I mean... if you listen to his arguments, he is basically always right, cause he is assuming c0 yelan vs xingqiu, if yelan is like c1+ then sure... she is a better option by a significant amount there.

@@thesages3004 nah c0 yelan is better, but were talking about the no cv andy here

​@@thesages3004 what he said isn't even true tho. If you miss vape with Yelan in AoE, you also miss vape with Xingqiu because he's also a single target hydro applier. At least Yelan buffs Hu Tao's dmg while Xingqiu doesn't even do anything.

@@isgonnabeagreatyear Xingqiu will always be better than Yelan :)

​@@user-iq1hj2ds4qRainswords Woohoo (aoe)

High tier human

Medium tier being

Bottom tier deity

astronomical tier animal

I blame whoever it is that spread the lie that melt ganyu is her default team. Freeze >>>>>>>>>>> Melt any day of the week 😤

​@@s-zs7nnspeak it, disco ball supremacy

​@@s-zs7nnfreeze ganyu whenever bosses 😢

@@H2Ocup thats only if u play morgana. Othrwise all u loose is 20 cr

Me same, but it's even worse, cause I have c3 by being very lucky (he is also top 1% akasha), and like Wrio Zajef is talking about and my Wrio are two completely different characters)))

He feels fine at c0 tbh. Personally i feel like he is the most fun to play out of all cryo on-fielders at the moment.

Also dude still believes that Baine Marie is an actual team and people actually play it.

@@ginichimaruan3572 he's too dendropilled for the rest of the community

Wriothesley at C0 can still be very good. I recommend playing Wriothesley, shenhe, furina, xianyun and do plunge attacks instead of normal attacks. Each plunge can deal like 100k so its pretty strong. Plus the plunges are AoE. Personally i have him at c1 with 2400 atk, 2pc marachausee-2pc wanderers troupe, 66/245, 10/10/8, and using lost prayer. He is so good at solo-ing overworld content that it becomes boring to eliminate enemies at such rate (for some reasons the rank that akasha shows is glitched because it considers ‘lost prayer to the sacred winds’ as ‘cashflow supervision’ hence the crit ratio on akasha is 55/245)

Childe in shambles 🤣

That's why I love Ayato, like you can slap him in almost any team and he will work just fine

@@Med1umentor he is at least a hydro, easy to work around and very versatile element

​@tama2774 it doesn't actually matter that he is hydro, is so bad at any other team and his only team is still arguably the best AOE team in the game

​@@Med1umentorHoney you have no idea, try use him everywhere else other than international and is just decent at best, none can replicate that satisfaction to Vape with no ICD.

OPPA TRUE

Ya but not in c1 😂

@@SaptarShI_impAcT48 wdym Xiangling with C1 completely eclipses Wriothesley

No itz rizzly c1 🥸

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of xiangling. I try to play diluc. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play yoimiya. My xiangling deals more damage. I try to play Hu tao. My xiangling deals more damage. I want to play Wriothesley. His best team has xiangling. I want to play raiden, childe. They both want xiangling. She grabs me by the throat. I fish for her. I cook for her. I give her the catch. She isn't satisfied. I pull engulfing lightning. "I don't need this much er" She tells me. "Give me more field time." She grabs bennett and forces him to throw himself off enemies. "You just need to funnel me more. I can deal more damage with homa." I can't pull for homa, I don't have enough primogems. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs gouba. She says "Gouba, get them." There is no hint of sadness in his eyes. Nothing but pure, no icd pyro application. What a cruel world.

anything would work if Xianyun is C2 as current abyss is just piss ez filled with low hp mobs and mobs that cant be scattered from plunges

I completed Abyss with this team with XQ instead of Furina, so with her it must be way stronger, actually surprised me how well it went

Normally? Aggravate doesn't get much from a Xianyun/Furina-buffed Plunge attack since it's additive rather than multiplicative like Melt/Vape. At that point you'd rather run raw electro damage and ignore any of his kit's innate synergy with EM and reactions.

I co-op'd yesterday as Cyno with a Xianyun and Alhaitham and gotta say... No.

@@youraverageguy4930 It's more about the synergy with his very long field time. Most buffs doesn't last long enough for Cyno to make full use of. It's true that Aggravate doesn't benefit as much as Vape/Melt with Xianyun, but Plunge ATK still has no ICD, so it's not a complete waste. You can probably do some weird combos with it (like Hu Tao but a lot longer).

Zajefsley

No

@@TrueGovern62 Uh yes. Even multi wave Cyno runs are faster with Nahida c0 standards. Even Cyno TC mains like Noir absolutely reccomend Nahida. This isn’t like haithem where it’s a matter of damage preference. Cyno just does more with nahida’s buff ASSUMING alternative options apply enough dendro.

This! It's actually insane to me how they think a quickbloom DPS can be considered "cope". I realise that they may not like his gameplay but he still does insane dmg.

Goodness, I tried Cyno quick bloom and it's actually clear bosses much faster than aggravate Cyno 😅 Its so good!

It's for both 😭😭😭

Playing Cyno is cope

People shit on Cyno from their own stupidity, c2r1 Cyno has more dpr than c2r1 raiden but they refuse to accept that, Cyno is also very similar to other hyper carries like Xiao who needs 2x the support to function but they get way less hate for some reason smh. I still use my c4 Cyno over my c6 yae miko sometimes because he feels like a beast right now. Also most of them watch zajefs skill issue gameplay and then listen to his feels crafting takes on characters he can’t even play right😭

with wriothesley you just spam normals and sometimes charge but punching enemies with gauntlets is more fun than charge shotting with bow

Wriothesley is not very fun in my opinion. He just punch stuff and maybe because i play him in coop but he is always half health so easy to die lol.

​@@khoisai9357skill issue

@@odnt5529 yeah i should spend more efforts to beat overworld mobs my bad

@@khoisai9357 if overworld mobs are the thing killing you thats a you issue imma be real

bain-marie

Maybe he talks about his CA that drains his HP that limits his number of stacks for his skill, a pyro kokomi will be great with him yet Benny already fills that role with addition of ATK buff.

running 3 pyro characters including him that limit team composition

He is talking about is the enemies having to have a pyro aura so Lyney can get the damage bonus. This reduces the number of characters you can play with him, specially if you don 't use a pyro of field applier like Xiangling.

More powercreep

miHoYo are at the point where they can comfortably release more powerful and powerful characters, thereby powercreeping the old ones. And also, they can just ignore their playerbase which brings them billions of dollars, which is sad, but true.

Powercreep from whom ? Older character that are still viable and clear anything

@nikumilotic1333 tell me why would I play albedo instead of chiori, or ayato instead of neuvi (except maybe bloom)

​@@nikumilotic1333it's not about clearing abyss, even amber can clear abyss but the new characters just have better kit and power level compared to old ones so it's a powercreep

What am I missing that you can't just play Ayaka in that team instead?

​@@thiagobarroso1119Ayaka's plunge attack it's a heavy attack = shattered

@@Lunatikazzz and you have to dash to get the infusion which is cringe

​@thiagobarroso1119 Ayaka feels so clunky with her alt dash. I can never get use to her playstyle. i prefer Wriothesley string of NA. Salute to Ayaka main tho, cus that dash just pain

Wow yes what a crime it is to hype up one of the most versatile and strongest characters in the game that you can guarantee getting for free

this time he had a point though

He always have a good point because Xingqiu is too good, which we already get it because his that great, but I feel you for getting tired non-stop compliments he have for him but this time its not out of pocket.

tbf xingqiu is xingqiu

You cannot have a Heizou pfp and not also participate in Xingqiu glazing, taser literally has both of them in it lmfao Off fielders like Xingqiu are the entire basis of Heizou gameplay

Because it is, people just cringe over the fact that its bow charged atk gameplay Wriothesley at C0 is pretty objectively worse than both Ganyu and Ayaka in pretty much everything I guess he is better than Ganyu in single target freeze, but thats it really

@@grazz9626 I disagree. Having “main-ed” both of em, wrio definitely feels more suitable for reverse melt than ganyu. But I find that freeze is much more satisfying with ganyu considering she has greater AOE

Sac gives you EM main stat, so its better just to run PA

He said it CAN be inconsistent in practice which reflects what others found right after XY's release if I'm not mistaken, including Jstern. Also, actually taking advantage of Navia 3E rotations requires, well, clearing in one rotation.

@@sweatymobilegamer784 nope. navia's first rotation using 3E leads into a second rotation where you only use 2E, and it's only on the third rotation that you MIGHT have an ER issue, that is if we don't count any enemy particles at all... which is unpractical given that every enemy should be dead by your second rotation in this team. and even IF you have issues on the third rotation, you can just do an extra E before finishing the chamber if you're not speed running... the rotation is consistent. everything else is skill issue, which zajef clearly has since he stans XQ over yelan...

@@raulmaltrain6893 Exactly. A second rotation where. You. Only. Use. 2E. I'm assuming a "normal" amount of enemy particles have already been assumed for whatever you're saying is misrepresenting her. I'm not saying this is any different than some other units in practice (like solo hydro Neuvi one-rotating stuff), but sheets always make the assumption of continuous rotations and I'm not exactly sure how you think saying that the 2nd rotation uses 2Es is doing anything except reinforcing my own point. Also, check Jstern's Xianyun first impressions video. You can literally see a pyro aura get applied onto PMA in a couple clips of the Hu Tao team. Again, it's on that point of borderline consistency where Furina's RNG does have the final say unless you go out of the way to either delay your plunges or use extra NAs to drive additional Yelan burst waves.

@@sweatymobilegamer784 why calc for 3 continous rotations when no enemy survives them? The team with 0er on navia can do 2 rotations 100% of the time. And if you do get some er on navia this entire point is irrelevant Also, you want to mix na's with hutao to keep the aura, you have more than enough time to do so.

@@raulmaltrain6893 JFC. You are assuming a burst on the second Navia rotation, correct? Your whole argument was about her ER% reqs on sheets in solo geo being inflated without 3Es. THIS is perfectly valid in terms of analyzing her practical potential the same way it is for, say, Ayaka w/Shenhe, but why should we be sheeting Navia that way when we don't do the same for others (unless there's some example you know of that's actually gotten attention that you feel is unfair towards her)? But now you're insisting it works for 2 rotations per chamber when each second rotation by your own explicit description would only receive the particles from 2 of her 5 total Es? And as for the Hu Tao thing- guess what she DOESN'T have to do with XQ? You guessed it- cut time from the rest of her DPS window to do extra NAs.

His C0 performance is almost the same as C1.

@@baguette_connoisseurnope.

@@baguette_connoisseur Tell us you have not used C0 Wrio without telling us you have not used C0 Wrio

​@@baguette_connoisseurtheoretically? Maybe. But practically? Definitely not

​@@baguette_connoisseur he is like 4 star at c0 and a 5 star at c1