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Italian Project Week 6 - Thoughts on Speaking Italian for the First Time

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Olly Richards

Olly Richards

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In this video, I'll tell you how I did in my first conversations in Italian - recorded in last week's video.
Summary:
1:01 My thoughts on the first week
2:12 What Martina thought about my Italian
2:39 Rating my fluency and accuracy
3:45 What happened on day 3?
5:04 The one unexpected result of the input method
7:12 My biggest mistakes in Italian
9:50 The 3 things I’m focusing on moving forward
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@EireDiplomat2024
@EireDiplomat2024 4 жыл бұрын
Her English is amazing, as close to native level an L2 speaker can get I would say
@thadtuiol1717
@thadtuiol1717 Жыл бұрын
She sounded 99.9% like a regular American to me. If she learnt English as a second language that's amazing.
@silvamayflower
@silvamayflower 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Olly. I was very impressed by your ability to speak reasonably fluent Italian even with faults. I think it shows that you have long since overcome the barriers we all face 'becoming a speaker' in another language. I often relate to my students the fact that I left school with a French A level but I couldn't speak the language, then I spent time in France, and after a few months I was fluent. You are still inspiring me, and I am listening and reading Italian daily. I now know I need to book some speaking lessons though, and this will be my goal for the Autumn term. My theoretical Italian is not bad, but I still freeze at the speaking point more than I should. Anyhow, keep up the good work, and as I listen, read and speak over the weeks, I will think of you doing the same. Looking forward to seeing how you do in Italy as well...
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sylvia. Yes, sooner or later you have to embrace speaking, however uncomfortable it may be. Rest assured though that teachers like Marina (and Stefano in my most recent video) are wonderful, supportive people who will help you quickly get through the initial uncomfortable phase.
@tullochgorum6323
@tullochgorum6323 5 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the FSI, after 50 years of intensive practical experimentation, reports that almost all learners find it helpful to drill the more problematic patterns at times so they can achieve greater accuracy. I strongly suspect that for most, a pragmatic mix of input and study is the way to go, at least after the first few weeks. You can't really argue against the primacy of input - it's how best to supplement it with study that's the interesting question. After all, it takes kids around 15000 hours of immersion to reach a decent level in their native language - so we need to find ways to accelerate the process...
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything except the last part. I moved to the United States when I was 16 years old as a Spanish speaker. As a high schooler I didn't have the luxury to study English for 15,000 hours to gain fluency. That's absurd. I was fluent enough to talk to anyone after about 10 months. Another 1-1.5 years and I also mastered the English accent. A few years later I had a college degree. A 40 hour per week job comes out to about 2,000 hours per year. Your math is way off on this one.
@harryramsaymusic
@harryramsaymusic 6 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting, and something that’s so rarely documented. Thanks so much for doing this, Olly! Interestingly enough, your experience with prepositions didn’t surprise me in the slightest, because it sounds exactly concurrent with what Mike Campbell of Glossika has always said: that language tends to come in collocations and thus the best way to learn is ALWAYS with some sort of context (for anyone who’s sceptical of this, think for a moment of the sheer variety of ways you can use the English word “get”…) - I believe Steve Kaufmann has also said very similar things. I’m also curious to know what your plan is for tackling specific weaknesses, like verb conjugation, because my experience with languages like Spanish have also been almost exactly the same. I can understand pretty well, but sometimes just can't produce the correct verb conjugation for whatever reason. How would you approach something like this? Would you isolate each conjugation and put them into flashcards, or just continue the input without worrying too much about it, or some other option...? Grazie molto, e buona fortuna :-)
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on tackling this verb conjugation thing next week. I've got a very specific plan of attack, actually, and it seems to be working. It's also led me directly to an idea for an app.... but that's a story for another day!
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 3 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. I'm about an intermediate speaker in Italian after about 3 months of solid studying primarily using Busuu. I can put together a lot of sentences due to my large vocabulary base. I think the most difficult part of learning Italian is verb conjugations followed prepositions. I just need to hear more Italian so it sticks and it "sounds right" as you say. I've only been watching and listening to content (other than my study materials) for about two weeks. I'm hoping that after a month or so it really starts coming together. My vocab count is well over 1200 so I think some verb and preposition drills along with another few hundred words should put in right in early fluent level. Of course, my main obstacle is that I don't have someone to speak to but I hope to fix that as I go along. As a native Spanish speaker I don't think speaking will be my biggest challenge.
@optimizing_fitness
@optimizing_fitness Жыл бұрын
What are you using to count vocab, LingQ? I think that I know a lot of words, but I've never used any objective measuring system to quantify this information; I've used my understanding of different media sources to gauge whether or not I know "a lot" of words or not
@MrSupernova111
@MrSupernova111 Жыл бұрын
@@optimizing_fitness . I use Busuu and it gives you an exact word count in their vocab review page. There are also lists you can download online.
@anthony9356
@anthony9356 9 ай бұрын
So you are like at an A1 level?
@carolynk2
@carolynk2 6 жыл бұрын
Great so far. Keep up the good work!
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Carolyn! Good to hear from you!
@jackiec.232
@jackiec.232 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear the one month recap and looking forward to the next chapter. Verb conjugation drills!!! *shudder*. How the heck are you going to make them interesting? Can’t wait to see this because I’m really falling down in this area and with prepositions too, ¡Buena suerte!
@jackwong9007
@jackwong9007 6 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to see you experimenting on yourself . Good job
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jack!
@qsa_
@qsa_ 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great project! Do you have any videos or blog posts on how you choose your tutors?
@skatepunk275
@skatepunk275 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome progress, great video, keep it up
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@elleryprescott
@elleryprescott 4 жыл бұрын
6:56 THIS THIS THIS!!!
@diegrow1979
@diegrow1979 6 жыл бұрын
Olly! That was successful! Keep going! Vai avanti, sei sulla strada giusta :D
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Diego!
@torbenglud1877
@torbenglud1877 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Olly. How can I work against getting blocked when I rispond in Italian?
@robincolin859
@robincolin859 7 ай бұрын
Where did you found your teacher?
@TheClassicalist
@TheClassicalist 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious, how often did you repeat your input materials? And do you repeat them a few times for a certain period of time? Or do you come back to it again after, let say, a few days or a week? Thanks!
@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
At the beginning, I’m listening to a lot of content many times (20-30 times) because I’m trying to get my brain to spot patterns. This changes when I start to understand more, as then I want to cover more ground. In general, though, quite a few times.
@TheClassicalist
@TheClassicalist 3 жыл бұрын
@@storylearning got it, so basically repeat the same limited materials until it's generally understood (maybe around 80%? more than half at least?) , then move on to cover more vocabularies. Really appreciate you sharing this. I'm going to give that a shot for my Japanese as I've been quite stuck for some years now lol.
@danielbazinga
@danielbazinga 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly impressive, but I think the Spanish you already know has had a massive impact and I think people should really understand that point. I’m only a beginner in Spanish as my only second language and I was able to pick up lots of parts of the conversation due to Italian using very similar or in many cases the same word. I think this amount of progress wouldn’t happen with someone who’s totally new
@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, yes you’re absolutely right. It would take longer, and it wasn’t my intention to suggest that anyone could do it in 3 months.
@danielbazinga
@danielbazinga 3 жыл бұрын
@@storylearning sorry if that came across wrong, I wasn’t suggesting you tried to imply that. Only there are so many people on KZfaq that claim this is possible for an absolute beginner, I think it’s important that the point is highlighted as much as possible.
@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
this is indeed a problem on KZfaq, eg “I learned Italian in a week!”
@danielbazinga
@danielbazinga 3 жыл бұрын
@@storylearning After going through this type of method, would you recommend it for someone at around an A2 level in Spanish. Would you say it’s a good way to progress quickly? There’s so much conflicting advice around on this topic I already have your short stories book and enjoy it, but also, would you recommend the lingq platform? Do you recommend using things like the audio from the mini stories to improve listening (it’s what I struggle with most)? Sorry for all of the questions 🙂
@CharleneCTX
@CharleneCTX 3 жыл бұрын
I'm learning Italian and live in a area with lots of Hispanic people. The more Italian I learn, the more Spanish I can understand around me.
@darkcdt83
@darkcdt83 6 жыл бұрын
Great update Olly! Looks like you've made a lot of progress quickly. I know you were using a lot of downtime to get input in Italian, but about how much time would you estimate daily that you were getting input? I want to pick up some Burmese for an upcoming trip, and I'm looking to experiment with a more input based method as well.
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
In the blog posts I share the exact numbers - hours listened. I tracked it all.
@barbaragemin5117
@barbaragemin5117 6 жыл бұрын
That was interesting Olly. Hearing what you were feeling during your week of, let's call it, testing your Italian. I know what you mean about prepositions, you just HAVE to absorb them in context, in listening to a language. I remember the difficulty I had here the first years. Memorizing lists of anything is simply wrong. I feel so sorry for Italian students of English who are made to do this in schools. Good luck in Italy, BOY am I curious as to where you'll be!!!!
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
It's somewhere I've never been... but have been dying to go to for years!
@paulhowlett8151
@paulhowlett8151 6 жыл бұрын
What will be your method / approach to learning the verbs? Sight and sound with stories, or just plain grammar "hacking" or something different?
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
Verb drills! A lot of the knowledge is in my head passively, so I'm using verb drills to tease it out.
@aliveandwell2078
@aliveandwell2078 Жыл бұрын
Do you speak other languages??
@jmwild22
@jmwild22 8 ай бұрын
He speaks 8 plus...
@josuebarros1168
@josuebarros1168 6 жыл бұрын
Perché non hai parlato in italiano?
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
Perché nessuno mi capirà!
@josuebarros1168
@josuebarros1168 6 жыл бұрын
Olly Richards ok, va bene. è perché io non parlo l'inglese, ma lo capisco un po'. E ho cominciato a seguirti dopo che hai cominciato a fare dei video sul tuo apprendimento dell'italiano
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
Che buono! Cercherò di fare un video in italiano proprio ogni due settimane, così poi vedere il mio progresso!
@beardan76
@beardan76 6 жыл бұрын
How do you say "When are you getting a decent haircut?' in Italian?
@storylearning
@storylearning 6 жыл бұрын
The same way you say "stuck record" ;)
@mfortin87
@mfortin87 6 жыл бұрын
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