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Nvidia will probably murder whole enthusiasm with pricing... BTW. 5070 with 12GB would be borderline retarded as even with 30% uplift form 4070 it would already be moderately performant card in 4K. And 12GB for 4K is not enough.

5070 with 12 GB of Vram is just hilarious

Give me at least 20gb vram on the 5080

Uh, who cares if the cards are faster if they are wildly overpriced for what they deliver? And even if graphics cards were reasonably priced, most games these days are not very fun and full of sleazy monetization. I don't even know why I still watch these videos. Habit, I guess.

The fact they are still pushing the 5070s of any kind with 12GB saddens me.

Remember kids, 30% more performance will cost you 30% more $$$. Jensen Huang strongly believes this and it really showed this generation. Also DDR7 is new and expensive, don't expect a bump in memory size until the generation that follows. Set your expectations lol.

Keep in mind, 3GB (24Gb) density GDDR7 isn't shipping until 2025, according to DRAM makers. You are unlikely to see 96-bit/9GB, 128-bit/12GB, 192-bit/18GB, 256-bit/24GB, 384-bit/36GB VRAM until after 2025, Q1. Basically an easy way to do a Super refresh.

That power connector still scares the crap out of me. Would've upgraded from RTX 3080 to 4080 had it not been for that connector.

It will be very disappointing probably, do not expect anything great from 50 series. 5060 and 5060 Ti will probably be 5-10% more performance and with 8GB Vram, if that happens i am sticking with my 3060 Ti for longer. 5050 - 8GB 5060/5060 Ti - 8GB 5070/5070 Ti - 12GB 5080 - 16GB 5090 - 24/32GB

The 5080 should be at least 20 gigs of ram

Tbh iam still worried about the price especially on 5070ti 😭😭

NVIDIA is going to do NVIDIA things just like AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity ...

Don’t believe people who say that VRAM doesn’t matter once you have more than the minimum. Every single additional gigabyte brings _huge_ improvements for non gaming workloads, you know, actual useful stuff

Don't think the price will be low, the just released their "Super" series so I dont expect them to undercut themselves. Would be cool tho

GPUs under $500 with actually good price to performance would be nice this time!

The Hardware Times article that you are quoting in this video has nearly completely MISQUOTED Moore's Law is Dead. He DID NOT claim that the "three" top-end Blackwell laptop GPUs would feature 16GB of memory across a 256-bit bus. He claimed that the top "TWO" cards (I'm assuming 5090 & 5080ti?/5080?) would have a 256-bit bus with 16GB of VRAM, which is up from 8 GB on the 4080 tier. And he very specifically claimed that the next tier down (I'm assuming 5070ti/5070 ???) would only have 12 GB of VRAM, but that it was also up from 8 GB on the 40 series. He said that everything else (4060?) would still be 128-bit with 8GB, and mentioned that it was disappointing for 2025. This info is very easy to corroborate --- it's in the first 10-15 minutes of his most recent video, and the video is timestamped to find it easily. Why don't these supposed news outlets just quote his statement directly instead of paraphrasing everything incorrectly and acting like they are quoting?

5070 16 gigs, 5080 20 gigs and 5090 24 gigs of vram. There's no fucking excuses as to why they can't give the 5070 and 5080 more vram.

What camera do you use?

8:43 "Can't target $600"... Nvidia "Hold my beer..."

I won't bother with an iffy power connector that may or may not melt. I also won't bother with a graphics card that will turn my room into a rudimentary oven.

lol 12GB on the 5070 in 2025. I’ll just stick to my 4070 TI Super with 16GB thanks

3060 -> 4060 +7% perf, 3060 ti -> 4060 ti +3% perf. I guess, 4060 -> 5060 will be the same Nvidia greediness. There is no point to upgrade.

I don't expect NVidia to lower prices, idk anymore I don't even have time for gaming anyway

I am gonna lose my shit if 5070 still gets 12gb vram. 😡😡

I’m not expecting prices to get more reasonable. On the good side we’re seeing a sizable performance increase. But the current gen prices remain high. 4080s are still around $1100. Regular 4070s are still over $500. 4090s are still $1800. We’re near the end of the generation. This is when really no one should be buying top-end cards without considerable price reductions. In a market with sane buyers 4090s should be around $1K by now. Vanilla 4070s should have been driven down to $400 tops by slow sales. Nvidia will move prices up. The healthy gain I see the 5070 making is fantastic in a vacuum, but my guess is what they really want is to maneuver that card to around $700-750…closer in price and performance to its ti variant. Especially with AMD opting against competing in anything above $500 or so, they want gamers to feel they have no recourse to opt out of $700 as the entry-point for enthusiast cards with green logos on them. Then the 5070ti will have an announced $900 MSRP but nothing available at release, hitting the market at a $1K typical selling price a few months in. I also see the 5080 getting cemented to no less than $1200 MSRP, with a $1500 minimum target price after they employ their usual trickle release, supply-limiting shenanigans. While the 5090 will be a $2K card for a small number of people who get the initial release (mostly scalpers including vendors “buying” their own cards to resell at a higher price), with Nvidia hoping to employ these scalper dynamics to inch it up to $2.5-3K over the first few months, however far their actual buyers are willing to cape for their nonsense.

I cant wait for the nerfed 5060 7.5gb chip which performs 1% better than a 3060

lower vram on high end gpus is a troll move by nvidia towards their customers , all that power and low vram is just useless

After thinking about it, I like the idea of making a generation cheaper instead of better. More people will have similar preformance which will lower the workload of developers in terms of optimizing.

nvidia is not letting up for amd or intel.....jesus christ....a company never sleeps and never take off their leather jacket...cause ITS JENSEN HUAG ...all leather and cybernetic enhancement that he can outlived his human form...work 24/7

Waiting for the 8800XT will be the best price/Performance card.

All these channels and even Nvidia themselves treat the RTX xx60 cards as mostly an afterthought. But those are the cards that end up topping the Steam charts and are the GPU''s most customers will actually buy. It's certainly interesting to hear how crazy powerful the new top tier cards will be, but their inevitable matching high prices with make them hardly practical.

That's so funny I hadn't watched one of your videos in a long time and didn't realize it until I saw you do your famous opening gets me every time

So basically the same thing just a little faster and probably more expensive.

Stuff doesn't load and stay low detail in Cyberpunk because running out of VRAM all the time. Give more! We're already playing at 4k, want to increase upscaling quality. Ray tracing/path tracing eat VRAM. Frame gen eat VRAM too.

Calling GB105 | 64SM;12GB | MSRP at 600$. (5080) GB103 | 112;16GB | MSRP at 1200$. (5090) GB102 | 192SM;24GB | MSRP at 2200$. People are not ready for what about to hit them. Good Luck with that new Graphics card everyone!

NVIDIA has a good reason to keep the amount of VRAM in its consumer cards low. The datacenter cards often have identical hardware as the gaming cards, but a few times more VRAM. Those cards are sold for tens of thousands of dollars. NVIDIA is not a gaming company GTX 1080 MSRP=$599 Tesla P40 MSRP=$5,699 Almost identical hardware, but the P40 has 24GB vram.

Just 16 gigs of GDDR7 is going to make the prices on the low end will be above $1000.

Cool, but how big are they??? Show me dimension specs!!!!

RTX 5070 for only 4000+ bucks

Every “Ti” you say it. A “TIE Fighter” scream passed by in the back of my mind 😂

96 bit and 128 bit buses, Nvidia really don't want people buying their cards anymore do they?

I doubt NVIDIA cuts prices....They are probably going to have lower production of both 5090 and 5080 cards because it feels like, if the specs are even close to being right, that they would both be useful as AI tools, and as such, that is where the bulk will be used, while the gaming cards will be in much shorter supply, so they will just charge what they want for them because in limited numbers, they can likely sell them...they're basically targeting that very small segment who will upgrade even if they just got a 4090 last time...and of course, if those are both expensive, they're not going to launch the other cards at reduced pricing either...now, what they might do, is they may not wait as long to drop pricing if they don't sell, but I doubt they launch at lower prices.

I believe the spec rumors are very accurate but i don't have that much faith on the pricing of the 5000 gen from NGreedia... 😜

i knew it. they won't release a 5090 this time around. because amd isn't going to release a top end gpu this time around. they'll just bump the 5080 up the price ladder.

I watch this man for the intro jumpscare.

I think the prices you told us aren’t realistic (you had good points though) because Nvidia will come up with „wow we got those features for you“ and they are just greedy

+50% for 2 times the cost, is my prediction

a thin & next gen 5070 16gb laptop will be a killer for things like photo and video editing and the 16gb is a nice buffer size for future AI tools.

Unfortunately it's rinse and repeat. Maybe a 15 to 20% performance upgrade (with some free dlss / ai update) and a 30% price increase. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't know how people fall for this every year. Nvidia know what they are doing, they ain't going to put themselves out of business by releasing a monster increase in performance for a low price. Nvidia set the price, not the market.

16GB is a joke, 32GB should be the very minimum

Do yourselves a favor and find a used 6800xt. Found one for $350 in great condition and I'm gaming away at 3440x1440 just fine 😊

Prices are going to go up. Inflation included. The prices on 4xxx series GPUs will go down, but 5xxx series will start at a higher MSRP than the 40 series did. Bet

And here i bought 4070Ti like 7 months ago, should have just waited for the 5070Ti

i think there gonna charge more money because GDDR7 is new and GDDR6X they charged more for because it was newer.

I'm still on my 1080 hoping to make a big jump to 5080 ti/super/whatever but honestly i am not in a huge rush since who knows how much scalping and early adopter issues and burning connecter issues there will be. I wish nvidia would give us dlss for pascal that would be sick.

16 gb vram on 5060 pls

5070 with 16gb vram would be nice. But personally I’m going with a 5080

It all comes down to pricing. Hopefully that will be much better

Welcome to 2024. The era of paying more for less quality.

They will again disappoint with pricing, you heard it first.

I am waiting for the next gen AMD cards.

5080 will likely has 10-15% faster thn 4090 on selected games and still using 16gb Vram.

Companies promoting their new products before announcement and release to get public reactions and call it "leaked"

I am 80% sure 5060 5060 ti 5070 still have 10gb-12gb vram

To play devil's advocate, if we compare msrp and in terms of game performance, nvidia did give the people a 3090 performance card at a bit over half the cost and lower power draw. Still though, maybe 5080 super will finally have 20gb or so of vram.

If your numbers are correct, i would be dissapointed. In past generations the 70 class was usually quite close to the previous 90 class and everything above that was much faster than that. If the 5080 is now only going to be close or just passing 4090 performance... the 50 series is going to be an even bigger dud than the 40 series... and could potentially be an even bigger mess than the FX series... which was also a 5000 series of Nvidia... So if what you are reporting is true and people are happy, Nvidia got away with skewing the tiers after just one generation. But everything is depending on pricing as well...

Good. Now maybe I could move on with my 1080ti finally.

Guess I will have to wait for the 5070 mobile before upgrading a laptop so I can run the local LLM on that vram.

if the pricing isn't at least as good as the 30 series msrp pricing, im not excited in the slightest.

Everything up to 5070 on 16GB is unlikely. they will most likely want to recover some from cards that have faulty memory controller, so same board, but 12GB, 5070 (or TI) is nearly given. I am most interested what will happen to 5060.

After how well the 4090 sold at above msrp.. aint no way on hell the pricing on 50 will be anythong less than criminal. It will get even more expensive than 40. They will release a refresh with the 3gb modules in order to jack the price back up to above msrp.

GDDR manufacturers are probably already binning GDDR7 chips for an Nvidia order. I bet they signed a deal to not release those chops until after Nvidia starts selling the 50 series. Personally I doubt GDDR6 would be much of a bottleneck for any next generation GPU except maybe the 5080 and 5090 class. As for prices, I bet it's going to be one of those paper launches where their is so little initial stock that Nvidia can charge whatever price they want and it won't be cheaper than the 4000 series launch MSRP because GDDR7 is expensive and the CU counts sound like the die size will be just as big or bigger. Nothing suggests the prices will drop, especially not the inflation we are currently seeing in the US.

Gonna grab a 5080 and basically retire off it. This should last me 5-7 years at 1440p and by that time i'll be 45+ and sunsetting gaming.

I'm looking to upgrade my entire PC to either 4090 or 5090 rig in 14 months, and I believe I can save roughly 4500 € for it - I'm not too educated on GPUs, how much more expensive do you guys believe a 5090 would be compared to a 4090, and would 4.5k be a realistic estimate for a decent rig with that GPU?

60% is pretty regular generation upgrade

So Nvidia is still going to be stingy with VRAM. Meanwhile, 16GB 7800XT is going for under $500 currently. But keep paying the Nvidia tax because I won't next time.

I see some people thinking we still are in 2016. Wanting a 300usd card with 12gb but they don't remember that the 3060 was 330usd already in 2019. It seems like it should simply get cheaper but that's not really how it works. It depends a lot on the economy and the market, and we have that and more against us. Yes, the 4060 is like a 4050ti hings have been improving; the 4060 trade blows with the 2080 but devs want more VRAM, not to make better games but to make careless optimizations.

2:40 scared me for a second. Just stuck a 4090 in my system and thought it had 24gb. It does... That msg got everything wrong about 4090

Can't wait to see 🙈 how long it will take 5090 and 5080 power connector to melt.. I'm betting it will take about 2 weeks after they start selling.. Any takers ??

Leaks are taken as such, wait till benchmarks

i hope the price is so goddamn expensive so my poor friends can't get it lmao

Without increasing the amount of VRAM it would not make much sense switching from current generation, especially for the owners of 4080 and 4090. What could they possibly gain?

4070 specs say 60% more SMs, 16%+ more higher clocks but only 60% more performance.... And we should expect better IPC each generation not just more SMs right? Where is the performance loss?

the performance increase of 30 to 40 series were nothing wtf you talking about?

If 5060 gets 12 go ram, then maybe Ti version might get 16 tb model as well.

The 5000s hit Can we all agree≠DLSS is decline of newest AAA titles? I am not upgrading my gaming PC right now

I think they'll still give us less VRAM than we all want on mid-range cards and the price/performance will stay pretty much the same. Maybe 10% less if sales are really poor. If the 5070 actually releases with only 12Gb I'll not be buying one unless it's very competitively priced. ie. way less than the 4070 super.

We need cards with 64+GB of VRAM. 24GB is inadequate for running large LLMs.

Metal prices are climbing rapidly and in my opinion will effect the price of these GPUs. Remember that modern electronics use precious metals.

So gpu clocks are reaching the same as the cpu's. 👀

With an average salary of 250 usd in my country its almost imposible to get 5090

3nm is I think 20k for each wafer....so if the die sizes are roughly the same is the 4080....the die will cost around $146.00. Ram is $12(this is a guess) per gigabyte or $240...this kit sold at 80% margin for $694.00 +$20 for the PCB +150 for the cooler and sold to etailers at 20% margin an RTX 5080 should be around $1099 or 1199...so there might be a price increase on the RTX 5080, RTX 5090 die cost will be(If it is the same size as the 4090) will be $249.99 + $360 for ram sold to partners at 100% margin or $1218 for the gpu die/memory kit to board partners...+20 for PCB + 150 for cooler for a total BOM of $1388 and then sold at 20% margin or $1665 to etailers...so expect this card to be $1799 MINIMUM for an MSRP card and the Asus ROG to be $1999-2199 and the MSI SUPRIM about that same price.

Bro say only the 5090/maybe 80 will come at end of 2024. We don’t see midrange and low end until mid 2025 or maybe even september or so

I'm skipping 5th generation it's going to be like when 2 series launched. Once gddr7 matures and reaches target speeds I think we will see the kind of numbers that are currently being hyped.

16GB Vram seems hella low for top end GPUs.

heard something about a new 5030 and 5050 that they're gonna be really great, kinda excited for that

it will be expensive but will be faster. And again amd will beat nividia in price because nividia is getting to greedy it really sucks.

I just bought a "used" EVGA 3090 Hydro Copper for $775. I figured if I was going to buy used, it might as well be something that's been on water it's whole life, which also reduces the likelihood it was used for mining. Alas, I got a brand new card that hasn't even had the peel ply removed :) I wanted the 24gb of vram over the mediocre increase in compute from something like a 4070 Ti or 4080. Also, I just don't trust the 40 series in terms of longevity.

12gb vram...what are they thinking?