Anti var was definitely pro var before var got introduced

Love the Pro-VAR guy. Has a good argument and a nice tone. The Anti-VAR guy is so unlikeable. He cuts his opponent off a lot, he literally calls him an idiot...Kids, don’t argue like this guy.

Anybody else read "pro war vs anti war"? On the thumbnail

The antivar guy convinced me to support var

whys the anti VAR guy so RUDE

Imagine calling someone the village idiot for not wanting teams to cheat

Anti-VAR guy is the biggest knob I've seen in a while.

I find calling someone an idiot just because they have a different opinion to you is the most idiotic thing anyone can do

My friend’s name is Var and he plays football. I’m gonna show him this without context.

The issue with the complaint of waiting 3-5 minutes for VAR to make a decision is if the decision was made in 10 seconds, the fans who the decision went against would accuse VAR of not looking into the decision thoroughly and 10 seconds isn’t enough time.

The anti VAR guy just seems ignorant the whole time

Fully on the side of pro var!

Christ, I forgot VAR was even a thing. Right now I’m not bothered about VAR I just want footy back.

The 100m sprint reasoning was actually quality

I thought it said pro war

The anti-var guy made this unwatchable, the irony haha.

Wasn't able to watch the whole video cause the anti var is unbearable...

The Anti-Var guy would take everything back had VAR been implemented in the 2010 World Cup when Frank Lampard scored that Equaliser against Germany

“VAR ruins a match day experience” I went to Southampton vs Newcastle and one of the best parts of day was VAR

Thought it said pro war and was so confused when I clicked and started watching.

“You can’t say that it’s enhanced the premier league at all” “Yes it’s gotten more decisions right” And the anti var one said cut the cameras we’re done here? Ironic

I said many times before and I'll say it again: the problem lies with the people that use it, not the system itself.

We so need more of these. They're, eye opening and intellectual debates.

The anti-Var guy is just a Juventus supporter who misses being able to pay the refs

I’m actually probably anti var but my representative here came off such a knob I was agreeing with the pro var guy most of the time lol

If Leeds were in the premier league and it was 90th minute of the last game of the season against Man City. With Leeds needing a point to stay up and its 0-0, Aguero scores and he was offside this guy would be bumming VAR. Its been one season nothings going to be perfect it needs at least a decade to get it right. Footballs been played for over 150 years and the rules still are being changed every year. Its here to stay, get on with it and stop moaning.

both arguments were really well thought out and argued really well by both guys

"Quality and standards of refs in the premier league is abysmal." Tell me a sport where people are happy with the refs.

Only a couple of minutes in and I get the strong feeling that the anti-VAR guy isn't a real football fan. He's the type to be found in a hospitality box with a glass of champagne and a prawn sandwich.

The anti var guy makes me wanna throw up with the way he’s acting 🤢🤮

You should make a pro vax vs anti vax video

Gets more decisions right than wrong. No its not perfect but did people expect perfect after 1 season? Obviously there was going to be little problems like offsides etc but it'll all get fixed and with the amount of money involved in football it is needed in the game. The ideology of the system are perfect, we just need good enough refs to make it work.

anti var has clearly never recieved a slap for something that he said before.

they said it needed to be trailed in a competition first but it was used in the FA cup previous to being introduced into the premier league

Anti-VAR guy: "A player gets sent off and fans just chant VAR, VAR. That's not what football is about!" Also Anti-VAR guy: "Oh yeah, my player gets sent off and fans chant referee's a wanker. I chant it myself!" Irony died a thousand deaths!

I am for it but it can definitely be improved and we've already seen that begin to happen this season

To be honest I think it's either a double climax, or a climax and come down when a goal is either allowed or disallowed with var. Whe a goal is scored everyones celebrating anyway, then if it goes to var, a bit more tension, then whether or not it gets allowed, theres despair or glory. For me, it all adds to the excitement of the game. Dont mind waiting a minute if it means we get a goal that was supposed to be, but may have been disallowed! But yeah it could use improvements and I'm sure itll get them

Wouldn't it be a good idea to use the rule from field tennis? Like a specific amount of VAR-check possibilities for every team.

I’ve seen every episode and every person on the show would always go for another drink with the person opposite of them! It’s awesome they’d be willing to be friends, but I want to see FIGHTS break out

I read WAR in the title and now i am dissapointed :c Was so hyped for the discussion.

i don't remember the offside rule stating that a player can be offside by a nose

In the Championship part of what makes it what it is is the randomness and I think VAR would take away from that if introduced there

Finally, a debate I know a lot about!!

The fact is: One of the main important factors of football is rivalry, and because of that, we are able to let some kind of ''injustice'' being something acceptable so that my team wins and we can make fun of the loosing one, i don't think that injustice is the fun part of the game, but i do think that it is being misused just like the time that takes to check something or even the necessity for the referee to check on a offside cause, cause in a offsde 99% of situations are not interpretative, so a machine could detect it, such as other sports, like Volleyball and Tennis.

I’m American, I have no clue what this is but it sure as hell beats anything that is happening in America rn

VAR's biggest problem to me is calling guys offsides for being a millimeter ahead. Other than that I quite enjoy it.

In my opinion being against VAR after 1 season is ridiculous it needs time to improve and get better eventually it will be quick and efficient but to want it removed at this stage is ridiculous we will truly find out everyone's opinion when there is a big goal overturned in a WC Final and I am a city fan so you know not had the best experience with VAR

@LADbible TV Please can you read out the questions. It'll make it easier for those who listen to it in the background ;)

I guess we should just wait for the Wenger's offside adjustments

lol I thought this said “pro-war.” I’m American and have no idea what any of this means.

The one point for which VAR was introduced was to get the refereeing decisions as accurate as possible and they both completely agreed... end of the debate imo

i surely dont think var should be extinguished, however loads of things most be improved, especially the offside line (for me)

10:27 he was really gonna disagree but then switched instantly to play it off😂😂

if we think how long it takes now compared to when it was introduced to make decisions it’s so much faster there’s maybe 2/3 mins max of a game waiting for var so give it a few years and it will be even more efficient

I thought the title said WAR😶😐 I was so confused through the whole video😅

Why can’t we just be happy knowing that things may not go your way and keep it real with raw emotion and flowing. No stop and starting computers etc

How about each team be given the choice to request a VAR once in the game and if it's in their favour i.e they were right they retain it otherwise they lose it. And it's like upto the captain to make that decision.

Just think about it, if the decision is taking more than 2 minutes we can agree it is not a clear and obvious error, so even in a pro var point of view it's counter productive. It should be there to point out near to obvious mistakes. Imo it shouldn't involve in many subjective decisions which will always cause confusion because we now have 2 persons expressing their opinions. And for some decisions we can go all day replaying the footage and still have no conclusion, if there is a confusion always go with the ref's original call. It's not that hard, I think.

Can't wait for this

He’s gonna be pissed now Leeds are in the prem

I'm not kidding, when I read the title I thought it was pro-war Vs anti-war, expecting a serious discussion bringing light to issues, and here I click on the vid and I see two blokes talking about football.

Nothings like the dynamic of banter between 2 football supporters supporting different teams

Offside was implemented to stop goal hanging not when someone’s arm put is behind the last defender

Football is the people's sport. It's brilliant as we all grow up aspiring to be our heroes , recreating our favourite goals with our mates down the park, staying fit and having fun. The reason it has naturally evolved to be the greatest sport is because of it's simplicity and it is inclusive to everybody, you don't need any special or expensive equipment to play, just a ball at the very least. Kids have played their way out of impoverished slums, kept them away from drugs and crime, and changed their family's life. If we change the sport permanently and make VAR a prominent part of the sport; how can kids play in school? How can the thousands and thousands of amateur teams around the world play? What is the point if it's not the same at all levels? There is nothing wrong with referees, the sport has worked well for decades, the formula works. No sport needs technology at all, people physically play sport, the only tech needed is to capture the footage so we can all enjoy it. Refereeing decisions have led to the some of the most iconic moments in football, giving the action some drama, making heroes and villains, giving the school playground and workplace some banter as you get one one over on your mates team, giving the sport an interesting narrative at times. Why takes extra drama away from the entertainment? If it gets to point where every decision is perfectly called by a machine and the referees jobs is reduced to just operating software on a tablet from the side of the pitch, then that is going to be so lame and embarrassing.

The problem with VAR isnt VAR itself its the people making the wrong decisions while using VAR.

Remake this after the Arsenal vs man city game, please.

I don’t even know what VAR is but I’m still intrigued 😂

Here in Belgium VAR is ruining the game most of the time.

for me, the offside line should get thicker. overal, that would be a wonderful decision

TMO is effectively VAR but for Rugby but that does not affect the experience, it doesn't stop fans cheering after a try. It improves sport massively.

I believe there should be a challenge system. Each coach can request a VAR check. They can only wrongly call for a VAR challenge twice.

So I stopped being into football after I turned 13 or something around that age (am 32 now) but why is this thing unpopular? Why would you want to get the calls wrong due to human error? This is incomprehensible to me. Watching the video, it sounds like people just want to participate in a tribal ritual and not an actual sport. The sport is supposed to be all about who is better and you need correct judging to determine who deserves to win. Screw the celebrating or whatever lol.

Football was fine for 100 years without VAR.

I read this as Pro-War vs Anti-War and thought ‘Fucking hell lads, this is gonna be a bit contentious in’it!?’

I agree with VAR in the sense that the concept is nice. I also agree that it's helpful. I agree with anti-VAR in the sense that VAR could be made better and that it isn't perfect. I also agree that removing emotions from soccie is bad.

The point of variation is too be accurate rules are rules

I read it as Pro-War vs Anti-War lol

Good video 👌

I didn’t people from the Middle Ages act as officials on a football pitch 🤣

after the seasons that have been decided by 1/2 points u have to say we need it

Saw the title for a second, thought it said “Pro war v anti war”

You should do a Pro Split Ireland vs A United Ireland

It's just a game. The only reason anyone knows what's happening is because there's an agreed upon set of rules. And VAR is a powerful tool for ensuring those rules are accurately enforced, which gives integrity to the game. Even though it's just a game, at this level there's a lot on the line so accuracy matters. VAR fills a hole of referee fallibility.

I'm from the future and boy do I have news for you about VAR

most heated vs so far and correctly so

Im Pro var just needs to be implemented correctly with the correct rules

Anti Var guy made a fool of him self, pretty pathetic everything he said 🤣

We definitely need Var for this argument.

I’m for Var. it’s just we need to speed up the process and use it correctly

Boy did he think he got him when he said "define important things" -""red cards, penalties,.. " Ouch!

Imagine the aguero goal with VAR

They're onto something with the number of challenges a team gets. Stop people from batching about calls in tennis

At the end of the day, football is a form of entertainment. Anything that adds to the controversy and overall discussion is welcomed. And at the end of the day, we will still feel the same emotions and passions for the beautiful game.

I love how the most heated agree to disagree are about football and dc vs marvel. The political ones are not even this heated

VAR is a good thing if it’s used correctly, there is nothing wrong with VAR it’s the people that use it.

I love football, I saw this and I was gassed

Do a rangers v Celtic fan

I thought it said Pro-War vs Anti-War

Why are they asking fans of two clubs who haven’t experienced VAR

Anti Var guy is a proper knob. Even if you are anti VAR doesn’t mean you have to be disrespectful