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Italy’s MX5 Rival - Bad Idea Made Into A Great Car - Fiat Barchetta

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Number 27

Number 27

Күн бұрын

Fiat's entry back into open top two seaters was the result of the MX5's success but with front wheel drive can Fiat's Barchetta really compete with Mazda's MX5?

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@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 Жыл бұрын
I thought barchettas always looked better in real life than in video or photos
@robiulahmed
@robiulahmed Жыл бұрын
Yes. Absolutely beautiful car in the metal.
@kipsome45
@kipsome45 Жыл бұрын
The pre-facelift car is much prettier to my eyes.
@wp8022
@wp8022 Жыл бұрын
​@@kipsome45Yep, I think so, too.
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd Жыл бұрын
I always wanted one when had no money 18-25 years age. Very pretty. Lovely door handles. Why didn’t make RHD I don’t know
@AxLWake
@AxLWake Жыл бұрын
I've never driven one but they do look wonderfully elegant. The design has aged very gracefully. (Pre-facelift)
@mattbettany1174
@mattbettany1174 Жыл бұрын
When I was a Fiat salesman these looked fantastic in the showroom. The biggest hurdle the Barchetta had though was the left hand drive only . In the UK market it just put too many people off
@adrianmonk4440
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
@matt // Heck yeah. I'd get confused. Italian thinking, "Ehhh, just use your horn more ;--)
@nostradamus7648
@nostradamus7648 Жыл бұрын
Their fault for driving on the wrong side of the road. 😂
@rc666
@rc666 Жыл бұрын
english food wars cars and some habits, rubbish.
@taunuslunatic404
@taunuslunatic404 Жыл бұрын
@@nostradamus7648 If they had switched to LHD there'd be no problem.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 Жыл бұрын
​@@nostradamus7648 We drive on the proper side 😉
@ericvandenberg5502
@ericvandenberg5502 Жыл бұрын
I had a yellow barchetta for 22 years. Bought it in 1995 just after it was introduced at the Geneva car show (I live in Switzerand). I loved it. Max. torque was, if I remember correctly, around 4200 revs and you could still go way beyond that. Great for sporty driving on windy mountain roads, fast shifting gears up and down. After 22 years I had the first real technical (engine) problem and the car wasn't worth anymore repairing it (too expensive). Several times we went on tours with barchetta clubs in Europe and on one such tour we visited the barchetta factory near Torino in Italy. After the barchetta died I bought an MX5-D. I liked the MX5 design better than the Fiat 124 which is based on the MX5 chassis. No question, the MX5 is technically a much better car than the barchetta was and I really enjoy having one. But that doesn't change the fact that I loved the barchetta. The wind in my hair is the same. What's left of it are plenty of photos and the memories.
@Tacko14
@Tacko14 Жыл бұрын
When Jeremy said he didn’t ‘bond’ with the MX-5 and Hamster said the Barchetta made him feel special, no matter the fwd, I was quite taken aback. But there you go. It’s not the ingredients, it’s the chef
@tacfoley4443
@tacfoley4443 Жыл бұрын
Jeremy is a foot too tall to benefit from the limited fun of the Barchetta......
@grahamtranter3616
@grahamtranter3616 Жыл бұрын
Since buying mine thirteen years ago Ive read or watched every review. One chap said he began to understand the Barchetta after 10 minutes, he thought you played with the back end on the slow as opposed to the accelerate cus the front was so planted. In regard to the engines I would have concluded exactly the opposite, the one MX5 1800 I drove seemed civilised and the same as every 4 cylinder of the time. PS I really can't imagine the Barchetta was the heir of the Fiat 124 surely it was the heir of the 850 spider and the subsequent X19.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The mazda 1.8 is at best 'sanitary' from the factory.
@DouglasJWalker
@DouglasJWalker Жыл бұрын
I wish Fiat could still make cars today with the style this car has. To me a great time for them and Italy
@Pfessor_Moriarty
@Pfessor_Moriarty Жыл бұрын
Their current spider is really lovely
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 Жыл бұрын
@@Pfessor_Moriarty Agree the MX5 based Fiat Spider is indeed a desirable car. Shame it was discontinued in circa 2020.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 Жыл бұрын
​@@georgebettiol8338 The 500 is incredibly chic and stylish. Still rocking the modern retro look with aplomb.
@AlexTenThousand
@AlexTenThousand Жыл бұрын
The thing is, people often hear "front-wheel-drive" and think it's an undriveable log, but if you set it up right (and don't drive like you're expecting a rear-wheel-drive car), it's a pleasurable and agile experience.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Fwd cars are some of the best. And for all those saying rwd is best... I'd agree if you're driving a commercial vehicle from lorries to 4 tonne curtain siders.
@AlexTenThousand
@AlexTenThousand Жыл бұрын
@@skylined5534 both have pros and cons, but Europe especially has a long and rich tradition of building FWD hot hatches, and yet I've never heard people complain about the Golf GTI saying "Oh it's a FWD car, it's bad". Suddenly an Italian marque makes a FWD car, and they all criticise it for being FWD.
@manofweed1
@manofweed1 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice if they made a 'spiritual successor' to the potentially great X1/9.
@theblackhand6485
@theblackhand6485 Жыл бұрын
X1/9.
@tvaatakt1
@tvaatakt1 Жыл бұрын
Try the Alfa romeo 4C for a compact mid engine sports car.
@da206hbe
@da206hbe Жыл бұрын
Saw one some weeks ago! Nice.
@johnbrobston1334
@johnbrobston1334 Жыл бұрын
That was a wonderful car to drive. I had one of those and a Corvette and I drove the X1/9. I'd likely still have it if it hadn't gotten stolen. Assuming it didn't rust away.
@taunuslunatic404
@taunuslunatic404 Жыл бұрын
Toyota MR2.
@gazzafloss
@gazzafloss Жыл бұрын
Loving these "road less traveled" cars you come up with to review Jack. Keep it up.
@johnireland1629
@johnireland1629 Жыл бұрын
You make me want to drive one. Your Italian roots come to life every time you get behind the wheel of an Italian car. Always a pleasure to ride with you.
@neilwalsh4058
@neilwalsh4058 Жыл бұрын
Had a pre facelift Barchetta for 5 years, absolutely loved its rarity and looks but you're right about the engine. A FIAT/Alfa joint venture and I thought it was its worst feature. Recently bought an MG TF 1.8 for less than a quarter of the price i sold Barchetta for, 2 years ago and to me the much maligned TF is a far better drivers car. Its K-series is quieter, smoother , sounds better , and more rev happy. Not as rare as a Barchetta, not as common as an MX5 but considering their prices and driveability the TF is an all round better package than either of the other two
@eternalextrapolations
@eternalextrapolations Жыл бұрын
Exactly, if the choice is not to be the MX5 then at least trade less reliability for more power.
@neilwalsh4058
@neilwalsh4058 Жыл бұрын
@@Vrefplus10 I beg to differ , Alfa was involved , that means you've to rev the nuts out of it to get anything to happen, Twin Spark is a similarly poor engine. People think because it's Alfa it'll be superb, far from the the case. Lampredi twin cam and FIRE engine are amongst the best engines in the world, because FIAT did them alone.
@johnmoruzzi7236
@johnmoruzzi7236 Жыл бұрын
@@neilwalsh4058Well technically Lancia had a fair bit of input into their Lampredi twin-cam variants….
@neilwalsh4058
@neilwalsh4058 Жыл бұрын
@@johnmoruzzi7236 fair point but Lancia also ruined the reputation of the Lampredi engine when they put a 16v head on for the Thema/Delta and suddenly they started snapping timing belts and doing big end shells. The 8v version in the Croma Turbo didn't seem to suffer those problems ?
@mikesage9544
@mikesage9544 Жыл бұрын
This is the truth from a B owner of 5 years and counting.... Myth No1. Engine is rough and somewhat un Fiat,Lanci,Alfa like. From my experience, this is bolox. Change the cam belt and time the cams properly. Then check twice. Only there after are any further comments vaild. Steer clear of any garage that utters the words,'Do what???' If you can't do the work yourself. The weakest points on the whole car are: the gearbox is slow. rear suspension, pedals and the brakes. Different oil in the 'box, work WITH the suspension and not AGAINST it, mod the pedalbox, Vented discs and Green Stuff sorts the stopping. Good points: Engine, pulls like a 2t on speed to7,200, shell is extremely rigid with no scuttle shake, stearing, no torquesteer, seating and design. Mine is a tarmac terrier. I too looked at a TF as I vividly remember the Needel review. I agree the recipie for the TF ticks a lot of boxes. I would need a saw for my legs as I measure 6'5" Sadly a TF is out for me. FWIW, the Barchetta was never intended to be a sports car. It was intended to be stylish transportation to the beach, cafe or bar. A cheap trinket to be disposed of in a couple of years. Just like a cheap watch. The cat is out of the bag! Safe driving all. Bw Mike.
@sebastiend.5335
@sebastiend.5335 Жыл бұрын
Just typed Number 27 to see if there were any news videos... And there you are!! Amazing! Greetings from the Netherlands
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thanks!
@ajay-xjs
@ajay-xjs Жыл бұрын
Beautiful camera work! As a Brit living in Canada these last 7 years I miss old Blighty, stunning rose tinted scenery behind a car I remember fondly. I had a Laverda 668 Diamante in the same colour, equally flawed compared to Japanese motorcycles but there was a certain something that made it special. On the right evening, on the right roads, on the right pulse, nothing beats that Italian essence. Love this channel, don't ever stop.
@nigelrichardson7607
@nigelrichardson7607 Жыл бұрын
I have 1 of only 5 Fiat Barchetta's registered on the road here in NZ in the original orange launch colour and styling (not the facelift model), which I purchased from the Lotus dealership here in Auckland. It was a 1 owner car out of Japan which Lotus imported into NZ themselves and they effectively restored it. I have other cars but for sheer pleasure and driving enjoyment you cannot beat it, it has personality plus and the kids love going for a drive in it. It turns heads everywhere I go in Auckland it as the locals have no idea what it is, and of course being LHD in a RHD country. It is great bang for your driving buck, anyone worth considering getting one won't be disappointed if you do. Great video Jack!
@jehl1963
@jehl1963 Жыл бұрын
As far as the trailing arms, there is a world of difference between an Air Cooled 911's semi-trailing arms, and a FWD car's trailing arms. The geometries and intent are completely different. For example - trailing arms have no camber gain, unlike semi-trailing arms. Completely different!
@gaffer89
@gaffer89 Жыл бұрын
Had one of these for a few years, used it extensively for autocross and trackdays and won a few class championships in autocross. Never rated them before owning one but surprised a bunch of other competitors in the class. Fitted a proper rollcage which made a nice improvement to the handling.
@stevenr2463
@stevenr2463 Жыл бұрын
Hey great! Thx for this! Loved the Barchetta when it came out. Colour "mandarin" (a kind of orange). Was looking at that and the BMW Z3 (?) at the time, even test drove a Barchetta for two days. Remember saying at the time, if I ever have a daughter thats the car I would get her for passing her driving test. Well my daughter is now 26 and there are no more Barchettas... And back in the days I ended up with a Porsche Boxter (due to career and fortune).
@aaronhan5904
@aaronhan5904 Жыл бұрын
Owned an NA BRG Miata back in Canada then bought a ‘99 pre-facelift for 1700 Euros when I moved to the Netherlands to cure my roadster itch on a student budget. Miraculously it never really had any problems and passed the APK/MOT with flying colours during my 2 year ownership. Even though I loved my Miata more in every way - handling, dynamic, looks, aftermarket support…etc, the barchetta still occupies a special place in my heart. Great handling for backroads, ladies loved it and always want to sat in it, and the engines really comes alive at around 4500 rpm when VVT kicked in, and sounded way better than than 1.6 in the Miata (especially with a hard top). Just remember to change the variator with the cam belt service! I had to sell it when I moved again, and I miss it to this day. I considered getting another one of these again but it really had too little aftermarket parts for me to have even more fun with unfortunately.
@parkecorepersonaltrainingp2601
@parkecorepersonaltrainingp2601 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I did not even know about this car so was great to lean about it. 👍👍Grrat work Jack
@RobertPfaller-nm8pc
@RobertPfaller-nm8pc 3 ай бұрын
The Barchetta is more spacious inside than the Mazda Mx5 MkI (Type NA). For taller people this makes a significant difference. I stand about 6ft 2inches (188cm), and, as opposed to the Mazda, in the Barchetta I was able to see something through the windshield, I had enough room for legs and arms, and my head did not touch the closed roof. The engine was stronger, too. In my country at the time, the standard Mx5 offered 115 hp, whereas the Barchetta had 131. Thank you for taking us for your beautiful drives! I enjoy your comments and your passion for the Italian cars.
@simonforzani2894
@simonforzani2894 3 ай бұрын
I have owned the limited edition Riviera version with a hard top less than 39000 miles since 2006. This is such a reliable and beautiful car, I wanted one from launch and took 2 years to find the perfect one. Owning one is such a privilege ❤
@longtailgt
@longtailgt Жыл бұрын
Such adorable looking cars! I may be in the minority for preferring the facelift, but I do really think it looks quite a bit better than the earlier version, especially the front end, although that third brake light is no doubt an eyesore.
@MrCarrera28
@MrCarrera28 Жыл бұрын
Loving the Italian car content, great to see the pleasure you get from Italian cars and it really comes through to viewers. Would be great if you could get a Fiat Coupe to review. Keep up the great reviews of quirky cars that seem to be forgotten by the mainstream!!
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he did already, if I remember well.
@TheMrFishnDucks
@TheMrFishnDucks 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Very cool car. Thank you for showcasing this car I had no idea it existed. Keep up the good work. Love the design and that yellow colour.
@danieleregoli812
@danieleregoli812 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, che carina!!! Pensare che da ragazzo non mi piaceva per via della trazione anteriore... Ora invece me la farei volentieri una bella Barchetta.. magari arancio, e prima serie!
@MyILoveMinecraft
@MyILoveMinecraft Жыл бұрын
I bought one of those basically to drive it into the ground over winter until the inspection runs out. Now I got some semi slicks on there, new paint and I'm gonna take it to the ring next weekend. That car was just pleasently surprising all around, expected a boring to drive Cabriolet like my mates golf Cabrio 3, yet that thing brings so many smiles per gallon
@lffit
@lffit Жыл бұрын
And Ford Australia did the same thing with the Mazda, making a Ford Capri, which didn't take off very well sales wise, it had serious leak problems with the folding top, when the original Ford Capri we were sad to see it go!
@CathodeRayNipplez
@CathodeRayNipplez Жыл бұрын
Those things were just embarrassing
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 Жыл бұрын
The late 1980s/early 90s Ford Capri was based on the Mazda 323/Ford Laser mechaincals/platform with the body shell designed by Ghia and its internals designed by ItalDesign. The soft top did have problems very early on but was quickly and effectively addressed, however like most of these 'type of issues' they tend to stick like poo to a blanket - irrespective on whether the issue has been competently solved. The car did enjoy some success in the US as it sold 8,000 units during July to Dec 1990 and 22, 000 units in 1991 during it's first full year of sales - after which sales tailed off to 12,600 in 1992 as the Global recession began to bite. The Capri won the prestigious Motorweek TV award for "Best Convertible" in the United States in 1991 and 1992 and sold over 66,000 units over its short production period of 1989 to 1994 which is more than Fiat Barchetta sales over a 10 year period. During the five years it was on sale in Australia, the Capri consistently outsold the Mazda MX5 and was Australia's top-selling convertible.
@nickrichardson1317
@nickrichardson1317 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 2003 Facelift Barchetta for 9 years and love it. Best of all UK Barchetta Owners Club organise wonderful fun long week-ends away and are all good company. The Club is internet based with no annual fees. Members organise meet - ups to drive with others. We have a list of trusted Garages too. I really enjoy having my Barchetta.
@lazgrillo6982
@lazgrillo6982 Жыл бұрын
Always had a soft spot for the little boat. The world needs small cheap fun convertibles or a new X19.
@barryeldridge4771
@barryeldridge4771 Жыл бұрын
Had one in the early 2000’s, great fun! The roof leaked like a sieve… just like a classic roadster 😂
@d-rg.karamitev9796
@d-rg.karamitev9796 Жыл бұрын
I love the Barchetta ❤ And I love your authentic Italian pronunciation Jack ! Despite all the reliability issues the Barchetta is still ten times more fun to drive than the boring MX-5…
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The MX5 is ridiculous overrated.
@winthropthurlow3020
@winthropthurlow3020 Жыл бұрын
I wish we had had these in the States. The MX5 (or, as we called them, Miata) is so ubiquitous as to be unexciting. The rebadged 124 was just that, a rebadge. Ho hum.
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 Жыл бұрын
The 2016 Fiat 124 was not a simple rebadge of an Mazda MX5 (US Miata). The modern Fiat 124 used the MX5 body/chassis, but in place of the Mazda's 2.0 engine was fitted with a Fiat 1.4 litre turbocharged engine with a suitable matched 6-speed gearbox - which provides for a 'different drive'.
@Avrelivs_Gold
@Avrelivs_Gold 5 ай бұрын
This weather really shows what this car is about. Especially in this color. And that steering is what matters here, for small town daily driving, not sliding or racing. This car is much more appealing when all you hear is Miata.
@jesscourt9068
@jesscourt9068 Жыл бұрын
Wow! ,I have one in the same colour, all be it the 1996 version. Had it 8 years now, engine buzzes, gearbox is quiet, just the new floor took me 2 years to re construct. I had Both MX5 and the Barchetta, but for me the Fiat has the sexiest rear end. Great little car, now if i could just get in and out of it like i used to i would keep it.
@manosparavida3551
@manosparavida3551 Жыл бұрын
In 1995 I recall seeing a Fiat Barchetta in Munich airport on an advertising podium and being very impressed with its appearance.
@stephenwarhurst6615
@stephenwarhurst6615 Жыл бұрын
The design styling of the Fiat Barchetta always reminds me of the Goggomobil Dart
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 Жыл бұрын
Can't say I've ever seen one of those on the road 🤔..... Nice looking car but I'd be another sheep if I was in the market for a cheap roadster and buy an mx5... Or an older Boxer. Cracking stuff as always Jack 👍
@codeandroad3020
@codeandroad3020 Жыл бұрын
We went out to buy a Renault Laguna estate but saw a yellow Barchetta outside the Fiat dealer and bought it on the spot. We really loved that car. Took it round France a couple of times. To Scotland a few times. Kept it 2 years but in all that time it never went properly for more than 2 weeks at a time. Just glad that it was under warranty. 4 clutches, new drive shafts, new exhaust and the factory never bolted the fuel tank in place. Useless dealers. It failed in Bank Holiday traffic so we push started it and managed to get to the Fiat dealer in Chesterfield. Traded it for one of the first Abarth Grande Puntos - yes, I know another Fiat - but that ran perfectly for the next 2 years until it got traded for something else.
@adrianmonk4440
@adrianmonk4440 Жыл бұрын
FIAT, the old curses of Quality & Reliability. When you're the GM of Italy without much competition, you keep doing what you do.
@GForceVRX
@GForceVRX Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you’ve been featuring more Fiat’s lately, I tend to have more of a soft spot for them over the Alfa’s
@davyboy888
@davyboy888 Жыл бұрын
Another great vid here Jack. Completely with you on everything.
@russellhammond4373
@russellhammond4373 Жыл бұрын
Australia missed out on these cars as they weren't converted to the 'other' side of the cabin. What a shame as it might have been a decent alternative. Great review,
@atoz3570
@atoz3570 Жыл бұрын
I ve 2. One up for sale and the other's to keep. I bought them on looks and styling alone. Nothing out there for the price comes close. These are works of art. They re modern classics and I'm not bothered whether the Mazda drives better or not as I drive mine for the pleasure and am not in a race. I had 2 Alfa 105s. My daily Punto handles better and better than the original 124 coupes/spiders. On top of which the Barchetta is still relatively affordable.
@bispal
@bispal Жыл бұрын
My brother had one of these when i had an MX5. I always thought it handled quite well and was good fun with a lovely induction bark. A worthy adversary to an MX5
@william-131
@william-131 Жыл бұрын
Always funny to see that the moment you drive through the S-curve you suddenly wear a cap! Great car and the same chassis was used for the 2003 Fulvia coupe reboot.
@eze8970
@eze8970 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jack, a good car for a summers day! Shame it couldn't best the mx5 in many/any areas for you! 🙏🙏
@Frenchcrop
@Frenchcrop Жыл бұрын
Ah man, those rear lights... Along with the Ducati 916 and MV Agusta F4!
@robertsanders9068
@robertsanders9068 Жыл бұрын
Great vid again! - looking for a Barchetta / M100 Elan / MX5/MGB/TVR last year..... ended up with a 986 Boxter - would still love a Barchetta though just for the looks
@martinclapton2724
@martinclapton2724 Жыл бұрын
The reason Fiat gave up on sports cars in the early 1980s , was the advent of the hot hatch. Not only were they becoming fashionable, but from a manufacturing standpoint they are so much cheaper to produce , due the FWD assembly with macpherson strut set up , enabling the complete engine / gearbox/ suspension/ brakes assembly to be installed in one manoeuvre. Not only that but hidden logistics savings in being able to be made on the same production line as their more bread and butter , standard cousins. So the wonderful 124 Spider and X19 sports models were farmed out to their body designers, having their own production facilities. The arrival of the MX5 proved a game changer in the market for a no nonsense, back to basics sports car , much in the traditional way of Lotus Elans , MG Midgets ,and Triumph Spitfires, albeit with improved modern mechanics and production technology. I think it surprised all the motoring pundits at the time, how well it sold. Certainly other manufacturers were quick to follow suit , MGF Lotus Elise , and of course the Fiat Barchetta. Thought this car the prettiest of the lot, at the time . Pity LHD only, and FWD , despite being so good as it was. What also was a pity , was why couldn’t Fiat switch the engine /transmission assembly around , behind the driver to create another X19 !
@mattsansom644
@mattsansom644 Жыл бұрын
Still love the variety of cars! Brilliant stuff
@malcolmhardwick4258
@malcolmhardwick4258 Жыл бұрын
I workedfor Fiat dealership. We used to nickname them the Noodymobile !
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 Жыл бұрын
Interesting how 'little' changed for Fiat between the 124 Spider and the Barchetta: same size, same weight, same power. It would be great if you could get a 124, Jack, and test it back-to-back with this one (or even not back-to-back).
@theblackhand6485
@theblackhand6485 Жыл бұрын
Driving characteristics can be change for the better with a coil over suspension kit from, let's say, Bilstein, KW or similar. Sportier tires will make a big difference too like the Bridgestone Potenza's. These will really help the car performance better due to extra grip on the road. Furthermore, back in the day one could buy a sport exhaust system from Supersprint. All very nice upgrades. It will sure make the car alive.
@alunhoskins4513
@alunhoskins4513 10 ай бұрын
I bought one new when they first came on to the UK market. (P707 TUF) Really enjoyed buzzing around the roads of Sussex. I don't think it's alive any more though. One of the cars I do wish I'd kept. I have a 1970 FIAT 500 now, which is just as much fun in very different ways. As for left hand drive? Other than car park ticket barriers, absolutely no problem at all, ever. Actually, the 500 is so small even the barrier's not a problem😀
@user-uw1sx3xt1e
@user-uw1sx3xt1e Жыл бұрын
It's certainly pretty, but when it comes to the obvious MX5 comparisons ( front-drive / left-hand drive only ) - try finding suspension & engine upgrades, limited slip diff, let alone a roll bar! It is VERY pretty though. Great video - thanks.
@pilier3
@pilier3 3 ай бұрын
Loved mine, a great bit of fun, reliable, swift, no problems, Punto parts, brilliant….
@arthurdardalis
@arthurdardalis Жыл бұрын
Way more preferable to an MX-5, these 1.8’s liven up with a cat back exhaust, a free flow filter in the original airbox and removing that intake resonator
@markpink
@markpink Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for you to drive one! I had one in '96 and loved it as it had the best steering of anything I've owned. Sadly the Fiat dealer curbed it massively when they took it for service and it was never the same after that despite full laser alignment.
@markpink
@markpink Жыл бұрын
The great thing is that it's not that fast (fast enough though) but you could still have a lot of fun in it. Which makes it more relevant today than ever.
@markpink
@markpink Жыл бұрын
Oh and you didn't mention the door handles which were gorgeous and no one else had anything like that at the time!
@bluetitan20
@bluetitan20 Жыл бұрын
@@markpink I thought that as well, I thought I was being a bit weird as the beautifully slight door handle was always a stand out feature whenever I've seen one, which isn't all that often to be fair.
@rudolphbondefangerer5513
@rudolphbondefangerer5513 Жыл бұрын
I dont know if they did something with the engine there, but mine really comes to life at 4500 rpm, its quite lazy below that. So to get this thing moving you really need to move that stick quite a lot, you need to have some power to put in through bends. But thats great. And btw, its a great winter car on snow and ice, just go down on the tires, the original dimension is a bit wide on snow.
@paulsyarduk2045
@paulsyarduk2045 Жыл бұрын
Another good watch Jack, very rare car indeed, as many have already said LHD only didn't help. Looked like a little motor boat to me. It would be interesting to see how you think a well sorted MGTF - Spark edition stacks up against this (I've had 3).
@Eric-Marsh
@Eric-Marsh Жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a yellow Barchetta like the one your're driving. It's a 2002 with 42k miles that I paid €6800 for. I didn't buy it because I want a cutting edge sports car, I bought it for Sunday rides on the Spanish mountain roads and because it's eye catching and a bit unusual. I think that a bit more rebound damping would be nice on the car along with thicker sway bars. But given that my intention has never been to compete I'm fine with the fact that it's not going to beat a Miata or a Boxter. It's an enjoyable car on those Sunday rides and I'm happy with that.
@robertlloyd7493
@robertlloyd7493 Жыл бұрын
A rare car these days.
@namibgtv6
@namibgtv6 Жыл бұрын
My wife has a 2004 facelift in ‘Speed red’ color. It has black leather interior, and was fitted with Novitec sport suspension and Supersprint exhaust. Sounds and handles absolutely fabulous, and would eat an Mx-5 alive around any bend. Basically a very very sexy go-cart..
@howardlake6178
@howardlake6178 Жыл бұрын
Great video! A few were converted to RHD by Bell & Colvill, but not many. They can suffer from rust, but I love the original. So pretty 💚🤍❤
@gazfish
@gazfish Жыл бұрын
The side indicator repeaters are in good company if you watched Tyrell’s Workshop recently
@peterblumbach6600
@peterblumbach6600 Жыл бұрын
I used to drive a Coupe Fiat. Same Punto chassis but handling is so much better. In my case a 20V turbo , was a serious quick car. The fastest Fiat so far.
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 Жыл бұрын
I always fancied one of the 5 cylinder coupes. Perfect looks and epic sounds!
@MrPrajitura
@MrPrajitura 7 ай бұрын
I wonder if the 20V Turbo engine would fit in the Barchetta. that would be a seriously mean roadster
@SkysaxonDragonslayer
@SkysaxonDragonslayer Жыл бұрын
Oh good I love this car! Had a 96 or 97 in the early 2000 with an additional hardtop for winter and drove it all year round in Tyrol in the Austrian mountains… The FWD is in wintertime a big plus to get traction…😇 The only downside of this little gem is the variable valve timing…. it isn’t very relaiable and brook at mine two times … Then the car sounds like a Mercedes Taxi - why this part is in Germany/Austria known as the Diesel part and needs regularly attention… … but all forgiven when you cruise roof open over a snowy mountain pass 😇
@robwienk
@robwienk Жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing this, I’ve always liked the look of the original Barchetta. I’d be curious to know if there are possible upgrades… Having said that, this review made me curious about a comparison or stand-alone review of the Alfa 916 Spider from the same era. Even though I drive a 996, I’d still love a 916 with Busso (and perhaps a few Alfaholics upgrades 😊)
@henriklarsson7835
@henriklarsson7835 Жыл бұрын
Agree, that would be an awesome test. Both cars are really good looking and 2 seaters should be gorgeous to look at!
@rupertorgan7749
@rupertorgan7749 Жыл бұрын
I owned one of the last Maggiora-built cars (with a third brake light on the boot) for two years in the late 2000s. Build quality was better than the Fiat-built cars and it looked prettier. The biggest issue I had was the engine constantly throwing problems at me, in particular a constantly leaking cooling system, which spoilt the overall ownership experience. Ended up P/Xing it for a 916 Alfa GTV V6, which I still own after 14 years.
@Blammoification
@Blammoification Жыл бұрын
I like these shorter 10 min vids. Keep up the good work.
@SteeeveO
@SteeeveO Жыл бұрын
I wish they had continued to develop, or resurrect, the X-19. A mid engined modern mini Ferrari for the masses would have been better than an MX5 copy.
@eddthirty4065
@eddthirty4065 Жыл бұрын
I had the pre-facelift one for 6 years, a silver Grigio SE with a wine red roof and wine red leather interior, bought it in Italy, drove it back from Italy. Most reliable car I've ever had, never let me down, except the VV developed a tappety noise. A stainless steel exhaust released its voice. Drove it all around Europe. Handling and feel not as good as the MX5 of the time. Suspension damping at high speed not too good. Steering is quick, lock to lock. The first owner was Peter Davis. I was the second. Where are you SE 1966?
@gilesusher8191
@gilesusher8191 2 ай бұрын
I had a silver Barchetta with the rare Weissmann hardtop. I had it reupholstered in red Connolly leather with map pockets made in the backs of the seats, the door cards in black Connolly leather also with map pockets (this was all before sat navs). Stupidly I sold it and bought a Rover 45 - one of the most stupid things I ever did. The car handled like a go cart with Wernher von Braun engineering.....
@langheproperty
@langheproperty 3 ай бұрын
I had one and it was fantastic. I always regret selling it and I'm thinking of buying another..
@jgg02
@jgg02 Жыл бұрын
Had a barchetta and loved it, still miss it
@RuperScooper
@RuperScooper Жыл бұрын
I bought a phase 1 of these in black (the best colour imho) new in Dubai. It desperately needed a turbo to make it exciting to drive and the air conditioning was so bad it was like an asthmatic penguin blowing on an ice cube lol. It was fun whilst a novelty but I didn’t regret trading it in for my Golf GTI. But respect to Fiat for stealing a bit of the MX5 slice. 👍
@biggooseadventures
@biggooseadventures Жыл бұрын
Nice video, I wouldn't even call this a competitor to the Mazda Miata
@seanoneillsongs
@seanoneillsongs Жыл бұрын
I always loved the look - the yellow suits it perfectly. I had a 1990 Eunos Roadser and loved it and, while the Fiat and it were similarly priced, i felt the Madza offered more for the money. Mind you, my Mx5 was twelve years old when i bought it and there weren't a lot of used Barcettas around
@sexytasmin
@sexytasmin Жыл бұрын
Hi Jack it looks better than the MX5.
@Lot76CARS
@Lot76CARS Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Jack, I've often wondered what they drive like as they look so good I felt sure their would be a compromise in ride and handling. Great review and another one for my list of ones to own one day!
@lascm5237
@lascm5237 Жыл бұрын
Had one of these whilst living in Sweden in the late 90’s - my brother’s bog standard MGF at the time ran rings around it in every conceivable way - pretty but horrible 😁
@JJHurst
@JJHurst Жыл бұрын
I love these Jack , wanted one for a long while . Nice review and food for thought...
@VolkerHett
@VolkerHett Жыл бұрын
I had two of them from 1995 to 2000. The first one was cursed! All the electric gremlins one would expect in a MG plus Italien rust issues. They never got the anti skid brakes to work and the dealer just disabled the warning light. Thus I ended up in a crash barrier on the Autobahn and ordered another one :) It was a fun car with quite a breaking distance and somewhat overpowered, it wasn't that easy to keep the front wheels from spinning even in second gear.
@patrickhostler5939
@patrickhostler5939 Жыл бұрын
I have an MX5, but always loved the look of those Fiats… very pretty. Unfortunately they never made a RhD version
@2702simmo
@2702simmo Жыл бұрын
The MX5 looks a million times better
@patrickhostler5939
@patrickhostler5939 Жыл бұрын
@@2702simmo i would say the Fiat can hold its own ‘visually’ against the first 3 versions of the MX5… although quality wise the Mazda will be superior
@katywalker8322
@katywalker8322 Жыл бұрын
There ere some conversions made
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickhostler5939 Agree the MX5 is superior in engine, handling, drivetrain and quality - however the Fiat's styling tops the Mazda.
@2702simmo
@2702simmo Жыл бұрын
@@georgebettiol8338 the fiats girlier looking but a I can’t agree it’s better looking than the MX5 particularly mk1
@Riazor1370
@Riazor1370 Жыл бұрын
One of "Pseudo roadster" that failed due to its FWD layout. Other case such fiberglassed Lotus Elan, TT roadster, Mini roadster.
@neilturner6749
@neilturner6749 Жыл бұрын
Haha had to laugh at Audi TT described as a failure - one of the most successful roadsters of all time. Manufacturers build cars to make money, not to satisfy the nuances of the 0.1% buying public who buy cars for their handling finesse. The MX5 sold well in it’s early years NOT because of RWD but because women thought it was cute and men recognised it was cheap and reliable. Now that those type of buyers have long-since moved on and Mazda is stuck with the traditional Lotus problem of making a great-driving car that only enthusiasts like yourself want to buy ie virtually no-one!
@39PSIOnTheDaily
@39PSIOnTheDaily Жыл бұрын
I feel like quite the outlier here from reading all the other comments, but I’ve always found this to be quite a dog in the looks department - something akin to a melted, modern, FWD MGB. That being said, it’s good to see you enjoy it as much as you did!
@Sir-Prizse
@Sir-Prizse Жыл бұрын
If the Barchetta was rear-wheel drive, I would have bought that... instead of the MX-5. But I don't regret it for a second because the MX-5 is such a great (sports) car.
@winstonbunn4624
@winstonbunn4624 11 ай бұрын
Also one of the best made Italian cars of the 1990s
@1183newman
@1183newman Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you drive a reliant scimitar ss1, its a curious roadster i have seen but never seen anyone provide a driving impression of. Often seen in offroad trials for some reason.
@markpink
@markpink Жыл бұрын
I had 2 1800Tis at one point! - One was my car and the other a Unipart company car as we supplied the parts for them. Loved them but they rattled quite a bit even if they did go like stink. I bought mine as it was the quickest 30-70 car I could afford for the Norfolk roads pre-dual carriageway. No weight over the rear wheels and very easy to spin them up. The 1800Ti couldn't cope with even 5mm of snow though unless you had a bag of gravel in the boot, then it was OK!
@chrisphillips554
@chrisphillips554 Жыл бұрын
Had the first generation one of these. Absolutely Loved it. Great fun and stunning looks. Most enjoyable car I ever had. Sold it for a Honda S2000 which was better made, much faster, rear wheel drive and more capable in almost every way. But i didn’t enjoy it nearly as much. The beautiful alloy pop out door handles on the Barchetta would freeze shut in the depths of winter!
@rennwolfwolfgangkriegl
@rennwolfwolfgangkriegl Жыл бұрын
Nice review! I had one of these for a while and really liked it a lot. It does have more driver space than the MX-5. I am 192cm tall with long legs and would not fit into an MX-5, but the Barchetta was fine. 😉
@tommotdk
@tommotdk Жыл бұрын
Jack, you ought to try the new Fiat 124, with exactly the features you miss in the Barchetta: rear wheel drive, right hand steering etc.
@MrPrajitura
@MrPrajitura 7 ай бұрын
Fiat 124, AKA the FIATA. the 124 is literally a re-bodied MX-5
@paulspindler5849
@paulspindler5849 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2000 one of these in Metallic Blue, parked it next to the same age Boxster in London and most people were looking at my car.
@organiccold
@organiccold Жыл бұрын
Really really a great car and reliable, to the point years ago on Top Gear even beat the MX-5
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 Жыл бұрын
An omission from this review is that they were only produced in left hand drive form. Not surprising that they found little traction in the UK.
@marka.2484
@marka.2484 Жыл бұрын
Great video (again). I'd love you to review the closest competitor to the MX-5, the Suzuki Cappuccino. The same ingredients, independent suspension, RWD, but 70% of the size of the MX-5.
@spiremotoring5728
@spiremotoring5728 Жыл бұрын
The 4 cylinder Z3 is another two seat convertible that is slow enough to have a lot of fun with.
@markhealey3831
@markhealey3831 Жыл бұрын
Looks like an Italian mgb I always thought??
@taylorjs2534
@taylorjs2534 Жыл бұрын
Enjoying your reviews, largely because of the great selection of cars. I came close to buying one of these - they are extremely rare here in Canada. Minor distractions for this pedantic viewer - 'so unique'. Unique is all or none. Also, the cut to the ESS's and there's someone else at the wheel... baseball cap disrupted the space-time continuum :-)
@DoubleYouPee1
@DoubleYouPee1 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, very much agree with a lot of what you said, especially regarding the front end which really makes this car a lot of fun to drive - the car gives a lot of feedback and trust. The one thing I disagree on is the engine. While I agree the engine is quite uncharismatic, I thought the same of the 1.8 MX5 (NC), except the MX5 felt a lot weaker low-mid RPM. In the end I preferred the barchetta's engine. Also, while the barchetta's driver area might feels a bit small, there is way more leg room especially for the passenger. The trunk is more practical too. Oh, and it looks way better, especially the 1st gen :)
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