Italy’s Bizarre Flying Barrel | The Stipa Caproni [Aircraft Overview #55]

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Today we're looking at the Stipa Caproni, a bizzare barrel shaped plane. Designed by Luigi Stipa and built by Caproni Aircraft, this was in fact an early attempt at ducted fan technology.
0:00 Intro
2:42 Design & Development
10:13 Flights & Performance
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Producing these videos is a hobby of mine - and apparently its now a full-time job too! I have a passion for history, and personally own a large collection of books, journals and other texts, and endeavor to do as much research as possible. However if there are any mistakes, please don't hesitate to reach out and correct anything :)
Sources:
NACA Technical Memorandum #753, July 1933.
La Propulsione a rezione in Italia dalle origini al 1943. Aeronautica Miltare.
Thompson.J.W (1963). Italian Civil and Military Aircraft 1930 - 1945

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@RexsHangar
@RexsHangar 2 жыл бұрын
The first 100 people to download Endel by clicking the link below will get a free week of audio experiences! app.adjust.com/b8wxub6?campaign=rexshangar_may&adgroup=youtube F.A.Q Section Q: Do you take aircraft requests? A: I have a list of aircraft I plan to cover, but feel free to add to it with suggestions:) Q: Why do you use imperial measurements for some videos, and metric for others? A: I do this based on country of manufacture. Imperial measurements for Britain and the U.S, metric for the rest of the world, but I include text in my videos that convert it for both. Q: Will you include video footage in your videos, or just photos? A: Video footage is very expensive to licence, if I can find footage in the public domain I will try to use it, but a lot of it is hoarded by licencing studies (British Pathe, Periscope films etc). In the future I may be able to afford clips :) Q: Why do you sometimes feature images/screenshots from flight simulators? A: Sometimes there are not a lot of photos available for certain aircraft, so I substitute this with digital images that are as accurate as possible. Feel free to leave you questions below - I may not be able to answer all of them, but I will keep my eyes open :)
@sparky6086
@sparky6086 2 жыл бұрын
Popular Mechanics Magazine in the 1950's or '60's had plans for a flying model airplane named "Hoop Skirt", which used the same principles & looked like a flying barrel.
@gehtdianschasau8372
@gehtdianschasau8372 7 ай бұрын
@@sparky6086 1:20 I fist thought, this was the logo of the aircraft manufacturer. A barrel with a propeller in it.
@Dr_Jebus
@Dr_Jebus 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to do wind tunnel testing when your plane is a wind tunnel
@soppdrake
@soppdrake 2 жыл бұрын
😃🙃
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 2 жыл бұрын
Recursive AF.
@Robocopnik
@Robocopnik 2 жыл бұрын
You could put a plane inside this plane, test two at once, that's efficiency.
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robocopnik You have just proven why we need to show more respect for Italian engineering. 👨‍🍳😘😆
@Monkey80llx
@Monkey80llx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Robocopnik No, that’s completely compromising the design and effectiveness of the first plane. I knew you were joking. I just thought i’d be the bigger idiot 😆😳😬😆
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 2 жыл бұрын
It appears to be the aircraft that destroyed enemy aircraft by eating them.
@chuckk458
@chuckk458 2 жыл бұрын
So, Italian Kirby then?
@RexsHangar
@RexsHangar 2 жыл бұрын
Om nom nom
@HarborLockRoad
@HarborLockRoad 2 жыл бұрын
William Windom flew a starship into its mouth to destroy it.
@johnbenson4672
@johnbenson4672 2 жыл бұрын
@@HarborLockRoad I get that reference.
@BlackMasterRoshi
@BlackMasterRoshi 2 жыл бұрын
how do you think it got so fat?
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 2 жыл бұрын
It pioneered both the Jet engine principles and Vectored thrust. Nice.
@seriousthree6071
@seriousthree6071 2 жыл бұрын
More a ducted fan, which is used in jet engines but more large bypass ones as used on airliners. There has recently been some interest in ducted propeller design for modern electric propulsion. Definitely vectored thrust though.
@billinghamscuba
@billinghamscuba 2 жыл бұрын
Lol no
@waffles9771
@waffles9771 2 жыл бұрын
@@billinghamscuba How come
@Mishn0
@Mishn0 2 жыл бұрын
@@seriousthree6071 I think it qualifies as a jet powered aircraft. The forward thrust is indeed provided by a "jet" of air coming out of the fuselage.
@timothyterrell1658
@timothyterrell1658 Жыл бұрын
A shame that the guy didn't know what he had. And where it would go.
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 2 жыл бұрын
The early days of aviation must have been an incredible time to be an engineer when all manner of crazy, radical downright wacky and outlandish designs were built and tested. Today anything too radical or crazy would never get funding
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 2 жыл бұрын
G'day, Hmmmn. Clearly you have yet to meet the Hadley Optica, intended to compete with Heligoflopters. And perhaps ye ha'e yet to hear o' Elon Musk's Roquet Park, with all his dud Skyrockets lined up in a row, to reming him of what does not wurrrk...(?) ! To say nothin' about his "HyperLoopy" reinvention of the Tunnel. Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@ViperPilot16
@ViperPilot16 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you have the resources to fund it yourself.
@thekaiser3815
@thekaiser3815 2 жыл бұрын
It was like Christmas bullet
@emjackson2289
@emjackson2289 2 жыл бұрын
"Today anything too radical or crazy would never get funding" - well the F35 . . . .
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 2 жыл бұрын
@@emjackson2289 Not that radical more like an evolution of existing designs. It's airframe is conservative. Even its vertical take off has been done before. Truly radical would become something like the F117 nighthawk. Now that was worthy of bieng called radical. Things that are so outside the box that they shock the world are very rare these days
@donjones4719
@donjones4719 2 жыл бұрын
"Italy's weirdest plane" in the thumbnail. OK, you've set a high bar.
@tobymaltby6036
@tobymaltby6036 2 жыл бұрын
Bartini Beriev VVA-14: hold my beer. ....yes, a Soviet built aircraft.... ...designed by an Italian.
@arnaldorentes5371
@arnaldorentes5371 2 жыл бұрын
After all, it's a ducted fan. Great for the time and today we know, almost anything flies with this propulsion. Superman, a witch, a magic carpet... Why not, a cartoon plane? Thanks for the video!
@normvw4053
@normvw4053 2 жыл бұрын
Again, this time frame was the golden age of aviation. Everything one could think of was tried, some worked and others failed...miserably. It follows the principle of the high bypass turbine engines we employ, today. "The more things change, the more they remain the same."
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
the design isn’t far off from how jet engines work as IIRRC fanjets work the same way. his idea was an unintentional step towards the jet age, a decade before the rise of jet engines
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 2 жыл бұрын
It was the Tommy wiseau of airplanes
@carta8399
@carta8399 2 жыл бұрын
He was an experienced engineer, he was experimentating plausible solutions, it wasn't unintentional, it's not like he casually tried something out of a dream.
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 2 жыл бұрын
@@carta8399 his idea was sound and is basically used today in RC planes. Ducted fans work best with electric motors. The technology at the time wasn't really up to it.
@carta8399
@carta8399 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 No of course, the idea was there but everything else wasn't.
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24
@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 2 жыл бұрын
@@carta8399 in the history of aviation this is actually common. The ones we regard as the 1st to create a new ground breaking design or idea usually weren't the 1st to think it up. Instead they were usually the 1st who could actually build it with the technology they had access to.
@peterramsay1767
@peterramsay1767 2 жыл бұрын
‘’Courage taught me no matter how bad a crisis gets ... any sound investment will eventually pay off."
@cryptocasey1083
@cryptocasey1083 2 жыл бұрын
Making it out at a young age is quite difficult. I started a side hustle at 17, saved up and made some good investments. l'm 28,live on my own and having a good life for myself. Big ups to you and everyone out there trying
@kathyfrugalsen3047
@kathyfrugalsen3047 2 жыл бұрын
@@cryptocasey1083 Sounds like plan, how do you put money to work?
@cryptocasey1083
@cryptocasey1083 2 жыл бұрын
@@kathyfrugalsen3047 Yes it sure is. I put in money in investments and get profits. That 's how I make more money without working. This does not sound new to you right ?
@kathyfrugalsen3047
@kathyfrugalsen3047 2 жыл бұрын
@@cryptocasey1083 Thanks for replying me, I've heard so many people talk about investment but none had said how to do it right.
@steceymorgan814
@steceymorgan814 2 жыл бұрын
Am hoping on you can explain more on how you make extra income from investments
@carloduroni5629
@carloduroni5629 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Rex, I appreciate all your work and expecially that about Italian "air oddities". Your pronunciation of Italian is pretty good and I'd like to give just an advice. As you may probably know, Italian has pretty stringent rules of pronunciation and here are some of them: C and G are "hard" before vowels A, U and O (like in "car" or "gun") while they're "soft" before I and E (like in "jet" or "cheese"). If you want to make them the other way round you must interpose another specific letter. Therefore, C and G become "soft" before A, U and O by interposing an I. So, when you say "Giovanni", you must NOT make the I heard, for it just serves as a "softener", thus you should pronunciate it like "Jovanni". Same (kind of) story if you want to have "hard" C and G before E and I: you must add an H in between. Therefore, Italian "chi" is like English "ki". I understand this is harder to remember for it looks the other way round in English. Keep on the good work and ciao (pronounce as "chao", not "chiao") ;-)
@simonwoods2169
@simonwoods2169 Жыл бұрын
Grande
@peoasdosdsdas
@peoasdosdsdas Жыл бұрын
Hey that was very informative
@stephenrickstrew7237
@stephenrickstrew7237 2 жыл бұрын
Another Well Done Episode …Imagine trying to calculate the aerodynamics with a pencil and a slide rule …Ducted Fans are still under development.. so this was way ahead of it’s time
@melonenstrauch1306
@melonenstrauch1306 2 жыл бұрын
"Caproni's wierd aircraft design bingo card" is something I didn't know I needed.
@jonmcgee6987
@jonmcgee6987 2 жыл бұрын
I came across this aircraft in a book I owned 15 years ago. I showed the picture of it to one of my bosses. He scanned it in and did a little color photo editing to it. Making it look like a flying Pepsi can.
@thetman0068
@thetman0068 2 жыл бұрын
Pepsi Man’s own version of the Batmobile!
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, did you work at Dunder Mifflin?
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 2 жыл бұрын
Now, if Red Bull built a fleet of these for their races . . . 'Caproni gives you cans!'
@chowderpilot3843
@chowderpilot3843 2 жыл бұрын
What a unique project - and pretty ahead of its time design-wise. It looks like it was delivered to Wile.E.Coyote in kit form in a wooden crate with ACME stenciled on the side...😉
@StevenVanLoven
@StevenVanLoven 2 жыл бұрын
I like to see the different prototypes and types of aircraft made by the Caproni company , and how they have found a place in history . Thanks for this well documented video.
@tnightwolf
@tnightwolf 2 жыл бұрын
Love the cartoonish look of the plane! It's like love at first sight!
@realityquotient7699
@realityquotient7699 2 жыл бұрын
I think that with some proper development the design could have been drastically improved. It's a ducted fan, and as we now know with R/C models ducted fans can boast serious performance over conventional propeller driven designs.
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 2 жыл бұрын
Not by chance Stipa designed it for large aircrafts, where the barrels, buried into the thickness of the wings, would have generated near to none additional drag.
@lobsterbark
@lobsterbark 2 жыл бұрын
Ducted fans are actually quite inefficient for most applications. Its not just a matter of the drag. Here is one way to conceptualize it: The duct benefits the efficiency of propeller by eliminating tip drag and directing the airflow more. When the aircraft is moving, the relative speed difference between the air moved by the propeller and the surrounding air is lower, reducing the benefit of airflow being more directed because it has less energy pushing it to being misdirected. So for high speed airplanes, ducted fans just produce more drag. The popularity of ducted fans for RC aircraft are actually more to do with the fact that you are limited to fixed pitch propellers at those scales. If you put a more powerful motor in an RC plane and want to put that power into the air, you need to either spin the propeller faster, or use a bigger propeller. You reach the practical limit for propeller size pretty quickly, and after that there is no way to go but higher rpm. The higher the rpm of the propeller, the higher the tip drag is, so pretty quickly tip drag just eats up any extra power you put into it and you just end up sucking down the batteries faster and making more noise to go the same speed. Ducted fans eliminate tip drag, allowing for higher propeller rpm, and therefore higher thrust for the size. The reason why real aircraft don't use ducted fans is because if you are using that much power, the only practical way to be generating that power is with a turbine engine. So its easiest to just make it a jet engine and not deal with the middleman of a power turbine and gearbox and propeller. RC planes that use that much power can only fly for minutes at a time while actually using that power, so the don't bother building electric planes that powerful. They barely bother to build electric planes at all.
@svennoren9047
@svennoren9047 2 жыл бұрын
@@lobsterbark You do realize that most commercial planes today use turbine driven ducted fans (aka: turbofan engines)? That type is the most efficient at high subsonic speeds, with turboprops better at low speeds and turbojets taking over at supersonic speeds. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbofan#Efficiency
@lobsterbark
@lobsterbark 2 жыл бұрын
@@svennoren9047 Yeah, those are technically ducted fans but nobody calls them that. I basically explained why with my long-winded comment. They could technically make them turboprops and it would be more efficient, but the prop size would have to be absolutely insane and the crazy stuff you would have to do with the design to make that possible would probably steal away any efficiency gains anyways.
@richardprice5978
@richardprice5978 2 жыл бұрын
um this idea but with 2 mods 1 2-big bypass turbofan's and 2 at altitude fly side ways to get into SS-sonic speed as the design of the wing tips looks like it might be good at cutting air as a nose and it looks like a flying wing so theoretically forward's and sideways flying is possible if not more efficient in different mode's
@ridleymain9234
@ridleymain9234 2 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when Rex uploads
@weapon131
@weapon131 2 жыл бұрын
Can we please appreciate how absolutely stunningly eye-pleasing the N.1 is?
@stevetournay6103
@stevetournay6103 Жыл бұрын
And I think she's still around, too, in a museum in Italy. Could be wrong though.
@Insanitypants80
@Insanitypants80 2 жыл бұрын
Caproni really did like his odd-looking planes.
@rubiconnn
@rubiconnn 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he was just throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. He made a lot of strange and impractical aircraft. I'm surprised that this thing doesn't have like 8 engines.
@gian.4388
@gian.4388 2 жыл бұрын
​​@@rubiconnn Well, that's the entire history of aviation basically Though I guess Caproni was one who tried out many very different ideas, compared to your average engineer of the time
@robertwilloughby8050
@robertwilloughby8050 2 жыл бұрын
I love his piston engined (?!) jet!
@kirkmooneyham
@kirkmooneyham 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this, I never knew it existed, but it makes a lot of sense despite its odd appearance. Most people don't realize that a large portion of modern jet engine success derives from the shape of the intake and exhaust ducting. A lot of engineering goes into getting the shape correct to feed the air through as engines these days are all about the fan on the front. The engine itself exists to drive that fan and control its speed. Stipa undoubtedly aided this work with his ducted fan research.
@BV-fr8bf
@BV-fr8bf 2 жыл бұрын
NICE BV141 in your ad! Will never skip an ad after this!!
@glaslynx123
@glaslynx123 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode Rex, like the humour creeping in and more relaxed presentation style. Keep up the good work
@stevenborham1584
@stevenborham1584 2 жыл бұрын
Rex, your humour is more profound than one may initially realize with your joke about the Stipa being "..the lovechild of a Gee Bee racer and a garbage can". Both aircraft have a special trick up their sleeve in the manner in which they achieve flight. A bit like how a well executed grid iron throw gets maximum air time.
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 Жыл бұрын
Kind of the proto-jet in some respects. Genius design.
@davedarling4316
@davedarling4316 2 жыл бұрын
"... the love child of a Gee Bee racer and a dustbin..." LOVE IT!!!
@alm5992
@alm5992 2 жыл бұрын
Made by Luigi? No wonder it looks like a pipe!
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 2 жыл бұрын
That's just plain neat. Usually things that look like they shouldn't be able to fly never get off the ground, it's nice to see an exception to that.
@thetman0068
@thetman0068 2 жыл бұрын
Just plane neat
@michaelscaplis
@michaelscaplis 2 жыл бұрын
Again a wonderous aircraft design I've never heard of before. Also nice that someone built a flyable scale version of it. Looking forward to the video on the N1.
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 2 жыл бұрын
For years my dad had this toy plane that had the tail as a pair of scissors, a, tape measure on one wing, a pencil sharpener on the other wing, The tail was a plastic crayon sharpener and propeller could come off to reveal a dried out bottle of superglue. It looked like a Caproni Stepa in design with shorter front wings.
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 2 жыл бұрын
I need to get him a new of this toy/desk thing.
@Brwigames
@Brwigames 2 жыл бұрын
I need it
@das_gruuben
@das_gruuben 2 жыл бұрын
As an aeronautics neophyte, I love these videos. They're a great insight into early plane design. Please keep them coming!
@stephenremington8448
@stephenremington8448 2 жыл бұрын
A real life cartoon Flying Basking Shark! Great video.
@Norbert_Sattler
@Norbert_Sattler 2 жыл бұрын
To a technical layman this looks a lot like the grandfather of jet engines. Did the developers of the German jet engines know about this design and do we know if it had any influence on them?
@discoplumber
@discoplumber 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone thinks this looks nuts but it's basically a prop version of early jets like the Mig 15 or F-86 etc
@findlaech
@findlaech 2 жыл бұрын
Well researched and nicely presented. Thank you.
@jessfrankel5212
@jessfrankel5212 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the Caproni take off is like watching a guppy take flight.
@redemissarium
@redemissarium 2 жыл бұрын
Super Guppy do take flight tho but retired now
@huwzebediahthomas9193
@huwzebediahthomas9193 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a flying basking shark. But looks as if it was very stable in the air, with the various forces from all that air going through it. Interesting.
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 2 жыл бұрын
R/c inflatable, ducted-fan, 5' basking shark . . slowly cruising past someone's office window? . . This idea has legs : )
@neogeo1670
@neogeo1670 2 жыл бұрын
You sparked an interest for me in aircraft history well done sir!
@SuperLancevancedance
@SuperLancevancedance 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man, keep it up !, Also your voice it's pretty good 👍
@tiberiusgracchus4222
@tiberiusgracchus4222 2 жыл бұрын
I really want that plane. I'd love to fly to work in that thing.
@oriontaylor
@oriontaylor Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see a video explaining the airborne cartoon!
@coujodabear1373
@coujodabear1373 2 жыл бұрын
I just looked the other day to see if you did a video on this aircraft. And now I can't wait to see your video on the CC n.1!
@wayneandrus307
@wayneandrus307 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and research@
@garryferrington811
@garryferrington811 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, fascinating experiment.
@vladdrakul7851
@vladdrakul7851 2 жыл бұрын
A truly fascinating flying 'freak' that worked! As others here have noted it paved the way for future more recognizable concepts like vector flight and the jet. This was an exceptionally interesting plane that I have never heard of. Spread the word! A proud subsciber and ex RAF Flight Sgt!
@jasonz7788
@jasonz7788 2 жыл бұрын
Great work Sir thank you
@TheMrPeteChannel
@TheMrPeteChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh yes the Italians. Delicious food, questionable governments, wonderful music, horrible vendettas, beautiful cars & wacky planes.
@alankohn6709
@alankohn6709 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those odd designs that make you wonder what could be done with today with new materials and improved engines possibly even as an EV aircraft
@grrlpurpleable
@grrlpurpleable 2 жыл бұрын
I'd hoped you would cover this absolutely odd yet creative beauty at some point :)
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 2 жыл бұрын
The first known attempt at ducted thrust. Focused thrust. Very nice. Never knew this flying keg existed.
@willibaldkothgassner4383
@willibaldkothgassner4383 2 жыл бұрын
thanks, very easy to understand you, greetings from Austria
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 2 жыл бұрын
This is another one I knew of but I had long wanted to know more about. So thanks for that. You have to wonder what what a two or four engined flying wing version would have been like. I look forward to the ducted fan afterburner Caproni. Another one on my list I would like to know more about.
@duncangrainge
@duncangrainge 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid Rex. What an interesting aircraft. Only the Italians 😎 Hope you get better soon
@matthewfernandez1101
@matthewfernandez1101 2 жыл бұрын
What a piece of art 😍😍
@nihon2251
@nihon2251 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a plane put on a jacket before leaving the hangar.
@964cuplove
@964cuplove 2 жыл бұрын
Gute Besserung from Germany and thx for the nice vid
@benwilson6145
@benwilson6145 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ErnestoBrausewind
@ErnestoBrausewind 2 жыл бұрын
Those design studys for the bigger, multiple tube plains look cool - would have been another of the italian design classics
@planescaped
@planescaped 2 жыл бұрын
I've just used a fan pointed into the corner of my room as a white noise generator to help me sleep for over a decade now. Works great. :P
@pup1008
@pup1008 2 жыл бұрын
I'm now convinced the entire international aviation community, from 1920 - 1930, were taking some kind of prerequisite, mutually agreed upon *Acid!*
@ajshell2
@ajshell2 2 жыл бұрын
This an the SNECMA Coleoptere are two of my favorite strange-looking planes. Thanks for talking about it in such detail. I had a book called "The World's Worst Aircraft", and you video goes into more detail on the Stipa-Caproni than the book did. Congratulations.
@brianford8493
@brianford8493 2 жыл бұрын
Flying Hairdryer....id love a kit of that
@dennismason3740
@dennismason3740 7 ай бұрын
My third watch, this story with pics makes me happy. I feel the designer's physics, I had felt them as a kid, using a toilet paper tube. 1950s.
@thomashyde9208
@thomashyde9208 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about the Japanese Ki-43 Oscar?
@foreverpinkf.7603
@foreverpinkf.7603 2 жыл бұрын
That was a really interesting one. Way ahead of it´s time.
@SuperWooba
@SuperWooba 2 жыл бұрын
I believe ducted fans will make a comeback in the new electric era of personal aircraft.
@justfly7730
@justfly7730 2 жыл бұрын
There are electric ducted fans in rc models
@donjones4719
@donjones4719 2 жыл бұрын
10:20 Adding another sticker to his bingo card of weird planes. Lol, that's professional-comedy-level writing!
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 2 жыл бұрын
Looks SO weird, but was actually very clever - but sadly ahead of iits time. Another one of those you daren't realease on April 1st though...
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say this airplane was _"a _*_barrel_*_ of fun"_ to fly...😊 FWIW: I have seen photographs and film footage of this airplane in the past, but this video is the most information I've ever learned about it.
@MemphisBBQ640
@MemphisBBQ640 2 жыл бұрын
"...the strange love child of a GeeBee Racer and a dustbin..." LOL!
@nathanchildress5596
@nathanchildress5596 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel Rex! I’d love to make an RC model of this thing, I bet it would be fantastic
@avstud09
@avstud09 2 жыл бұрын
thinkin about one myself-foam board & balsa to start.....hmmm where goes the batt.....cg be a bitch...
@JDMatthias
@JDMatthias 2 жыл бұрын
The only "kills" was by the opposition dying of laughter
@kittehgo
@kittehgo 2 жыл бұрын
It's very hard to pilot a plane when you have shortness of breath, tears in your eyes and quite possibly wet pants. Quite the genius move by the Italians, they could have saved a fortune on not having to arm the planes.
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 2 жыл бұрын
"kills"? It never pretended to be a fighter.
@marcusmoonstein242
@marcusmoonstein242 2 жыл бұрын
The four-engine design could have made an amazing bomber. The high lift would have enabled a heavy bomb load, and the inherent stability would have helped with bombing accuracy.
@BA-gn3qb
@BA-gn3qb Жыл бұрын
🎶Roll out the Barrel We'll have a barrel of fun🎶
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 2 жыл бұрын
The afterburning airplane looks _very_ interesting!
@ianbell5611
@ianbell5611 2 жыл бұрын
What a Great plane
@LuigianoMariano
@LuigianoMariano 2 жыл бұрын
This is a concept that looks like it was far too ahead of its time. And it definitely was.
@salvagedb2470
@salvagedb2470 2 жыл бұрын
The Camproni M1 looks really cool hope for a vid on it soon , as for the Caproni Stipa I dont know how safe I would feel if it had been a passenger carrier..but without thes Odd ball looking Machines aviation Designers wouldn't learn what can an what cant...Good one again Rex.
@nathanchildress5596
@nathanchildress5596 2 жыл бұрын
It would be very safe. As mentioned it had incredible lift and stability along with a low stall and takeoff speed. Those are great attributes for a safe aircraft
@salvagedb2470
@salvagedb2470 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanchildress5596 As the single prototype it looks daunting , but in a larger 2/3 engine fig it would fair better and look amazing.
@Search_00
@Search_00 2 жыл бұрын
G’day Rex
@wagahagwa6978
@wagahagwa6978 2 жыл бұрын
this is my favorite plane of early aviation
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 2 жыл бұрын
*So close* to early development of jet engines. For that matter, ducted fans could have been a fascinating addition to combat aviation technology.
@builder396
@builder396 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it wouldve made much sense in a fighter plane, or a bomber for that matter, for the same reason as the He 100 that used the entire wing surface as a radiator. Essentially youre running around with a way larger engine nacelle than you need to, which gets hit by bullets far more easily and I think holes in the duct would cause some problems, especially drag. Compare that with a conventional aircraft, and its fairly easy to realize why this idea didnt take off, even if the principle could have been integrated into a larger design more elegantly.
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 2 жыл бұрын
@@builder396 everything starts crude, and gets improved. Nothing pressurizes R&D like war. Already, we can see that there were multiple much more compact ducted fan designs on the drawing boards - what might have come if development had continued? One of the things that occurs to me is that you can do the same thing as the V-22 Osprey with ducted fans in place of the wingtip nacelles. Might we have seen, for instance, VSTOL transport aircraft? How would that have affected the shape of the Battlespace?
@divarachelenvy
@divarachelenvy 2 жыл бұрын
fascinating.. hi from Brisbane..
@MrDino1953
@MrDino1953 2 жыл бұрын
Looks wierd, but nicely solves the problem of the asymmetric airflow along the fuselage, wings and tail that you get with an exposed propellor.
@Paronak
@Paronak 2 жыл бұрын
True, some aircrafts were asymmetric to my surprise. Was it the C202? It's so subtle too
@deaks25
@deaks25 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a follow up with some info on the replica, especially if you can find some info or talk with people involved in it's creation about how it flew compared to ordinary aircraft.
@MrDiggityaus
@MrDiggityaus 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I love Caproni.
@richardcutts196
@richardcutts196 2 жыл бұрын
That was interesting.
@PhantomLover007
@PhantomLover007 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a really big fan of this 😛
@briankdey1746
@briankdey1746 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've bugged you about this one before, after I built an rc model of one.
@milkhbox
@milkhbox 2 жыл бұрын
Do please produce a video on that last aircraft shown. That thing sounds super interesting.
@HamiltonStandard
@HamiltonStandard 2 жыл бұрын
the world first jet aircraft... brilliant!
@warhawk4494
@warhawk4494 2 жыл бұрын
Cool plane that was in a way ahead of its time. Could you do a video on CAM ships used in WW2?
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for a very fine video as are all of your video's.....Shoe🇺🇸
@liambryant4953
@liambryant4953 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Could you cover the bv 238?
@Simon_Nonymous
@Simon_Nonymous 2 жыл бұрын
I've just started a course of antibiotics for a throat infection so you have my sympathy, however your voice sounds fine! I look forward to the follow up video on the repro craft, especially if it was still flying!! (And how much crowdfunding would be required if it isn't currently flyable?)
@aseheavyindustries798
@aseheavyindustries798 2 жыл бұрын
I've always liked this plane. even though it didn't get additional funding, it's a rare happy ending for one of these weird prewar experiments where it actually flies well
@bob19611000
@bob19611000 2 жыл бұрын
The implication of a tube with a "folded over - circular" wing design creating lift is evidence that a wing does not create lift via the Bernoulli effect. That is the curved component creates a low pressure area which the flat side's higher pressure pushes up on. If this was the case the tube's bottom and top surfaces would cancel out resulting in no lift.
@stevenborham1584
@stevenborham1584 2 жыл бұрын
I feel your over simplifying a wing as just a Bernoulli device. Nearly all wings are curved upper and lower surface structures, some are even symmetrical and only make lift when essentially tilted up into the airflow. An F-104 wing only fly's as a stalled slab at slower speeds and has a very flat diamond cross section. One can best visualize the Stipa's fuselage as a super open blown wing or a zero stagger biplane pinched into a tube. A blown wing in the sense that the funneled thrust at the rear prevents any flow reversal on the outer tube surface allowing all airflow to remain lamina and flow across very varying thicknesses of relative airfoil sections around the tube making as many areas of lift as possible. All this would only be generated in some degree of pitch up or angle of attack. This is a normal flight regime in most aircraft and is often trimmed into the aircraft deliberately. Some lift is created inside the lower tube half, the rest is generated over the outer upper half of the tube. As you stated however I agree that the lift would be cancelled out in a zero angle of attack regime, this however I doubt is ever a regime of flight for most aircraft until the lift is greater than needed at higher speeds in which a nose down trim is needed. This can be seen in WWII fighter aircraft used in pylon racing, and is very pronounced when formating alongside a modern jet fighter just hanging onto lift at it's lower speed envelope while the prop fighter is way nosed over just to get the speed for level flight in that unusual formation.
@stevenborham1584
@stevenborham1584 2 жыл бұрын
To see my last point in vivid detail do an image search of "Spitfire and Eurofighter formation". I doubt you will also find any image of the Stipa Caproni flying at zero angle of attack which validates your original point in principle, however in practice not many wings fly as you inferred by your opening statement.
@bob19611000
@bob19611000 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenborham1584 I can float a pin on water due to "surface tension" but its not why ships float.
@bob19611000
@bob19611000 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenborham1584 Its not a "Bernoulli device" that's my point and the opinion of aerodynamic experts. What you a describing is the redirect of airflow not low-high pressure differential.
@stevenborham1584
@stevenborham1584 2 жыл бұрын
@@bob19611000 I guess one can ague their point ad nauseam, and it will only be the situation of the 3 blind men describing an elephant situation with all descriptions being valid. Your point about the pin is a good one.
@nicholascox6411
@nicholascox6411 2 жыл бұрын
It's awesome
@geekmansegraves
@geekmansegraves Жыл бұрын
As wonderfully derpy looking as this is, I would love to see a modern attempt using composite materials and computer drafting.
@wazza7575
@wazza7575 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know you were an Aussie Rex. Greetings from the Blue Mountains NSW.
@petterisaari7653
@petterisaari7653 2 жыл бұрын
I like that aircraft
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