It Only took 3 Generations to make this bike Perfect

It Only took 3 Generations to make this bike Perfect | 2023 Trek Roscoe 8

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The new 2023 Roscoe 8 is finally here and has been majorly improved for 2023. It's now a competent trail bike and rocking 29" wheels.
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0:00 Introduction
0:40 2023 Trek Roscoe 8
1:35 New Frame Geometry
3:02 Max Fork Travel
3:27 Finally, a Thru-Axle
4:25 Parts & Components
4:44 Rockshox 35 Fork
5:19 SRAM GX/NX Eagle 1x12
6:23 Shimano 4-Piston Brakes
6:50 Handlebar, Stem & Seatpost
7:32 Wheels & Tires
8:39 Bontrager Line Comp 30 Wheelset
9:28 Roscoe 8 Actual Weight
The Wait is Over and these are Finally Arriving...
This is how the Roscoe should have always been
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@rgrange180 Жыл бұрын

I picked up a Roscoe 8 about a month ago and I'm loving it so far. It's been a great trail bike and is definitely way more capable than I am.

@snowman22ism Жыл бұрын

How is it on climbing? With a 65* head angle and only a 73* seat tube angle, it sounds like it could be a tough bike to climb with.

@rgrange180 Жыл бұрын

@@snowman22ism I think it climbs real well, but I am in between a large and m/l and went with a m/l. It probably would be more difficult to climb with a larger size. Most of the trails I liked are slower technical stuff so I'm usually out of the saddle when I'm climbing though.

@klaymoon1 25 күн бұрын

I think Trek Roscoe 8 is the best hardtail for the most riders in 2024.

@BIKE-PLUS Жыл бұрын

Six years ago it should have looked like this. The lack of a 12mm axle in previous generations is a tragedy.

@anonomous2221 Жыл бұрын

The old Roscoe plus bike used the same frame as the X-Caliber. So even the new X-Caliber still uses the 141 axle. Don't understand why because even other bike companies Specialized, Cannondale and Giant all use 148 on comparable bikes. And Trek came up with 148 anyway.

@MrMatthias03 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting this out there, I really enjoyed the information shared, and the pace of the video. I just bought this a week ago, (my first real bike), and oh my, it's just so much fun right out of the box. Thanks James!

@user-wx6km7bn9o 7 ай бұрын

Dude you sold me on the Roscoe 8 I just purchased it after watching your video. Thanks for the breakdown!

@danielcuckler2743 Жыл бұрын

Ive got the 2020 roscoe 8. I have beaten the hell out of it and it has handled it all very well. Will be upgrading to a full suspension soon, but i'm keeping my roscoe hardtail. Keep sending!!

@nogoogleplus 13 күн бұрын

Thanks for posting the vid…I’m picking mine up on Friday…super stoked🤙

@300WINMAG360 Жыл бұрын

I got this bike about 3 weeks ago and it's awesome. I love it more every time I ride it

@nelsonshire Жыл бұрын

I would agree 100%, I’m hard asf on my bikes and jusr broke the rear rim, freeride riding on this bike only pre much 😂. I would recommend the roscoe to anyone looking into getting into biking, I’m gunna try mulleting mine tho 😬🤣

@emersongo9147 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool review as always men, I am getting one for sure

@siamese7577 Жыл бұрын

Oh man, if i could have afforded one of these bad boys! Loving my 2022 Marlin 5 though! and for less a third of the price i cant complain, ive added a dropper, and plan to go 1x soon, and maybe even a 120 fork up front

@mroctober3657 2 ай бұрын

Picking mine up tomorrow.

@johnsteffy4472 11 ай бұрын

Looks great

@shadrackmusa886 Жыл бұрын

Great bike and fantastic informational video. No bias

@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Rocket5150 Жыл бұрын

I love my DS4; but damn; gimme that bike.

@nicks8026 Жыл бұрын

Sweet reflectors. They really tie the bike together!

@dontron6603 Жыл бұрын

Lmao it’s display model he’s been lended to do a review.

@ccadp1219 2 жыл бұрын

Very good overall review James....TREK makes some top notch bikes at each level.

@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын

They do make nice things

@KermitOfWar Жыл бұрын

Where are Trek bikes manufactured?

@Durwood71 Жыл бұрын

@@KermitOfWar I bought a Marlin 8 last year, and the frame had a "Made in China" sticker on it. I was at the Trek shop the other day, and the latest edition of the Marlin 8 had a "Made in Cambodia" sticker on the frame. So to answer your question, I think it depends. Only way you can know for certain is by looking for the "Made in [Country]" label.

@Nico-kt4st Жыл бұрын

Got a Roscoe 9 coming in a month hopefully, been waiting a year almost

@richarde1355 Жыл бұрын

James, thanks for yet another stellar review - good pacing, informative, detailed and, well, fun. Quick question; whenever I see a bike stand like the one you're using here, and I look them up online, those that I find specifically say not for use with disc brakes. Obviously yours works with disc brake wheels; where can I find one of these? Thanks in advance!

@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын

This is the one I use in this video, and it is terrific. - www.landrys.com/product/giant-adjustable-height-1-bike-floor-stand-397983-1.htm

@johngulino2651 Жыл бұрын

I am so tempted to pick up a Roscoe 8. And there is a Trek dealer just down the street. 🤔😀🤔😀

@deanfaz9445 Жыл бұрын

Just picked up the 8, I absolutely love it. Feels right for the price ($2,000) on sale. Comes ready out of the box. Don’t think i need any upgrades.

@twinsfeederfishing4487 10 ай бұрын

In Croatia out of the box is 1850 i think is worth that price only thing i am sceptic is size 5'9 (176cm) any sugesstions M/L!!?

@Jose-sy1je Ай бұрын

@@twinsfeederfishing4487Why are those bikes cheaper in Europe?

@iLuvNegrosO. Жыл бұрын

Can you please make a review on the trek xcaliber 8 and 9 2022 as well?

@rider65 Жыл бұрын

Finally, you have made something worthy and true as far as bike assessment. 👍

@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын

Finally, I've lived up to your expectations

@rider65 Жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy 😂 I love sarcasm mate! Nice.👍

@jermanyatko Жыл бұрын

Finally... Have looked at it about four years ago, but geometry and quick release on back wheel looked awful. Already got Orbea Laufey, great bike. Now Trek looks like not a bad choice.

@jiw71 Жыл бұрын

Spinoff from the Trek Stache 9. One of Treks winners for sure.

@steviesteve750 2 ай бұрын

Just ordered one, on sale in the UK for only about £150 more than the 7 which was my original choice.

@JimmyBeanz13 Жыл бұрын

Those new specs are pretty good. I bought a 2018 xcal 8 on a whim when I just started into mountain biking(same frame as a roscoe then). I have about the same money into my new Ragley big al build with a used like new to me fox 34 elite. The stan's new mk4 with with m-pulse hub put me over budget of this bike but man is it nice having a MUCH better set of wheels! I do like to see what they have done with the platform...fixed pretty much every complaint I had on mine. 455 reach on a large or medium? Either way awesome stuff.

@JimmyBeanz13 Жыл бұрын

450-460 is the sweet spot for me, so either way it is a win because I had a medium that I rode while my broken back was healing(sat like mary poppins) on my old Trek. Now my 5'6 10yo is riding it and I went to a Large size Ragley.

@andreasm2882 Жыл бұрын

I love my 22 Roscoe 8. As of today I have 128 miles of mountain biking since June 25th. And yes the 22 and 23 are the same.

@curtydbikes Жыл бұрын

Was looking for this! Thanks!

@twinsfeederfishing4487 Жыл бұрын

In Croatia Roscoe 8 is around 1850 € i think its pretty nice deal for the money

@davidcasbe2857 Жыл бұрын

Super cool review pero hay un error, el ángulo efectivo del tubo del sillín es 74,7°

@bburnsey Жыл бұрын

Nice review, this bike is as much bike as a lot of us really need to ride. Trek knocked the price down in spring of 2023, making these a great buy.

@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын

Right on!

@ChristopherGaffney-fe5ve Жыл бұрын

Just snagged one for $1850 + tax :) .. Can confirm :)

@joseperezpaz9986 Жыл бұрын

Love this bike!! A lot better than the 2021 Xcaliber I had

@jetmirselimi8944 17 күн бұрын

hey sir its been a while, but I wanted to ask how the roscoe performs on pavement compared to the Xcaliber, is the Xcaliber that much faster on the road? cheers

@joseperezpaz9986 17 күн бұрын

@@jetmirselimi8944 xcaliber is faster on road since it’s lighter with thinner tire.

@jetmirselimi8944 17 күн бұрын

@@joseperezpaz9986 thanks man for replying💪

@josh33172 Жыл бұрын

At first I wanted to interject and say the Santa Cruz Chameleon is a better deal, but really I was wrong....and finally they're putting T/As. I bought an 22 X-caliber 9 in the blue to yellow fade for my wife because that's the bike she wanted (for the color), and was really annoyed to find a "Boost 141 QR. The spec is incredibly good with XT/SLX 12sp drivetrain otherwise. This spec is quite good for the price. I do believe the Giant Fathom should be considered when looking at this though. The difference being that Giant is using house brand components for the dropper and fork...and the drivetrain is a step down, but w/ the price difference it could easily be a step up if the same amount of money was spent. That said.....I prefer the geometry on this bike over the Fathom...I never really got along with super steep seat tubes on hardtails. I stand and pedal a lot and it always feels like the saddle isn't far enough back out of the way. ~73-74 is fine but 75+ no bueno...

@johnnyrocket1320 Жыл бұрын

Just bought this 8 in medium large. Overall presentation, fit/finish is excellent.

@matjj676 Жыл бұрын

Can I ask your size? I'm trying to decide between a M and M/L. I'm 5'9" 32" inseam, shorter torso... Thanks!

@johnnyrocket1320 Жыл бұрын

@@matjj676 I'm 5'11" . 32 inseam. Bought a medium/large. Fits perfect. Trek store sized me. 👌

@johnnyrocket1320 Жыл бұрын

@Mat Jj one more thing. Wherever you purchase yours, ask them to set the fork SAG settings to your body weight and build. The air charge - based upon how you sit on the bike - determines SAG. They went to the RockShox website for the spec. Mine was set to 20% SAG, I believe.

@matjj676 Жыл бұрын

@@johnnyrocket1320 Awesome, thank you! 👍

@River_Miles 9 күн бұрын

I'm 5'-7" with 30" inseam and initially got a M/L size but switched to a M for a perfect fit. Buy an airshock pump. With a pump you can dial in the settings exactly how you want, which may change based on seasons and extra gear your wearing, or like me changing weight through the year. I have the RockShox digital pump and it easily lets you make changes to 0.1 PSI by slightly over pumping and then purging / bumping air out while connected.

@SupaNIWA 7 ай бұрын

In NZ the Ruscoe 9 has been at around $1500 USD for a few months now, worth the buy!

@seanbyres4831 7 ай бұрын

yeah I picked one up for 2600 nzd, bloody steal!

@Jose-sy1je Ай бұрын

Why would it be so cheap? Normally NZ and Australia are so expensive

@SupaNIWA Ай бұрын

@@Jose-sy1je yeah dunno aye, must be overstocked and bad economy.

@Jose-sy1je Ай бұрын

@@SupaNIWA I thought the economy is booming these. I heard of the insane home prices.

@mr.sinister1279 Жыл бұрын

For that price they can keep it!!

@irishman485 2 ай бұрын

So I just bought this bike and picked it up and noticed they have the TRP slate evo brakes how are they compared to the shimano brakes I have shimano on my cannondale road bike I bought in. 2020

@tmb1065 Жыл бұрын

any issues with the nx/gx spec?

@ravennexusmh Жыл бұрын

still not as a rad angles as the hello dave, but they're getting there.

@ash110287 5 ай бұрын

How is this bike compare to the cannondale trail 5 please ?

@suchasreallife Жыл бұрын

Way better option then the giant fathom

@MikP86 11 ай бұрын

29 inch tires? Im used to 26 inch tires...will it be that much different?

@Sangram-IND 2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@TheChange-jd5zt 10 ай бұрын

Does anyone know what the exact spec of this bikes rear axel is if I were to replace it ?

@Austin-cn7eh Жыл бұрын

I just got my Roscoe 8 a couple weeks ago. Bit pricey for what it is, but it rides great. I'm 6'4" 280 lbs and I ride it up hill with no problems. I did upgrade to a longer stem and taller bars but that's all it needed for me to feel at home in the saddle

@rider65 Жыл бұрын

The one down side, ALL Treks are overpriced. Decent bikes, but too much $

@roccochiero5117 Жыл бұрын

Hi Austin. You are my exact dimensions. And I also just got the 8 in XL. What size did you get? And what stem and handlebars did you choose ? I feel a tad cramped in the cockpit. I just changed the xr4 tires and put on some faster rolling Kendas

@roccochiero5117 Жыл бұрын

Hi Austin. You are my exact dimensions. And I also just got the 8 in XL. What size did you get? And what stem and handlebars did you choose ?...I feel a tad crammed in the cockpit. I changed the xr4 tires to a faster rolling Kenda.

@Durwood71 7 ай бұрын

@@rider65 I always see people complain about how overpriced Trek bikes are, but whenever I look up competing brands with comparable specs and components, they're priced about the same.

@River_Miles 9 күн бұрын

They are a good deal now in the US. Roscoe 8 at $1600, Roscoe 9 at $2k but available sizing of the 9 may be limited.

@DennisVeilleux-ll8im 10 ай бұрын

Quiet you can whisper and the noise level will not interfered in you sleeping or conversation.

@mkviz Жыл бұрын

What about the Roscoe 9

@harrygrimley4352 Жыл бұрын

That's very nice. How do I get my address to you to send it to me? Thanks for sharing this with us.

@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын

Lol

@UKMitchy 2 жыл бұрын

Nice bike, but that front brake hose loop is driving me crazy lol. Someone shorten it please.

@FancyAnimal Жыл бұрын

That’s a lot of money for a 30 lb intermed Chinese hardtail. Glad I’m still riding my old cannondales.

@slaisebam 9 ай бұрын

Vietnamese

@MaQuGo119 2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully X Caliber 23 is upgraded also, shit's expensive and not worth it

@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын

Will be interesting to see what if any changes come to the X-Cal

@GokkunGuru 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome frame. Why do so many bikes have that weird tapered gusset on the seat tube?

@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын

So it doesn't crack. They are making the top tube come down low for stand over, but that requires a bit of reinforcement

@GokkunGuru 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy Thanks for explaining that. I'm guessing carbon fiber is different and allows for the seat tube to remain straight and not need such bulky reinforcement?

@TheDiablosix6six 2 жыл бұрын

@@GokkunGuru My carbon Fuel Ex has that reinforcement on the seat tube, it just looks a whole lot better than a weird looking welded add on that u see on this bike and all other trek alloy bikes!!

@GokkunGuru 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDiablosix6six Indeed it looks a lot nicer on the carbon frame. On alloy frames, that reinforced add-on is truly an eye-sore.

@amdmg7 Жыл бұрын

73.1° seat tube angle isn't steep nowadays

@BenJamin-ou7kd Жыл бұрын

I was looking for meaty 27.5 plus tires on a bike , now where do I look ?

@Bangandthedirtisgone Жыл бұрын

The current Roscoe 6 still comes with those tyres.

@tonyparkin3379 Жыл бұрын

Least they haven't taken as long as Cannondale or cube, to make a hardcore hardtail.

@bikemike1118 Жыл бұрын

Three generations isn’t a short attempt given that this is an long existing bike manufacturer. But this is not like in the early 90s anymore when the CEO‘s of the small American bike brands were still riding themselves… the Taiwanese workers don’t go biking (or mountain biking for that matter) and therefore have no own experience what is important in a bike. They simply go to work, work their 8-10 hours and go home on their couch. Well, the golden era of mountain bikes is long gone, unfortunately !

@QT31160 Жыл бұрын

So, is it worth going for the Roscoe 9 over the 8? Over here in Europe, the price increase from a 7 (€1,699) to an 8 (€2,399) is +€700. Yet, to upgrade from an 8 to a 9 (€2,399) is only another +€300. For this premium the 9 gets a Fox Rhythm 36, Shimano SLX/ XT, and general improvements which lead to a ca.500g weight save over the 8. Therefore, if one is prepared to pay €2,399 for the 8, does it make sense to just fork out the extra €300 and get the 9?

@robertpeters6108 8 ай бұрын

I would say yes definitely it is worth it. You may heard this before but will say again, it is always less expensive to buy a package rather than buying separate components, so always better to buy the best bike you can afford from the start, especially if you plan to upgrade. Because yes the upgrades you get from the 9 will cost much more than 300 if you buy separately. But for someone who is really on a tight budget, upgrading gradually can also make sense to be able to eat and pay the bills lol! That's why the saying goes; buy the best you can afford. Some People can afford building their dream bike from the get go and will purchase a frame set alone and personally choose each component they want on the bike.

@victorbodon Жыл бұрын

It very much feels like the fuse to me. The geometry is very similar.. Maybe im looking at it wrong? *edited for context

@DennisVeilleux-ll8im 11 ай бұрын

Could this bike hold 420 lbs?

@ryanmartin9400 Жыл бұрын

I don’t know what to do my desler has the 8 for $500 off or he said he can do no tax on the 9

@mydearriley Жыл бұрын

No hub sound?

@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын

The hub does make a sound

@TheDiablosix6six 2 жыл бұрын

The Orbea Laufey H10 is better value for money with a better spec and almost the same geo!! You could even go for the H-LTD which comes with a fox performance and still have change left over!!

@edwardbntz8825 Жыл бұрын

Not a chance orbea comes with a lower end group set and suspension, and is over 2k

@TheDiablosix6six Жыл бұрын

@@edwardbntz8825 The H-LTD model cost €2300. Has fox performance fork, slx/xt drive train, race face components and the frame looks a whole lot better!! The Roscoe 8 cost €2500. Has a rockshox 35 gold, nx/gx drive train, bontrager components. Also to get the high end Roscoe 9 it cost €300 more and still only comes with a fox rhythm fork!! I do like the trek, I have a fuel ex 9.8, but when it comes to the Roscoe, it's just too expensive compared to others out there!!

@mseekles1972 Жыл бұрын

@@TheDiablosix6six I bet you someone can find a bike that’s better value for money then a fuel ex 9.8 ;-) I don’t care that much about other bikes, there will always be a “better” one, I think they pretty much nailed it with the 2022 Roscoe

@ezraestrada4992 Жыл бұрын

Can we put 160mm fork on Roscoe?

@theGiver3 Жыл бұрын

Why would you? Just asking to destroy your rear wheel with a beefier fork

@ezraestrada4992 Жыл бұрын

@@theGiver3 Actually I did return the bike, looking for a longer fork travel.

@ezraestrada4992 Жыл бұрын

@@theGiver3 I did return the bike actually, I'll just get a 170mm for travel.

@torfossberg1137 Жыл бұрын

Great review, but you can get much much better for the price

@TheMurdoch Жыл бұрын

like?

@torfossberg1137 Жыл бұрын

@@TheMurdoch nukeproof scout, ns eccentric, any ragley bike, on one hello dave/big dog. The list goes on

@TheMurdoch Жыл бұрын

@@torfossberg1137 thanks, looking at picking up something new but so many options. Want something I can grow into

@torfossberg1137 Жыл бұрын

@@TheMurdoch hardcore hardtails are a great choice, I bought an ns eccentric second hand about half a year ago and its been amazing!

@Upliftyourbrothers Жыл бұрын

I got a new 22’ Scott scale 970 for $999 last weekend.

@saltifish Жыл бұрын

I test rode the trek roscoe 8 and it didn't inspire me, it felt cheap. I went with the giant fathom, I prefer the geometry of the fathom. I will say one thing though, the trek has a threaded bb while the giant only has press fit. Test ride them, if you can given the lack of stock, before you buy. The giant is a fair bit cheaper than the trek.

@richarde1355 Жыл бұрын

Which Fathom did you get, the 1 or 2? How you liking it so far? The Fathom has offered a lot of value for the money for many years and seems, to me, to be a bike model that is often overlooked.

@saltifish Жыл бұрын

I couldn't get the fathom 2 and I was lucky to get the 1. You just have to take what they are possibly getting in on order. It's a very nice bike, I got an XL and it feels perfect for me.

@Barkything 2 жыл бұрын

Gary Fisher Roscoe 😄

@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын

Gary Fisher never had a Roscoe, this bike came out after the brand was dissolved. Gary Fisher also is no longer a Trek ambassador anymore too.

@Barkything 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguyyes for sure, I owned one back in 2009. It was a full suspension. Trek re-used the name Roscoe for their rowdy hardtail several years later.

@Manwichman 2 жыл бұрын

No way, sharp bike but I'd take a fathom for way way less...I think it's less anyways

@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын

Fathom is a deal that's for sure

@Headlessthirst Жыл бұрын

Less.... but... the 35 fork is only a so/so piece leaving room for wanting

@MUTP-zq1oc 2 жыл бұрын

Geo is like an On*one scandal.

@BlackMan614 Жыл бұрын

140mm front suspension and no more QR? Interesting. I test rode a Roscoe when they first came out. Did not like the handling. Chose an X-Cal instead and upgraded to 1x and dropper post to match Roscoe component wise. My X-Cal last 2 years before I replaced it with a ProCal 9.6 which according to this, at the time was only $300 more than the Roscoe?!? And it has a carbon frame? Yikes.

@fciz2023 Жыл бұрын

Yeah but the procal is a xc geometry based bike . Most people now in days are searching for bikes with modern geometry and in general bikes increase around 150-200 every year for the same model sadly

@BlackMan614 Жыл бұрын

@@fciz2023 I was actually comparing the X-Cal to the Roscoe. Same model year... same exact frame and yet the Roscoe still didn't feel "right". It sure has turned into a nice bike, now though.

@bryanmiller5692 Жыл бұрын

@@BlackMan614 x cal is a different bike. It's an xc bike made more for speed.

@BlackMan614 Жыл бұрын

@@bryanmiller5692 Yes, I know. Moron.

@michaelhoward6752 Жыл бұрын

So what’ll bike manufacturers come up with in two years for next generation and a bump to 15k.

@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын

There are plenty of 15k bikes today. Thank God they make more affordable ones like this one.

@janeblogs324 Жыл бұрын

Abs, electric shocks and gears

@vindogg80 Жыл бұрын

To be clear the Roscoe was perfect in its original incarnation as a 26" full suspension all mountain bike under the fisher brand. So good in fact I just retired it last season after 10 seasons of use and abuse. In all seriousness, this bike is great I just hate that they recycled the name 😑

@chaotictattoo Жыл бұрын

I love hard tail bikes but I am more of a 100-120mm guy for my front shock because am I more of a cross country rider. That being said I was looking at these not too long ago and they are some really nice bikes and great components

@dennisfloyd8514 Жыл бұрын

That’s my bike. But in a M/L

@janeblogs324 Жыл бұрын

Massive hole in the bottom bracket, no chain stay or seat stay bridges. The rear end flexes so much that the tyres touch the chain stays under power. Once you have untrued rims or bigger tyres you can't even move. I own 1 and I recommend buying something else.

@vwr32jeep Жыл бұрын

I’m glad someone is giving some honest feedback. Thx.

@x3nRLx3 Жыл бұрын

For that price I'd rather buy a Orbea Laufey H-LTD

@MrGrenadeMcBoom Жыл бұрын

Looks like a Stache but without the plus tires. So... not as fun.

@lukewignall9947 Жыл бұрын

Specialized fuse is better

@velomaniaromania Жыл бұрын

They did all this but parts on this bike compare with price are way to entry level -))) entry - medium lvl fork ... entry level cassete...nx sram is the entry level from sram -)) you just pay the name and not the parts

@thesilversender 2 жыл бұрын

I wish they would have gone steeper on the seat tube. 73.1 is not steep by modern standards. It should have been at least 75. Otherwise looks fun and playful.

@marcdemichele2689 2 жыл бұрын

With the extended reach "modern geometry" is headed I think a super steep seat tube angle would make this bike feel a bit unbalanced. There are always give and takes with bike geometry. The short chainstays allow the seat tube angle to remain in the 73-75 degree angle and still keep the bike planted in climbs as well as descents. If the chainstays were longer the ST angle would be steeper. The store I work at sells these and the folks that have bought this bike seem to really dig it. I wish it were a bit lighter, but these days a stock rig at under 30lbs is considered acceptable.

@thesilversender Жыл бұрын

@@radicalturkey a steeper seat angle makes a world of difference when you are climbing a long steep hill. You can stay in the seat and keep your weight centered for better traction on both wheels.

@mseekles1972 Жыл бұрын

It will be more effectively once you’re sitting on the bike and your fork is sagging

@thesilversender Жыл бұрын

@@mseekles1972 that will lean you forward more but it wont get you closer to the bars. Looking further down in the comments someone wrote that the real effective seat angle is actually 75. This is much closer to the modern geo that we have been seeing lately but still not especially steep. The current trend is 77-78. I am not sure if the 77-78 is better as I have not ridden anything greater than 76 but I know that 73 is way too slack for the longer reach of these newer bikes.

@mseekles1972 Жыл бұрын

@@thesilversender that was exactly my point, in reality the bike has a much steeper seat tube angle when you’re riding it, because it’s a hardtail, which will benefit the climbing/peddling efficiency. In comparison, It’s slacker then a slash or top fuel but those are fullsus bikes bit it’s steeper then a supercaliber / x caliber. If you find the bike to long, and you’re to far of the bars then I would look at another size / reach number, they have a size ML which pretty much fits me perfectly.

@justinbogart278 Жыл бұрын

$2400 with a 35 fork? yeah, I don't think so. I understand they have to keep their massive marketing team fed but you could get a better Vitus for like $1900.

@ttom2460 Жыл бұрын

Which bikes would you recommend then?

@justinbogart278 Жыл бұрын

@@ttom2460 so I've never ridden their frames but the vitus sentier VR seems like the best deal on the market for an entry level bike that doesn't really need any upgrades. That z2 fork kills the competition. Recon or lesser won't perform at high speeds. (Source: riding fast trails on a recon)

@abstraddic0442 Жыл бұрын

Priced a little rich.🙄

@heinrichkleist3473 Жыл бұрын

Hard tails are the way to go, and can ride the widest array of terrain - including Whistler Bike Park. Gravel bikes are a fad.

@onlysends696 Жыл бұрын

NX cassette, NX shifter, steel chain ring, and fork are all garbage. Get a GX cassette, xo1 shifter, and at least a pike select and that’ll make the rig a lot nicer.

@nipahaus6206 Жыл бұрын

Sadly trek roscoe 2022 is only a promotion only you can’t buy

@Durwood71 7 ай бұрын

Not quite perfect. It still has quick release and a straight head tube.

@gregorywelch4620 Жыл бұрын

The Stache was a better bike than this, shouldn't have been discontinued

@marcstolk6682 Жыл бұрын

11-50 range in that price tag - sorry but that's a rip off. The Roscoe 7 has the 10-51 Deore. The difference betwen the RL Recon and 35 is minimal for the price difference. The R8 is NOT worth the money for the spec. Don't get me wrong, its a great bike.

@cezarh5473 Жыл бұрын

right, these bikes are too expensive for what they have to offer, if i could compare the new roscoes to my 2020-2021 kona big honzo, got the same rl recon fork, xt rd with xtr shifter and nx/gx rest, mt520 brakes for right under 1300 dollars

@marcstolk6682 Жыл бұрын

@@cezarh5473 no contest!

@matjj676 Жыл бұрын

I'm trying to decide between the 7 and 8 (or possibly a different brand altogether). Any advice? Trek has a sale on now...Thanks.

@karlstine2065 Жыл бұрын

Leave it to Trek to make a mediocre bike expensive.

@theferociousmuncher1771 Жыл бұрын

Its immensly overpriced

@marksandoval5361 2 жыл бұрын

73* is not a steep seattube angle. 76* degrees would be a steep seattube which is what this bike needs to have modern geometry. As is, it's just mediocre. Does Trek pay James to make these videos? It's a classic sales technique to oversell the weak feature which is the 73* seatube angle.

@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын

Trek does not pay me, nor have they ever paid me. Likely they don't know I exist

@marksandoval5361 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy I was "poking the bear" because I sensed that something wasn't right. So went to the Roscoe geo chart. The effective seattube angle is 75* while the actual seatube angle is 73*. When talking about geometry, it's the effective STA that matters and 75* makes more sense. However, by modern geometry standards, even 75* STA is not particularly steep. A typical modern trailbike generally has a 76-78* STA.

@ivostarmans1199 11 ай бұрын

Canyon stoic 4 better components and much cheaper

@Jacob99174 2 жыл бұрын

You keep saying 2023, same in the other video. You’re reviewing 2022 bikes, Dogg

@Jamesthebikeguy 2 жыл бұрын

This is a 2023. You can verify that by checking it on Trek's website: www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/roscoe/roscoe-8/p/35117/?colorCode=blue

@sjb1786 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jamesthebikeguy 2022 is identical its all a bit odd

@andreasm2882 Жыл бұрын

@@sjb1786 yes, the 22 and 23 Roscoe 7, 8 and 9 have no changes. Basically what has happened Trek is just now getting clients their 22 bikes just now in the past month. I ordered mine last year and I was supposed to see it in January and I finally just got it 6 weeks ago due to all the Shipping delays. They have such a back log of bikes and people that have canceled their orders Trek basically made no changes. My Trek dealer can't seem to get bikes in quick enough . I originally tried to order a 22 Roscoe 7 and that was due to arrive in November lol.

@sjb1786 Жыл бұрын

@@andreasm2882 makes sense. We had 1 shop with 22 and one woth 23s both on special for same price. Bought the 22 as it was in stock and shop with the 23 was not local. Now dont feel like i bought old stock cheers

@davegee124 Жыл бұрын

overpriced and under specced...many bikes out there better value for money than this and just because next years bike is the same spec as the 22 model doesnt make it a 23 spec better lol...

@Jamesthebikeguy Жыл бұрын

This is an entirely different bike than the one that came before it. The prior generation is a totally different frame, different suspension, travel different wheel sizes all of that.