Dana and bones have a secret love child

😂😂

Nvm, Jones is the best for the month 😭

Well done

😂💀

Makes you the biggest fruit then since they could both fck ur sht up and you couldn't do a thing about it 😂

lol

Same

Jones have been oiling Dana for awhile now

Yes, and Jones has videomaterial on Dana

Google what P4P means! You people are infuriating

Let’s not go that far. You can shame jones without glazing Islam

@@kannonknight8755 I mean tbf who else was there for islam? Arman was but he wasn't ready for it.

@@getroasted7907 To be fair Arman did smart for declining another short notice fight with Islam. He already fought him short notice, no need to do it twice

Yea Islam cherry picked Dustin over fighting Armann stop it

Go eat some more mushrooms... Who do you think Jones is... Have you ever seen jones getting knockout.. And having trouble with smaller fighters and fighters who are thinking of retirement

Would actually be an intriguing match!

But they're not the same size. Irl Islam get's 100 out if a 100 times. The brutal reality. Manlets on self termination watch.

Get's destroyed*

I think Ankalaev is bigger version of Islam. His fight with Jones will answer many questions.

It's Dana who didn't understand the question not PEOPLE

​@@MatthewMcRowanDana is just trying to sell people on Jones vs. Stipe.

Jon 💉 jones ain't goat

Trash resume on Jones

p4p list is fake and the goat list question will never be settled, the reality is that Jones vs Islam would go Jones' way. if you shrank jones or grew islam, we would know for sure, but we do not know and we will never know.

I think the main issue is that this is a goalpost that has been added, I never saw any indication that 3/4 years is the only relevance for a p4p list. Just go by record, why does an arbitrary year matter so much? Was covid that special?

3 P4P wins in a row for Islam is insane, although 2 against the same fighter. Reyes and Gane don't stack up to the top 3 fighters Islam beat.

Activity has nothing to do with p4p discussion, only I they are retired or not, Jon Jones is not retired just yet

​@@m.j.e.5245 when people say folks are confused between goat and p4p, they are talking about basic casuals like you lol

​@@MMAF4Ncope casual

In their prime to. Insane

True. Around 100 ufc fighters compete in 155 division, and only around 40 ufc fighters compete in 265 division or 205 divisions. There is a reason 35 years old curse exist only between 135-145-155-170 divisions not on Jones's divisions because Jones's divisions are shallow. Imagine if Pereira was Lightweight size, he couldn't even be top 3 ranked at Lightweight, let alone being champion at Lightweight. While Pereira already defended Jones's belt after winning because those divisions are easier.

Meanwhile Jones most fights against Washed-up MWs and still needed to cheat

@timurjack8773 If one dimensional trash like Justin or Dan hooker can achieve a ranking Alex Pereria would be just fine.

@@timurjack8773alex is a bad example He is a two division glory world champ His striking>everyone elses in the ufc

Excellent point! I completely forgot about 151.

@@TheWeasleMMA Thanks bro, big fan.

What about Islam declining to step in and fight RDA after Fiziev pulled out back in 2022

1000% jones even spent months on the Ultimate Fighter with Chael--a MW😂

​​@@crazypato3752Lmaoo it has already been known that UFC declined Makachev's condition for that fight after he offered to step in. Ain't no way Makachev was afraid to fight that washed up Brazilian 😂😂

The P4P best fighter doesn't refuse to fight the #1 fighter in their division

Even then he is waiting until stipe reaches a ripe old age where he is way past his prime and then can claim another win over a former ex champion

😊😂tt😂tlll😊😊​@@o2xb

@@TheWeasleMMA he never refused it though. Already had a fight lined up. UFC doesn't see the Tom fight as worth it, blame them

​@@TheWeasleMMAIslam cherry picked Dustin who is a good matchup for him

Volk lost to max the 2nd time.

​@@President_Shinwhat does that change? max is a p4p fighter too

Beating Volk at his very best, is one of the biggest wins in UFC history. Especially considering how insanely skilled Volk is.

​@TheWeasleMMA maybe if it was at Volks weight class. That's like saying Jan's win over Izzy is one of the biggest wins in UFC history...

​@@TheWeasleMMA not related to Jones vs Islam but I hate when people say Islam needs to defend against a real LW or else he's not LW goat Khabib's biggest win is Conor and Dustin, former featherweights and Volk isn't just a featherweight, he's THE featherweight that's like if Jon Jones defeated Anderson Silva in his prime sure Silva is a middleweight but so is Lyoto, Vitor, Rampage, Rashad, and Chael fucking Sonnen 😂 and also the names I mentioned were already past their prime at the time

khabib never doge fights?

@@Sagivbh Khabib was also a great dodger. And knew when to run, it gets almost impossible to cherry-pick at that point, so he quit. Any fighter that never loses is not challenging themselves.

@@Sagivbh We're discussing Islam and John. Where did Khabib come from?

Exactly and ducking aspinal definitely puts outside the top 5

Jon Jones most of the fights were of middle weight. Ducked many of his contenders including tom. Failed drug test many times but continued because he is American plus he lost 3 of his fights which were defended by the judges. Jon Jones was never clean and has been off for the last 11 years and now ducking all big fighter like tom and that russian dude . Want Danna to find him old man's so that he became great again . He is no where near khabib and islam .

Contrast that with how Jones acts when others are placed above his steroid ass.

it's clear that Dana doesn't respect islam nearly as much as he respected khabib which is weird since khabib years ago was always ruthless with Dana and will call him out in front of everybody with no care in the world..while islam is more of a company man and even finds excuses for Dana when he forgot his name..

​@@GTari-ob6bj Money game my guy Money 🤑

​@@GTari-ob6bj it's all about money and fan following. Makhachev will never be as big as Khabib. Khabib has a worldwide reach same as Conor. Even now people are watching Makhachev's fight because of Khabib.

This 100% corrupt judging. It exists. See Costa vs Strickland

Reyes schooled him anyone that says otherwise is a delusional fanboy

Lost of Reyes, drew or lost to Gustafson.

He knows what it is, he just doesn't want people talk about Ngannou being the real heavyweight champ so he is hyping Jones instead.

@@timurjack8773the same guy that got chinned by Anthony Joshua?

Nah p4p actually means fighting skill when you take away the concept of weight but that clearly means Islam is #1p4p

@@Tr-of4bithat’s boxing. This is mma ur just a Dana fanboy😂or Jon jones fanboy one of the two. But Francis has his way with Jones. Jones cannot box.

@@Cagefighter209 but wouldn't jones be fighting francis in MMA and not boxing? we don't know how francis will do against a versatile kicker, no one really kicked francis, jairzinho did and he got blitz, but blitzing into an oblique kick to the knee can end the fight there. So francis can't just charge in, you think francis kick boxing is better than jones? not to mention the threat of grappling. I think if they fought, jones should win. Francis will always have his nukes that can KO jones, but I still think base on skills, jones can beat francis.

Nah, Connor is #1 in that. Jones ain't number 1 in anything but inactivity

Delusionals will still call him the GOAT. I hope they remember that even with roids, he struggles.

He really isn't I think mma fans are just a little Goofy these days

​@@getroasted7907 Could you beat him?

@@getroasted7907He literally is the greatest fighter of all time. I don’t care you think he should be as active as he was when he first went in. In terms of having the perfect body for fighting with the perfect iq to match, he will kill Islam every time. His accomplishments are second to none, when Islam has as many title defenses and is still this consistent he will have done more but he won’t because the damage will stack on and he will get finished. He probably won’t even become a double champion in another weight class although I really hope he does. Islam is p4p king tho

and he is gonna fight an old stipe. Everyone wants him to fight tom and the guy just wants stipe. Just so that Jon's fans can go bs on social media of how he has a win over stipe in his resume. Jon's fans as a whole are not dumb. But the vocal minority are. They don't understand that a title defence against someone like charles or volk is worth as much as 3 title defences of any one of jon's opponents.

@@getroasted7907 id GLADLY wait until december even january for a tom vs jones fight no joke but its fuckin stipe.

@@uh3331 mate I'd gladly wait 3 years idc

If he retires after, his last 3 wins would've been Ancient Stipe, Gane, and Reyes. Even after that, he still isn't above Islam in the P4P rankings.

no, hes gonna retire gay after :)

Don't forget Islam name in there IV's and prescribed substances that apparently him and his whole team used

​@@siviwetshuma5437lies, islam just got the 50 clean tests jacked and the company apologised for the 2016 mistake

@@clkgtr12 Who apologised? When and for what mistake? I don’t think USADA made a mistake, they just chose to accept his explanation of why he tested positive.

@@XwD77 emotional reaction 😢

​@@magicM526Islam got flagged by usada as well

It has the names but I am not sure we can say it's a much harder division.

@@dark_winter8238 it absolutely is there’s way more talent and just watching the fights the skill level is way higher.

@@dark_winter8238 there absolutely no comparison between lightweight and light heavyweight

thats debatable. Light heavyweight is a more dangerous division where you get knocket out if you make mistakes.

@shaneg4388 Dan Hooker, Green & Justin are literally stuck in 1997 which how one dimensional their skillsets are lacking any competent grappling skills. You have to look at the actual skillsets on individual fighters from that era, LHW during 2015 had DC, Rumble, Gus, Ryan Bader & Glover all of which had elite level wrestling.

Can't use that argument when you think Islam is the best. If we take PED fails into consideration, both guys don't get the top spot.

@@allenmk138what? when did islam pop for something?

@allenmk138 bro, islam has never tested positive, and you're black. I think you're a bit biased

​@whysoserious0 look it up, either way. they're all on it, don't be naive

@@kelvin4910 he literally never popped for anything or his record would be affected

Lmfao settle down islam did not beat the best strikers of all time are you insane 😂😂😂😂

@@yallTweakin Alex and Dustin are regarded as the best strikers and MMA fighters. Islam ko'd Alex and outstruck Dustin. Jon's best striker opponents were Santos, Gustafsson, Machida, Reyes and Belfort who all are levels below the lightweights when it comes to striking and overall MMA skills.

@@alcottdevalte7440okay so this applies to the rest of them too right? Like poatan Tom?

@@yallTweakin where do you have volk at all time best strikers? and where does olivera stand as a grappler on your all time best list

@@yallTweakin Dustin has one of the best boxing in MMA. Volk as well have outstruck Max Holloway more than once. Both of them are very high level strikers. Now, you can make argument if they are as good strikers like Izzy, Pereira or Wonderboy but still very high anyways

Jones also lose to USADA. While Makhachev got the 50 clean ufc tests jacket last week. Jones will never have that 50 clean ufc tests jacket.

Technically no legged Santos

He made Santos 1 legged....

@@iflex1963 Santos blew out his own knee on a kick that didn’t even touch jon

I mean the Santos fight could’ve gone either way. If he had both legs then Santos would’ve won.

His legacy was destroyed by the drug use and his violent behaviour towards women. In no other universe bar the UFC fanbase does a person do those things and still be considered an athlete and a professional.

Only clowns like you think his legacy is destroyed.

​@@RaptureCentralControl it's cause they're separate. You can despise someone's personal life and still acknowledge their athletic achievements. If I dislike Michael Jordan it doesn't make him bad at basketball....

@@infiniterer287 so you'll excuse drug use in sports? Also, if a pedophile is a ufc champion does it mean we should turn a blind eye to his offences? You're clearly not mature enough to understand responsibility or role modeling

@@infiniterer287 you would definitely not have the same respect for mj if he was snorting coke, crossing swords with dudes, beating the ever livin crap out of his wife and running over pregnant women as part of his tuesday instead of being the obsessive, super hard working, perfectionist type of dude. whether u like it or not these things affect someone's legacy even if they don't make them less talented and successful at their sport.

True, thats why I think Dana is saying that because of Ngannou situation, they failed about Ngannou now they are trying to hype Jones vs him. But I think they could hype Aspinall, who didn't lose to Ngannou and won the belt vs Pavlovich who also didn't lose to Ngannou.

@@timurjack8773 I never thought about it like this but it makes sense. Dana's panties are still caught up on Ngannou giving the UFC the middle finger and making 10x the money boxing.

it's worth it cuz ppl focus only on the most recent things, he galzes him to get more money from the jones card and once jones is out he will say islam always was the p4p #1 actually xD

​@@metalface_villainThen dana should focus on Islam even more. Dana already complained they wanted to make a lebron out of jon jones and it failed so he might as well use his next cash cow that could be profitable outside the us especially with the saudi money. The push could help more by a business standpoint since he was talking so highly about that quote from islam. Then islam had a hard fought fight with dustin who's a fan favorite so he could easily just kept the momentum instead of being petty. It was islam's moment not Jon's.

Anthony “on paper” Smith

Watch the show today with Bisping, he and Bisping yapping that Jon Jones is P4P. , they both are Dana mouthpiece

Stop attacking his family.

@@karlricardo4088 wtf 💀

🤣🤣🤣 we all should not attack.

Biggest L jones has is the 💉

Everyone knows he lost to Reyes.

Biggest L for Jon is 💉

No buddy... P4P is about taking Jones and Islam and putting them in the same weight class.. And assuming who will win

​@@siviwetshuma5437exactly, these guys are clueless...

@@siviwetshuma5437 yeah, in this moment... And you cannot ''put fighters in the same weight class''.

It’s not about putting them in the same weight class; it’s comparing their skill level assuming they are the same weight. BIG difference. It also takes into account the level of activity. You can gauge a fighter’s skill level better if the sample size is bigger and recent. How can you say Jones is as good or better than he was before if he doesn’t fight often? That’s why being active is important. It’s not a nostalgia contest.

@@siviwetshuma5437Islam submits that chubby bear 😂

Exactly.

Lmfao Islam lost to Volk and got gifted the decision. He shouldn't be talking about last minute wins.

Don't forget Pol Pot

Rich to say Jones has fought a lot of trash cans when Islam's streak consists of old, washed-up and short-notice opponents like Bobby Green, Dan Hooker, Glenson Tibau, one-week notice unfit Volk. Islam also lost to Volk 1st time!

@@TheMasterOfPuppets9 Where did I say Islam was the goat?

@@TheMasterOfPuppets9 Shoguns best years were in pride, Rampage was a one dimensional can, Machida was a middleweight, Vitor was a middleweight and 10 years older, Chael was a middleweight, Osp was a can, Smith was a can. Jones is overated af

@@Hastalasagna half of those cans have been UFC LHW champions you tool. Vitor had fights at heavyweight and was juiced to the gills. Let's go through your boyfriend's resume! Some guy named Chris Wade, never heard of him. 100 years old Nik Lentz. 150 years old Glenson Tibau post steroids. Kajan Johnson (?), seems a part-time MMA figher, part time rapper. Arman, good win. Davi Ramos (???). Drew Dober journeyman who almost submitted this fraud. Moises, journeyman. Short-notice Hooker 3 weeks post fight. 5 day notice journeyman Green. Charles, great win. Controversial decision win against Volk. KO Volk off the booze and couch. 100 years old Poirier. That's your P4P best fighter! Let's rewatch Adriano Martins fight btw ;)

@@TheMasterOfPuppets9 “half of those cans have been ufc lhw champions you tool.” Yeah back 15+ years ago when the competition wasn’t nearly what it is now. Jon himself is proof of that, and that’s in a division that’s still not close to the one Islam fights in. “And was juiced to the gills” So it was a fair fight? Chael got KOed by Silva at 185 and then got a title shot against Jon in a division he didn’t fight in. Besides dc, gus and glover which of jon’s wins are even in the same realm as volk, charles and dustin

Exactly. Stupidity

Arguing over GOAT is also like arguing over fav colours, imo

Like arguing who is the coolest pokemon

It would be like him beating Edwards... top of the division is who Jones beat.

@@infiniterer287 relative to skill, nope. Leon wouldn’t get out grappled by a green belt like Gane lmao

@@tfc91420 heavyweights aren't dangerous because of their grappling, it's because of their striking. Gane is arguably the best striker in the division (outside Jones). He was litteraly #1 HW

@@infiniterer287 yeah which is why I compared it to Islam fighting Garry. Garry is a great striker as well but untested in grappling. Game was the perfect HW for Jones to fight against given the skillsets. Islam would take Garry to school and finish that fight just as fast as Jones which is why I made the comparison. Jones would have a way more difficult time with Aspinall or Blaydes but we’ll probably never see either of those happening lol

Thank you brother 👍

​@@TheWeasleMMAyou wish brother

You mean P4P most biased MMA mind?

Still waiting for him to become the best fighter. He's not even top 5 at the moment.

@@TheMasterOfPuppets9 name 5 better fighters

@@shaneg4388 Six for you: Jon Jones, Alex Pereira, Max Holloway, Leon Edwards, Tom Aspinall, Merab Dvalishvili. Two double champs (jumping 60 and 20 pounds in weight classes respectively btw, something Islam will never do), a legend who cleared out a division, went up and destroyed number 2 guy, a guy on a killer win streak who destroyed his stylistically nightmare matchup in Kamaru Usman, a HW who post horrific injury went up against killer on short notice and destroyed him and a 135 killer with infinite gas tank. I get that Merab is a reach cause his resume is still growing. Compare 5 previous guys to Islam who barely defeated Volk via controversial decision, KO'd him in the rematch right off the booze and couch and struggled against washed-up Poirier who bottled every title shot he's got.

@@TheMasterOfPuppets9 bro there is no way you are penalizing Islam for 2 wins over Volk and 1 over Dustin because they weren’t dominant enough for you but not Max for having 3 losses to Volk including one where took an absolute beating and 2 losses to Dustin. “Something Islam will never do”??? Islam is planning to go to welterweight which is way harder than LHW to HW which are easily the easiest divisions in the ufc to become double champ.

@@shaneg4388 Bruh, if they're so easy why Islam won't just go to LHW? He's taller than DC (former champ), walks around 200 pounds, I'm sure he would destroy Pereira, or would he? + Big difference in planning to go to WW and actually becoming a champion (Alex and Jon). About Max - you're doing mma math. Compare resumes - Max defended his belt more times and fought literally everybody in FW (including stylistical nightmares unlike Islam) before moving up. Islam fought 3 TOP 10 LW, one in Arman years ago. Max moved up and destroyed Justin. Max makes FW comfortably, Islam is killing himself for LW same as Khalabeeb.

1000% agree, underrated post.

Great take

Geez this is a seriously good take

True True

Thank you my man

Yep, they forget all rankings are based on current/recent activity - why else do they change after every relevant fight card 😂😂

@@rickybobby38 exactly

Probably at the top of it

Just more biased....

Me too. Our boy was hated for too long. They don't know that Islam has the most passionate fans across religion or country. Am not from Russia or Muslim but love this fighter to bits. He is a global star. He is so loved. I relate to your comment

@@Ddeepf i love islam makhachev and i think he is the most entertaining champ right now , but he is fans are bunch of annoying bitches if im honest

he can still get the sh*t out of Jon Jones, if he gains some weight. Khabib too, I believe khabib kills Jones!!!

If mighty mouse is the size of Islam he destroys him in most peoples mind. People are always going to give the advantage to the smaller fighter when you do that.

@@dark_winter8238 hey.. I agree with you about your DJ statement.. I personally think he is the best fighter P4P on the planet.. but here we are talking about Islam and Jones and "in the UFC"

While this is true, it is also true there are some BAD judges in MMA. Chris Lee, Sal D’mato….. for instance. One judge the other night at 302 thought Costa beat Strickland when in no universe can you make that claim. Costa may have won one round.

Let's mention Islam's fight with Adriano Martins. Oh wait...

Only jones and his fans would buy "I'm getting old at 36 so let me retire after fighting a 42 year old" dude is despicable.

Prime Fedor would take out anyone.

Started with Anthony Johnson and never stopped, dude dodged every legitimate striker in his path. Preferring to fight someone like Chael Sonnen instead of Cain Velasquez.

keeping it real isn't bias, you the biased one with that name

@@clkgtr12 wasn't talking specifically about this video, more in general, he ranked islam above JBJ on his all time list(😂), your second point is facts

​@@DoBronx181i say that's fair, i'd put charles over jon too

​@@DoBronx181I didn't know that. Remember when he said any PED fail takes you off the list? That's very hypocritical.

​@@clkgtr12Weasle hates a certain Colour of fighters.. Isreal was ranked top 2 P4P in his prime and weasle had him ranked in the top 13 P4P....