I am so sorry this happened to you man.. :(

I hate when that happens

How heavy of a rock? Asking for a friend

😂

Back is still small tho 😔

Western women are BEYOND delusional

While 90% of them look like mama june pre-gastric bypass...😁

And elite genetics

@@EroticOnion23 but it's so hard for women to look good! Didn't you hear? They have to like, put makeup on and stuff. That's difficult. I guess?

Should see there dating requirements it’s on par

I was in the gym a couple weeks ago and there was some girl and her young buck of a brother working out. Young lad was trying to teach her some dumbbell work, to which she said, "I don't want to get all muscley". I kept quiet, but thought, "Don't worry... you won't." No one gets muscles on accident.

literally this

​@@gonzo5648 lol this. They really think that the moment they touch a dumbbell they magically get transformed into the Hulk.

Yea doing 20 pounds on heavy compound lifts like if they go any higher they'll look like she hulk. It's comical.

@@tomc6217 yeah man, I'm a guy so I gotta be real careful of that stuff as well. I accidentally lifted something moderately heavy one time, and my biceps exploded from my shirt because of all of the spontaneous muscle that I built.

1 single calf raise

@@hawgslam41

Mostly because it is 2024 and skinny jeans have not been in, since 2016... Kidding, but you get the point.

@@hawgslam4 This is why I will NEVER do a calf raise. fuck that I like my skinny jeans skinnying

@@UrsusHaitch i sit in my chair 24/7 because i fear byproduct calf hypertrophy from walking. Ill enjoy my skinny jeans in my leather chair why thank you.

It's easy to maintain once you get it 💪🏻💪🏻

You guys don't know anything! I achieved my perfect physique by just carrying grocery bags and getting out of bed slightly faster than usual after only 6 months!

Advice from a goon (me)... Some people natural like me but life tends to even the scale. Never taken gear but never really happy. That physique is achievable for years without gear but not without a consequence

Its liver king on his anonymous account

And lighting...

No body fat your just morbidly obese then =P

thats why they tell young teens to not workout, i trained when i was 12 and when i became 13 people thought my father was my son

@@dennydanschin2001 im at -7% bodyfat currently

If you actually put in the work, you would be bigger, lazy

Hell yeah dawg 💪🏼

Lmfaooooooooooooooo

Yeah, I loved going to the gym, but then I gained 200 pounds of lean muscle mass and I didn't fit through my front door anymore. Had to stop working out so that I could enter my home again. Pity.

Man's got that Frieza level potential

I don’t believe you

Slow down bro..eat a few big Macs.. Stop all cardio! Lol

Yeah and they say it’s cause they’re “doing what it takes” 😂

Yup. I was very shocked when I had only put on around 20 lbs of lean tissue in 2ish years going ham in the gym naturally when I’d heard of guys putting on 50 lbs in under a years.

Its harmful to say it if kids are people who have no experience are hearing it, but the reason they do so in such an off the collar way is because they know damn well they won't be doing it naturally and its unlikely they care if all the stuff its going to take is bad for the actors. Thats Hollywood for you though.

In the last 6 months I’ve gone from 145 to 185lbs naturally working out 5 days a week and just adding one extra meal and supplemental protein, so it is possible

Ya that stuff broke my mind when I was 16. I'm 28 and it still has an effect.

So what you're saying is he got laid after doing roids. YOLO!

Fuck, that's rough.

My dad knew a guy who died just the same from steroid abuse cos heart failure

Pretty common. Alot of people can't break that wrong mindset of "if x amount gives me x results then more amount will give me more results". No. Some people just respond better to gear than others.

That sucks man poor guy and his lil girl.

I am pretty sure most of us of I thought '' I don't want to get too big,'' as we started lifting. And as time passed, we learned, that muscles doesn't grow, that fast and it's necessary to implicate so many methods, just to see get ''little big.''

The 9 ancestral traits is popular lol 😂

Spot on

Lifting since new years, arms gained an inch In little over two months. You’re doing something wrong

@@buttered__toast_2899 No I'm not. I'm training regularly, increasing my muscle mass and there are noticeable changes in my physique. What part of my comment did you think it was worth your while to argue against?

Great take.

And big movies kinda have specialists on lighting

When you do a pushup now, it's more that you push the Earth down... 🤣

@@calebfuller4713 lmao and Derek holds up the earth like atlas with his delts.

I stumbled once... but didn't get back up. Instead I did 15 sets of 500 situps until I could summon a force field and fly home

Falls down, testosterone takes over, balance stat boost... F@#$🤬🤬🤬

​@@calebfuller4713hmm or like benching the earth

Hollywood brainwashing at its peak

His father just pushed hard while doing his mom

the fact that he's hredded at 260 pounds too lol

I myself used to believe that bullshit. It's only after someone pointed out in the KZfaq comment section how Rock is far more shredded now compared to when he was younger then it hit me.

I really hope you dumped this chick

Keep up the good work. Good thing is, in real life you don't need to look like him to be attractive and confident. Looking like that only gets you so far in life, keep going ✊🏾

Congrats man, if they tell you to try harder to get fit even though you are putting a lot of effort and seeing progress, just tell them to do it too if they are less in shape than you🙂

What does "watching my eating" mean? Are you actually keeping track of the macro nutrients you're consuming? Are you meeting you macro nutrient targets every day (or at least 90% of the time)? I'm not using any gear and I see desirable improvements on a weekly basis by "simply" putting in the effort of meal planning. Fast body transformations are completely within the realm of possibility without using gear. Most people just don't want to track every meal/snack they consume. Keep up the good work!

@@lamspam its absolutely possible but if you make too big of a change you might revert back, diet should be done in baby steps for most people, learning recipes over time also takes time

Keep up the good work!

I don't advise taking gear if you don't need. But if you are curious to see just how ridiculously powerful steroids are. Have someone at your gym get you 250mg of test a week and a bottle of clenbuterol (this is fairly safe for your health as long as you don't take it for too long). This is super low dose by modern standards. Don't change anything else and just keep doing what you were doing before the gear, check the insane progress you will make within 30 days.

@@zemm9003 Yeah super high pogres.. But what if u are on you peak alredy or at lest trained.. Thad fucking shit makes life chances.. Not to compare to averge joe who did.t lift.

@@zemm9003 This is so tempting 😞. In the end its a crutch for a bad lifestyle tho. I could probably up my test quit a bit if I took care of some issue

@@carlpanzram7081 problem is drug addiction. ALL steroid users are drug addicts (there are no exceptions). I know this because I became one myself after I started using. Nobody will tell you that before your first cycle though. You 100% will become a drug addict if you start taking steroids, I knew this before starting and I was ok with it, but a lot of people do not know about this.

@@carlpanzram7081 250mg of test is considered by some a low dose and even therapeutic. It’s a high test replacement therapy dose but it is in the range. If you have built your body before hand and have just stopped your routine and lost your mass, it is significantly easier to get it back than it is to build it originally. Muscle memory is more effective that roids, for a time.

Beautifully worded Allen! Thank you for the kind response

Facts

I was talking about working out with guys I work with and they brought up the rock. When I said he’s obviously on steroids they were almost offended. Unless ppl do the research they believe what they read in mens fitness and what these ppl say on talk shows.

👊🏼

So true. I remember telling my friends and co workers how it took to actually build muscle. They were surprised because how long it takes and idk how many people gave up because they don’t really see the differences in their body after working out for a month

You forgot Amazing god like genetics

With that combination, we could make Dany Devito a greek god. 😎

@@desertdesert8162 Hemsworths genetics are decent muscle wise, he's actually much smaller naturally in regards to how much weight his body carries on his frame. Roids massively distort a persons average once they've been on them for long periods of time and many of the body adaptations become permanent. I've been around so many bodybuilders that I thought were genetically gifted, who after health issues stopped gear use 100% and they literally deflated in a rapid fashion over the next year despite training consistently. Guys going from a very lean 210lbs at like 5ft10 and dropping to 185lb in very short order and looking much softer.

@@theperfectbeing Good post. People really undervalue how much steroids do.

Any personal trainer in the multiverse

It’s just not in the cards for you to look like Hemsworth, purely from aesthetics point of view. He’s super thick in the right places, that’s why it looks impressive, but his legs and back aren’t that good. 95 kg is not bad at all if you were sub 12% bf. Anything above that and you’d look like an average guy if you’re not gifted with a complimentary bone structure and muscle insertions. Chris Evans is barely 190lbs / 86 kg in his CA movies but his chest and biceps are great and the fact that he’s naturally lean gives him a great look, however in terms of numbers he’s not impressive at all. His aesthetics are.

@@ventsislavstefanov9590 "naturally lean" LMAO

@@Bramble20322 You haven’t seen people who’ve been skinny with a six pack their entire lives? The moment you put some muscle on a guy like that he’d look somewhat impressive.

​@@ventsislavstefanov9590lol 95kg at 188 is really quite big. Our perceptions are warped from surroundings

Hahahaha man, training 7 days a week would give me rhabdo

You can easily train 7 days a week you just have to train with less intensity each workout. A different training style that can be effective.

@@TheOldBeef Well even with that it is not sustainable for long time ( i.e. 6 months) as i.e. doing cardio and weight lifting it is suggested to have at least 8 hours difference but even then there is a performance issue for the second one. Also even the high end athletes have at least one day rest for physiological and psychological reasons

@@TheOldBeef lower intensity training gives ZERO results to the un genetically gifted. ZERO.

@@darrendigiacomo6889 sucks to suck

couldnt said in better words :)

Except I'm at work at 4pm so 6pm would be best lol Not that it stops me from watching the videos, gotta love working from home... But when I have to keep pausing every minute or so to take another call it gets pretty annoying and I tend to lose track of what the subject is

This is literally the best comment.

I totally agree

Emoji fucking discombobulated laughing face times 4

Okay this comment is on point.👌🏾

Nice explanation

A+

That's actually pretty good

Lmao

In Europe everyone is either skinny of pot bellied

America has a huge (no pun intended) obesity problem. BS like body positivity and fat acceptance are making it worse.

Totally agree. I live in SW Florida. I’m 49, 5’9” 175 - muscular/fit, but wouldn’t consider myself shredded. I look around and it’s like people have become caricatures of humans. Sickly, fat, weak. I don’t mind though. Had a great time with a 23 year old woman last Thursday. She said she had thought I was in my mid 30s. This is how bad it’s gotten. People don’t even know what they should look like at different ages.

@@johnlibonati7807agreed. I’m 32 and people think I’m in my early twenties. Standards have gotten so low it’s unbelievable.

This is mostly an issue with the US. Unfortunately, the US is a country of extremes. It has a lot of bodybuilders and athletes but the majority of the population is still obese or overweight. I'd have to say it mostly has to do with car centric infrastructure. People in the US almost always travel by car and, especially in the suburbs, you often find lots of fast food joints next to wide roads with lots of parking and drive-thrus. This means people exercise less, socialise less and eat horribly. This is mainly why this isn't a problem in most European countries since European culture largely revolves around local foods instead of chain brands as well as having a nice, walkable atmosphere. Europeans often have what's called a third place, a cozy place where they can hang out. The reality is suburban life in the US is generally very depressing and it's the root cause of most health issues in the country. Walking long distances next to big houses that all look the same with no life just isn't fun, so most people choose to drive. It also doesn't give you any incentive to stay fit because you aren't seeing anybody

Sucks getting sick push thru bro

Ik u see the pump u want it to be your normal size u eventually get to that point and see your pump again the cycle continues lol its like an addiction

You’re gonna be chasing your pump forever my g. As you gradually become bigger, your pump will consequently also become bigger

@@scars5505 yeah but its fun to see what basically you in the future will be like

I know it!

He's like older brother everybody needs

I been following Derick all year and I’m feeling great everything I learned back in the day I threw it out and re learned the science

All we had was athleanx and that dude drank the cum protein shake🤮😔 forgot his name

Same. I had no idea so many fitness people were taking roids and claiming they weren’t, and then asking the public if we would like to buy their products lol.

The female body standard is achieved pretty much by not eating like a hippo. Bonus points for a little exercise. The male body standard is contradictory extremities.

I mean it goes both ways so if this is your stance then you should be totally fine with the «all men should look like this» statements in the video.

@@steelmongoose4956 Not true, female body ideal is big rack and big ass with lean physique overall. And if a girl didn't win a genetic lottery she will lose fat everywhere when losing weight, which means small rack too. Standards created by media are impossible for 99.999% of population even with using all tools available.

@@steelmongoose4956 Yeah large amount of lean mass in both upper and lower body + maintaining it until old age is just extremely hard.

@@Jasputt Incorrect, being thin requires doing less of something and nothing else if you do it right(regular exercise is ideal and if you wanna get picky then a boob job may be in order too). Looking like the "standard" shown here for men requires hormonal alteration and regular hard work and strict adherance to diet to both attain and maintain. Once you're thing you just dont eat like a pig and if you want a boob job its gonna costs you much less $ and time than all the supplements and extra food required for a man to look like this. Also to add, men cant just get a muscle job. If both men and women adhered to similar exercise protocol with intent to be a better looking healthier person and no aartificial enhancement. Then women are far more likely to achieve the typically desired thin female look compared to men achieving the obviously sauced look lol. Not to metnion fat loss is much much faster than the rate muscle can build.

That's the thing, the vocal minority who are trying to push unrealistic expectations are just that: vocal. Most people are happy to see an "average" healthy looking person. Those people aren't shouting it all over social media. This is what ends up causing skewed views on these subjects. If a man doesn't fit the criteria for the very small group that is being unrealistic because they're not tall, making enough money, don't have a big dick, or aren't shredded, then they fit that "bad" rubric, and that's what sticks out in people's minds sadly.

As someone in sales, it's like they have the expectation that if a girl doesn't buy their product simply upon looking at them then they aren't good enough Most guys can't talk at all

The sub is basically the parallel of the incel sub

The whole “women being attracted to dad bods” thing shouldn’t be up for debate. Women aren’t actually aroused by dad bods. They just say the are because they don’t want to get heartbroken by the ripped guy that could replace them in a New York minute. On top of that they could want leverage over you because they know women aren’t lining up at your door if you got a dad bod🤷‍♂️. Also when women say they’re into “dad bods” they’re referring to a bear mode physique. Not a skinny fat barbecue dad beer belly physique. Case closed.

@@playingwithballsack1533 Straight HEAT🔥🔥🔥

@@DoggyDisk the female “red pill” society

@@playingwithballsack1533 “bear mode physique” *crying laughing face times five*

The part I hated as a natty was that my strenght would fall off a cliff once I dropped below 10% bodyfat and if I pushed it too hard my sex drive would disappear along with it.

@@theperfectbeing I've never been anywhere near that low, but it wouldn't surprise me. Our bodies aren't really designed to be that lean, and I don't think you need to be if all you want is to look good.

@@incurableromantic4006 Honestly I just loved the training and was trying to do intensive training simply for the challenge AND work a rough job at the same time. You definitely feel the impact of foods differently when youre doing like 60hrs of activity a week (including gym time). You try any of that "im eating super clean" shit and you're going to end up sick feeling, over trained and soon to be injured. That's why when you watch strongman training where they are 100% focused on performance and simply surviving the training blocks, they add things like cheese cake and burgers on heavy stone training days. If you aren't have trouble making weight in a competitive sport and you intentionally cut yourself short on calories just to look better, well you're in for a bad time Aesthetic training to me is honestly kind of a joke if you don't have performance to go with it.

Speak for yourself, everyone is different. For example my entire life I never went above 10% bf and was just always lean. When I started eating more and working out, I gained muscle and my fat went down to about 6%. What's attainable and maintainable for one may not be for another

@@albuquerquehotspot7835 he said most of us not all of us

Memes and emojis are wonderful tools for communication.

Eat clen, tren hard anavar give up

And genetics. And be rich to spend it all and have no social life and a sad sad diet

damn. if u guys actully believe u need all that to have some muscles and a six pack then i wonder what you guys think u need to to look like a mr Olympia

@@samsom4122 Yeah, most guys also have unrealistic ideas on what it takes to get a decent physique. Like anyone with vaguely visible abs and a bit of muscle MUST be using steroids, training 3 hours a day, etc, etc. It's sad BS on the opposite end of the spectrum to "just pick up heavy stuff and put it down". Honestly, Hemsworth is not THAT massive or ripped - people were achieving similar physiques back 80-100 years ago before steroids or even modern training methods were developed. Just look at Eugene Sandow, George Hackenschmidt, Otto Arco, Steve Reeves, etc. That said, it IS hard work, you do need to do SOME research into modern training methods, you do need to stick to a reasonable diet, and yes, a lot is in getting a pump, good lighting, knowing how to flex and pose, etc.

@@calebfuller4713 Yep. These modern mushy guys simply have too lives that are too easy. Old school hard workers like Railroad guys or miners used to be really muscled and lean. Look at the old school strongmen physicalculturist.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oldtime-strongman-diets-top.jpg These women are actually CORRECT to a degree. Modern Millennial and Gen Z men eat too much, and don't work hard enough to build bodies like their 19th century ancestors, hence, the term "mushy". Old time Railroad workers hips.hearstapps.com/ghk.h-cdn.co/assets/17/29/gandy-dancer-railroad-worker.jpg?crop=1xw:1.0xh;center,top&resize=768:*, I bet with their shirts off they didn't have mushy "dad bods".

You've made a really good point 👌 people rarely recognise the milestones that others reach, or, equally importantly, the journey it took to get there. Positive recognition is important (that's why people seek validation), we seem to forget that it's just as important to validate our own efforts and progress. ... and just in case no-one told you today and you didnt tell yourself: you're doing a good job, even though it's tough, and you should be proud, keep going, bruh 🙌

@@bellewhite3764 thank you, I really appreciate that. Some days are easier than others but so long I'm moving forward that's what matters. Thanks again mate 👍🏻

@@JN-oz8db you're welcome 🙃 and you've adopted a great attitude to moving forward, any progress is still progress, and that's awesome 👌 I tend to think the hard days are the ones that are the worst but they mean the most on the journey. Keep working on you, you're worth it, and you're doing great 👍

This is my favorite part of the channel, this dude is like Bruce Banner and Hulk at the same time, Professor Hulk ass mf lol.

@@DaDualityofMan lmaoooo😂😂 Derek is such a bro while simultaneously talking like a mad scientist

The duality of man

@@DaDualityofMan I laughed so loud at this I may have woken my neighbors 😅

His pre workout and post workout brain 😂

My wife is in her early twenties, can maintain an hourglass figure with ease. Could eat whatever she wants all she needs to do is workout. Just had a baby and bounced back easy and lost all the weight within weeks by working out. Meanwhile, if I eat one too many cheat meals I will get a dad bod lol. I have to focus a lot to bulk as a natty Its a joke. Women are just expected to be skinny, which if in your 20s its not difficult. Meanwhile like you said men are compared to juicers.

Then they complain that female beauty standards are impossible to achieve lmao

They want Trevor Signorino physique

Exactly, they just have to eat less (generally). We have to spend several days a week in the gym, sleep a lot, eat PERFECTLY correct amounts of everything, constantly push ourselves with more weights and take potentially deadly drugs injected into our bodies yet we have it easy, lol.

@@someguy403 The only thing they have to do is starve themselves/

Proof that women live life on easy mode.

Bro this has nothing to do with anything, but I just got done rewatching AOT to catch up on everything literally just a minute ago. After that I came on KZfaq, clicked on this video in my recommended, and saw your username. Just a funny coincidence.

@@sanguis7897 It’s not a coincidence. He’s watching you…

@@JoeyCentral they confuse fat with watery look. we gotta carry a parasite aka a fetus, our muscles can't and shouldn't be rigid otherwise we would squeeze the fetus lol. but that doesn't mean fat. and women, natty, will put more effort to have a muscular look and would still not be like a men cuz testosterone is very low. those girls that say some to what u said, they are fat or their mothers are obese and has body dysmorphophobia cuz they always are telling them to not be fat, and they have an excuse cuz they give birth to them (their mothers telling them that) and then social media. but they are ignorant..cuz those actors look are usually chemicals or a rare one with superior genes

@@JoeyCentral These females living on recruit difficulty

I work as a cashier part time. standing up for hours at a time really does kill your calories and makes gaining much harder. I imagine those who work at Amazon or fedex have it much harder.

@@lefthanded5473 I thought standing only burns like 3 more calories an hour than sitting

@Antares my girlfriend does not exist

They're insane. To them, Alexander the Great would just be an average guy

L girlfriend for saying that

Rest bro

Cut to 2x a week, 10 sets per muscle per week (5 sets each workout). If it's not working why do you keep doing the same thing?

dunno about skinny fat people who live in tribe in deserts area are exteremly skinny with almost no fat and they are tall and have thinner body they are basicily running sticks carrying sticks and most of their muscles in their legs which is understandable considering they are running every day to hunt animals

sadly that's not a universal change and in many societies today, women body-shaming is still pretty much thriving. ie on Chinese social media, an overweight girl is called tank, pig (me personally was called a hippo), while overweight men posting themselves are generally not criticised, and sometimes comforted and encouraged.

Welcome to the feminine narrative. Check out The Rational Male for a red pill.

@@nopda4095 It depends on the tribe and how much they dominated agriculture. There are hunter tribes in Africa that only eat the food that they hunt, while a lot of "Amerindians" harvested a good amount of the food they ate. Chances are, unless you have to move a lot for food, you probably won't. Unless instagram exists 😂

@@NegraLi34 yeah talking about africa i dont think they can farm on their land

Did you know all you have to do is take Test, Tren and Clen, and you’ll look like Ronnie Coleman in 6 months

@@A_Turner Don't forget the chicken, broccoli and rice.

@@A_Turner nah bro you just have to tren hard, test your limits and eat clen

@@mikonson4091 damn bro, I know I suggested some PEDs but that is the holy anabolic trinity there, the most extreme PED known to man when you combine those three hardcore substances

@@xqcpoggers6932 thats my pct from my real cycle

They’re open, they just speak in _code_ 🐔 🍚 🥦

@@activatekruger446 Also, say that you "gain 60 lbs of muscle in 3 months". _Definitely_ achievable with that diet 🤣

I’m pretty sure actors aren’t allowed to admit it, or else they would’ve by now

Why would they do that in a country that would put them in prison for it? That's wetarded.

@@Graciehunter32 exactly, they sign papers that could be used against them

Let them sit and argue, as evil as it sounds, i like seeing people like this fail. Agree with them and let them get fat.DO NOT ARGUE.

Most women also don't seem to have adequate protein intake. Meaning, they miss even the minimum threshold for _maintaining_ muscle, let alone building it. That's what I've noticed among my family and friends, anyway.

It is true 🤣 Estrogen causes much of female “fatness”. If there was a competition for women and men to gain fat, the women would win. If there was a competition for women and men to gain muscle, the men would win. Estrogen versus Testosterone is what it comes down to. Either way it takes hard work. I hope your journey is going successful regardless what people around you think.

I've heard that so many times in my life, and as Kyo Bear mentioned, yes part of it is true, but a lot of it (imo) is the stigma women have against weight training. Women benefit far more from weight training in general compared to men when it comes to losing weight and looking better.

@@The_Real_Frisbee True, but it takes long af. Just because women work off little testosterone, so little gains at a time until it real shows after months due to smaller body structure. 25 pounds of muscle on female looks like thor 🤣

I wouldn't say it's impossible but definitely out of reach for the majority of people.

it’s possible, you just don’t have what it takes, simply put.

True, he doesn't have access to PEDs, most likely!

I dont think that was the take away. I didn't finish the video but it is possible to look like prime Chris Hemsworth while remaining natural. He's an actor. He's not a bodybuilder that's been on gear many years through a professional lifting career. You Can Achievement Chris Hemsworth prime without roids. I personally know people who have. It takes a good understanding and knowledge of the body and high levels of discipline. Do not feed into the idea you're not capable of getting as big as you'd like naturally. Unless you want to be Ronnie Coleman big. I know plenty of people, myself included who are very built, large, and lean without the use of steroid compounds.

@@zenraloc the actual Chris Hemsworth has be juiced to the gills in order to look like Chris Hemsworth in his prime. Derrick essentially says as much in this video and refutes what you're saying.

Because anyone wants to look like you...

What apps/sites would you recommend for dieting?

Dude that’s literally it. Diet. I trained on and off for years and years I never really got anywhere until I finally ate the correct foods 90% of the time

Workout 10 hours a week and I promise you, you can eat whatever you want

No offense but , you're talking about shit, lifting weight is most important thing , almost every normal standart person with average attitude can handle the basic not extreme diet, lifting weight is more important because it's need way more discipline than diet

Yep, men are not allowed to be ugly.

Even when not being fat pretty much just requires you to lay off the cheetos, whereas being in the shape apparently required of men demands both dietary choices and endless hours of training (and a dose of "supplements").

Men can’t be short either, something they don’t control lol

It’s different women saying these things. Women are not a monolith, they can have different opinions, that is not hypocrisy

You can’t really put any stock in a woman’s comments on this topic. Just ignore. Their opinions change every week based on where they are in their menstrual cycle. There’s a reason why men in the old days thought women were a “mystery”. They aren’t a mystery. They are just all over the place.

Wow wow wow wow

You just need to work for it 24h a day, super easy! /s

Really? REALLY

Yes you just keep lifting and you’ll eventually look like Jay Cutler. Nothin to it but a do it. Oh yeah and you gotta eat big to get big. Just chicken broccoli and rice. Most people can’t handle the discipline that involves

@@DC-wo2yb Imagine the feeling of eating 4000 calories of just chicken rice and broccoli?

Steroids is the quick way but it will destroy your organs.

atleast they can change their weight. they have no problem putting downa man who is short, "length lacking"(if you know what I mean" or balding. all of which you can't change.

@@creeperkingdom3190 yeah the subreddit this originated from consists basically exclusively of female incels

Just people. Basic boys and girls the world over.

There's no irony. Just like women feel most of the pressure from other women, most men feel pressure from other men. There are the 1% extremes of any side but people love to single them out to justify their narrative that its the other side thats uniquely hypocritical/malevolent etc...

@@TheGreektrojan no we feel the pressure from women as women are the srexual selectors. it's what women want in men that men want to emulate were not always successful in this but it's what we try to do. women on they other hand are more interested in impressing eachother than a man especially nowadays which is why you'll put on endless stuff men hate but women love like long lashes and nails.

You should have the muscle to look like that with those numbers tbh, just slim down to 12% bodyfat

@@vilhelmkron7455 Yeah but to cut to 12% without stimulates like Ozempic can hit your gains very hard as a natty. Even guys like Scot Herman walk around at about 15% bodyfat. At my mass 18% is enough to show my 6 pack. I look good but not Chris good. Gear is not just to get huge, it’s to get huge while not losing major mass while cutting. A natty cutting almost to 10% is gonna lose a lot of gains. Not worth it.

@@maia3420 just diet slowly bro

U might lose abit but it would be worth it

for my case i will never ever try to do more cutting below 18% bodyfat, i will lose a significant amount of muscle, strength, looking tired all day just for a fucking 6 pack. espescially in rainy /winter season

CBum be like

Pleath Thtop

Okay, Mike Tython.

Physiologically impossible without drugs

That was just a dead giveaway that this shit was not natty. 20lbs in 6 months is beyond what the human body is capable of natty. With perfect programming and diet, you *may* be able to put on 20lbs in your first year of lifting, but it's not fucking easy.

Thumbs up because I thought you were big 🧢in but googled it and apparently the women here are as wide a storage cabinet 👏

It’s easy if you take steroids

The average waist size for men is 40.5 inches... everybody is fuckin fat lmao

Wtf, a 30 in waist is still too big for me sometimes. I'm genetically a stick thougg

@@ninjabobbob8090 it’s not.. most people are on gear and look terrible

They wont. Just take steroids and take the girls. Easier right?

I feel like it is true, seeing men in my gym lifting heavy (And seeing some very regularly in gym) with very natural body made me realize how many men online portraying massive muscle and super lean body are probably not natty. (And from my femake fitness groupchat, I feel like that's common sense among us.) It actually made me feel a lot better about myself, since these men work this hard and doesn't have crazy muscles my itty bitty muscle gain is justified.

@@Ummmmmmmm841 "are probably _NOT_ natty"? Are you sure that's what you meant, cause it doesn't make much sense to me.

@@exnihilonihilfit6316 Ummm why not? Cus some women (and men) see people using performance-enhancing stuff online but they don't claim to use it, so that's what many think what gym bro should look like, while most men working in the gym don't have that extreme body type. (for example, the rock?) Seeing male actors and social media influencers are like seeing female models and actors, most attain their body through extreme ways, some are genetics, and they get paid for that. And normal people don't. That's how unrealistic expectations do to u

@@Ummmmmmmm841 You didn't even understand what I was telling you...

i also noticed that, wen i was 55 kilos everything felt easy then i went to 75 and now my calves hurt on long walks but dc since calves gains brah 😤💪

@@yourfrenghost3028 I’m 200 pounds from 120 in 4 years time and yeah I would agree that it’s so hard to walk around at such a heavier weight

Similar for me, when I quit swimming I weighed 67 kg, now I weigh 89 kg and don't do almost any cardio. I did an ergometry back then at age 17, my bpm went from 49 at rest to 180 at maximum when I couldn't pedal anymore because of muscle failure; I did another one this year and went from 76 to 206, 26 years old now. Gladly most of the difference in weight is muscle. Edit: didn't mention my height, ~175cm.

@@robertmcgowanjr8105 gonna reach ur weight bro just wait 3 more years 😭😭😭

@@yourfrenghost3028 wait till you’re 200 plus you’re gonna be strong af but feel tired all the time from being so heavy lol

They weren’t eating enough chicken broccoli and rice is all

Haters will say you had bad form

Construction work is absolutely terrible for muscle growth, I did it for a while at 18 and I actually lost weight, muscle, because of how many calories you burn working and we only ate one meal in 12-14h of working in the blazing heat, it sucks... but hey, women have to deal with mansplaning and catcalling, the horror...

I’m 5’11 -155 I do construction. I constantly get asked why I’m not bigger because I do construction.. lmao .

@@bingbong6127 i used to think doing construction work would get you swole as shit cause your lifting all day but just like you, i actually lost muscle and size compared to when i worked security on my ass all day and then lifted 5x a week. you do get strength and endurance tho

I literally said this the other day. If you can make a woman laugh, you're already 60% of the way into her pants.

Yea when guys talk about working out and gaining weight they talk as if the only weight they put on is lean muscle lol.

Congrats dude. Mines 165 to break 200...195rn... hoping to see 196 finally this week. definitey not pure but still

I put 0-3-5 as my wallpaper one day and now i'm in a band bro

funny to see music theory guy here in gym bro comments

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Hello Mr former trainer I have a question. So I've started working out about 8 months ago (very hard and consistent). I started at about 78 kgs with roughly 15% body fat (I started pretty strong and athletic been working rough jobs before). Oh and I'm 1,82m tall (or 6 feet I think). Now I'm at 83 kgs with roughly 13% all natural. Fat numbers might not be accurate but I did get a good chunk leaner. Is that a good amount of muscle built in that time?

And my big lifts are a 190 kg deadlift, 120 kg bench and 140 kg squat is that good too?

I politely ask for sincere advice. Please help: I'm natty, skinny fat, youth is gone, not middle age, started training hard since a month, three days training then rest day in each time block. Fish, cheese, eggs, occasional meat diet. Legumes, greens. Living a lower middle class life economically. So nothing is organic here (estrogen mimicking micro plastic derivative in fish, estrogen type hormones in eggs, cheese very likely). Gut health good. Sleep good. How soon can I get into normal male shape - like Ryan Reynolds before he started saucing? I mean flat abdominal region and one that does not cause low sexual desire or arousal. Thank you in advance.

@@yorulaney8563First of all, I'm a former trainer who is 50 now. When I started training I gained 20 pounds of muscle in a year. Everyone thought I was on drugs because they had been working out a few years and did not look jacked. Turned out, I have great muscle genes. I had awesome calves and legs but never had to work them hard...My arms grew too fast and I had great abs. Other parts responded slower.😭😢 You probably have good genes and can change body comp pretty easily like I can. You probably have body parts that respond slower than others as well. Age is important too. My dad never trained and was ripped like Bruce Lee. It drove me crazy because his diet was awful. If he had trained he would have been a beast. I was just saying that most guys respond pretty slow if they are natural. I've known a few guys who were natural and looked amazing just doing calisthenics and basic weight training. Their diets were not good at all but they were the top 5% of guys. Go to the gym and watch how many people's bodies don't change that much despite training regularly. In my experience, it's genes and diet that determines most people's results. Im not talking about anabolics. I'll leave that to Derrick.💪

@@simplehealthyliving4681 well I'm not a trainer but since I'd say I made a decent physique in a short time I'll try to give my opinion here. Skinny fat to me usually means 2 things: fat belly and not enough shoulders/arms to balance that. Luckily you can tackle both of those. Eating healthy is good but the only thing that matters really (very dumbed down) is calories and protein. You wanna be in a caloric deficit so Google how much calories you need, track how many you eat and keep it about 500 under for a semi agressive cut. I'f you want it to go faster you can do a bigger one but wouldn't recommend it you'll build muscle even slower, it's unhealthy and draining and takes tons of willpower so stick roughly to the 500 rule. And do cardio, doesn't have to be running I go for a 1h walk everyday. Might be a bit much at the beginning so stick to 0,5h I guess. That will help you lose the fat (pro tip soda and juice adds up to a lot of calories so get diet pop or stick to water) And finally the training part. You obviously want to train your body equally but if you want a more 'manly' physique you should put extra effort on your shoulders, arms, chest and upper back. And to effectively build muscle eat about 1gramm of protein per pound of body weight. That's sometimes tough to pull off especially in a cut and for beginners so just make sure to try and eat alot of it. Creatine helps too but don't get too caught up in tons of supplements. And the most important thing: stick to it. It's a long road and as a natty it will take a while so don't rush to the finish goal but enjoy the process and think to yourself that you're constantly trying to better yourself. And if you manage to stay consistent you are already a beast. Keep going man 💪

Hahah yup 💪

I would assume most commenters on here would say you're not natty. It seems like anything more than a dad bod and you have to be on gear.

Dude you're so awesome how long have you trained I'm so impressed you should probably brag about your Monumental achievement in the comments. Really no one has ever trained for as long as you or been asked if they were on gear before... Dragonslayer😂 Gtfo dude

There was those 3 guys always talking about hormones and T3/T4, and someday i asked one of them if they do blood test, and the bigger guy like 95kgs not higher than 9% body fat said, "I don't do blood tests i'm natural i have 4% body fat", and inside i was hm okay but i didnt ask if you're on gear, i just asked what kind of blood test you do, but i just said ok and moved on. He just exposed himself lmao

@@BuffaloNickel9 You sound salty af. 10 years of consistent training is impressive.

Also First captain America came out in 2011 filmed in 2010 Endgame came out 2019 he also had other roles and might not have wanted to walk around like with the effort it took

@@emmanuelmontperous3537 Very true, from what I heard is that Evans really doesnt enjoy weight training, so he was never going to stay at that size like he was in the first cap movie. For me his baseline physique is what I've aimed for in my own training. The guy has a great physique when he isnt training for a role.

@@gladiatorscoops4907 Well said and alot them hate weight training Jason Momoa hates it he prefers rock climbing .....

The most attainable for the majority of people is daredevil’s physique

trevor signorino

Mine too

You likey yes?

Obviously the fitter you are the better, but the standards for not being repulsive to the opposite sex (atleast physique wise) isnt that high. The average woman doesnt expect you to look like a bodybuilder and the average man doesnt expect a girlfriend whos a swimsuit model. For girls its basically just dont be fat or anorexic. And for guys its the same but add some muscle in there and your golden. The amount of crap i see on the internet of "oh a man/woman needs to be all these things or they will die alone". Sometimes you walk down the street and you see a couple and think "How the hell did he/she manage to pull him/her?" then you realise most people arent super shallow

4 to 6 days sounds like a lot you might overtrain

@@SebiBubble depends on intensity, only need to do about 40mins workout but i go full high intensity ( have 20secs rest) and i need to rest that particular muscle group longer tbh (dont have as much time), the original comment probably does low intensity (not going full hammer at their max weight and to failure all the time) and maybe get a pump and take longer breaks

Unless someones a total genetic anomaly nobody should put effort into worrying about their genetics. Out of all the aspects of your training that may be holding you back from max gains its pretty much the bottom of the list since its the one thing you can't control and doesn't effect certain things as much as you might assume if you're a normal person.

You’re definitely over training at 4-6 days a week 2 hours a day. Unless you’re taking super long rests between sets. Try decoding for a week and going back to it 3-4 days a week and change up your routine

As others have said, that's training quite a lot. I also wonder about your diet.

@sarcasm

I used to believe in the same crap when way younger.

I too was led astray and had completely false expectations. I'm just getting back on the grind now at nearly 30.

But he looks totally achievable in that movie? Especially considering they're trying to make him look good

That isn’t bad advice and his body wasn’t exactly incredible. It is definitely doable naturally, Imo I have a far superior physique and i’ve never touched gear. But it took years, some tumbles off of the path and starting again. If they go from no muscle to that in 3-5 months then yes, you should be concerned.

Yeah they really can’t tell the difference between athletic physiques to them it’s all the same long as you’re not fat or skinny

@Lejon I feel ya I showed someone a picture of me when I started working out (79kg about 15% body fat) and more recent (83kgs about 13%) it doesn't sound like much but trust me I look ALOT fuller more muscular and just bigger. Girl thought the first picture was the after xD

Oh btw that would mean about 4 kgs (probably a bit more since I've lost fat since then) of lean muscle I've been training for about 8 months is that good? Been on a very slight cut since the beginning to do the muscle building while losing fat but it's insanely slow (or at least feels like to me)

@@yorulaney8563 That's really really good natural progress, not slow at all. Edit: especially since you dropped 2% bf which at your weight is about 1.7 kilos that has been replaced by muscle, so 5.7kg of muscle in 9 months, pretty insane actually

Its all about that face. I'm shredded but women still point out how ugly my face is

I think genetics and guidance play the biggest factors

I endorse your message. Are you going to look like Thor from the movie? Unlikely. However, you can get much closer to your potential than you are now. Often men are not willing to do what it takes to get to where they'd like to be. Whining about unrealistic expectations sans juice is a cope.

@@westbrah3845 Exactly, you can maximise your potential though after 3-4 years of solid hard work and proper nutrition/guidance