Everyone gets real nervous when there's a crash over Raidillion , firstly because someone could be injured and secondly because it's another nail in the coffin for that sector.
@MatthewLee8383 Жыл бұрын
I do think they need to redesign a bigger run off to the right at the top of the hill. Crashed cars running back onto the track appears to be a big issue.
@Brendan77able Жыл бұрын
@@MatthewLee8383 If you know the track you'll know there is next to nothing they can do to improve it because of the environmental issues.
@samuelgarrod8327 Жыл бұрын
If it's ok for F1 it won't be altered.
@OrganizedMess0025 Жыл бұрын
I’d rather spa get dropped than they redesign the track in any way shape or form. And I want spa on the calendar Also, this is not on the corner layout at all but on the barrier choice. That section of track does NOT need tire barriers but safer barriers which are much better suited for higher speed impacts, such as before the kink entering Kemmel Straight.
@BadErnest Жыл бұрын
All the expanded and paved runoff has only led to more and bigger crashes
@kix5775 Жыл бұрын
The Stewards reactions were sharp
@skylordawesome9547 Жыл бұрын
Every crash at Raidillon makes you think we're about to see another Anthoine Hubert. Try as you might, you just can't kill the beast.
@chrisc475 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I love racing but there are so many crashes. Tamburello pre-1994 wasn't nearly as dangerous as Radillon and that was altered after Senna.
@DoctorMeatDic Жыл бұрын
Hubert's crash was so unfortunate. Even a massive crash at Radillon is usually ok because of the space and run-off.
@VladTheSour Жыл бұрын
and now we saw...
@NickeyF1 Жыл бұрын
this one hurts now...
@kamilklonowski6638 Жыл бұрын
It was the first warning in this year, today in same place van't Hoff died, but in much worse conditions comparing to this. Now I have a fear to watch any race on Spa seriously... R.I.P. 😔
@mait1995 Жыл бұрын
I think the armco barrier on the right side coming from radillion is still too close to the track. Not enough run of room for going off at top speed. Once again the car bounced back to the track just like Hubert did. This guy is lucky.
@salkdhfpoahergpoahre1534 Жыл бұрын
Hubert didn’t bounce back into the track. Correa hit him in that GT pit exit
@victormajor9104 Жыл бұрын
It's as far to the side as possible, behind it theres a 50 meter drop sadly
@LoudestHoward Жыл бұрын
Looks like the dude was hit up the arse by his teammate after the corner, could've happened anywhere really.
@Maverick9k Жыл бұрын
Different circumstances.
@steviegbcool Жыл бұрын
@@LoudestHoward a crashed car was in the middle of the track.
@EverSoPossiblyPat Жыл бұрын
0:35 you can already see the car in the background going around from a tap
@matttgaminghd377 Жыл бұрын
For those criticising the safety of Raidillon, the changes made to the barrier has made the corner A LOT safer. See the Cadillac crash in WEC. In previous years that car would've bounced back onto the track but it was contained in the run off area. That wall was the real danger. Also we have to remember the Hubert crash was not because he bounced off the track, his car was contained in the run off, but debris from yes, a crash into the barrier on the left, the barrier that has been changed, sent Correa into Hubert's car. IMO they should also move this barrier back (I think it is doable even with the drop) but the most dangerous part of the corner has been made safer and it has made a lot of difference already preventing what would've been bad crashes...
@VladTheSour Жыл бұрын
how do u explain today then
@matttgaminghd377 Жыл бұрын
@@VladTheSour I can explain today. For me what happened today was not wholly due to the track. It wasn't a case of a driver bouncing off the barrier and being impacted. It was a case of a driver most likely losing it all on his own in wet conditions (the footage doesnt make it clear but it seems thats what happened) and being impacted, looking at the footage, Fitzgerald did not have a chance to avoid even if the barriers were further back. What happened today can happen on any track it just coincidentally happened there...
@masterryangames770 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but I can’t agree with that. The whole thing started with a driver hitting the wall at Radillon, and everyone scrambling to avoid as the car yet again, bounced into oncoming traffic. Granted, Dilano was hit round the kink on Kemmel, but the causal point of the chaos was Radillon again. No other closed permanent circuit has a higher death rate in the last 40 years. And 8 of the last 9 driver deaths at the track have been at Eau Rouge/Radillon/Kemmel. That part of the track is too dangerous. Speed is too high, risk is too high. Lessons aren’t being learnt. Even the Nordschleife has had less deaths in competition than Spa in the last 20 years.
@matttgaminghd377 Жыл бұрын
@@masterryangames770 Tramnitz, who was the initial car that spun at Raidillon was well out of the way by the time Van't Hoff came round. The Van't Hoff incident was a completely separate incident that had no connection to the Tramnitz one, Van't Hoff either aquaplaned on his own or was hit by another driver into a half spin
@QwoaX Жыл бұрын
FIA: "We decided to install sausage curbs at Raidillon de l'Eau Rouge in order to prevent cars ricocheting back to the track by launching them at the fence."
@slanyt4805 Жыл бұрын
That's big week end crashes around the world
@diethersantos6404 Жыл бұрын
Yeah 😢
@PvMhijden Жыл бұрын
i was on the stand at radillon, you could already see it coming along the straight from turn 1, the 2 VAR cars we're to close for comfort.
@Jokerlap2 Жыл бұрын
All unhurt ? Looks scary
@Busch18Kyle Жыл бұрын
Yes, everyone was alright
@scsutton1Ай бұрын
It's the pit exit. The pit exit that was installed in 2002 goes up the inside of Eau Rouge/Raidillon and it took away the barrier that was once there. That made that section even faster and enhanced the danger even more so.
@TheTobeyGaming Жыл бұрын
Can't believe what goes through your head after crashing there and even getting thrown back onto the race track without knowing if anyone will hit you there 😬😬
@markcranston8781 Жыл бұрын
I still don't understand why those are not tech pro barriers rather than tyres. Stops cars being flung back onto the racing line
@drunkenhobo5039 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. Sports worth billions of euros race at that track, and the best solution they have for safety one of the most famous and dangerous corners is some painted used tyres? Couldn't someone spend just a tiny fraction of their paycheque and fix it once and for all?
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 Жыл бұрын
At the angle you'd hit the wall it would likely just pinball you back into the track too.
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
@@drunkenhobo5039 pero si casi venden spa que no tienen ni un euro
@IStMl Жыл бұрын
@@drunkenhobo5039 Spa has a money issue actually. They barely managed to change the corner. Racing series dont pay for track stuff. They actually charge for racing on them. Thats why we see a lot of Middle East and Asian tracks replacing European ones. Those 2 regions are ready to pay a lot to develop their soft power and international reputation.
@peterirwin64093 ай бұрын
Don’t know which Einstein decided to remove the gravel trap from the outside, but it should be put back, drivers don’t have respect for this corner anymore, thinking they can just run wide & keep going.
@didgereemedia194 Жыл бұрын
Radillon wants blood. Thank God everyone appears to be alright after this one.
@fanf1516 Жыл бұрын
Radillon doesnt wants blood. It's stupid organistators and FiA.
@Lukkaa35 Жыл бұрын
We have seen that scenario too many times now
@Freddy0K Жыл бұрын
Eau Rouge Radillion is too much dangerous
@quercus5398 Жыл бұрын
Car racing in Italy is very popular,like to see some of these drivers in F1 some day..."especially with Italian teams”
@tomlandry932 Жыл бұрын
The design of the track is for next level racers only F1 the track is not suitable for f2,f3,f4 and so on, the skill set needed and awareness is top level
@fanf1516 Жыл бұрын
Organistators and FiA didn't learned anything. Identical situation when car is bouned off instead of being absorbed. It is really difficult to change barrier on whole track?
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
no tiene dinero spa
@fanf1516 Жыл бұрын
It's only about tech pro barrier or add chicane before. Really they doesn't have money for new paint?
@olischwarz29123 ай бұрын
Was biting my teeth as soon as I saw that little bit of contact in the background. Then once I saw the full crash the only thing I could thing of is Anthoine. Worst place crash. Yet again the barriers on the right side of Raidillon just bounce cars back to where they came from.
@yabdifootballchallenges7981 Жыл бұрын
Well, there were enough warnings, even only looking at this season and yesterday we lost another life. I know motorsports are dangerous, but they should investigate the EAU Rouge-Radillion-Kemmel Straight section
@MaximoSirianidelCarril Жыл бұрын
Yeah sure acary and stuff, but the crash was not as close at Radillion as other crashes. The big runoff was so car didnt bounce off back to the racing line in a blind corner. But in that section, at least you have time to react
@ten_cents3436 Жыл бұрын
*2019 flashbacks*
@mat2000100 Жыл бұрын
Why is the Italian championship racing in Belgium?
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
como la spañolo o la alemana
@fajarastanaprima2771 Жыл бұрын
The real problem here is : the "soft" barrier bounces back the car into the incoming traffic. And this is NOT THE FIRST TIME. Spa must learn about this & should improves the safety, especially with the barrier which not bounces back the car into incoming traffic.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 Жыл бұрын
You can't just have a barrier with incredible stopping power too as that is also dangerous and could lead to fatalities due to the sheer DE-celeration
@fajarastanaprima2771 Жыл бұрын
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402 I would not said that "we don't need soft barrier", don't get me wrong, but the soft barrier itself tends to " throw back" the car into the incoming traffic. We have the SAFER barrier which when hit, allows a bit of sliding along with the barrier, not bouncing back the car instantly, while also absorbing impact energy. They are proven in NASCAR & North American race scene.
@insertgenericusernamehere2402 Жыл бұрын
@@fajarastanaprima2771 yes but you don't tend to hit the wall at a 45° angle in nascar..... You wall ride it. We see in indycar when those cars go into those kinds of barriers they just ping across the track too... Take grosjean at this year's indy 500
@allawy-179 Жыл бұрын
من صلى عليه واحده صلى الله عليه بها عشرا" "صلى الله عليه وسلم" أكثر من الصلاة عليه؟
@captainnebulous2918 Жыл бұрын
Did they change Raidillion? It looks slower/less fun
@Rolandminer1 Жыл бұрын
They only changed the runoff and walls. The racing surface itself is the same as it's always been.
@ab8jeh Жыл бұрын
Why haven't they extended the run off!! There's even room now for the tyre barrier to go fuether back, what the hell are they playing at. Spending all that money on changes and a new grandstand and can't move a barrier. Dont give me that hill crap either, they coulc easily build a structure to extend the run off if they had it as a priority. Shameful.
@markrosalejos Жыл бұрын
Wait I'm confused even though I watch motorsports for years now, I'm still confused about the f4 series because this is Italian f4 but they also raced in spa which is in Belgium. What???
@sarahgoesvroom Жыл бұрын
germam f4 also raced in assen or red bull ring sometimes
@DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader Жыл бұрын
Too many people to race in one complete F4 series, so It's split into nationalities. Italians go into Italian F4, Brits go into British F4, etc etc. Then they're promoted into F3 - and yada yada yada.
@Bezza49 Жыл бұрын
They need a heavy gravel trap at Radillion. Would stop the cars bouncing back into the track. Ridiculous that they haven't done this already.
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
si pero los coches saldrian volando
@liampw20 Жыл бұрын
This guys accent is all over the place.
@albinshandi7581 Жыл бұрын
0.36 - задний план, контакт
@edwilko8819 Жыл бұрын
Wow hope all were ok after that massive shunt
@gwadacaps06 Жыл бұрын
How commentatory missed the first contact, we saw him
@ajlavric2006 Жыл бұрын
Well that makes it 2 for 2
@Skells22 Жыл бұрын
At least this time time there was no flip but almost similar to a certain tragic crash at that very turn
@Maverick9k Жыл бұрын
Im so happy to see that the changes done to Raidillion fixed the dumb moves driver's would try and do there....
@SimRacingVeteran Жыл бұрын
Hope everyone was ok.
@maxn3021 Жыл бұрын
There needs to be more space, they meed to change that, cars always come back on the track
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
la montala sige ladera abajo
@theo-pz7un Жыл бұрын
Ah quand le retour des bacs à graviers bordel y'a déjà eu un drame ici en plus incroyable d'être en 2023 est ont comprend les erreurs déjà de 2019
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
saldrian los coches volando
@briansindorf9121 Жыл бұрын
Clearly this section of race track just isn't worth it.
@unionofsouthafricasuperfan6333 Жыл бұрын
Ik everyone loves spa cos of how iconic Eau rouge is but don't u think its getting very dangerous
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
y asi son las carrreras de coches
@user-kl3jh9nw1r Жыл бұрын
We must remake the Circuit to avoid to be dangerous crash and more
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
nooooooooooo este deporte es asi
@Nick_Cyd Жыл бұрын
Why italian f4 when belgium is at the other side of europe?
@minibus9 Жыл бұрын
very nsty crash, hope everyone was ok
@stopwar91 Жыл бұрын
Rimettete la ghiaia così che le macchine si fermino e non tornino in pista, è molto semplice
@coolguy10060 Жыл бұрын
How long until spa realizes they need more run off on the top of radillion, we see these incidents time and time againe where a car just comes back on the track and gets hit sight unseen
@Bungle2010 Жыл бұрын
You can't put runoff where there is nowhere to put runoff.
@Alexlegrand294 Жыл бұрын
They should have learnt from Antoine Hubert’s crash. History repeats again at the same place.
@FightingTorque411 Жыл бұрын
1) Learn what? Be specific. 2) History has not repeated itself because the F4 driver is not dead.
@Alexlegrand294 Жыл бұрын
@@FightingTorque411 nature of the accident is very similar and yes you are right luckily there is no one dead this time.
@kayalafors6343 Жыл бұрын
@@FightingTorque411tell that to Dilano van t Hoff
@basslineshadows6152 Жыл бұрын
Here for the clockwork responses of people pretending to know what they're talking about.
@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 Жыл бұрын
I see a BADOER in the classification. P27. Is that Luca's son?
@aivm Жыл бұрын
yes, it's Brando Badoer
@gustavoafonso15210 ай бұрын
He is the guy that caused the accident
@bcsracingnetwork6991 Жыл бұрын
Terrible crash again
@hooligansmonzanitrogaia1167 Жыл бұрын
Bastava mantenere la ghiaia nella via di fuga...!
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
saldrian los coches volando
@OccasionalNASCARRaces Жыл бұрын
Terrific camera work! JK
@lucasklaastad5532 Жыл бұрын
Rip!
@tomaslongoria2449 Жыл бұрын
??? They racing the track backwards? They came down Eau Rouge instead of going up… so cool.
@marcofranchiscacchi Жыл бұрын
It’s look like Hubert crash 😢 very impressive
@Skells22 Жыл бұрын
But unlike that sad crash we got good news here
@rafa57games Жыл бұрын
How many lifes will we have to loose before we ban this ridiculous track? Ok it's historic, it's fun to race, but it's a death trap
@GaijinDT Жыл бұрын
How many lifes will we have to loose before we ban motorsports? No reason to risk people's lives just to go around in circles, staying home is the safest and responsible thing to do
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
yyyy asi es este deporte
@Strider_JM Жыл бұрын
Who is this commentator, one of the worst commentary voices I’ve ever heard
@elpatolucas22 Жыл бұрын
los que se quejan que se dediquen a mirar otra cosa ya que no están preparados para los accidentes...el riesgo siempre va a estar algo que esta generación de fans nuevos y no tanto les cuesta aceptar !! Lo unico que piden es destrozar los circuitos haciendolos mas faciles para los pilotos !!. Si los pilotos les da miedo pues que se pongan hacer otra cosa y dejen el automovilismo !! De seguro quiren circuitos como el de Francia paul ricard...circuito bien feo, aburridor y con cero riesgo. Si a los pilotos le da miedip pues retirate no pidas que cambian el trazado o todo un circuito por vos. Y a los fans les digo lo mismo!!...dejen de pedir destrozar circuitos ! Si no quieren accidentes corran solo en Paul ricard de a un auto solo limitados a 70 km/h y se terminan los accidentes. Parte de la esencia del automovilsmo y motociclismo era el riesgo !
@user-no6gy9sd3f Жыл бұрын
A bunch of amateurs
@maciejbladzinski Жыл бұрын
That was the exact way Hubert died, but instead of truly improving the safety of the corner, Spa build grandstands nearby. Job well done. Great there weren’t any casualties this time.
@NL1108 Жыл бұрын
There is a lot more space offside the track now for cars to got though since part of the landscape was removed in order to build the grandstand, but it stays extremely dangerous
@maciejbladzinski Жыл бұрын
@@NL1108 Yes, that’s true- they widened the runoff at turn 4 which improved the safety, but my point is that primary cause of the most serious incidents (Hubert, this one, and much more) is the wall at the exit of 5 which was pretty much untouched. I understand the terrain limitations, and I’m no expert in architecture, but from the perspective of Motorsport fan I am deeply disturbed that at the first glance nothing really has changed, and extremely dangerous accidents still are happening there (but you can see them well from the shiny new grandstand).
@DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader Жыл бұрын
What can they actually do without changing the whole structure of those corners? You're watching racing. These drivers voluntarily put themselves into killing machines to race them. Sometimes people die. That's just how racing has always been and will continue to be like that. There's only so much you can do to a track to improve safety without completely destroying it.
@ab8jeh Жыл бұрын
@@DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader they can build a structure to extend the run off before the wall that flings them back. It's possible instead of the brand shiny new grandstand.
@DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader Жыл бұрын
@@ab8jeh Yeah they done that too, with building the grandstand. How big do you want the runoff to be? A version of Paul Ricard?
@ixDARIONxi Жыл бұрын
Eau Rogue needs a new design.
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
noo
@rocksreynolds3642 Жыл бұрын
How many more seasons will Spa stay open? Crashes at Radiollon get bigger the safer they try to make it. Pushing barriers back makes drivers more confident to push so more mistakes and misjudgments happen.
@willknowler8194 Жыл бұрын
It'll always be open wtf
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
si pero asi son las carreras
@finnSR_ Жыл бұрын
This needs to be banned
@FrosteeWusky Жыл бұрын
Someone is going to die in that part of the track again, it's inevitable. Spa should not be hosting any races anymore, it's far too dangerous. It should only be used for testing and lap records like the Nurburgring.
@Hillclimbfan1990 Жыл бұрын
The Nurburgring Nordschleife is still used for races. The biggest race it hosts is the 24 hours of the Nurburgring, which has a starting field of well over 100 cars. They also have their own championship (VLN) which runs a few races a year on the Nordschleife.
@ab8jeh Жыл бұрын
They just need an even bigger run off at Raidillon, why they didn't do more than they did given the visibility at the top of the hill is pretty baffling.
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
si pue vete de este deporte si no te gusta asi es esto
@pedretti810 Жыл бұрын
@@ab8jeh si pero daria menos miedo y por lo tanto + aciedente
@DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Italian F4. The worst quality F4 series.