The Sawdust and Wood channel explains this in great detail. He really helped me understand how to use a miter saw!
@Patrick-kc5ur Жыл бұрын
WOW! My favorite subject to discuss on woodworking forums. Take any "setting" whether it's the miter saw, the table saw bevel, or the miter guage and you have the same issue. That's because " zero" is set to 90 degrees on all of them. And that means the actual cutting angle will be different than the "setting". The math works like this: Subtract your cut angle from 90 and that's your setting on the indicator scale. So, 90 - 38 = 52, exactly what you ended up with. It's confusing until you understand that simple formula.
@Iscaper Жыл бұрын
Great information, thanks for posting.
@berkmanyt7 жыл бұрын
38 is compliment of 52 IE: 38+52 = 90 degrees !
@jimmyjam48able4 жыл бұрын
With the reverse button on the husky angle finder, the tool does the math for you. All you have to do is 0 the finder with blades flush and rotate the top blade clockwise to the desired angle. Then press the reverse button and divide that number by 2. That is the angle you set your miter saw at.
@dennismulcahy85275 жыл бұрын
Set your angle finder to 90 degrees and re-zero it to reflect your mitre saw position relative to the fence.
@jpramos59592 жыл бұрын
Smart
@Lu-cho Жыл бұрын
Some one need to make video of this I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND 😱😱😅
@NYCKID19816 жыл бұрын
When your miter is at 0° it's actually 90°. You count backwards from 90° and you'll get the correct miter angle that shows up on the angle finder.
@diegoforest5 жыл бұрын
You are correct OG!
@MrPhoenix18005 жыл бұрын
That's smart I forgot about that
@virtualtube14 жыл бұрын
This is why I love KZfaq. I save a crap load of money, time, energy and grief from videos such as these.
@Johnconno2 жыл бұрын
Is the right answer! 👍
@JosVanWeesel Жыл бұрын
This makes a lot of sense now, thank you!
@bellemichelle94596 жыл бұрын
The mitre saw is in terms of "angular adjustment" or how far you move the saw blade. If you don't adjust it at all and you make a straight cut, it's a 90 degree cut perpendicular to the fence. If you want to make an 80 degree cut by protractor measurement, you only have to adjust the miter saw 10 degrees because it is already at a 90 degree angle to your wood. Thus, it's only 10 degree of angular adjustment. It's how far you adjust the angle of the saw... not the angle you want your piece to be. If you move the saw 52 degrees, your wood will be cut to reflect the remaining 38 degrees. Another way you can work it is to simply subtract 38 from 90 to get 52, or make yourself a template for the miter saw with the numbers going in the opposite direction.
@joed8810 Жыл бұрын
!!! Nice! You explained that well I was worrying for a second it was going to be some difficult to remember nuanced explanation so thanks :-)
@andrewspeer76559 ай бұрын
Get this guy a channel
@TheChizzletube3 жыл бұрын
wow i was struggling with that all day. you all just saved me.thanks
@Iscaper3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@josephquintiliano69766 жыл бұрын
The 0 Degree Mark on your saw is actually 90 degrees. Then you count down, So 10 degrees is 80degrees and so on.
@76shogun13 жыл бұрын
Start with your angle finder wide open against a perfectly (level edge) push zero.then close the angle finder for outside degrees .for inside corners push zero when fully closed as you did.
@davidkeppler376 жыл бұрын
Most of these are on track but not quite there.Yes 38 + 52 = 90. The reason your angle reads 38 and the saw reads 52 is because you are measuring from the opposite side of 90 dog where the saw angle is referenced from the center of the base with reference to the fence (where you are starting from). Hope that helps muddy the water !?Makes perfect sense to me.
@Iscaper6 жыл бұрын
It does make sense, thanks for posting.
@jackjune1566 жыл бұрын
well put
@speedgonzalez4895 жыл бұрын
Most of the other replies are right on track.
@owacko86247 жыл бұрын
chop saw were designed to cut @ 90 deg. with the ability to cut different angles, if you view the zero point as such it will help you understand actual angles!
@stoatsngroatsuk50124 жыл бұрын
The 38 degrees you measured was from the fence. The 52 on the saw bed is measured from the cut line, at 90 degrees to the fence.
@jeffzaccaro6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, well done and very clear. Thank you.
@postholedigger87266 жыл бұрын
This is because the saw blade is perpendicular (90 degrees) to the fence. The zero marking on the scale is shifted around 90 degrees to provide symmetry for the operator when calculating angle cuts. david
@ozziewalle22552 жыл бұрын
Sarcasm at it's finest. Good work
@mrbungle75864 жыл бұрын
That's the maths of working out angles. Pretty simple once you understand it.
@brianlink391 Жыл бұрын
A helpful tip I've learned: First, calibrate your angle finder on a flat surface along a straight line, setting it to 0 degrees. After calibrating, take your measurement with the digital angle finder. If the reading is greater than 90 degrees, recalibrate it to the closest 90-degree angle. Then, divide your reading by two, and you're all set!
@Iscaper Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@rugrt16 жыл бұрын
You measured inside on the roof and on saw it was aligned with outside of gauge hit reverse on angle finder and it shows right for saw
@chadbalash60236 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for the help. This is the info I needed. :)
@oneeyedphotographer7 ай бұрын
An important part of using these is changing the battery.
@rogercollette5582 Жыл бұрын
Hello 32 and 52 add up to 90 degrees. Your mitre saw is coming from the opposite angle. Thanks
@catainsilver6 жыл бұрын
Is because your miter saw is 90 degrees to the Cut so 90-38 = 52! I guess I am late, but I Still wanted to help!!
@dacutler6 жыл бұрын
You measured the 38 degrees from parallel to the face of the fence. When making a normal zero degree cut, the cut is 90 degrees to the face of the fence, so 38 degrees is 90 - 38 = 52 degrees from the normal zero cut.
@pioluna26913 жыл бұрын
framing square also give you a pitch angle of any roof simple and easy way
@Iscaper3 жыл бұрын
Good information, thanks for posting.
@stevenyau24437 жыл бұрын
your miter saw is measuring the opposite angle which is 90-38=52
@manfsntkane30006 жыл бұрын
Your mitre saw has an offset marker (as shown) 2:42 but measures from the 6 o'clock position. mitre saw measures anti-clockwise . 52degrees whereas you're using the digital protractor to measure from 3 o'clock position and measuring clockwise. 38degree . -same cut, measured from different start point at different rotation.
@wolverine82nd6 жыл бұрын
See sawdust and wood's video on her that is titled How to measure and cut angles for baseboard, crown moulding.
@JosVanWeesel Жыл бұрын
With an angle finder like that, you wouldn't even have to look at or calculate the degree of the angle. You just lock it and take the angle finder to your miter saw and position your miter saw (again without looking at the degree scale on your miter) to the position of your angle finder. So you're basically copying the angle that you measured with your angle finder to your miter saw and get a 'perfect' cut every time!
@JosVanWeesel Жыл бұрын
5 minutes later I realized my mistake! You still need to divide that number/angle in half, because you're not cutting piece, you're cutting two that make up that 1 angle.
@Iscaper Жыл бұрын
Good info, thanks for posting.
@marye86247 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! I couldn't figure out how to use the thing at first at all.
@anthonyb56582 жыл бұрын
Im not an maths angle expert how ever all the old carpenters I worked with never used the gauge on saw, they always used the bisected angle on the saw as a guide from the angle finder
@stanwolanski36884 ай бұрын
Seems same as Mastercraft Angle Finder. Battery goes in slide out tray, push side button. When mine times out, I have press reverse button then the on button.
@Erlande922 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This helped a lot
@Iscaper2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@garysmith901511 ай бұрын
180 - 76 = 104, then divide by 2 gives you 52°, on your saw it travels only to the 45° mark? Well, subtract 52 - 45= 7. So on your saw you move your saw 7° from the 45° mark on the saw, that will place your saw angle on the 38° mark on your saw indicator. Just another way to look at it.
@Iscaper11 ай бұрын
Good information, thanks for posting.
@kaneetsate16623 жыл бұрын
Watching this because I'm trying to find the angle on my pizza
@jamesstoe47923 жыл бұрын
Need to compensate for bite marks….haha!
@ovoono97084 жыл бұрын
0° is starting points, so when you go 15° to the right its 15 from the 0° marked position
@oscarm21477 жыл бұрын
Just by pressing the rev botton you'll have 52°
@pineapplewhowho88284 жыл бұрын
Oscar M I was thinking that! Thanks
@jason48326 жыл бұрын
We just try to get close and then usually end up taking off another blade or two...lol
@patrickpeterman48905 жыл бұрын
"IT WOULD APPEAR THIS TOOL COULD BE A "CAUSE FOR MANY HEADACHES"??
@rouxso51246 жыл бұрын
your video on the angle finder is right on thanks for your help
@johnjeffries1340 Жыл бұрын
You have to remember that the circumference is twice that of the radius.u need to adjust this for obtaining correct angles.. good luck
@Iscaper Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information.
@MartinFluteCompany4 жыл бұрын
iScaper1 how did the carpenter determine the number 76 to subtract from 180? Is that a standard number or was 76 determined by your reading of the angle you need for the roof line?
@danielg.95784 жыл бұрын
Just saves time the formula is (180-Angle) / 2 = Miter Saw Angle Or you can do the Reverse angle /2
@kevinbuchinski36022 жыл бұрын
52+ 38 = 90 so the issue for you is that your Angle Finder is "Zeroed" along the Mitre Saw Fence whereas your Miter Saw is "Zeroed" along it's Blade so you have to set it for the latter angle to get your angle
@Iscaper2 жыл бұрын
Good information, thanks for posting.
@williamspeedwell67274 жыл бұрын
Duh. How do the batteries go in?
@chascollette7 жыл бұрын
That's what the reverse button is for.
@billborden3107 жыл бұрын
You're cutting the miters based on an inside angle of 104 degrees, not the outside angle of 76 degrees from a straight line. i.e. 180 degrees.
@tehvlb7 жыл бұрын
Hey, but the small "r" wasnt showing on his device, so the guage was measuring the inside angle?
@joimprove7 жыл бұрын
Where does the 104 come from
@speedgonzalez4895 жыл бұрын
@@joimprove that's how hot it is in Texas 104 degrees. Hope that helps you😋
@pudgylittlehamster5 ай бұрын
Because of the quadrant planes your miter saw represents 2 planes 90+90 180
@Iscaper5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the information.
@derek4dragons4 жыл бұрын
mitre saw angles are from 90 degrees, ergo 38 degree angle should be 52 degrees on the mitre saw, 38 plus 52 equals 90 👍👍
@laichistudio7932 жыл бұрын
if calculations are 38 degrees minus it from 90 degrees which comes to 52 degrees. if any angle is less than 90 degrees divide it by 2 and subtracts from a 90 degree and the remainder is where you want to set your miter saw to.
@Iscaper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information.
@HariKrishnan-nu3vp5 жыл бұрын
With the Zero Degree mark on your SAW, you will get a 90 degree cut. You want an angle of 38 degree to be remaining in your job, which means you have to cut away 90-38 = 52 degree. Thats y the saw angle need to be 52 degree.
@kevindecot1862 жыл бұрын
Well put. The starting point is 90 degrees. Your measurement angle is half your equation. The missing half is basically what your saw angle needs to be.
@melissad1395Ай бұрын
Or I think if you set the angle finder to 90’ and then hit the button the measurement would match the saw!
@IscaperАй бұрын
Good information, thanks for posting.
@scottgloster43132 жыл бұрын
0 on your miter saw is actually 90. So 30 degree on the miter is actually 60.
@KZ-xb8fi4 жыл бұрын
This is why the invented painters caulk.. just fill gaps and paint..nobody will see your mistakes.. just you know it was there.
@bongmorales38505 жыл бұрын
Relative bearing of the angle thats why its different in respect with true angle
@ericzeigler86695 жыл бұрын
Must have been in the Navy.
@robpapagpa2605 Жыл бұрын
how do i open the battery compartment?
@kibegt5 жыл бұрын
Mitre saw has left side and right side from 0 to 90, 38 + 52 = 90
@Stainless316L10 ай бұрын
Just physicaly line the saw blade up with the angle finder blade to fence and transfer it to the saw. Dont bother using the saw gauge takes to long and to much hoping the saw is acurate usually not.
@davidbrewer79374 жыл бұрын
62+38=90. It is the way mitre saw angles are marked which causes confusion. If you re label your mitre saw in angles which match your angle finder, or mark these angles o the saw scale you no longer have to do funky math when using it...
@Ronei081 Жыл бұрын
90* minus 38* is 52*. 38* is the slope
@Iscaper Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@C2IT678 Жыл бұрын
So if you would have pressed the flip button when it was at 76° it would have read 104°. 104 ÷2 = 52°
@Iscaper Жыл бұрын
Good information, thanks.
@redpillpharmacist Жыл бұрын
You measured the outside angle, but you're cutting the inside angle.
@ILikeWorking19974 жыл бұрын
Osm tool
@keithbohne37183 жыл бұрын
set it to 90 deg, than zero it oit and if u measure your angle, it should be 52
@edgarrodriguez59595 жыл бұрын
Close the angle finder .zore it. To calabrate ..open it to 90 .okay then rero it now its readdy to use it works from open to close not from closr to open
@rohansa64633 жыл бұрын
Grate video
@Iscaper3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@snoww20095 жыл бұрын
Can it be used to measure the inside angle of a corner (ie. the angle between two walls)?
@Elfin45 жыл бұрын
You scribe internal angles, you don't mitre cut them
@Biker653 жыл бұрын
0 is 90 on a miter saw
@smardigitalvideo5 жыл бұрын
you have set up your saw with one square on 90 and 45. before use your level.
@bbrachman6 жыл бұрын
Can you explain to me how you got your Ryobi clamp to work? There are no explanations in the manual. I cannot find anyone online to help me. You have one and seem to have the clamp working. I cannot seem to get mine to tighten. I hold it and try to tighten it and then it comes loose. I am almost ready to drill and tap a set screw on both tubes to hold the clamp. Thanks.
@TheJerryWatson5 жыл бұрын
WOW! I have the harbor freight 12" dual bevel, lazer etc. The clamp works on both sides and stay in place. Try a flat grind on the set screw. On the end that meets the pole. Make it absolute square! Hope this helps.
@superhall2297 жыл бұрын
Does it sometimes poot?
@vineetsharma3795 жыл бұрын
Nice video sir !!keep it up ..
@philrichmond75678 жыл бұрын
Can I use this kit to instal laminate flooring diagonally?
@Iscaper8 жыл бұрын
Could be helpful in establishing your angles.
@davidniquot64236 жыл бұрын
.... cause the angle labelled on your saw is not the one you're measuring ...
@silouselliott59267 жыл бұрын
Good
@burtonsatshop20618 жыл бұрын
Could this be helpful in aligning dish satellite????
@Iscaper8 жыл бұрын
If there is a specific angle the dish should be set at then the angle finder could help.
@Mutlap7 жыл бұрын
one needs a signal toner for that
@jason48326 жыл бұрын
Only if u have a flux capacitor
@jason48326 жыл бұрын
88mph
@george78446 жыл бұрын
Jason Michel if u have a flux capacitor can u take me bk to 1988
@land85397 жыл бұрын
would it work to do my homework.
@Johnconno2 жыл бұрын
TREND.
@broomfieldsdual-sport2 жыл бұрын
How do you shut it off ? Lol
@derekmagill15895 ай бұрын
38 + 52 = 90 degrees which is where you started
@Iscaper5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@vikings8446 жыл бұрын
His little free library! What a fruit stick
@robertmccully27927 жыл бұрын
instead of starting at 90 start at 0
@kongmao16836 жыл бұрын
Nice...
@tresreys7 жыл бұрын
76/2=38 90-38=52 !!
@gateslattes46868 ай бұрын
Think this is wrong Minus 180 divid answer by 2
@tracynshea13335 жыл бұрын
90-38 is 52
@speedgonzalez4895 жыл бұрын
Because the zero and 90 are reversed.
@fatdogslow80115 жыл бұрын
0 = 90.
@Agent77X Жыл бұрын
Been going through these device and all them are in riddle format. No DIY angle device one under $120 that just tell you what degree you need to set the mitre saw for the cut!
@VictorCharlesEvans3 жыл бұрын
Hello watch seejanedrill video on this to explain whats going on!
@karenmartin56474 жыл бұрын
When looking at the numbers marked on the miter saw, if the saw is set at 0, it = a 90 degree angle when cut. If you take 90 and subtract the numbers shown on the saw, you find that 0 = a 90 degree angle cut (90 - 0 = 90), 5 = an 85 degree angle cut (90 -5=85), 10 = an 80 degree angle cut (90-10), 15 = a 75 degree angle cut (90 -15=75) and so forth. You can write this on your saw (or on tape and stick it on). This way, if you are cutting miters, you can compute the angle, divide by 2 and set your saw at the appropriate spot to get that angle (which only corresponds to the numbers on the saw by subtracting from 90). In your case, 76(the angle) divided by 2 = 38 degrees. 90-38=52 on your saw. 45 on your saw is the only one that creates an angle of the same number as shown on the saw when the blade is set there (because 90-45=45).
@Iscaper4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great information.
@macforme6 жыл бұрын
This video really helped me understand what's going on with inside angles: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iJamn8ilrKvWhXk.html
@patrickarchuleta95944 жыл бұрын
Angle findersvare all the same nothing different from the one I bought 20 years ago I can prove it.
@aroncarvajal70804 жыл бұрын
If it didn't find the angle then it is an angle finder just t not the angle your are looking for, therefore, it sucks and it deserves a bad review, you just did. I not buying it.
@colosistvan2 жыл бұрын
Miter saw manufacturers are stupid and copy each other. The 0 mark is wrong on the saws, 0 is actually at the fence of the saw! The fence of the saw is the 0 line, the 45 on your saw is correct but relative to the real 0 (fence), the 0 is the 90 and the 45 to the left is actually 135! Its a 0-180 degree half circle starting from the right side of the fence.... stupid I know. On top of this, manufacturers end the scale at 45 degree, sometimes the smarter ones at 47 or 48 max but in real life you need angled mitre bevel cuts for crown moldings or trims (non vertical but tilted) and teh walls are never 90 degree so you need up 50-55 degree in both direction
@Iscaper2 жыл бұрын
Good information, thanks for posting.
@Agent77X Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Skip this for sure unless you want to go crazy! This device makes zero sense! It is in riddles!😮