In other domains (software engineering) I've found that AI can help bridge small gaps in knowledge, which helps you break out of your own cliché patterns and solve things in new ways. When AI acts on its own, it goes the other way: It always collapses back into the worst possible clichés. It's only when it acts like a gentle assistant that it helps to create something greater than the sum of the parts. So for music, I'm pretty excited about more variety in sound engineering -- and more genre-defying music, by inspiring musicians to try crazy new sounds.

Whenever I feel demotivated that AI with replace humans making music... One of your videos come along and I feel a bit better....

Somebody just sent me a set of vocals, main and harmonies and shit. Im telling you it sounds just like human, with compression, clean vocals, right amount of compression. I was so flabbergasted to not realized its human.

I wish a separate service could be created that is only Ai, and keep regular streaming services only human created songs. If you think about it, the Ai creation is so abundant that there could be something like “infinite radio” that never repeats the same song, and the listener is always hearing something brand new.

Incredible video Big Z! been following you for years and this is something else

appreciate you sharing all your findings in this video! btw your voice sounds great as is

Long time follower… best video you ever made and there’s been some good ones! Great job, very insightful!

In ten years time each person will have a spotify of 1 million tracks all AI created specifically just for them. Soon after, people will lose all interest.

You have a decent voice actually man. Thank you for all your content! I put my first solo-produced/mixed album out a few months ago and you've been my main YT source of mixing tutorials and general mixing philosophy the last couple years. I am probably going to be signing up for your mixing course soon to try and develop more serious production skills going into my releases/album plans this year. I played in rock bands for years typically renting studios/mixing engineers out for releases but have gotten into electronic production and a lot of house influences in my solo project and some side projects I'm working on as well. If you ever need a singer I'd love to collab.

Great vid man, enjoyed the last part

best video i have seen on AI around music yet! Keep it up man, love your videos

Such an authentic and knowledgeable person. Thanks for sharing your adventures and work!

6:08 I’ve found Logic Pro’s AI Drummer to be a great brainstorming tool. I usually write the “main”drums myself (kick, snare, hat) and then have the AI drummer generate ideas for the supporting rhythm elements (shakers, bongos, etc.)

Oh, by the way, if you're using a conversion for your voice, you can actually use a realistic sounding vocaloid (like Synthesizer V) to create a realistic but flawless performance, and then use a different AI service to just change the voice to whatever you want, including your own voice. That's a trip, hearing yourself sing well.

Really well put together Big Z! I haven't spent any time with AI but might give it a go when I'm stuck. Cheers

Hey man, i have been following you for years and by far, this is your best video! congratulations... eye opening.

I'll go with your version Z, you're smart!!

Chock full of great tips thanks Big Z!

Final AI mixed&mastered result is great, but don't forget how good is the input sounds: your drums pack, bass, piano, voice and the arrangement in common, that is 100% of your work. It's pretty easy to mix that input stuff.

Nice video. And yeah, great catch that Output is just searching their sample library😂. I tried to have it so Tame Impala and it gave me some icky funk guitar stuff. But don’t worry, what you are thinking (more sound and perf generated on the fly) will happen.

The future is bright! I'm still enjoying hardware from the past so much, tape machines, dj machines, sythesisers, mixers, outboard gear. I would like AI inside a robot to be my assistant please.

This was one of the best videos I watched in a long ime.

Hell yeah big z on point

I can't share the happy outlook many seem to want to hold onto. The human experience is about to be obliterated. But I guess we already have a generation of zombies running around.

Very informative, thank you!

Those vocals at the end! hahahaha, you still got a career in music Big Z!

Thank you Big Z

Not sure if you've used Udio or Sonu , but they generate complete songs using just one prompt and the results are actually pretty compelling. My wife recently was listening to an AI made version of a new Persian song, sung by the AI version of a dead old great singer and she's completely obsessed by it. When I hear it, it's clear to me that's it's AI , I hear artefacts and weird pitch shifting ( perhaps mostly because most of the AI models aren't as good with Persian music , as they are with English music, due to lack of data model ). But the fact that she listens to it and loves it more than the original alive singer, is amazing to me. As a newly become "musician" myself, I'm in awe of AI while shitting in my pants because I thought I'll have a great journey creating music. Now I think it's all gone. And I watch KZfaq videos of popular musicians saying oh this is like back in 80s or whatever when Amps were replaced by plugins , it's not a big deal etc. But in my opinion, things like Udio is not like replacing physical Amps with plugins, they're replacing everything. You don't need to have any musical knowledge whatsoever, not even a poem, to create music. Whereas with plugins replacing Amps, you still needed to be a musicians and have knowledge. I honestly don't know what to do and whether to progress with persuing my dream of making music, when I see how Apps like Udio just produce music better than me right now, let alone in 5-10 years where I was seeing myself becoming a great musician. I genuenly think "creativity" as far as Movies, Music and painting is completely taken over by AI. Just like how washing machines completely took over hand washing. I know I'm being pessimistic, but as an ex-programmer, I see the advancement of AI in the world of music is beyond comprehension.

So well put! Have been trying to get the ai vocals to sound good, can confidently say it takes a lot of trial error, lmao.

Great Content as usual ........Greez Sandmohn....

As you said in the video - ai right now has great potential in helping you in some areas, for example: find the idea for the song or find the right tone, or maybe see another point of view. Human brain has ability to create certain habits. And most of the time it uses those patterns that were created during your lifetime. Different approach is very important thing not only in making music but in many other aspects of our life. There certainly is the best way to do stuff, but while you are looking for this way - you are spending time. Someone will find it faster, someone slower. And someone sadly will never find it. That’s why, as I said earlier, ai can come in handy. Maybe one day you find yourself stuck with a project and using ai tools can bring you that way of figuring out what must be done! A tiny point of view that you didn’t see or overlooked. Then boom! And you are on the right way! In my opinion ai tools will not replace artists entirely in the next 10 or 20 years. But who knows what future holds? Hope that we will live long enough to see. Thanks for the video!

as someone who avoided presets and loops like the plauge because music will be generic as fuck (dddddd drop the bass, stutter buildups and emo rock music), this is the pinnacle of my aversion. somehow it is so tempting of stopping with music entirely, its getting out of hand inflationary

Didn't sound too bad on my TV speakers, a lot better than my mixes anyways!!!!

The output coproducer thing is basically that they have all the samples man-made and reused from for example Arcade, but filtered and somehow matched through AI to your prompt.

I finally sound someone with a similar take to me about this, thank you haha :)

I agree. I listen to music from artists I connect with.

Suno is a one click song generator, it’s impressive. Still nothing to be worried about, but I’m very curious how good it will be in a year or so.

Sparks of senses, Z 🍀

I really like the idea of the next versions of Logic Pro having ai in all the mix bus master bus tracks everything and can just press a button to analyze each track and bus etc then you can tweak from there especially for people not actually technical in mixing to fix any issues rather than creative choices

To me, it's AI songs+MARKETING+creativity that will make a difference...

It could be pretty demotivating knowing that 82% of all releases are less than 1000 streams, just like my own tracks. Combined with the thousands of tracks released daily. But if even one new person discovers my music, it's worth it.

I AM a Music Produce from Argentina I make a lot of songs with My collaborators ,My daughters, I am worried but after watching your video I feel much better...Thank You man for the light You shed over This matter!

First radio play of a Udio AI song was last night on Oystermouth Radio at just after 9:15pm. The show should be repeated tonight at the same time.

You are spot on, ai is a tool, a co-pilot, not an auto pilot. So basicly what you are saying is right i feel, those who use ai properly will take the advantages of ai to bring them to the next level. Those who don’t will miss out on that, let’s see where this takes us, opportunities opportunities. Thanks Big Z, love your channel and vids bro. Keep it up

I think your equations are absolutely correct and your career is completely safe, for now!

I generally agree with you on the future of Ai. It seems it will really boost the elite in music, or the most knowledgeable in music production. (same in the visual Arts and writing) And those who don't have a full grasp of it yet, will probably not benefit a lot from Ai.. at least in being heard. And on that topic, this is where I diverge just a bit on the topic of Spotify. Seems logical that with all the uploads of new music increasing over time, the chance at even being heard, even though the track might be amazing is slim, if you don't already have somewhat of a following. Great vid!

I pretty much just use Suno at this point and crank out the songs that I like making. I've gotten a bit of hate (not much) on my channel for it. But I'm not releasing a massive amount of songs and the stuff I release takes me days because I only release the stuff that I feel says something or feels good to put out. I'm glad that people with specialized music knowledge are going to grab 99% of the Spotify customers. I'm not trying to crush any music makers. I'm just trying to put some stuff out and it's the lyrics that matter most to me.

The key element missing with AI, is its lack of emotive input. We are not perfect like AI, which gives us the creative freedom to make happy mistakes. AI is good for inspiration though, its just another tool. A great one at that. 👍

Great vid would be to also go over all samplers in logic

Thank you for an interesting video! Lately I’ve been watching a lot of videos about AI music. Some claim that it can be used as a creative tool such as you talk about with the Taco-example and further on. So far what you do on your video is the closet I’ve seen to that. In other videos the examples had just been putting in some key words and wait for an output from the machine, which in some cases are surprisingly good. To just ask the machine to do something isn’t that creative. At least not in my opinion. I could sit all day and write the names of all the bands, artists and types of music I can recall. That might be a good warming up for a music quiz, but not that creative. And that leads to a question I got, and would be very grateful if you would take the time to answer. What if I actually had wrote a song in the honest old-fashioned way, is pretty satisfied with it, and thinking it would be great to hear my song played by a professional band, so I feed the machine with a sheet paper and a primitive demo, and tell it to arrange the song as if it was played by … (some favorite band of mine). Can the technology to that? If so - well, you could still ask a lot of ethical questions and be afraid it would put musicians out of work, but it would be a wonderful tool for songwriters without a band. And if it is possible to do that, it might also be possible to go a step further. Because I may not bee quite satisfied with the first suggestion from the machine, and so I would ask for some regulations of some kind. Just like I would say to a fellow musician: “Try to do it a bit more … (whatever I had in mind)“ And through a series of adjustments I might actually end up with something very close to what I had inside my head. But is that possible?

I remember looksmart saying "our human curated search engine is superior to google" and getting buried.. I think the world is ready for a human curated music platform. Has to be a benchmark for a song to be allowed to be hosted.

Excellent analysis of AI's future role in the music industry 👌 I think you're spot on with your take.

It would be really cool an AI that can make drums like BigZ 🤩. Amazing video

Preach us Big Z haha you are one of a few youtubers that actually make helpful content and not just discussing and showing shit after the typical "how to get followers" scheme

Boii I reckon big z has the right approach to all of this - he’s not blinded by fear like a lot of other creatives but he’s also not an uninformed nihilist - I rate the nuance here (even if it is because his opinions make me feel better hahahah)

I was hoping to see you mix and master so we can hear a comparison.

The tune that starts at 13:40 was one you started in the Shaperbox video. Did you ever release it? I'm a big fan of what I've heard of it.

What would be really great would be if you took the same stems and showed how you would create a better mix/ master ie what is the human element (and will I ever have the expertise to do it ;-)

Relevant: Rolling Stone has played around with Udio, and writes here: “Though neither company will directly confirm or deny it, there is substantial reason to believe that both Udio and [rival platform] Suno were trained on copyrighted music, without permission.”

The big whirly sample chord progression is an ABBA song

already exists homie try Suno AI creating full songs from prompts only and they are sounding amazing! You should hear the "smooth classic hip hop song it wrote about my dog lol. It has 2 emcee's on it, creative mixing decisions, (drop outs on key vocal phrases etc) Caught the vibe of the 90's perfectly, drums sound great, vocals sound great, the writing and lyrics are polished and not cheesy at all, mix sounds great, all from a sentence I typed into it. I posted it to my FB and nobody can believe it it's like an impossible window into the past. It's already here brotha!

Getting creative energy out and into tracks fast is only a tiny portion of the actual goal (for me anyways). The main game (for me as a musician/creative) is the lived experience of having energy well up (within my actual physical & metaphysical experience) spill over and flow relentlessly towards an as yet unknown idea which in some undefinable moment spontaneously forms resulting in a massive YES THIS IS IT 'all aspects converging' fully resounding knowing! I'm not sure how helpful AI is in my creative process except perhaps handling the technical details and boring stuff. The last thing I actually need it to do is generate music, more of a technical assistant would be way better 🙏

You did the AI dirty with your vocals 😂😂

AI can just do similar things that already have been there. For example 15 years ago, no freakin AI could have made Bangarang. In a world where everything sounds the same, innovation will stand out even more. It's the re-birth of innovation, where still at the same time, there will be A LOT of reproduction of what's currretly working. So it will feel like everything sounds the same - when all of a sudden great innovations will rule them all.

@1:10 That's Lynx by Brooks right there lmao

..try Suno ai, you'll be blown away..!!! regards and thank you for your amazing videos!!

Bro I really want to see, you vs AI. Would be cool to see how you go against AI. You should make a follow up vid

Interesting. I've been building my guitar learning playlist on YT for 10 years now. Time to start building one around AI now ....

Its growing now😬i think its gonna make a huge change and its already being done. Completely agree with you, specialised knowledge with human touch and ai is the demand and its going to be better😅

What about things like Udio? It creates full songs for you. They’re insane as well! Honestly, I’m pretty worried about the future of Music production in terms of a career

Totally true, AI will never replace human creativity. Good video btw.

Labels, publishers, streaming services, splice, literally ALL content providers across the board in the music industry can make more money if more of their product is AI driven. Spotify doesn’t have to pay AI royalties. Publishers won’t have to split AI royalties. Labels won’t have to share splits with the artist. That’s the scary part. Owning AI will become more important/profitable than “owning” a talented artist’s music. If 2 in 5 people won’t listen to AI music as an example (which I don’t think will be the case, I doubt people will care), the labels, the spotifys, and the publishers of the world won’t care that they are losing users because they will more than make up for the lost listeners because for the Content that is consumed - they won’t have to pay anyone.

thats crazy

We live in such silly times. Music is a cultural experience and I don't get why we would want to automate and outsource this amazing aspect of our human race. Eventually 99% of all music will probably be created by AI and you will have some people who are lovers of human made music.

thoughts now that Udio is out?

Udio looks like a competitor to spotify to be honest.

Mestre!!! Brasil

I won’t be bleeding is an absolute track !!!! Your best yet

Hey I'm back here to comment - HAVE YOU USED THE SUNO AI? It's dangerously good 😢

I'm enthusiatic about using AI tools for both day job and hobbies, ultimately giving me less annoying things to do and being able to focus on the good stuff. I'm old enough to remember luddites having meltdowns about sampling and remixes, and bands proudly printing "no synthesizers used" on their album notes. Oh how times have changed! 😂

Totally agree with your conclusion! People are always going to want the real thing, and will pay top dollar for something hand made. It's like motel art vs art that people pay thousands of dollars for. Even if AI gets close to making something that a human can make, I think there's always going to be a market for the real human made track/song, and especially when it comes to seeing an artist live, fans will always want to see a real person! An AI singer or something will be more like a spectacle, whereas a human will be the artist.

at 4:49 Logic does this natively. Flex Pitch to midi

I wonder, if you use A.I to make a song, then publish, do you get the royalties or, do the one who programmed the A.I tool gets some of it?

The potential of AI in music is truly remarkable. With its ability to create music that surpasses human capabilities, we are witnessing a revolution in the music industry that has just begun to unfold. The future of music is bright and full of endless possibilities.

i agree with that other guy.. been watching you for years and thinking this is a new level for you production wise..you seem a lot more confident too. '"yo ..whats good..bigZ here" ..just realized you don't say that anymore ..when did that happen? haha

Some will use the tech to make things easy and some will use it to push the limits of whats possible. Just like when DAW's and plugins came about.

Apollo_Wurli_Phrase_08 is Lay All Your Love On Me by ABBA!!

This is so 2023. We have suno and udio now

Basic pitch website where 👀

R8 Bro 🥰

Copilot is not AI at all. Its just a search and transpose engine. All these loops are from arcade.

13:48 82% under a 1000 plays ‘per year’ correct?

Everyone and cousins are making those mixing courses, which is fine. I think course about 15:10 (knowledge + creativity + ai) would make sales right now. Interest is peaking and no one is offering. Just saying 🙂

Is this a re-upload or a remake of a previous video on AI?

Big Z just missed Udio's Beta Release by like a day....

"At the end of the day humans want human music" -Jack Straton and this is why Ai will never truly take over

So my thoughts on AI "replacing" humans are based around the expectations and conditioning of the listener. I have a diverse musical palette developed over several decades and many genres and am a musician myself. I can hear the technology in music that is primarily AI generated. So I don't particularly care for and definitely don't prefer AI generated music. But if AI generated music becomes commonplace (and it will to some yet undetermined degree), then people will grow accustomed to it and even expect it and prefer it. Especially people that are yet to be born. If, say 50% of music in games, TV, film, streaming, are mostly AI generated in the year 2030, will a 15 year old in the year 2045 think that's odd or a bad thing? probably not. Just like we don't think music created with software is a bad thing now.

I COMPLETELY agree with you on that better music will get the most plays. Some might not "like" the product but at the end of the day they would be the minority and such product resonated with a lot of other people

The same way that I'm sure that AI will surpass all human processing capabilities I'm sure we will have mind bogglingly stimulating and surprising music to listen to in the future, with and without human intervention. And ill be listening to it on a beach on mars.

I agree with you. HUMAN + AI will always be better than AI if the person is a skilled professional in that domain then yeah even better I use AI tools for programming as it helps me a ton, but I’m not a programmer so I have to fine tune stuff constantly, my experience would be much better if I was a programmer to begin with So yeah I think for music it’s going to be the same A professional musician/producer will be able to take advantage of those AI tools with finesse Rather than “relying” on it like I do with programming