Italy's WW1 Heavy Machine Gun: FIAT-Revelli Modello 1914

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Italy was the first major adopter of the Maxim heavy machine gun and had several hundred by 1914 - but wanted to have a domestic design in production as well. The Italian government and military put a lot of resources into the Perino machine gun, but kept it so secret that it was never properly tested and development was very slow. By the time war broke out, the Perino was clearly not ready for field use - and Maxims (along with other foreign designs) were no longer available for commercial sale as production was being taken up by warring nations. This led Italy to adopt a private design of Bethel Revelli in partnership with the FIAT company.
Adopted as the Modello 1914, Revelli's machine gun was a delayed blowback system with a wedge under mechanical disadvantage holding the bolt closed long enough to safety cycle. Its most unique element was the 50-round mousetrap type box magazine that used 10 independent stacks of 5 rounds each (a 100-round version was also made). This was a very complex magazine to produce, and much more delicate than the other machine gun feed systems in use at the time. The Revelli is also notable for being the only major machine gun of the period to have a circulating water jacket, operated by a small hand-cranked pump on the condensing tank.
The FIAT-Revelli would see service as both and aircraft and ground gun through World War 1, and was updated in 1935 to an air cooled pattern that would serve through World War 2. These guns are very scarce in the United States today, and I am grateful to the collector who owns this one for providing access to it!
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@jayno5122 3 жыл бұрын

Revellli: “Now I just need to figure out the magazine...” *Spots the cheese grater in the kitchen*

@frog7362 3 жыл бұрын

@MrEvan312 Жыл бұрын

Diogenes bursts into the kitchen and grabs the cheese grater as he's thinking this "Behold, a MAGAZINE!"

@la-zrider2749 3 жыл бұрын

Italian government: "So, does this machinegun use clips or magazines?" FIAT: "Yes."

@Ungeboren1988 3 жыл бұрын

Now each magazin would have been filled with a tiny 5 round belt for completion of the "Use all the systems" achievment

@stanleylutherson17 3 жыл бұрын

So...... The true High capacity clipazine?

@falloutghoul1 3 жыл бұрын

Breda, 20 years later:

@NatsuKashi00 3 жыл бұрын

High-capacity harmonica magazines?

@davideb.4290 3 жыл бұрын

That's what they mean when they say "100 clips magazine"

@5anjuro 3 жыл бұрын

Firearms historians: drum magazines are complicated, expensive and unreliable. Italians: nervous smiles and looking away.

@CaptainGrief66 3 жыл бұрын

That magazine is probably more reliable than a Drum, you don't have a single overworked spring nor over stressed feed lips as it's all duplicated.

@z3r0_35 3 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainGrief66 Yeah. The issues are instead related to the feed mechanism.

@randomidiot8142 3 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainGrief66 the over stressed spring and feed lips don't seem like they're the problem, considering other designs that we consider to be reliable today. Poor engineering and metallurgy of the time?

@litenantjv 3 жыл бұрын

@@z3r0_35 the problem it’s similar to the Chauchat’s magazine had : mud, dust, snow were the enemy of this magazine

@z3r0_35 3 жыл бұрын

@@litenantjv That too

@charlesfisher3983 3 жыл бұрын

Italian military: “I see you went closed bolt for increased accuracy” Revelli with his ten pound bolt and gigantic striker assembly: “well...yes but actually...no”

@rasheverak 3 жыл бұрын

Well it certainly wins the “longest bolt” award.

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

That of the Hotchkiss was longer.

@daazs9248 3 жыл бұрын

it doubles as a trench club

@michaelfinnegan4301 3 жыл бұрын

Well then, that makes two of us! 😁

@jimmykool3253 3 жыл бұрын

It’s not about the length is how you use it lol

@Seb-Storm 3 жыл бұрын

I remember there was this upscaled gun like 37mm which bolt was really big like a giant bullet

@spider_sf 3 жыл бұрын

4:26 "Revelli designed this himself, possibly under the influence of something" Must have been some good stuff to come up with that calamity of a magazine.

@Rico_71 3 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing several bottles of red wine were involved. As an italian most crazy ideas come up with that "method"

@CaptainGrief66 3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't call it a calamity since it worked.

@charlesadams1721 3 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainGrief66 It seems that there was a general idea that not only the Italians, but the French with the Hotckiss and the Japanese with the Hotchiss derivatives and others to try alternates to the problematic cloth belts. At the level of industrial development of the day, disintegrating link belts while known in concept were not really an option. Ian has previously spoken about the numerous problems with cloth belts, so it is natural that designers would come up with options to resolve the issues. BTW, the idea of box magazines had been known and successfully executed by Lee in the United States since the mid to late 1800s, but again the level of industrial technology and production pretty much made the idea of the production of thousands or millions of reliable disposable magazines almost as much of an technological undertaking as many firearms. Note that inially the British Lee-Enfield chained the magazine to the rifle. In the case of Italian machine guns there were several other designs that took great pains to find alternatives to use of belts, such as the expansion on the idea of stripper clips and feed strips. See the various Breda machine guns of WWII.

@Marcellogo 3 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainGrief66 And it worked well as it allowed to put a clip after the other. When the metallic belts became finally available they changed it into the model 35, with air cooled barrel and 8 mm ammo.

@TheAssassin409 3 жыл бұрын

if it works, it aint stupid

@anoninunen 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the legendary 20-stack, 20-feed magazine. The simplest method.

@CaptainGrief66 3 жыл бұрын

Magazines were unreliable or limited and cumbersome, this was a perfect solution.

@UTubeHandlesSuck 3 жыл бұрын

@Co S Well, the 100-round did have 20 stacks of 5.

@cnlbenmc 3 жыл бұрын

So now we know where the inspiration for the Bastard SMG from Metro 2033 comes from.

@micahdadbeh5955 3 жыл бұрын

@@cnlbenmc I kind of seeing it being more based on a Sten being matched with a clip system

@Bustin_cider00 3 жыл бұрын

@@cnlbenmc that was inspired by the Hotchkiss M1909 Benét-Mercié machine gun

@allensteiner1 3 жыл бұрын

And suddenly a well known sentence: 'My Fiat is overheating' changes in meaning a bit.

@Rico_71 3 жыл бұрын

I'm keeping this in mind when driving my '71 fiat500... i'll be chuckling the whole drive lol

@gestaposantaclaus 3 жыл бұрын

@@Rico_71 I have a FIAT sportster, *it is* an Italian sports car, shuddup!

@Rico_71 3 жыл бұрын

@@gestaposantaclaus is it the 124 convertible? That's actually a lovely, fun car

@dionjaywoollaston1349 3 жыл бұрын

I thought fiat’s were well known for their reliability?

@wumao6885 3 жыл бұрын

@@dionjaywoollaston1349 they're reliably unreliable.

@francocalini641 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ian, I'm so happy you made this video on my Granpa machinegun ! he was a young captain in WWI, heading a company of "mitraglieri" - machine-gunners - from the Volturno regiment, at the Solstice Battle on river Piave, around June 20th, 1918, and these were his guns ! He ended up being hit by a german Schwarzlose that "chewed up" his right arm, 11 bullets in it.He fell out of tne machin-gun nest into river Piave, where he was collected later that night by 2 Alpenjagers and sent to a german hospital, and from there to a POW camp on Balaton lake in Hungary, where an hingarian surgeon saved his right arm from gangrene... Thanks, really ! Franco

@liammeech3702 3 жыл бұрын

Did he use a Villar perosa?

@francocalini641 3 жыл бұрын

@@liammeech3702 no, by far Fiat Mod. 1914 was THE heavy machine-gun, mainly used on tripods in fixed positions - remember, WW1 in Italy was a "static" war, not just in the plain, but also on the Alps - the front was up to 3000 m and above...

@rickt7425 3 жыл бұрын

Unbelievable, my grandfather also commanded a mitr’ squad as a maresciallo in WWI seeing active service in the alps. I’ve a photo somewhere

@rickt7425 3 жыл бұрын

found the photo and with a little research the machine guns are the French St. Étienne Mle 1907

@LifeisGood762 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, what a story. Thanks for sharing.

@MadNumForce 3 жыл бұрын

That "TORINO" happens only once in a decade. I feel so lucky to have witnessed it.

@HaNNibal97smiTH 3 жыл бұрын

that was hilarious

@marcoscuradofilho8224 3 жыл бұрын

Wish I could like two times just because of that TORINO

@matteoberlingieri30 3 жыл бұрын

@@HaNNibal97smiTH Compaesano.... Ti saluto da Ivrea

@Heidegaff 3 жыл бұрын

Ian: "Bwonjorno" Me: *Brad Pitt speaking italian flashbacks*

@benhasselbring1205 3 жыл бұрын

Uhreevurderchee

@Ogrethephreak 3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I was thinking.

@juanordonezgalban2278 3 жыл бұрын

That scene is hilarious

@minhducnguyen9276 2 жыл бұрын

Maghareetee

@Derrick_Campana 3 жыл бұрын

So instead of just stealing the maxim's design, FIAT just huffed glue for a few hours and built a gun out of legos.

@CaptainGrief66 3 жыл бұрын

And it worked perfectly well and wasn't stupidly complicated.

@Derrick_Campana 3 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainGrief66 That's cause they used legos and not mega blocks

@kameronjones7139 3 жыл бұрын

@Frank Bear he said what he said

@kameronjones7139 3 жыл бұрын

@Frank Bear oh you are one of those types of people....

@Cacowninja 3 жыл бұрын

This was before legos were even invented lol.

@tocsa120ls 3 жыл бұрын

The M1 Garand clip makes a nice *ding* when ejected. I expect this mousetrap to make a chord. Or possibly the sound of me dropping my toolbag.

@lukaszpokoju 3 жыл бұрын

Ah the Fiat Revellis ! The "Jackhammer bolt" series of machine-gun.

@philips.5563 3 жыл бұрын

Having a decent mustache forgives a lot of mistakes when speaking Italian.

@blackidna 3 жыл бұрын

Scusi, bada de bupi?

@alvarohernani6645 3 жыл бұрын

@@blackidna Peter, what are you doing?

@jakerubino3233 3 жыл бұрын

You have it wrong, that’s the French you think of. For us Italians, it only requires liberal hand emphasis!

@jeroylenkins1745 3 жыл бұрын

Italian is 40% gestures and facial expressions anyway.

@jakerubino3233 3 жыл бұрын

@Graham Stewart have you seen how narrow the streets are there, understandably lol. Glad my family emigrated to the land of wide lanes and kangaroos

@joey243win 3 жыл бұрын

Italian machine gun Corp collar badges actually showed if you were a fiat or maxim gunner Grazie gun guru

@sakelaine2953 3 жыл бұрын

That's very cool

@huasohvac 3 жыл бұрын

Of course they did. Leave it to the Italians to make it a fashion statement denoting what gun you crew

@TurtleStranger 3 жыл бұрын

I like it

@joey243win 3 жыл бұрын

@@womble321 was a ww1 weapon only pretty much ....just snow and ice there

@joey243win 3 жыл бұрын

@@huasohvac uniforms by Versace lol

@douro20 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, FIAT made guns. They also made tanks, missiles, aircraft, aircraft engines and advanced aerospace components (the aerospace business is now Avio SpA).

@pkre707 7 ай бұрын

FIAT was to Italy what Samsung is to South Korea.

@calvingreene90 3 жыл бұрын

You got to give him credit for solving the problem with sealing the barrel to the water jacket connection when the gun was firing.

@inconel7185 3 жыл бұрын

"Oh, that's not smoke, it's steam. Steam from the FIAT Revellis we're having."

@BROTRRer 3 жыл бұрын

I thought we were having Maxims

@inconel7185 3 жыл бұрын

Oh no no no, Revellis, it's a North-italian dialect.

@philllax1719 3 жыл бұрын

In this part of the country?

@inconel7185 3 жыл бұрын

At this part of the war?

@ulvschmidt7174 3 жыл бұрын

@@inconel7185 localised entirely toothe italian automitive plant in torino

@davidcool5189 3 жыл бұрын

Taking box magazines to a whole new level.

@nonamesplease6288 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, we're probably gonna be fighting in the Alps, so let's invent a totally unique, untested block magazine! Si, si!

@Ashfielder 3 жыл бұрын

Not a box magazine, a box of magazines

@UTubeHandlesSuck 3 жыл бұрын

@@Ashfielder Wouldn't that be the case he showed, a box of blocks?

@skyflier8955 3 жыл бұрын

Not box magazines, crate magazines.

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

@@nonamesplease6288 There were tested 50 rounds magazines at the time?

@rotwang2000 3 жыл бұрын

Ah, when guns had more parts than a movie based on Tolstoy.

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

This MG has very few parts actually, even by modern standards. They are big. Like any industrial tool design of the time.

@juhomaki-petaja 3 жыл бұрын

I think this has pretty few parts. And design is kind clever.

@theofficialsikris 3 жыл бұрын

@@juhomaki-petaja Clever maybe, but it doesn't disguise the fact that this thing is a kludge.

@juhomaki-petaja 3 жыл бұрын

@@theofficialsikris Yes but it is 100y system.

@gjgaming2133 3 жыл бұрын

Im not here for guns; I'm here for Ian's italian pronunciation

@hitmonkey2984 3 жыл бұрын

One's informative, they're both entertaining

@tommyvega7948 3 жыл бұрын

His Italian pronunciation is pretty good, he does his research. For example he pronounces Franchi and Brescia correctly, where most English speakers would get them wrong

@gjgaming2133 3 жыл бұрын

@@tommyvega7948 yea i was surprised! He did a not bad job

@StempiaProductions 3 жыл бұрын

I still remember the "moscietto 91" 😅

@gjgaming2133 3 жыл бұрын

@@StempiaProductions that was a classic. Felt closer to my heritage in that video

@dragonbutt 3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely adore that magazine design. Its like the idea of belts just completely baffled them but the wine cases they had in the design room helped them out. No belts. No drums. Cases. Because shells and wine bottles are pretty similar.

@buwaya4223 3 жыл бұрын

This has to go to C&Rsenal. Probably needs work though.

@LukeBunyip 3 жыл бұрын

Nella tana del coniglio andiamo!

@moosemaimer 3 жыл бұрын

Poor Bruno.

@bigredjeepyj3436 3 жыл бұрын

I second this.

@MD-gb2nf 3 жыл бұрын

finaly I understand how this meme of a clipazine works, thank you

@lovecraftcat 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, not too dissimilar to an assault glockazine

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLmngdSnusC3h2w.html 3D working

@magnusiversen4759 3 жыл бұрын

I hope Othais and Mae at C&Rsenal will get their hands on this.

@jakraziel 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed this thing has to have a heck of a story.

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

They have yet to upload the clip on the Villar-Perosa despite Othais literally snatched the gun from Ian's hands more than a year ago, so I'm not holding my breath.

@joemontgomery6658 3 жыл бұрын

Neutron Alchemist I’m sure there’s a pretty large back log

@SearTrip 3 жыл бұрын

@@neutronalchemist3241 He has to be able to get to another Villar Perosa for disassembly to make the episode. They were only able to fire the one very briefly at the auction house.

@Justicearian 3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure what happened to their page. I visited to look for this MG, and (while they still have some Italian guns) I can't find their Italian playlist.

3 жыл бұрын

My great grandfather earned a silver medal of valor with one of these at the pass of Montello.

@roelkomduur8073 6 ай бұрын

Probably for loading this gun...

@jaimieoxford8212 3 жыл бұрын

To help with your Italian, when you see a double consonant the double L in Revelli you pronounce it with emphasis on the vowel before the double consonant and the double consonant is longer eg. re vELLi. Similar to stressing consonants in English. Hope this helps keep it up, great work !!!!

@Ashfielder 3 жыл бұрын

If battles were determined by the coolness of either side’s weapons, Italy wouldn’t have had to do battle on the Isonzo so many times.

@universal1014 3 жыл бұрын

Yea because the Austro Hungarians would have won the first time

@carta8399 3 жыл бұрын

@@universal1014 But they lost in Vittorio Veneto in the end, so: "il Piave mormorava....."

@federicorampin3300 3 жыл бұрын

@@carta8399 il piave lo straniero non lo ha attraversato

@carta8399 3 жыл бұрын

@@federicorampin3300 precisamente

@arkadeepkundu4729 3 жыл бұрын

_Wait, let me get my 1914 vintage Fiat out of the garage._ *Wow, that must be a really expensive car?* _Haha, yes. Car_

@benjitruth8101 3 жыл бұрын

This is one of the coolest guns mechanically ive ever watched you disassemble. Thanks for bringing it to us

@HalfLifeExpert1 Жыл бұрын

The just released game Isonzo brought me here. I used this in my first play session and wondered "What the hell kind of feed system is this?". I at first I thought it was just 5x 10 cartridge strips on top of each other. Now that I know, wow, just wow.

@varietywiarrior Жыл бұрын

Isonzo gang

@julesdauphin2946 3 жыл бұрын

italy: its top secret the enemy cannot find out about it" *Is never used in battle because it is top secret*

@ChristianMcAngus 3 жыл бұрын

The French had a similar problem with the Mitralleause in the Franco-Prussian War. At same point, secrecy becomes counter-productive.

@andrewallason4530 3 жыл бұрын

And the seppos with the stabiliser on the Sherman tank. SOOO Top Secret that we can’t even train the gunner how to use it, so nobody ever did ( apart from the Brits) , which then stuffed up the potential for it to have been one on the most effective and accurate tank guns in WW2

@jean-lucpicard3012 3 жыл бұрын

You see... If by some ill-gotten means I got my hands on one I'd have to mount it on a fiat 500

@seculartapes 3 жыл бұрын

A lambretta with a side car!

@newperve 3 жыл бұрын

@Hydin Biden Drive offensively!

@elloo98 3 жыл бұрын

Just make shure that it's one of the original 500's with the canvas roof. Just because you have a pintle-mounted machine gun on your car doesn't mean that you have to live with a huge hole in the roof.

@thatoneguy22 3 жыл бұрын

It is absolutely insane to see how exquisitely this entire gun is machined. From the action cover, the bolt, the barrel/locking block assembly, all the little details that are so intricately made. All done on manual machines, one step at a time, across a factory's battery of machine tools. I love it.

@vos2693 7 ай бұрын

Looks like it was inspired by Mauser C96

@KomradeLeonski 3 жыл бұрын

Why do I get a feeling Othais and Mae are lined up next to do a video with the gun?

@umjackd 3 жыл бұрын

I hope so!

@joey243win 3 жыл бұрын

Please!!!!

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

They have yet to upload the one on the Villar-Perosa despite Othais literally snatched the gun from Ian's hands more than a year ago, so I'm not holding my breath.

@seculartapes 3 жыл бұрын

Was just thinking the same thing!

@nonamesplease6288 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, let's get it in the whitebox.

@gestaposantaclaus 3 жыл бұрын

I wanna put this on my Fiat. Greatest technical ever.

@exoticnerf7323 3 жыл бұрын

That thing probably weighs half of a fiat 500 including ammo, water and water cooling system.

@kawbmxful 3 жыл бұрын

You could prolly get away with the 500L Crossover

@jakerubino3233 3 жыл бұрын

124 would be perfect 😉

@masterimbecile 3 жыл бұрын

Mama mia that's the most Italian thing ever. All it needs now is firing spaghetti out the front.

@williestyle35 3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't fiat still make commercial trucks?

@zacharyrollick6169 2 жыл бұрын

This is actually impressively rugged and simplistic for the era. I'm almost confident that I could detail strip and reassemble it without instructions.

@ulissedazante5748 Ай бұрын

Here in Italy there is an old movie with an officer explaining the basic use of the FIAT-Revelli in Sicilian dialect to recruits that barely understand Italian and don't know how to read a manual. The scene was inspired by true stories, in the poor and still largely underschooled Italy just 55 years from unification.

@CaptainGrief66 3 жыл бұрын

A very underappreciated weapon for how good it actually was, it earned the nickname "La Gloriosa 1914", it was by far one of the simpler, most cost effective and user friendly Machine Guns of the period alongside the Hotchkiss M1914, plus the FIAT-Revelli was easily serviceable if problems occured, the water circulation system is a really cool touch. Also I love how these things look and operate, it's unique.

@lucacali8423 3 жыл бұрын

Caro OtakuComrade, dopo anni di visione dei video di Ian apprezzo la tua fedeltà nel commentare positivamente le nostre armi. È sempre un piacere.

@CaptainGrief66 3 жыл бұрын

@@lucacali8423 Il piacere è il mio, se c'è credito da dare ai progettisti è il caso di farlo

@lucacali8423 3 жыл бұрын

@@zoiders tell me seriously what would be the problem with that gun. The only that I can truly be worried of is the lenght and exposure of the bolt, that can be gunked stuck in with debris. Otherwise, it appears slimmer than a Maxim and the loading system, altough strange, isnt actually prone to malfunction, at least at the same level as of a ammo belt made out of fucking cloth

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

@@zoiders Are you abvle to point out any real problem with this design?

@CaptainGrief66 3 жыл бұрын

@@zoiders Everyone clearly hasn't taken an honest look at the amount of parts, pins, machined screws and leaf springs inside a common Maxim gun, if you compare them honestly, you'll see how much more sensible the Revelli is. It has a delaying system and operates like a more modern weapon, a Maxim on the other hand has a rotating sprocket with gears and levers to index the belts, the bolt has action levers and a sliding interface that picks casings from the belts and pushed them to the chamber simultaneously while also laying spent shells on the ejection chute on some models, even the trigger is a mess of levers on those guns, not to mention how maxims have both locking blocks and are toggle locked.

@epluribusunum5318 3 жыл бұрын

This is actually no where near as complicated as I thought it would be. For a WW1 machine gun that's surprising.

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

Mind that's a scaled up action originally made for a pistol (the will-be Glisenti 1910), and it's still used on the FN Fifty-seven and Ruger 57.

@ogscarl3t375 3 жыл бұрын

I am honestly so fascinated by Italy in world war 1 such a unique and interesting military during that time period and the guns they used are nothing short of good looking or pretty slick.

@hendriktonisson2915 3 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@mechonicdapais5730 6 ай бұрын

There was still piedmontese military tradition in that

@benson7748 3 жыл бұрын

"in scioltezza" like we say in italy

@marcozampa9374 3 жыл бұрын

Nel chilling proprio

@AshleyPomeroy 3 жыл бұрын

Il treno regionale.

@Beanie-Sandals 3 жыл бұрын

Arrivederci!

@chapiit08 3 жыл бұрын

Mamma, prendo la FIAT... Ritorni per pranzo?

@benson7748 3 жыл бұрын

Ho la Sig Sauer che fa fuoco power

@DementiaGaming69420 Ай бұрын

I love how Ian says “Bonjourno” like Lieutenant Aldo Raine when he talks about Italian weapons.

@hendriktonisson2915 3 жыл бұрын

Finally a more in-depth video on this unique and iconic Italian machine gun! To my knowledge this is the only video on the web that shows the disassembly of the FIAT-Revelli M1914.

@Sh-epard 3 жыл бұрын

Buongiorno to you, Gun Jesus!🇮🇹

@derekbowbrick6233 3 жыл бұрын

So that pressure valve is just a built in espresso maker.

@aciddream2866 3 жыл бұрын

Ur joking but it might have been done.

@terry7907 3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean “just”?

@lubossoltes321 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, that magazine system is amazing ... there's nothing preventing the system to work with larger or smaller magazines other than weight ....

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

Actually there was no real problem with the 100 rds magazines. They were not used on the field because they had no real advantages (while a damaged magazine meant to discard 100 rounds instead of only 50). Even a 200 rds circular magazine was experimented for aerial use. i1.wp.com/www.forgottenweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Fiat-magazine.jpg?resize=1024%2C567&ssl=1

@andremonta2004 3 жыл бұрын

I waited for my Entire Life for a video of the Revelli machine gun review by you THANK YOU SO MUCH❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@hendriktonisson2915 3 жыл бұрын

I know what you mean. There's not too many information available on the web about the Italian machine guns of the World Wars.

@merpius 3 жыл бұрын

The mechanism for this is pretty beautiful. I don't think anyone would want to be in the mud fighting with it, but it is beautiful.

@allensteiner1 3 жыл бұрын

'I heard you like box magazines so we put a box magazine in your box magazine'

@Ethnarches 3 жыл бұрын

Always great to see videos on Italian small arms as my father is Italian and they made some interesting and different firearms like this one. I didn't realize before how different it is to the other HMGs, as on the outside it looks similar to all of the other water cooled HMGs.

@kevinoliver3083 11 ай бұрын

The FIAT-Revelli M1914 was the Italian standard issue machine gun in WW1. But it was far from the only one they used. There were probably as many Colt "Potato Digger", Vickers 'C', and St. Étienne Mle 1907 (in 8mm Lebel) machine guns in service as the M1914.

@Arkeo36 3 жыл бұрын

The amount of creativity and ingenuity on display in these early 20th century weapons (and other machines too) is frankly incredible. Can you imagine how smart these guys were compared to the average person, then or nowadays? I think it would take a NASA spacecraft engineer to come close today in terms of the innovation needed just to make the finished product.

@hendriktonisson2915 3 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@parabellum_arms 3 жыл бұрын

It seems like a giant Glisenti both in terms of how it operates and how that action is assembled.

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

The designer is the same infact.

@gregoryfilin8040 3 жыл бұрын

Since its the same designer, I'm not surprised. I AM surprised by how sturdy it looks.

@nou1178 3 жыл бұрын

Another cool piece of history! It's always interesting to see such examples of early mass production machine-guns. Also, your Italian isn't as bad as you think, Ian; just a bit rugged. Great job!

@shreks_loins3963 3 жыл бұрын

That would be a nightmare to field clean, especially considering how the bolt is essentially open to the elements, the magazine thing is filled with openings for dirt and grime and just how over complicated this damn thing is. All of that aside, this weapon is essentially a piece of art. I cannot imagine how much this thing would cost to machine and produce today.

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

Actually that action is simple even by modern standards (it's a scaled up pistol action, still used in the FN Fiftyseven and Ruger 57). In WWI only the Hotchkiss was simpler. The magazine is actually cleaner than a cloth belt and, as any magazine, it doesn't actually enter into the gun. The bolt only picks up the top cartridge.

@bigredjeepyj3436 3 жыл бұрын

I genuinely did not want this episode to end. Great story and explanation. Thanks, Ian.

@joseromo8971 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve wondered about these. Thanks Ian!!

@adamdubin1276 3 жыл бұрын

I know Othias at C&Rsenal has been wanting to get one of those for demonstration purposes for a while now... hopefully when things calm down a bit he can get one and the rest of us can get an even more in depth look at the history of this thing. The Revelli Modello 1914 and the St. Etienne Mle 1907 are two of my favorites if only for the oddity of their design.

@SaucyAlfredo 3 жыл бұрын

The mythical “Clipazine”

@XMarkxyz 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, this must be rare outside of Italy; would be nice to see it shooting. Fun fact: the original manual recommends to lubricate with olive oil, which is the most italian thing I could think of, and I'm Italian p.s.: you forgot a double l in "modello"

@jobnoy 3 жыл бұрын

Love the engineering on this one, weird or not it is certainly well made and very cool.

@broomhandle3700 3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly the kind of mechanical ingenuity/absurdity that draws me to these old guns. I'm quite envious of you, Ian, for being able to handle and "explore" these old pieces. You really do have my dream job.

@randomidiot8142 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like they offered a reward for using a bayonet as a firing pin.

@hosank 3 жыл бұрын

3:05 “I want to talk about it’s quirky features” - me waiting to hear he Doug score on this gun

@anan0moose 3 жыл бұрын

The out of battery safety also appears to double as the auto-sear.

@wraithwyvern528 3 жыл бұрын

I believe AKs and SVDs also have a similar dual nature thing which also led to import issues with SVDs when ATF thought that the out battery safeties on SVDs were auto sears or something like that, I think Ian has a video on that

@reapersteelwolf4327 3 жыл бұрын

Hey wanted to say love your videos and I especially enjoy the ones were you review weird and unique guns like this, I wish I had you job it looks awesome.

@timcampbell4338 3 жыл бұрын

You know it’s Italian when it’s been 6 minutes and we’re still talking about the magazine

@anto427 3 жыл бұрын

Here we are from italy at forgotten weapons! greatings!

@cannonfodder4376 3 жыл бұрын

This thing has Steam Punk written all over it with its external reciprocating bolt and magazine design. Different enough to be quirky and cool. Hopefully Othais and Mae at C&Rsenal will get to this Machine Gun soon. Would be interesting to get the full story and a shooting segment on this weapon.

@CaptainGrief66 3 жыл бұрын

These look amazing, also very reliable

@fabiopalazzi5044 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm Fabio from Italy, thank you for your videos! I'm passioned in WW1 history, in particular on Italian Front. I want to tell you a true story about Fiat Revelli M14 machine gun. The most loved President of Italian Republic of our history was Sandro Pertini. Pertini was a boy during WW1 and served in Italian Army with the rank of second lieutenant of FIAT machine gunners. He was promoted lieutenant, wounded by gases and decorated by silver medal for an action on Bainsizza sector. After WW1, Pertini was agains Fascism and suffered in jail during the fascist dictature. Only a lot of year after WW2, Pertini became President of Italian Republic (when I was a child, in the '80). He was a very old and respected man. During a visit to the Italian military mission in Lebanon, a non-Italian machine gun fired a burst. Security was alarmed by the President's safety, but he calmly replied: "Don't worry, I was a machine gunner during the war". The war was WW1 and the Pertini's weapon was a Fiat Revelli M14. In a book I red that Pertini told: "FIAT makes excellent cars but very bad machine guns".

@mf1ve 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fascinating! Thank you so much for bringing this to us.

@tonyneo6100 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you , good to see it for real. vbbsmyt has very good animations of this gun.

@toiletpapermerchant9310 3 жыл бұрын

Doug DeMuro: "Did someone say quirky features?"

@hendriktonisson2915 3 жыл бұрын

Last year Ian even started some video similarly do Doug saying: "This is a ....". Unfortunately I can not remember what exact video that was.

@terranempire2 3 жыл бұрын

Doug is the kinda guy to get referenced in Gun Jesus videos.

@MARK-gp9hb 5 ай бұрын

Fun fact, this feed mechanism was put on a RIFLE too, the experimental MAF 1921 or Tipo Terni 1921. Another version had a detachable box magazine. The need was for a weapon that could bridge the gap between a rifle and an SMG, the same idea that decades later would give birth to the assault rifle.

@nicolatesla9429 3 жыл бұрын

Type 11 LMG: "I have a very unusual feed system!" FIAT-Revelli Mod.14: "Hold my Amaretto..."

@PsychoDad89 3 жыл бұрын

Revelli while developing the gun: We're gonna need a bigger bolt

@ethanjensen6802 3 жыл бұрын

I live and breathe for 'Inglorius Bastards' references like that intro

@johncashwell1024 3 жыл бұрын

Now that is a fascinating forgotten weapon! From the mousetrap box magazine to the delaying mechanism, everything about this weapon is unique, to say the least.

@tian320i 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian. That was a great review

@kcirtapecreip4155 3 жыл бұрын

Coolest magazine ever.

@danieliussupienis9703 3 жыл бұрын

It's like taking a "mag-clip" concept too seriously.😆

@littlekingtrashmouth9219 3 жыл бұрын

That’s a nice looking telescope.

@marklohebany228 3 жыл бұрын

Are you dumb? It's oven

@stevebell5231 3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha. I wouldn't be to keen to look through it tho lol

@nicholasstilley2370 3 жыл бұрын

Magnifico gallileo

@stephanl1983 3 жыл бұрын

The Italians want to buy the Maxim for their Navy. But they want to know if it wouldn't rust in a salty environment. So Hiram Maxim threw one of his Maxim Guns into the harbor of Tarent, recover it after three days, wiped it dry, and fired a some hundred rounds without a failure, the Italian were excited!

@GCJT1949 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation! Thank you. Geoff Who is amazed by mechanical designs.

@Hanley209 3 жыл бұрын

Loved this one. Never even thought about Italian heavy mg, thought they just used maxims like the rest. Fascinating 😁

@kevintang5473 3 жыл бұрын

This seems a lot simpler and cost-effective than most other machine guns in ww1. The delaying mechanism doesn't generate a whole lot of confidence though, since there isn't much locking down by moment of inertia like roller or lever delay, just extra spring tension. Although I suppose the relatively underpowered nature of the Italian 6.5 and the heavy bolt enables it to run reliably enough?

@neutronalchemist3241 2 жыл бұрын

It's a short recoil mechanism. The barrel and bolt are linked by a solid piece of metal. There's no power of the cartridge that can squash the locking block and unlock the mechanism in advance.

@kevintang5473 2 жыл бұрын

@@neutronalchemist3241 True. I rewatched it and find myself wrongly interpreting Ian's words on 12:46, which mislead me to believe that the bolt is locked by a lever-amplified spring tension from the wedge. Thank you for correcting me.

@neutronalchemist3241 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevintang5473 You are welcome. There's a great animation of the working of this gun. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLmngdSnusC3h2w.html

@TaxiServiceMods 3 жыл бұрын

LMAO the hand gesturing really drives the point home. lots of love from italy

@Ealsante 3 жыл бұрын

You know your design is bananas when Ian stumbles when even trying to describe it.

@user-qf6yt3id3w 3 жыл бұрын

Look how the chest has leather patches over the few blocks to stop them rattling. Amazing attention to detail for what must have been a very rushed weapon.

@umbertopestarini3210 3 жыл бұрын

I'm watching this while waiting for the spaghetti to cook, great video as always! From an italian fan.

@dadovitchnic 3 жыл бұрын

That open magazine and bolt combo would have been a nightmare of stoppages in the trenches.

@neutronalchemist3241 3 жыл бұрын

Really not. You can very well open the inspection window and throw a handful of mud directly into it. It will probably keep on going like never happened. WWI HMGs were like the heavy industrial tools of the time. Massively overbuilt and stupidly reliable. There was very little than dirt, mud, ice or wear could do to them. dirt had all the space of the world to go without locking the surfaces, and the inertia of the parts was so big that they were self-cleaning in their movement.

@timelliott6036 3 жыл бұрын

Always enlightening! Thank you!

@flyingninja1234 3 жыл бұрын

I first thought, that’s a really nifty ammunition feeding system. I then thought that is not a good idea for muddy trench warfare.

@Marcellogo 3 жыл бұрын

No, it was actually better than CLOTH belts. They were kept in a wooden box until use so they came in clean. It worked and that was a catastrofe in longer term as it made them keep on with similar solution in WWII when they were totally outdated.

@flyingninja1234 3 жыл бұрын

@@Marcellogo I see.

@seanhall8686 3 жыл бұрын

@@Marcellogo "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" does have its drawbacks.

@markusbecker1870 3 жыл бұрын

It was also starring in Louis Trenker's "Berge in Flammen" as the automatic weapon of the Alpini.

@therugburnz 3 жыл бұрын

The engineering on that particular weapon is interesting but now not forgotten. History and I thanx you Ian.

@DeNihility 3 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this one a long time.

@ClaudioLoc 3 жыл бұрын

*Ian disassembles the FIAT Ravelli* Gun owner “Ian re-assembly the gun, we’re gonna sell it” Ian “Arrivederci”

@miticmancho2560 3 жыл бұрын

As italian i loved the "Torino hand gestures" Love you gun Jesus ❤️

@ale00vable 3 жыл бұрын

Quel "Toriiiino" quel maledetto "Toriiiinooh"

@hendriktonisson2915 3 жыл бұрын

Greetings to Italians from Estonia. I love the Italians. Very good and beautiful people and they make the best food in the World.

@HaNNibal97smiTH 3 жыл бұрын

Ho riso per cinque minuti

@ale00vable 3 жыл бұрын

@@hendriktonisson2915 thank you bro

@stoneylonesome4062 3 жыл бұрын

Hello to italy from Albania 🇦🇱 we still have some of these guns in my country

@comiketiger 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting design! Thanks much. I learn so much on here.

@redsierra8631 3 жыл бұрын

vary cool I got to see an ww 1 italian MG thank you and all the people that helped