Even Joe Dumars who was ADs best friend on the team said to Adrian a while after the trade .. " I hated to see you go but I sure am getting the ball a lot more as we move the ball around better as you tended to hold onto the ball too long". And Dumars was finals MVP their first title in 1989.

In the book “The Franchise” by Cameron Stauth, which chronicled the Pistons 88-89 season, what Dantley said to Thomas at halfcourt was “I’ll never forgive you for what you did to me.”

Beef history never disappoints

I had a feeling that they would do this one because this was perfect! I remember Dantley refusing to go to the Mavericks after the trade was made.

if you watched the 30 for 30 about the Bad Boy Pistons, you've heard about this beef.. but only Secret Base can properly break down this beef 💯

What makes this beef so funny is that Dantley actually envisioned a scenario where he could actually prevail against Detroit's franchise player. Thomas def had some influence in getting Dantley traded but he prob didn't need to do too much because Dantley kept digging his own grave deeper and deeper.

My favorite quote is Mark Aguirre saying, “Oh I’m better than Dantley” in the “Bad Boys” documentary

Everything Clara touches on this channel turns to gold. This series is phenomenal

That kareem “foul” was the only thing keeping isiah from his moment in that game 6. If only they had challenges back then.

Dantley refs basketball games in my area. Super nice guy, and a rlly good ref. (I’m taking back my previous comment, he just missed a terrible call and lost us the game. He’s a bad ref but still a great player)

The Pistons in the 80's are said to be bad boys, but I remember being excited by their games aiming for victory even if they were unrefined... Chuck Daly, who led the Bad Boys to victory, is also wonderful.

Dantley wanted the spotlight. Thomas and Chuck Daly wanted a team

This was great. The Bad Boys 30 for 30 was one of the best sports docs I've ever seen. I gotta side is Isiah on this one. That part in the doc when AD didn't want to come out of the game and was screaming at Chuck Daley made me think AD's ego and pride was poison for any team.

I love when Clara Morris does these! The tone in her voice is perfect.

Dantley spent more time pointing the finger than building chemistry. He thought the world revolves around him and if he could have had made power to trade players I bet he would have done so.

Congrats on a Milestone in Beef History, SB! Always been a fan of your channel, and this series never disappoints! Here's to 100 more!

Adrian Dantley is from where I grew up. He works as a crossing guard and youth ref super nice dude

Zeke could have had something to do with the trade but Dantley literally cried about getting touches from game 1 when he came to Detroit. Trying to have a winning team with chemistry issues only works in certain cases, Aguirre wasn't a problem on the team so the trade makes sense. Aguirre later saying in an interview that he was way better than Dantley anyway was always a fun wrinkle to this.

Can’t believe Dantley had all that beef over 3 FGA a game. That’s insane.

Great video as always, but Isiah didn't originally say the Bird comment. Dennis Rodman said it, then Isiah repeated it. b/c he was the star, he got the brunt of the drama

Adrian dantley once reffed my youth basketball game. Super nice and good guy.

I’m a simple lad. I get a secret base noti, open video, hear Clara or Seth, click like, then click play and ALWAYS enjoy.

MIKE MCCARTHY VS AARON RODGERS BEEF BEEN ASKING FOR YEARS

After Detroit beat the Celtics in 88 they interviewed IT and he said that he's happy for Adrian dantley and nobody deserves to play in the finals more than him. It seems at this point they were still cool with each other.

Awesome series. I'm waiting for the day when we get a Karim Benzema-Didier Deschamps beef history.

Good episode! ~from a 45 year old guy who was born, raised & still lives in Detroit.

Clara videos make me really happy. I'm not even a basketball fan but beef in basketball is really unique in how it play out so I enjoy these videos regardless. Clara's excellent narration skills make these stories just as great, though.

Need that isiah vs. Jordan beef

One of the best 30 for 30s they made. Impressive since they are all really good.

Congrats on 100 episodes of BEEF episodes!!

I've waited for this beef for so long. Growing up in Toledo Ohio during the 80s n 90s, we got Pistons on Fox Sports Detroit (and Cavs for Fox Sports Ohio) and I grew up with the beef marinating, simmering, hell even sloooooooow smoked ...and now boys, now we...savor

On paper, Aguirre and Dantley were pretty similar. But then you add that one was ready to fall in line and the other not as much, the trade makes sense.

Karma came back to haunt isaiah on the form of a Dream Team snub… AD was truly a monster player.

Pistons won 2 titles trading Dantley. Not only Mark Aguirre but gave Rodman more playing time as well as team chemistry.

I watched the "bad boys" documentary and remembering Adrian saying he didn't like Isiah. Before he got to Detroit, he was "the guy" in Utah averaging like 30 points a game to being the "5th wheel" with the pistons. I know when he got traded to Dallas in the middle of the 88-89 season that eventually got the pistons their first chip that he could've squashed the beef and got his opportunity to get his only ring and didn't happen

Clara really excels in the narration on these.

MJ vs Isaiah, Kobe vs Shaq, Dame vs Russ, that's what I'm looking forward to future beef episodes. Congratulations on the 100th episode, you never fail.

Hate the staff cuts, and that some of it affected Secret Base. Hope the content keeps coming in spite of the losses, and that those who were laid off can bounce back quickly.

Who would have ever imagined Isaiah being involved in beef.

Pistons have been a constant in the history of Beef History and you love to see it

Boy this channel is slowly becoming a Pistons channel. Which I love.

Btw can you please make a Collapse video about the Bad Boy Pistons and also the 1996 Seattle SuperSonics (take the latter all the way until they moved to OKC)?

These are the beefs I want. The ones I had no idea about but wish I did.

As a fan of the Bad Boys, getting Adrian Dantley and getting rid of garbage like Tripucka and Benson was the beginning of good times. Signing Sidney Green and drafting Rodman and Salley transformed the Pistons from losers to winners. Hell, Mahorn lost weight. It was on. Adrian Dantley was a valuable member of the Detroit Pistons and I truly believed the Pistons would have won the championship in 1989 with him on the team but championships require chemistry and had AD stayed on the team in 1990 they may not repeated. Add in the Rodman factor and smart fans understood why A.D. had to go.

Always love the Secret Base breakdown of every beef. Even if they're ones we know about, the detail and compilation of sources makes it so much more interesting to watch

Great work. Just funny how Dantley always insists Isiah as the one who wanted him gone, but completely ignoring the fact that the HEAD COACH wanted him gone and was quoted saying so. Silly really

If you like above video, you might like the following one: Isiah Thomas vs Adrian Dantley - One on One: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/puBxdKWBts3RoJs.html

The Jordan vs Isiah beef history will be EPIC!!!

Dantley was a notorious ball hog, he was almost like the Carmelo or Iverson of his era where he was definitely a gifted scorer but that was the primary thing he added, and his method of scoring I think often stunted teams' growth as opposed to a Michael Jordan or someone like that who was much more active in other aspects, and his scoring was always more essential to his team, and he involved his teammates much more than a lot of other great scorers.

As a kid growing up in Detroit, I was a huge fan of AD & Zeke was my fav NBA player ..I was sad to see AD go & couldnt understand why we let him go, but after the New Bad Boys started winning big, I understood

Congrats on 100 episodes of beef history 🎉🎉 I remember discovering you guys sitting on my break in a target parking lot a couple years ago and it became a routine to have some beef with my lunch. Best sports segment on KZfaq

Finally Y’all listened to me… I been wanted to hear about this…

This is my favorite narrator. She has the perfect amount of professionalism and snark. With a side of snide. And extra dash of snark. It's perfect tone, delivery and pace. Oh, did I mention snark?

Dantley wore out his welcome EVERYWHERE HE WENT. Not just Detroit. Dude was the picture in the dictionary of the word 'malcontent'. Incredibly unique talent...a 6'5" guy who dominated in the post and lived on the FT line, but just a selfish, me guy.

Without question Mark Aguirre to Detroit is one of the most overlooked impactful trade ever in NBA history because he was the perfect fit for that Bad Boy Pistons team and a guy like him completes the puzzle eventuall resulted in 2 championships unlike Adrian Dantley who would always slows down the offense. No wonder why Dantley was always labeled a loser throughout his career because his playstyle is so polarizing which is why he deserves to leave the game without holding the Larry O'Brien trophy and even wear a championship ring.

Secretbase never disappoints. Word!

Excellent video, and congrats on the 100 episodes! A few random points of interest: -There have been a few comments about "wow, Isiah beefed with everyone." And it's pretty undeniable at this point that he made enemies, largely through his own doing. But less known is that he was elected president of the NBA Players Association in 1988. Not excusing anything he's done, just saying he very clearly had the respect of a large amount of the NBA, and it's more complicated than just "he was the league pariah." -Most people who aren't outright anti-Bad Boys mention the Phantom Foul to end Game 6 of the '88 finals, but what's less noted is the Lakers fans storming the court in Game 7 during the Pistons' last possession, when it was a 3-point game. -Like this video mentioned, the Pistons' '89 season was off to a solid start with Dantley, but they weren't running away with it or anything. Also, I feel like their overall record kind of hides just what an excellent run that team had from the season halfway point (right around where they gained Aguirre) up to winning the title. After starting 26-13, their combined regular-season and playoff record from the 40-game mark on was 52-8. They only lost at home once in that span, to the Bulls in Game 1 of the ECF (their only other playoff loss was in Chicago in Game 3).

As a born and raised Chicagoan, I hated Detroit, hated their team, hated their city, even those cousins from Detroit 😂 But I gotta give this one to Thomas, I don't think he made the demand to get the trade. Gotta remember, this was around the time Oakley got traded for Cartwright, and Jordan was seething mad at Krause for this. If Jordan couldn't have stopped a trade, don't think Thomas could have begged for it to happen.

Congrats on 100 episodes! One of the best channels on KZfaq right here.

Congrats on the beef history milestone. Love the videos, keep em coming

You need to have a big enourmous and attrocious ego to: 1- prefer average a few more points and touches than a better position to win a championship 2- have a beef with another player decades after you retirement

Adrian Dantley was traded after an INTERVIEW revealed Dantley's priorities were incompatible with team goals. Dantley notoriously said: "I know what gets you paid in this league, and it AIN'T REBOUNDING!!", among other things. Dantley was on the trade bubble, and the interviewer drew Dantley out, regarding his teammates, priorities, long term views. It turned out he wasn't on the same page with the rest of the guys.

My girl, you're a fantastic storyteller! This beef sounds eerily similar to what is currently going on in Atlanta, between John Collins versus Trae Young & the coaching staff. - Atlanta Hawks fan

In an interview on players tribune with q rich and d miles he says how you don’t get many players who are willing to sacrifice individual greatness (stats) for team success when talking about mark aguirre and vinnne johnson, the whole segment felt like he was taking shots at Dantley. He even praised Jordan for adjusting to the triangle and “learning how to win as a team”

Always here for Bad Boys content

That 30 for 30 was excellent. I remember hearing Mark Aguirre describe himself as better than AD, and laughing. There is only one person who believes that - Mark Aguirre.

New upload of Beef History on my birthday. Excellent!

FRESH BEEF!!! I needed this at work today! Thanks 🙂

The next one should be Nick Young and D'angelo Russell

The story is usually told wrong. It was a little known rookie named Dennis Rodman who first made the "comment about Bird." Isaiah Thomas was quoting Rodman. Listen to the original recording on tape.

Please do more, love y’all’s show it’s fun to watch.

Never seen that WILD Daly quote before gd Excellent video as always.

Chuck Daly rip 🙏

I had the privilege of watching AD when he was with the Jazz and real talk AD could flat out ball! Everyone knows Stockton and Malone were the 2 hall of famers that was the cornerstones of the Jazz success during there time in the League and if it wasn't for Dantley the first (UTAH )Jazz SUPERSTAR and the fans didn't come out to see AD, Darell "Dr. Dunkenstein" Griffith, Ricky Green as the core of that 84 team that first made the playoffs that year, if you recall the Jazz played quite a few home games in Las Vegas those early days in Utah then Jazz would have been In Las Vegas by the 1985-86 season due to Larry H Millers wanting to move the Jazz or sale the Jazz to Vegas or buyers from Vegas. Think about this the Jazz at one time had Dantley, Malone, Stockton, Drafted Dominique Wilkins who wanted no part of playing in Utah and had the #1 pick in 1979 but traded the rights to the Lakers who picked some guy nicknamed "Magic" from Michigan State.

Love all these beef NBA videos but especially the older beefs. 80’s 90’s and early 2000s

Good video. I remember this somewhat but you certainly reminded me of some things I had forgotten.

Clara and SB are incredible storytellers!

Definitely one of the best voice-over talents on KZfaq. Another great story of beef.

What a pleasure to hear such a talented and professional voice over artist, along with excellent audio engineering.

Thank you Clara. May there be 100 more!

The moment I hear Clara Morris' voice I know its gonna be a good episode. Shes such a good story teller

If they did not trade for Aguirre, they probably not have won the championships imo.

YES! OF COURSE we could hear the enthusiasm in your voice for the 100th episode... it's OBVIOUS you had on a party hat and, if I interpreted your tone correctly, you had a cake AND some ice cream... I think WE ALL could tell you had a little party for the occasion... you don't need to tell us, trust me, WE KNOW... lol! Love this channel and love these vids! Keep up the awesome work!!!

100th episode hell yeah beef history is the “goat”of all series on KZfaq 🎉🎉🎉

100? Hell yeah!! Here’s to 100 more🎉and a 100 more great episodes after that

How is that Beef History has gone on for so long and your just NOW doing one on Isiah Thomas!?

Congrats on 100 of these. Awesome series of content

Adrian Dantley sounded like Shaq when he beefed with Kobe about not getting the ball enough lol

Less discussed than most aspects of this feud, but it always fascinates me how some of these famous people, not just in sports, but music and entertainment too, can hold onto a grudge 30 years after you've stopped associating with that other person. I know I've worked with people where I didn't like them, or didn't like what they stand for, but 10 years later, they're not part of my life anymore, and I just have nothing to say about them. Not my place to tell AD how to live, but jeez, haven't you had a pretty good life no matter what Isiah might have said?

I feel badly for both. Isiah was vilified. Dantley retired without a ring. Isiah is the reason I found basketball after being a baseball and football fan as a younger child. Yet, I cosigned how John Salley felt the night they completed the sweep of LA. I’m conflicted for sure.

Love these videos. The moderators personality and voice sets it off perfectly! 🤣

Leaf is to Leaves as Beef is to Beeves. Congrats on 100. I'll watch 100 more. Clara rocks.

I absolutely LOVE Isaiah Thomas he had drama with EVERYBODY😄

damn zeke had beef with everyone

Congratulations on one hundred! This is one of the best channels on KZfaq.

Secret Base LOVES the Pistons, and i’m here for it.

Isiah Thomas vs. Dream Team selection process.

Isiah Thomas could open a butcher shop with all his beef

You had to live in that time to truly understand the dynamics.i truly enjoyed the video tho and look forward to more content like this 👍

This might be the best channel I’ve ever subscribed to on KZfaq. As always amazing video