Is using this golf club cheating?

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Rick Shiels Golf

Rick Shiels Golf

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@chrishartman5383
@chrishartman5383 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this video was missing the test for Rick's typical putting needs: 20' off the green when he is scared of using his wedge.
@RickShielsPGA
@RickShielsPGA 3 жыл бұрын
20 yards 😆
@bennettpisek5566
@bennettpisek5566 3 жыл бұрын
@@RickShielsPGA haha, that’s a bit of a difference.😄
@ScottGrass
@ScottGrass 3 жыл бұрын
@@RickShielsPGA you are a good sport my friend.
@dabugplayz6694
@dabugplayz6694 3 жыл бұрын
@@RickShielsPGA rick the baby
@Beaconhilldrift
@Beaconhilldrift 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@V8VRUte
@V8VRUte 3 жыл бұрын
if you can score the same with a club that you've only spent a few minutes with, then chances are, that with a little more time, you'll start seeing an advantage with it. Certainly worth a try anyway.
@Victor797264
@Victor797264 3 жыл бұрын
I think he should've had someone who is more novice test it also
@bndiscussion467
@bndiscussion467 3 жыл бұрын
@Til Death Do We par that's quite a valid statement. Always wondered how Dechambeau needed so much more of a pull back and follow through without it going off to the next tee. -Grateful weekend warrior
@wesboothe6507
@wesboothe6507 3 жыл бұрын
And that’s why it shouldn’t be legal
@kevinquinn8118
@kevinquinn8118 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesboothe6507 it shouldn’t be legal because you can putt better with it? Well, all the new drivers that let you hit further should be illegal too.
@Jetmech1781
@Jetmech1781 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesboothe6507 I don't understand the logic. Honestly, I think getting rid of the pendulum putters was the wrong call. Legal tech is there for anyone to use. If you think X gives advantage over Y, so it should be banned, then make tournament play hickory club only. Banning this would be the equivalent of banning baseball caps, because they protect a bald head from sunburn better than a visor. It's available to all, so it's your choice not to use it.
@lucashafford
@lucashafford 3 жыл бұрын
As we all know. This wouldn't be a Rick shiels review if we didnt cut the putter in half
@snaphookright4767
@snaphookright4767 3 жыл бұрын
There was a point in the video where it felt appropriate for Rick to pull out the shears and have at it! Hahahaha
@johnchampion7819
@johnchampion7819 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that should be factored into the test is that on the 8ft putts you used the standard putter first. When you used the Armlock, you had a good idea of the exact line into the hole; slightly left of centre. You put things right on the 40ft test by using the putters alternatively and the results were pretty evenly balanced. Likewise the 9 hole challenge resulted in an even split. I'll stick with my scotty cameron. Very interesting video, keep up the good work.
@kevan4852
@kevan4852 3 жыл бұрын
3:56 "I'm in quite a bit of pain ..... but it feels good" ..... Rick, do you need an intervention with that putter?
@Zyrexed
@Zyrexed 3 жыл бұрын
I need that putter for the sole reason of extending the gimmie range within the club length.
@chairmanmeow8388
@chairmanmeow8388 2 жыл бұрын
I putt with a sea fishing pole. The gimme range is so big ive never had to putt with it
@ToxicSpork
@ToxicSpork 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what looks more weird, the putting style or Rick without a hat
@tigerman1978
@tigerman1978 3 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that Im thinking if hes starting to look like Peter Finch? :o
@gtb8703
@gtb8703 3 жыл бұрын
Can we all put in to get Rick a new hat?
@crackspider101
@crackspider101 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't work out what was different, I thought he'd had a haircut! TBF I think he has as well. Looks better without a hat
@robertfudge985
@robertfudge985 3 жыл бұрын
I would be VERY interested to see you play with this on a couple full rounds of golf. As several people have noted, putting seems to be the most inconsistent part of your game. If you're already doing that well with it, I can see it being quite transformative.
@zaahirelias2355
@zaahirelias2355 3 жыл бұрын
Put the armlock in the bag sire, your putting let's you down the most normally With this maybe you can progress to a break 72 series
@angryginger791
@angryginger791 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. New things always take an adjustment period, but that's nothing to be afraid of. Of course, the gamble is if you put it in the bag and then they end up banning it. I'll hold off buying one until that argument shakes itself out.
@johnnylocke7599
@johnnylocke7599 3 жыл бұрын
If they ban it it will take years. IMO no reason to ban because it’s still not anchored.
@VanishingImage
@VanishingImage 3 жыл бұрын
Over all Rick's videos it's definitely his putting letting him down. I think this new putter might be the missing link.
@Abdullah_Chill
@Abdullah_Chill 3 жыл бұрын
He picked up a new putter and drained them compated to his normal 'comfortable' one. That in itself is grounds for a change or at least a further try out.
@Iseeyou67
@Iseeyou67 3 жыл бұрын
@@angryginger791 i agree! That gamble is the true thing holding me back, the results are there. That's also a reason i suspect it will be banned, the advantages are clear.
@ShamanK1977
@ShamanK1977 3 жыл бұрын
I think the pro's should be handed a set of NorthWestern 7 piece sets from Canadian Tire at the beginning of the week at the tournies and have at it :)...
@mickym.6711
@mickym.6711 3 жыл бұрын
Lol nice. Still have my northwestern jc snead 105 yd or less wedge. Haven't used it in years tho!
@-ram-m2664
@-ram-m2664 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a NWestern lob-wedge from KMart in the late 80s when I started looping and the 60* was the latest thing. I used that until I wore out the bounce...
@canuckeh5197
@canuckeh5197 3 жыл бұрын
How funny I am 57 years old northeastern were my 1st set. I remember the 7 iron face breaking in half.
@samiam619
@samiam619 3 жыл бұрын
@@canuckeh5197 My first set from Play it again Sports was a Wilson Staff with the “Grip Minder”! Kept it 2 weeks and traded it in for a set made after Metal Woods had come out…
@mikehoffman3142
@mikehoffman3142 3 жыл бұрын
A friend got a set of Northwestern clubs, I tried the driver and could barely get the ball air borne. Terrible feel.
@HighFructoseCornSyrupDaddy
@HighFructoseCornSyrupDaddy 3 жыл бұрын
Rick has inspired me to get back into golf last year, thanks for another great informative video. The accent makes me feel fancy and cultured. Cheers.
@jammybizzle666
@jammybizzle666 2 жыл бұрын
Manc accent, fancy and cultured?
@guanrongcai9381
@guanrongcai9381 3 жыл бұрын
I’d go with the arm lock just by looking at the rolls of your short putt test. However, a bit of randomization would’ve been nice for the testing methods. You went with traditional first most of the time which meant you knew the breaks and speeds before using the arm lock, just a thought.
@tcat7576
@tcat7576 2 жыл бұрын
This
@datdude3030
@datdude3030 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@bigal6274
@bigal6274 3 жыл бұрын
If the rule is "pivot around a point" then that putter is legit.. and now I want one.
@normancuxgolfnstuff7023
@normancuxgolfnstuff7023 3 жыл бұрын
I am also thinking about getting one for some time… but I just bought a new putter 3 month ago 🤨
@sillysausage4549
@sillysausage4549 3 жыл бұрын
You'll still be a hacker Big Al, whatever clubs you use
@hurfdurfy8167
@hurfdurfy8167 3 жыл бұрын
@@sillysausage4549 And you'll still be just a silly sausage. Why even comment? Keep it to yourself mate.
@davelines1323
@davelines1323 3 жыл бұрын
So what about the "anchor point" if it's legal to use an "anchor plane" that you could land a 747 on.
@tannermcclain2265
@tannermcclain2265 3 жыл бұрын
that what literally the whole premise of the video bro what do you mean “if”
@gagewoodcock2479
@gagewoodcock2479 3 жыл бұрын
So what your saying is that I still have to line up my putt correctly and put the right pace on it? Damn hand me another beer.
@ropey1663
@ropey1663 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@tistelnilsson
@tistelnilsson 3 жыл бұрын
5 beers make every put strait to you!
@victormaniaci2104
@victormaniaci2104 3 жыл бұрын
@@tistelnilsson 10 beers and the put looks like 3 balls going to the hole, and we all know with 3 you have a better chance of sinking one of them.
@GSHOCKOUTDOORS
@GSHOCKOUTDOORS 3 жыл бұрын
Switched to a Bettinardi armlock this year and won’t be going back. Like you Rick I discovered I was more wrist putting than I had realised. The 6’ and in range is almost automatic now which give huge confidence to fire at the middle of greens if the pin is tricky. Great video.
@theatremusician
@theatremusician 3 жыл бұрын
I've been putting in this style for more than 20 years now. I use a regular putter (no special length or grip), but I'm leaned a bit more over the ball as it helps me see the line better. I modeled my style after one of Bernhard Langer's 50 styles of putting over the years.
@cathalroche607
@cathalroche607 3 жыл бұрын
First time seeing you without the hat in ages
@sandersson2813
@sandersson2813 3 жыл бұрын
Don't understand why anyone wears them. Some countries might use the sun as an excuse, but in Britain? Adults shouldn't wear caps.
@Nuttuttybuggles
@Nuttuttybuggles 3 жыл бұрын
@@sandersson2813 it’s cause hats are stylish and some people just like wearing them
@ar_x7
@ar_x7 3 жыл бұрын
@@sandersson2813 some say it's to keep their hair from falling out 🧑‍🦲
@yooouuuuu
@yooouuuuu 3 жыл бұрын
watch his podcast for hatless glory
@jackbelli5229
@jackbelli5229 3 жыл бұрын
@@sandersson2813 or maybe people can wear whatever they want 🤣
@nickname1392
@nickname1392 3 жыл бұрын
Should have putted from two different spots at each length while alternating which putter you use first.
@tangyboi6420
@tangyboi6420 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, after 10 putts with his normal putter i feel like he really had the line down and just needed to put straight.
@Sinners4SaintsTV
@Sinners4SaintsTV 3 жыл бұрын
This right here… kind of an unfair bias
@TheSimCaptain
@TheSimCaptain 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, he should have started with the armlock putter on one hole, and with his normal putter on another hole.
@seanflanagan3823
@seanflanagan3823 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the comment I was going to make!
@georgewilson-bland1988
@georgewilson-bland1988 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah same as what other dude did
@sfst2
@sfst2 3 жыл бұрын
I’m curious to use one but I’m too afraid of falling in love with it and then the usga ban the use of armlock
@jirasakmalaengpoothong8663
@jirasakmalaengpoothong8663 3 жыл бұрын
True! Therefore better stick with the traditional one.. no ban for sure!
@jongoh8646
@jongoh8646 3 жыл бұрын
Damn so many tour players here can I get an autograph pleaseeee
@James-xg5rh
@James-xg5rh 3 жыл бұрын
Do you okay on tour or something lol. Why would you care what they ban?
@sfst2
@sfst2 3 жыл бұрын
@@James-xg5rh when you gamble people don’t like losing to illegal equipment
@Jake_Powd
@Jake_Powd 3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to golf and I really enjoy watching your videos. You make the videos entertaining while still being informative. Thank you for separating yourself from other golfing instructors on here. There are A LOT of snoozers out there!
@_barncat
@_barncat 3 жыл бұрын
Rick, you keep this club in the bag and you'll be on a steady diet of birdie sauce 🏑 🐦
@mr.zeforume
@mr.zeforume 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly. After using a club like this, I live them. For me, all it does is remind me to keep my arm straight and elbow facing my target. Since you hands stay connected, there isn't any point where your hands are experiencing movement in different directions, or between a point. Technically, this breaks no rules.
@christophersimons6560
@christophersimons6560 3 жыл бұрын
Rick-the confidence you had with the arm lock was noticeable. I would say keep it around for a while and see how it works. Thanks for another great vid!
@brunsnick
@brunsnick 3 жыл бұрын
Been armlocking for 1 year and it took time to dial it in. These are the 3 main things: 1- Putter length to match your height and preferred posture. I tried both 40” and 42” and longer was better for me. I’m 5-10 and like to be more upright at address. 2- Ball position. I found much more consistency and results with the ball on the back foot. Playing off the front sometimes exceeded my natural free swing motion and led to muscling or yips. 3- Putter grip. A lot have long and thin pistol grips, had issues in humidity and heat with sweat slipping off and in cold/rain when I wore sleeves. Went to the Bryson special JumboMax 17 and that solved every issue. Also takes more strain off the contorted left wrist. Cheers. Good video as always!
@EE-ie9gm
@EE-ie9gm 2 жыл бұрын
Where can u purchase these arm lock putters?
@rodneyhickman825
@rodneyhickman825 3 жыл бұрын
5 years ago and I was locking regular length putter into my forearm. Nobody complained because I was still a terrible putter . Lol
@airborneinfantry24
@airborneinfantry24 3 жыл бұрын
Watch out, the ATF might consider it a brace and make it illegal.
@kimmorrison9169
@kimmorrison9169 3 жыл бұрын
our Brit friends won’t get that!
@bradkyrish8058
@bradkyrish8058 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@Iseeyou67
@Iseeyou67 3 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOO best comment.
@Big_T51
@Big_T51 3 жыл бұрын
That is really funny
@usmchessler
@usmchessler 3 жыл бұрын
Well said! lol. Underrated comment
@dw4421
@dw4421 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the armlock biggest benefit is the short putt to make sure you strike it straight as possible where slight angles on such low ball speeds can alter the bounce/path of the ball. Long putts matter more on the read and appropriate force exerted, making sure you get it close enough to two-putt. Think it’s better to test how squared and how much deviation on swing path on armlock vs traditional putters create on average.
@Pulse2AM
@Pulse2AM 3 жыл бұрын
You still have to read the break and speed and then execute, golf rules are so trivial sometimes.
@rothgartheviking858
@rothgartheviking858 3 жыл бұрын
people have been using a forearm grip that did the same thing for years.
@benatkins7382
@benatkins7382 3 жыл бұрын
what are the grips called? really want aa putter like this, but don't wanna spend £400+!
@rothgartheviking858
@rothgartheviking858 3 жыл бұрын
@@benatkins7382 just watch old footage of Bernhart Langer. before he switched to a belly putter.
@patricktraynor7628
@patricktraynor7628 3 жыл бұрын
Golf rules can be so anal. If you believe there’s an unfair advantage, change to the arm lock putter
@coletucker110
@coletucker110 3 жыл бұрын
Literally what I keep saying. If you think it’s such a “hack” then use it yourself.
@JMEAUS22
@JMEAUS22 3 жыл бұрын
Which tour pro Schaffaule did. He got worse after switching.
@dejue
@dejue 3 жыл бұрын
I will never understand some of the rules. They have equipment to hit the ball a mile, but you worried about the tip of the end of the stick touching the body? It's silly really. If something was an advantage, EVERYbody would be doing it. You dont' see wooden drivers anymore...
@bakes402
@bakes402 3 жыл бұрын
Big questions are : Can I get my current putter regripped with this arm lock grip? If so, will the face of my putter at impact be too aggressively delofted? Is the arm lock putter slightly lofted to compensate for the forward angled slope of the shaft at impact?
@nickmanville900
@nickmanville900 5 ай бұрын
I put an Armlock putter in the bag and literally instantly dropped 4 shots off my handicap. I no longer fear putts under 5 feet, I was always due for 1 or 2... or 3 or 4 misses from that range every round. Now I miss from within 5 feet about once ever 3 rounds.
@michaelhoffman8887
@michaelhoffman8887 3 жыл бұрын
Aside from the videos being fun to watch, gotta give credit to Rick for always being so informational with the game and the rules. Class 👏🏻
@mikehoffman7131
@mikehoffman7131 3 жыл бұрын
I’d really love to see someone do a review of the Super Stroke wrist lock grip on putter vs Armlock putter
@ryanmcmahon6210
@ryanmcmahon6210 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Rick. Recently broke out my old belly putter and have been playing around with using it as an armlock and I agree with the discomfort in the wrist.
@Beenjammin37
@Beenjammin37 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the smirk of joy after rolling 6 in row in from 8 feet with the arm lock
@joelmckenna8799
@joelmckenna8799 3 жыл бұрын
Any news on playing against GM Golf?
@Wyatt_Ali
@Wyatt_Ali 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah we need that
@philliphedrick21
@philliphedrick21 3 жыл бұрын
No we don’t
@flawlessfeep9919
@flawlessfeep9919 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting putter, definitely looks worth trying it out. I think it takes a bit more time to get used to it because of the arm lock, but I think you could play a lot better with this putter.
@CoomzTube
@CoomzTube 3 жыл бұрын
Looks a bit windy over there at the Worsley Rick! 😉 Thanks for doing the comparison video. Very interesting. It’s certainly taking the wrists out of things, but the two points everyone needs to remember is you still have to pick the correct line and pace, whatever the putter you have in your hands (or arms!)
@magpiemarkbradley
@magpiemarkbradley 2 жыл бұрын
You've got the line by time you hit that, I'm not disputing it probably helps, but i think any putter could do the same. Your first putter you where looking for the line, the last 10 pretty much followed the same line, maybe that's it. I'm not sure .
@alexedens1
@alexedens1 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using one for about a month now. Definitely more consistent stroke which results in a more consistent role. As you mentioned it takes the wrist flip out. The fact that you putted as good or better on your first go should tell you something. Put it in the bag.
@robd1811
@robd1811 Жыл бұрын
After using it for a while how has it gone for you?
@alexedens1
@alexedens1 Жыл бұрын
Great. Extremely consistent. Will never go back unless the evil rules committee intervenes.
@georgelawson5055
@georgelawson5055 3 жыл бұрын
We all want the Gm golf Rick shiels match. When is it coming?!?!
@Tru3xEffects
@Tru3xEffects 3 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!!! Give the people what they want!
@mikewilliams1479
@mikewilliams1479 3 жыл бұрын
Micah/Grant/Garrett vs Rick/Peter/Matt va James/Mark/Gary
@gregorylu
@gregorylu 3 жыл бұрын
I think some pros have been against armlock, and their way of describing it was, it doesn't make a good putter into a great putter, but it makes bad putters into good putters. Basically making it easier to get better at putting. But who knows.
@robertkatz3788
@robertkatz3788 3 жыл бұрын
I bought an Evnroll ER11 Midlock a month ago and after 2 weeks of practice the putter is fantastic. One tip that worked for me was to practice with a metronome to tune in tempo, especially on longer putts.
@pandemicplanb9245
@pandemicplanb9245 3 жыл бұрын
Never understood why ban something that littery everyone can use, If its so good why arent every single PRO using it?
@seth1455
@seth1455 3 жыл бұрын
You still have to read the green and hit it the right speed. The advantage of this putter is if you have a suspect action, it might help keep the club face stable. The pros who already have a consistent putting stroke, have nothing to gain by using it
@whogg0521
@whogg0521 3 жыл бұрын
I personally think all the putters should be allowed. The game is hard enough, even for the pros. I don't belive folks using these putters won at the winning percentage Tiger did all of a sudden.
@Sinners4SaintsTV
@Sinners4SaintsTV 3 жыл бұрын
You know something… you’re right! Ban Tiger Woods 😂
@malthuswasright
@malthuswasright 3 жыл бұрын
I think the balance is right. Ban belly putters and anchoring to the chest, but this looks OK.
@sueharding111
@sueharding111 3 жыл бұрын
Back when i played regular golf ( many years ago now ) i guess you could say i used this method without the need for a longer club ... holding the grip lower and " locking " it into my wrist my putting was pretty decent tbh , a small adjustment to how the face approached the ball ie tilted more forward was all i needed to consistently putt well
@Gigity1107
@Gigity1107 3 жыл бұрын
I think the 4/10 for the non arm lock from 8' is a pretty poor return actually. Once you get the speed and distance, you'd expect to make more than you miss from there.
@austinmaruna1760
@austinmaruna1760 3 жыл бұрын
"ahrm lok puh-TA" - Rick
@ParleLeVu
@ParleLeVu 3 жыл бұрын
"Boardalain chiting". "Contruhversiuhl gulf cloob".
@samiam619
@samiam619 3 жыл бұрын
What I can’t get over is his pronunciation of the “G’s” at the end of words. Like puttin-ga
@ParleLeVu
@ParleLeVu 3 жыл бұрын
@@samiam619 His adding of r's to random words at the end. "I sawr it". Or the fact that H is not a part of his alphabet. This: "Fis". Have: " 'ave ".
@JonathanHorlock
@JonathanHorlock 3 жыл бұрын
@@ParleLeVu you've obviously never been to the North of England then.
@ParleLeVu
@ParleLeVu 3 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanHorlock And thank god for that. I'd go crazy.
@wullieman
@wullieman 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t trying with the first putts with his own putter. Kidding no one lolo
@jessebremner5209
@jessebremner5209 2 жыл бұрын
I think what you said about realizing that you are a bit of a wrist flicky putter is a big reason why you should stick with a putter like this..develope a repeatable putting stroke and build your putting confidence..I now will go out and get one and do the same
@davidrichardson3764
@davidrichardson3764 3 жыл бұрын
I bought this putter about a month ago and I love it. Much more confident on short putts, I feel like I can't miss.
@braddersm8
@braddersm8 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like a super "confidence building" putter adaptation...I definitely feel like it's something that, if anything, will build consistency. Great video buddy! 👌🏻💪🏻
@DavidPetryk
@DavidPetryk 3 жыл бұрын
the big difference is under pressure it should eliminate a few variables like any error in releasing the putter or wrist break down.
@gregcherry2555
@gregcherry2555 2 жыл бұрын
In all fairness, Rick, you were in the exact same position to the hole for testing both putters for the 8 foot distance. Therefore, you had 10 practice puts to establish the line and break before trying the longer anchoring putter. Perhaps, in future such comparisons, it would be a good idea to change your approach line to the cup between clubs. Thanks for the video!
@745theone
@745theone 3 жыл бұрын
Rick, I've used arm lock for years and use the Arm Lock Golf grips that turn belly putters into armlock putters. What I found in using those grips is that you have to change your left hand position on it. You can't really keep it in the "life line" in the palm of your hand. I found that if you roll your left hand clockwise just a bit, it was a lot more comfortable. That maybe the issue with your pain. I love arm locking though and whenever I feel like I can't start the ball on line, I always go back to an arm lock to get the feel back. Hope to see it in your bag though!!!
@Real28
@Real28 3 жыл бұрын
"felt reliable, stable" That's all you need. That creates CONFIDENCE. Confidence begets better strokes. Better strokes beget better scores.
@mahalpert
@mahalpert 3 жыл бұрын
Rick makes the best content
@timothyhickman9316
@timothyhickman9316 2 жыл бұрын
Late to this video but tried one at a golf shop and made the first three 15 footers. Thought wow and when I went to buy it a week later all arm lock putters were sold out!
@trickoftheeye7101
@trickoftheeye7101 3 жыл бұрын
The science behind this putter is very good. I need to try it. I wonder if the grip was slightly bent leaning in towards your forearm would that sort the awkward painful wrist.
@HarryProffitt
@HarryProffitt 2 жыл бұрын
Why ban a club that everyone has the opportunity to use. If it’s such an advantage, then use it 🤷🏻‍♂️. I think it should stay, and I would be really interested to give it a go myself.
@poocrayon4588
@poocrayon4588 2 жыл бұрын
Why not make the hole 4 times the size of everyone can play it? Because golf is a game and the point isn’t to make it as easy as possible, it’s to enjoy the challenge.
@HarryProffitt
@HarryProffitt 2 жыл бұрын
@@poocrayon4588 if the idea wasn’t the make the game as easy as possible then we would still be playing with wooden clubs? I guess you don’t agree with twist face on new drivers then? What about drivers where you can adjust the weight in the head? All designs that make the game easier and more enjoyable for both the average and elite golfer. Surely the more enjoyable the game is, and the better peoples golf can be, the more people we can get involved in the sport? 🤷🏻‍♂️
@poocrayon4588
@poocrayon4588 2 жыл бұрын
​@@HarryProffitt No I don't agree that those things make the game more enjoyable - driver heads should still be wooden. There is a point in time in which the tech makes the game too easy and fundementally changes it - golf is way past that but because there's money in club manufacture it keeps getting pushed. Other games like baseball had the sense not to swap to high tech aluminium bats just because they hit further - they leave that shit for little kids and womens leagues. What does hitting further with drivers really get us? Every course either becomes a pitch and putt or else they lengthen courses - and then I'm walking further to play the same shots that just travel a bit further while spending more money on clubs. And I'm supposed to be impressed with that and find it enjoyable? Before you think I'm some geezer I'm 29 and have only played a few years and when I play socially I always use persimmon woods and old irons and a simple putter - it is more enjoyable to me and the feel is way better. It's really not that hard - if it was golf wouldn't have been popular all this time. With new drivers you don't even have to middle it. I also don't agree that making everything high tech and easy af helps grow the game. How the f does having more expensive clubs grow the game or having more matinence fees for members because of bigger courses make people wanna become members? It doesn't. People that don't know anything about golf aren't playing because of 460cc drivers with adjustable weight and swivel heads, only some golf nerd would think that. That kind of tech has it's place but it's place is allowing senior citezens to keep playing as their physicality designs or for women to play with especially if it's mixed company. No normal man or teenage boy needs that shit to enjoy golf.
@brannerjr1897
@brannerjr1897 3 жыл бұрын
The people that complain about armlock are just mad they cant put
@brannerjr1897
@brannerjr1897 3 жыл бұрын
Putt*
@sfst2
@sfst2 3 жыл бұрын
But the people that use armlock putters are the ones that couldn’t putt to start with.
@hjjones123321
@hjjones123321 3 жыл бұрын
@@sfst2 ah yes, like Matt Kuchar, the shittiest putter around...
@brannerjr1897
@brannerjr1897 3 жыл бұрын
@@sfst2yes they adapt and try new things to become a better putter. What i am trying to say is people that complain are the ones mad that people putt better than them with an armlock
@pipedown7969
@pipedown7969 3 жыл бұрын
@@brannerjr1897 so you are saying all the guys on tour saying it shouldn’t be allowed are just bad putters right? You must be like +10 handicapper with only 17 putts per round
@jerryneff6018
@jerryneff6018 3 жыл бұрын
No pivot means the putter is legal. Armlock looks to raise your putting confidence, thus,, performance. Great review. Thank you Rick
@tomw6719
@tomw6719 3 жыл бұрын
Rick, as usual great video. I might like to see you use different color balls when you alternate shots with two putters like you did here. The visual would be good for determining how each putter preforms.
@Smiththebat
@Smiththebat 3 жыл бұрын
If this isn’t proof that you need to switch over to arm lock, Rick, then I don’t know what is. You keep saying you’re not used to it but you’re putting as good if not better right of the gate with the arm lock…
@MrLewyboy
@MrLewyboy 3 жыл бұрын
Same with any cavity backs he tests
@Smiththebat
@Smiththebat 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrLewyboy but nawww they’re “too ugly”
@ANtA585
@ANtA585 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know why there is a debate on this especially for the pro level. I haven't seen someone who was absolutely a terrible putter now rolling everything in
@pipedown7969
@pipedown7969 3 жыл бұрын
Bryson.... his putting pre arm lock was terrible. Post he became one of the best putters. I mean he was so bad before he was even trying things like that side saddle straight shaft technique lol if you Havnt seen it look it up
@ANtA585
@ANtA585 3 жыл бұрын
@@pipedown7969 I don't see any stats on pgatour.com where he is ranked in the top 10
@ZahraIsMyDog
@ZahraIsMyDog 3 жыл бұрын
@@ANtA585 he’s #10 in strokes gained putting all 2020 according to pgatour.com.
@birdiesnbogeys7380
@birdiesnbogeys7380 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZahraIsMyDog yeah but the other 9 dont armlock
@ZahraIsMyDog
@ZahraIsMyDog 3 жыл бұрын
@@birdiesnbogeys7380 yeah but dude just said Bryson isn’t top ten on the site when he literally is. That’s all.
@zadou99
@zadou99 3 жыл бұрын
Been on KZfaq for 12 years ! This guy can make content 10/10
@ickle008
@ickle008 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the ER11v Evnroll putter for 3-4 months and its a game changer. Never holed so many 20ft+ putts. I now enjoy my golf again
@gregorywalker4997
@gregorywalker4997 3 жыл бұрын
hope they don't let everybody get used to it and then ban it like the anchor style--rediculous by the ruling bodies.
@OoohhhhhYeeeaaahhhhh
@OoohhhhhYeeeaaahhhhh 3 жыл бұрын
Anything that gives you an edge should be allowed
@LAMPS0RULE
@LAMPS0RULE 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using an armlock putter I love it the idea just makes so much sense
@Iseeyou67
@Iseeyou67 3 жыл бұрын
I know the results are underwhelming with the 9 hole challenge, but the results of the 8ft and 40ft were impressive. It was rock solid at 8ft, and you had sounds speed judgement at 40ft. I cant speak for all of you, but my game would be tremendously transformed if I holed a larger percentage of putts within 8ft while preserving my longer lag put touch. May just have to pick up an armlock and give it a go.
@rtrichar
@rtrichar 3 жыл бұрын
The armlock was second in that test. He knew the exact break and speed vs traditional putter. Results are shaky at best
@daverobertocarlos
@daverobertocarlos 3 жыл бұрын
If it was that much of a game changer, everyone would use armlock
@ExTrumpet
@ExTrumpet 3 жыл бұрын
More and more are switching it seems...but it won't help with reading greens!!
@Awang333
@Awang333 3 жыл бұрын
In 5-10 years most pros will use armlock. They just haven’t made the switch
@SlainteFromFlorida
@SlainteFromFlorida 3 жыл бұрын
If it was such an advantage, everyone would be using it.
@rmmst49
@rmmst49 3 жыл бұрын
it is an advantage, and everyone should be using either the evenroll or the bettinardi, but many are set in their ways for whatever reason, and would rather stay with whatever they are used to.
@loduca16
@loduca16 3 жыл бұрын
That’s an idiotic statement. Not “everyone” was using an anchored putter before it was banned.
@gabrielcocco5188
@gabrielcocco5188 3 жыл бұрын
Give it time, you'll see golfers giving this a try.
@MPE828
@MPE828 Жыл бұрын
I've tried the Enroll midlock and Odyssey equivalent putter. I liked the midlock much more. First time testing it, it felt very natural to me. I just bought the Evnroll midlock and can't wait to take it out on the course.
@zanefoster9352
@zanefoster9352 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative and may have to look at this style putter in the future. The broom sweeper putters and belly putters weren’t banned, only the stroke where you anchor the putter to your body was banned. Bernard Langer is still using one on tour as we speak. I use this style putter and I have like 5 of them and had to change my stroke in order to use them like Bernard Langer. I switched to them because of a back injury and after my back healed I didn’t switch back to a normal putter. I am using a Ping Answer 4 at this moment, but switching back to my stand up putters with a non anchoring stroke. My problem with these putters is that the broom sweeper and belly putters both don’t allow you to anchor them to the body, but technically in my opinion and those I play golf with here in the States you are anchoring the grip against your forearm and wrist during the stroke to prevent the wrist from breaking down and bending. In theory with this putter you are doing what they claim you do with the broom and belly putters and anchoring them to a body part. If these are are allowed on tour so should belly and broom putters. Just my thoughts and opinions, but I’m also one of the players that would like to have two extra clubs in the bag giving you 16, not criticizing you or anyone else. I love your videos and content. Always informative. Thanks
@barking_mad6649
@barking_mad6649 3 жыл бұрын
Xander Schauffele uses it but thinks they should be banned. “I am for banning the armlock putters, but if everyone else is going to use it, and I feel like they have a bigger advantage, I may as well do the same.
@diggermeddler1169
@diggermeddler1169 3 жыл бұрын
Bullshit banning these. It's already limited enough that you can't lock it over the elbow
@Kaddywompous
@Kaddywompous 3 жыл бұрын
I got an armlock this year and I’m NEVER going back. If they end up banning it I’ll have to become an outlaw.
@swankyb9454
@swankyb9454 2 жыл бұрын
I started putting crosshanded in the 1980’s in an attempt to get the same type of stability in the stroke that this putter seems to give . I am definitely gonna try this out.
@markprice2225
@markprice2225 2 жыл бұрын
What Up Rick?? I added a couple more Putters to the collection this weekend! Got a new Bettinardi, and a beautiful new putter from some company called HIPPO. Club is as nice as any Scotty Cameron Putter
@ryanclingenpeel8232
@ryanclingenpeel8232 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t you just be more used to the line that you just hit ten puts at? I don’t think the 8/10 is that crazy
@jumperstartful
@jumperstartful 3 жыл бұрын
For me, it all comes down to that 6 inch putter between my ears. I've heard it said that golf is 90% mental and the other 10% is mental.
@pdub2762
@pdub2762 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video Mr Rick. Sometimes I don't always like your videos but I appreciate that you have a lot of different types and it keeps me coming back 🤜🤛
@Sueezedtight
@Sueezedtight 3 жыл бұрын
I have developed a unique style of putting grip. Since limiting face angle deviation is the nec plus ultra of putting (Dave Pelz). Over-rotate the top hand so that it wants to close the putter face upon relaxation. Over-rotate the bottom hand so that it wants to open the putter face upon relaxation. Thus, both backs of the hands are on top of the grip, all knuckle joints are visible and the bottom hand wrist fits snugly into the "V" of the top hand thumb-forefinger. Try as you might, you can hardly deviate the putter face from on-line. When hands are relaxed for putting, the counter-acting forces of the hands balance out and the club stays static. Try it, it works.
@imabootscoot7633
@imabootscoot7633 3 жыл бұрын
Hello people who are on time
@macstauffacher3602
@macstauffacher3602 3 жыл бұрын
Straight up, Rick looks like he’s rocking a toupee
@pkincy
@pkincy 10 ай бұрын
I've got one along with my 10-12 Scotty's. I am pleased to say that it can 4 putt as easily as a Scotty Cameron can.
@cliverose9958
@cliverose9958 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been putting that way since the 1980s but using a standard Ping putter. I tried it after watching Bernhardt Langer use it in the 1985 masters. Not only does it stop you being too wristy it also places your eyes directly over the ball, which helps with alignment.
@ST-wq1vq
@ST-wq1vq 3 жыл бұрын
Bryson isn't even in the top 20 putters on the pga tour lol. And Xander's putting was much better before he switched lol
@brahamthomas1198
@brahamthomas1198 3 жыл бұрын
Bryson is 30th this year, and finished 10th overall last season. Shut up lol.
@Yunkyylol
@Yunkyylol 3 жыл бұрын
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@ELWrana
@ELWrana 3 жыл бұрын
I converted my Odyssey 2-ball putter by adding a 6” extension and the 17” JMX JumboMax grip, and went to the arm lock grip. Immediately saw results in my putting stroke consistency. Score hasn’t improved much, but that comes with time and practice.
@yabbayuya8788
@yabbayuya8788 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the same putter and it's brilliant! I consider myself a good putter but do get nervy on short puts sometimes..not with this putter
@otoolec29
@otoolec29 3 жыл бұрын
I've been putting like this since I was a little kid using an old odessy putter found in my uncle's barn that had been run over by a car and the shaft was bent 20 degrees forward. Having your hands that far forward makes it relatively easy to lock your left wrist even without the whole arm-lock deal. My style has always used left arm maintains direction/aim, right arm controls power. Its always worked well for me, this product is interesting because it seems like the closest analog to how I've putt my whole life. (Yes I still play with that same old bent to hell putter, 25 years later)
@Swampfox12345
@Swampfox12345 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have an armlock putter by definition, but I do have a chunky pistol GT2 Superstroke grip on my putter, and with my left hand low grip I do give it a bit of forward press with my right hand and sort of anchor my knuckles into my forearm. This has really helped me stabilize the putter and I do very good at starting the ball on line with the right pace. I still get a tiny bit of wrist action because it's not actually locked in but feels right to me and it works at the moment. Now if I could only get better at reading greens and judging the amount of break I'd be dangerous!
@edshort1138
@edshort1138 3 жыл бұрын
Video should have discussed [A] Whether the top portion of the grip should extend outward even more toward the front (left) arm than it does - I believe the answer is Yes; and [B] The need for the putter face to have a different/larger loft than the standard putter due to the de-lofted angle necessary to hug the front arm - again I believe the answer is Yes. Also, an armlock putter is illegal IF its handle length reaches the elbow bone (I think). Thanks.
@ScottGrass
@ScottGrass 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly am not sure what I like more. The new putter or Ricks haircut! Looking good buddy, thanks for the great video!
@per_growth
@per_growth 3 жыл бұрын
How many players are there on tour? And there are 3 who use them? The armlock/midlock is just like any putter - it will work for a short time, then you move on to the next putter. Putting is such an art - the right read/break/speed is essential.
@swolf2004
@swolf2004 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you are actually testing the club out beforehand. I watched a few videos recently (such as the one where you play St. Andrews backwards with hickory clubs) where you apparently hit your shots cold. I just think...well, this isn't going to start well...
@QuinnZed12
@QuinnZed12 3 жыл бұрын
I switched to a Taylormade Spider X and that changed my putting immensely since it’s a mallet but I can only imagine using an armlock my putting would be superior
@efng21
@efng21 3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking to get my putter regripped with a midlock cuz im a bit of a flicky putter too. Glad to hear it helps
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