I don’t want to apply for a job and I don’t get paid 😤😤😤😤🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@UltraPayrollMaster Ай бұрын
pls post the URL to your upwork profile (so i can see the 1 star review).
@glenarroyo3688 24 күн бұрын
What kind of work you do?
@spirkinp 3 ай бұрын
Hi Thomas! Great video What do you think, in which areas to gain experience and develop projects?) I would be grateful for your advice)
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
There's tons you can choose from, I could tell you what I chose, but it might not be right for you You have to do the research to find one yourself
@spirkinp 3 ай бұрын
@@ThomasIm I will be very grateful if you would tell me)
@AmeerHamza-cy6km 9 күн бұрын
I faced this client attitude problem twice. It is frustrating.
@elgalgotranquilo 3 ай бұрын
Hey, thank you for the video. I havent't started yet on upwork, but I did freelance jobs before. How do the contracts work? I usually ask for 50% in advance so I don't work for free. How do you manage this? What happens when a client cancels his contract? I'm not sure how this works on Upwork.
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
Pretty simple, just let the client know beforehand. When a client ends the contract, the contract ends. There's really not much to it
@elgalgotranquilo 3 ай бұрын
Perfect! Thank you again@@ThomasIm:)
@truthseeker3140 2 ай бұрын
Hi Thomas. You stated you got a 1 star review. Is it possible for clients to leave a bad review if you haven't accepted any money from the client. If it isn't possible I think it may be best just to cancel the job rather than get a bad review.
@ThomasIm 2 ай бұрын
The JSS still gets affected either way, and the project was a $900 project. I didn't want to refund that
@truthseeker3140 2 ай бұрын
@@ThomasIm thanks for your response. Here is what I read on an Upwork forum: If you refund and the earnings 0 from the contract only public feedback will be hidden, any positive or negative private feedback is still counted towards JSS calculation. If the project value is high do not agree to the refund, go for feedback removal option available to Top Rated. If she is determined to leave a bad feedback you are better off ending the contract yourself. If you have completed the contract as per the terms discussed and agreed do agree to refund.
@Jaffy712 3 ай бұрын
Hi Thomas, I appreciate your insight for Upwork platform. I am on another IT Professional platform with 775 projects completed. I usually don't take projects from clients who have less than 4 stars which I can read their reviews given by other IT Pros. Doesn't Upwork have similar system that you can give and read the clients reviews too?
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
Yes, but a lot of clients don't have reviews
@preciouskennedy6370 3 ай бұрын
Do you use other platform apart from Upwork?
@basedblueboy8770 2 ай бұрын
Can you let me know the platform for IT work?
@martinbel 3 сағат бұрын
@@ThomasImthat's a riskier client. But sometimes you have no option
@AlanZhu-kv8lr 3 ай бұрын
i haven’t landed a job yet and just recently out of nowhere a person sent me a proposal for a quote on quote small job. He didn’t say what his timeline was (as in how much time he expects this job to take) so I messaged him back asking about this. He hasn’t responded in 4 days. Thoughts on this? Should I just take the job anyway? Or just move on because of a noncommunicative client that could end up in a similar position as ur past bad exp? love ur vibe btw
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
I don't accept jobs until there are clear expectations on the work scope and quotes In your case I think the best you can do is just send a final message letting your client know your price for the project and that you can start as soon as they confirm After that, move on. Focus more on the clients that are responsive
@afiasheikh416 3 ай бұрын
Unresponsive client is a huge red sign. He may give u a job and deadline and then go on silent mode when u have any question or need a feedback. Watch carefully
@ArsalanM541 3 ай бұрын
Hello, brother also share your experience writing proposals and client face-to-face meetings.
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
Already have videos on those Proposals: Writing a good cover letter: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/op5lh86S09ndnoE.html My exact cover letter that got me my first client: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mLZ9fphlr73JZYk.html Meetings/sales calls: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7WladVnyNqbpaM.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mM5opcqSmsvUhGg.html
@Noob-zi2ce 28 күн бұрын
Reviews on Upwork can be edited by clients. You have an opportunity of reaching out to a client and asking them what you did wrong to get the bad review, you can resolve the issue and the review will he edited.
@emmanuelthompson32 Ай бұрын
on gave me a 2 star on a programmer trailing stop that was working perfectly, he was literelly performing and using the wrong set of data for his calculation which was laughable but his EGO would not allow him accept he was making the wrong calculation
@dumafoic5745 Ай бұрын
for upwork its matter if you live in Russia
@Noob-zi2ce 28 күн бұрын
I once had such a bad client but I didn't let here bring my profile down with a bad review. If you have a bad client, you're going to lose in some way. Sometimes the best thing to do is cancel the contract and lose the time and money, but your reviews section won't be stained.
@jerzyczajaszwajcer 8 күн бұрын
they want a yes man
@AnsafP 2 ай бұрын
every freelancer have atleast faced a 1 star review at least once.
@avalox7624 2 ай бұрын
Not Every Person Can work in Upwork If Your Russian Upwork will not let you even Create an account. I have a friend He is a Russian Citizen and he's account was permanently banned do to the Sanctions, and Noth Korea doesn't even have Internet.
@boris_just_ 8 күн бұрын
Upwork is just waste od time. I spent whole year there and nothing. Zero.
@TermiteValley Ай бұрын
wow, sucks about that 1 star review. Sorry about that man,,
@iskapalya 3 ай бұрын
Bottomline; ego maniac client
@sinatraforeign 3 ай бұрын
definitely
@jgibson8092 3 ай бұрын
exactly. he got an apology then still left a 1 star review . I wouldve been pissed .
@TutorialTvOnline Ай бұрын
Snakes man. You are better than this bro this is a lesson to sift them out before you sign them on but I don't know any better just my idea i guess
@daisykirwa9395 3 ай бұрын
When did you start?
@ThomasIm 3 ай бұрын
April 12, 2023
@PEBBLETHEREBEL1985 2 ай бұрын
I felt angry listening to your client story,
@Anthony-dj4nd 5 күн бұрын
NO
@RooterDelWifiXs Ай бұрын
Is your audio delayed?
@ThomasIm Ай бұрын
Unfortunately yeah
@CrazyCokee Ай бұрын
what an complete A - hole client. definitely wasn't your fault, sometimes clients just have no awareness and lack personal responsibility and then project their own frustrations out on someone else with no rhyme or reason. you just happened to be the unlucky person to cross paths, but nothing to do with u
@Yousaf_Yunes 27 күн бұрын
Bro didn’t you copy templates
@frankjamesbonarrigo7162 2 ай бұрын
It's too nebulous what you actually DO . I watched a video about you linking up grocery delivery, and this video you are making "content". What ever that is. Confusing as hell tbh
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