Iván Fischer about Gustav Mahler

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13 жыл бұрын

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@sesanner 12 жыл бұрын

It seems an almost sacred privilege to listen to these two men, I was mesmerized. They, and Gustav Mahler, are wonderfully beautiful humans. Many, many lessons shared in this 15:02 conversation. Thanks, Vrijegeluiden.

@dirkhonders2009 10 жыл бұрын

Ivan Fischer is so honest and personal.

@edina2010 11 жыл бұрын

MOST FANTASTIC INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!THANK GOD FOR PEOPLE LIKE IVAN FISHER!!!!!!!!

@adriverschoor4975 4 жыл бұрын

Ivan Fisher spreekt Nederlands!!! Pléase maak hém de nieuwe Chef van het Concertgebouworkest,!!!!!

@valleybrook 10 жыл бұрын

Brilliant interview about Mahler and his music. Thanks for sharing!

@bartviolator.4377 5 жыл бұрын

With this interview i discovered Ivan Fischer on tv back in the days.. I always come back here.. I love all his interviews. Such a funny and calming man. It gives me a laugh and makes me relax. Thx Ivan & Melchior.

@merxeddie6474 4 жыл бұрын

One can feel his commitment,enthusiasm and emotional connection to the composer.Thanks for these interviews,getting out by box of Jochum

@vilebrequin6923 2 жыл бұрын

Jochum conducted Mahler??😳

@sniffableandirresistble 5 жыл бұрын

This is accurate comprehension of mahler in case there was any doubt

@MrVincent63 3 жыл бұрын

Dit raakt mij diep. Mooi ❤️

@jakobpetropoulos8850 3 жыл бұрын

Ivan Fischer's Mahler readings are astonishing. Buy his recordings With the great Budapest orchestra and enjoy them forever...

@olawfhjorth9985 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting interview! Also interesting that I'm swedish but understand most of what he's saying without subtitles.

@jan-christinejohnson5256 Жыл бұрын

One of the first lessons that I learned of music is to share and receive Om - all the sounds of the universe.

@CRAEager 13 жыл бұрын

Great interview!

@sniffableandirresistble 5 жыл бұрын

Thank god this exists!!!

@KyotoMelody Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Thank youuu!

@SteveCournane 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful interview

@Herfinnur 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the subtitles, this was really eye-opening

@DH-oq9sz 4 жыл бұрын

6:22 Nietzsche and Kierkegaard sensed that too.

@vinifebriantiputri944 6 ай бұрын

Far far before Camusian Philosophy 😊

@PeterRabbit000 12 жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this. These are people who love music and its ability to touch the heart.

@NedFlanders2 11 жыл бұрын

In some cases German language and netherlands seem very similar. I'm German and I don't speak a word of netherlands but some parts of what they're saying I understand perfectly and than other parts I would have no Idea what they're saying without the subtitles.

@lindenbaum5492 4 жыл бұрын

so it was dutch! i am a beginner at german, and was confused by all these "jahr", "klein haus", sommer

@wolfgangoker1865 Жыл бұрын

That what Ivan Fischer said about Mahler‘ sometimes eclectic style is also an explanation why we have so few great nowadays. At first the in tonal music almost anything was told or played and secondly this music is reproduced and played so often that there is no opportunity for a new creation

@dberjian Жыл бұрын

I love these guys. Please, I like to know the language of this interview. I know it's a Scandinavian language, but I don't know which one. It has so many words that are common with English.

@jacobhogeterp9089 11 ай бұрын

Dutch

@rjr1967 12 жыл бұрын

It seems so churlish to say this... so first of all THANK you for posting it. But why is the first clip of music the grand finale from the 2nd Symphony, and then in the interview they talk about the folky fairytale Fourth Symphony? Well, I don't suppose anyone was led astray... (who would admit it anyway?) :-)

@karinwijnberg9489 2 жыл бұрын

Thats exactly what i thought ...

@ItchyNose31 Жыл бұрын

The subtitles contain some unfortunate errors. (E.g missing “not”, reversing the meaning.) Also, it’s completely bizarre to illustrate a discussion of the (chamber-like) 4th symphony with multiple clips from the (monumental) 8th symphony… within Mahler’s world, they couldn’t be more different. Fischer is always interesting to hear, though.

@MyMusic0201 9 жыл бұрын

Why is there a video segment of the 2nd symphony at the beginning and do they keep talking about the 4th? Editing mistake?

@bordaz1 8 жыл бұрын

+MyMusic0201 I don't know, but i have to admit, that was a damn good performance of the Resurrection symphony

@wolfgangoker1865 Жыл бұрын

He should have been appointed as the sequel of Kubelik and Jansons in Munich

@VallaMusic Жыл бұрын

of course if the personal circumstances of an artist's life are all in order and everything is happy and going well - so what ? - the artist is still acutely aware of the world situation in general and the seemingly endless sufferings that go with it - so on the soul level the artist feels all and is affected by all

@SaccidanandaSadasiva 11 жыл бұрын

it was cosmic love.

@mrnarason 9 жыл бұрын

amazing insights about mahler's music

@iraeich 10 жыл бұрын

While I enjoy the interview, Mr. Fischer seems to equate the tragic with inner depth. Sometimes that's true, but not always. The older I get the less I have time for the "poor me, I haven't a chance, the world stinks" attitude. I love the fourth symphony, fairy tale and all.

@Yourmustacheisgrowingonme 8 жыл бұрын

i totally agree. to people who think tragic music inherently has more depth i pose the question, what is more elusive in life...true sadness or true happiness? id say true happiness. so to me for a composer to express great joy means that he has found something that evades most. now thats depth

@queeralien227 5 жыл бұрын

A genius on a genius

@ToxicTurtleIsMad 9 ай бұрын

How can you classify them the same..

@martiglesias60 3 жыл бұрын

Helaas bestaat dit boeiend programma (op zondag) niet meer. Schande van de Nederlandse Openbare Omroep.

@edina2010 11 жыл бұрын

UHG....I MEAN UNDER!

@edina2010 11 жыл бұрын

SORRY SORRY SORRY FOR THE SPELLING ABOVE MR FISCHER!!!!!!!!

@mhroe 5 жыл бұрын

"wonderful" wife 🙄🙄🙄

@pega17pl 5 жыл бұрын

Fischer gelingt es mit seinen Überlegungen dem Geheimnis Mahler näher zu kommen als vielen anderen zuvor. Liegt es an der Einfachheit seiner Gedanken, Mahler einfach so zu nehmen, wie er sich in seiner Musik darstellt, also einfach hinzuhören und wirken zu lassen?

@Alpha6.31 Жыл бұрын

Prachtig interview, maar het geboden fragment was natuurlijk uit het slotdeel van de 2e, niet de 4e symfonie. Beetje domme fout.

@voiceover2191 2 жыл бұрын

It is said that Mahler's sixth is tragic more privately, that he foresaw the three great tragedies that were to occur within a year after the premiere of the 6th in 1906, when during the year after, he lost his job at the Vienna opera and had to leave Europe eventually, one of his daughters died and his physician told him he had a heart defect that would lead to an early grave. This is symbolized by the three hammer blows in the final movement of the symphony. This theory of prpphetic impending triple doom was suggested by Mahler himself, so what Ivan Fisher relates to as a prediction of war goes against Mahler's own interpretation. I do believe Mahler was sensitive to the catastrophies the 20th century would bring, that death would reign supreme. However, I think his 9th is more adequately a testimony to that. Leonard Bernstein gave a brilliant lecture about it in 1973 during one of his great Harvard lectures (followed by playing the final movement of the 9th): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i5t5as-Ks5vFlIk.html

@erjonsejdijaj7868 2 жыл бұрын

The idea of Mahler's "three great tragedies" was created by Alma's letters and memoirs, which unfortunately have very much been called into question. For example, Alma Mahler describes the scherzo of the sixth as "[it] represented the unrhythmic games of the two little children, tottering in zig-zags over the sand. Ominously, the childish voices became more and more tragic, and died out in a whimper." However they only had one child by this point. In fact, their second wasn't even conceived yet. Now for the three hammerblows-argument itself, that poses several problems as well. Firstly, the resignation of the opera was not necessarily 'forced' nor was it disastrous for him. Secondly, the heart condition itself was heavily exaggerated by Alma, as it wasn't directly fatal. It was his condition in conjunction with his active lifestyle which did him; a lifestyle he was too stubborn to change. Next, the chronology doesn't hold up, as the third hammerblow was deleted in 1906, before *any* of the three "fatal hammerblows" occured. And lastly, no-one other than Alma has corroborated these statements. Now none of this detracts from his music, the sixth is my favorite of his, but misinformation is misinformation, even for how canonic it is.

@voiceover2191 2 жыл бұрын

@@erjonsejdijaj7868 Very interesting, thank you for the info, may very well be mine was wrong... And I agree, great symphony.

@hedahedo3878 2 жыл бұрын

@@erjonsejdijaj7868 Alban Berg is said to have remarked this about M6: "The only Sixth, despite the Pastorale..."

@telephilia 8 жыл бұрын

As great as Mahler is, it's a bit of the stretch to put him in the upper tier of the pantheon with Bach, Mozart and Beethoven. I'm not even sure he'd make the top 10 - but the top Twenty, sure

@Dan474834 6 жыл бұрын

Mahler is better than Bach, Mozart and Beethoven. Try to think for yourself for once my man instead of regurgitating historical precedent.

@arjenbij 4 жыл бұрын

@@Dan474834 Mahler is not better than Bach, you can't even make that comparison, this coming from a big mahler fan. Bach is an objective composer, his music lives seperatly from him. Mahlers works are personal, he is a subjective composer, they are connected to him as a person.

@f.p.2010 3 жыл бұрын

@@arjenbij lol no

@arjenbij 3 жыл бұрын

@@f.p.2010 explain

@f.p.2010 3 жыл бұрын

@@arjenbij how in everything is Bach an objective composer? If you're really going to use that argument: Mahler is the most objective composer in history, since no one else shows us how the universe was created, how evolution took place, how the universe ends, how the two gods created the True Life dimension and what lies beyond the multiverse