It's like she watched a Captain Flowers casting highlights video and decided to make her whole style just the jokes and puns without the rap god play by play

Charitable comments by Dom tbh. Coulda gone the hater route but was pretty constructive

At least we know that blood is running through Luger's veins.

Loved how Dom described this… I’m not always paying 100% attention to the stream, so it’s frustrating to not know what’s going on based off of the play-by-play…

I don’t envy anyone who tries play by play. It requires a lot of game knowledge and an ability to immediately assess the situation and articulate it in a coherent way. It’s not easy. Imo a good play by play should almost allow you to close your eyes and picture what is happening without seeing it. Great play by play can do that and also be colorful and not sound repetitive. It’s what makes captain flowers so good. I’ve tried to be patient with letigress, it’s a hard job and if you look at chat for 2 seconds you’ll see an insane amount of hate any time she appears or says a word. So I try not to pile on. But she’s been doing it for awhile now and she hasn’t gotten any better. She tries to be colorful and use interesting phrasing but it usually leaves her stumbling over her words. You can tell she often has 2 separate sentences in her head and will often combine them in an awkward way accidentally. She does goofy voices that come of more cringe then funny….. I don’t like hating on her but she really just struggles sometimes. Personally if it’s not Azael and Flowers I’d rather just turn the volume down. Lol

Dom casually being a better caster without even trying 😅

Title misleading, clearly not having thought about the legendary "OUUUU THE KNOCKUP ONTO TWOOOUU, WOMBO COMBO BABYYYYYYY"

I respect pointing out her lack in confidence, I am sure her expedited progress on the broadcast and all the negative feedback can be overwhelming but she just has to learn the game and practice her flow and it'll come. It's pretty unbearable though - nobody is wrong about that. I just respect the constructive approach instead of blind hate. She probably has potential in academy or something where they need some life. Not for the main broadcast tho - at least not for now.

The casters job is to keep the confusing parts understandable and the boring parts entertaining. Artosis and Tastless casting SC2 are perfect examples of this.

I think she needs some time in academy to get better and up her casting chops. This definitely felt like her worst casting, I normally don't mind her but here she just sounded tired.

A shout caster has one main job and its to quickly convey the most important pieces of informations, often the information that is easily missed by the average viewers. When most leagues hire casters, they want to see you having casted before, doesn't even have to be the same game because just knowing whats going on in a game is the first and most important step to play by play. I hate saying that a woman only got her job because shes a woman because that isnt even the case, you cannot convince me that she is one of the best female casters out there, even the valorant tier 2 na female caster (no idea what her name is) is better than this and she isnt that great herself either. There must be women out there who are decent at casting, why hire someone who isnt. There isnt even an argument about money to be made, there is no way that hiring her is much cheaper than any other female caster. I think its really good to integrate more women in to a broadcast but not if its at a cost of the viewing experience, there are of course bad hires that are men as well but they feel more like bad scouting instead of just grabbing the first woman available. Theres just no world where you could convince me that women can get good at literally every other job in esports production apart from casting, do some sort of scouting, there must be people available out there. Kitty for the lpl is a good example of a very decent caster, she might not be as good as the best of the best but if you put her next to someone like flowers or drakos, she would bring her own value to the cast and wouldn't ruin the experience at all. When LeTigress casts i just turn the sound off, she managed to not only be bad at keeping track of whats going on in the game, shes also bad at casting itself, the words she uses and what words she puts emphasis on, you dont have time to speak slowly in the middle of a big fight, thats the kind of thing you do when the fight is dying out and nothing is really happening anymore, you should copy the pace of the game when shout casting.

We need more Dom casting honestly

Careful Dom. Criticism of LT is NOT to be tolerated! Obviously nobody can have a legitimate criticism here, it's gotta be incel hate against women.

just let her cast academy to get her rounds in she's clearly not ready yet markz who's a solid caster had to go through casting academy to get spots on the main broadcast

When I close my eyes I just heard morty doing the classic "oohhhh gooooodddddd ohhh jeeezzzzz"

Your 5 seconds of casting was such a breath of fresh air. Holy smokes I didn't realize I was starving till I tasted that.

It's just annoying that she's doing this on the main LCS broadcast while Academy has much better casters. Every academy caster they've brought in has done so much better on the main broadcast than her. Why does she keep getting more and more shots every week when she's not improving? Bring in the ones who've been grinding for years to cast.

I really appreciate Dom staying on topic and pointing out what exactly made the casting bad and how it could have been better, instead of just memeing or making jokes about it. Constructive feedback is super important when pointing out mistakes, so that people can improve. Esp appreciated him pointing out the lack of a summary at the end of the fight, bc it's a super important part of casting that sometimes gets overlooked when talking about whether casting is good or bad. Even if the fight itself is narrated perfectly, if you're just listening it can be hard to remember who exactly got what. I only recently started paying attentiont to the quality of casting, but you'll notice for example Flowers at the end of a fight gives a short but informative summary, which for this fight would be something like "two kills on each side, but CLG secures the dragon and denies C9 soul point." Which then gives the color caster a perfect opening to launch into an analysis of what comes next or what the overarching impact of the fight might be going forward.

Letigress gets bounced around roles on the broadcast, really weird. Idk what was wrong with her as an interviewer tbh.

Sounds like she climaxed at the dragon getting set up.

That moment when you realize 5 seconds of play-by-play in this video are better than the whole letigress season

Expecting her to suddenly improve her play by play accuracy, her pace, voice control, and cutting out the excess is like expecting a NFL QB with poor arm strength/accuracy, bad footwork, and poor reading of the defense to suddenly become an all-pro the next season. There are too many problems to fix and management need to get real and find a replacement.

why is she still casting i dont get it

Personally I don’t usually watch the LCS I put it on another monitor and listen to it while I play through some other games. I usually don’t have a problem with any of the casters, some like ender(lec) make it hard to understand the game because he likes to make a lot of jokes, but the duos are fun to listen too. With her, I simply have no clue what’s actually going in in the game. Feels like she’s talking in past tense, other commentators reacting to a play and she hasn’t even gotta there yet.

I think she was nervous as fuck but its so frustrating at the same time

On the flip side, I’ve enjoyed Mark’s casting this year. I feel like he’s really improved over the last year. I know he’s not the most exciting or hype color caster, but I feel like he always offers solid analysis and I appreciate his dry humor. I think if he casted more with solid PBP people like Flowers he’d shine more.

Yeah, having her and captainflowers do the same job also just amplifies the hate she gets, I'm sure. It's not either of their faults but the largest skill gap in all of lcs is probably the two of them.

People in esports don’t get the history behind play-by-play casting. It originated from baseball radio casting where there was no video, so you had to envision the game based on what the commentators say

This happens when you give the job to people based on filling a quota.

That was actually a great point, most of the casters are good enough that I don’t actually watch most LCS games, I listen to them like a baseball game on the radio type thing, but when I hear Letigress I just hear her corny ass jokes lol

I’ve said time and time again the sign of a good play by play caster is when I can visualise all of the action without watching the video - like when I’m walking around doing housework and just have my headphones on to follow the game. Some casters give me a crystal clear mental picture, and even in teamfights when it gets super chaotic you’re still getting all the key moments

They fired Dash for this kekw

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who notices this. It’s so painful and literally makes me not want to watch the games she “casts”. I’ve stated in other comments I rely on the cast to understand what’s happening because sometimes I cannot actively watch but only listen; but when I listen to her I cannot visualize what’s going on in the game.

I came in to the stream yesterday and saw all the hate and I was confused. Glad you posted this and shed light into the situation. I can understand why people dislike her now

Yup LeTigress for ovilee, randoms for dash, my god what amazing trades

I love how people are saying that we hate her casting because she is a woman. No honey we hate her casting because it sucks.

thats why i only watch co streams this year, worst caster for me, doesnt hype me up, screams only

Hit the nail on the head in my opinion. She didn't realize the dragon is still alive. If I was trying to be a caster, I'd be looking at old replays and casting it with the audio muted, and then checking to see what the actual casters said. On top of that, I would be using the indicators in the top left and right to check when objectives are taken, not the kill feed text. Even casters should vod review and hone their "mechanics".

It's really bizarre that she casts like this because I remember her being a Smite caster awhile back. Idk what it is but is there like a system where she can train up what she's weak in to get better? I just would really hate to see someone get left out to dry like it's seeming rn

She's trying to do what captain flowers does, but fell behind or just lost track of where she was in the fight. Mixing play by play with clever commentary, so it's super hype. When it falls apart though, it looks real bad, because it's neither hype, or coherent.

Am I the only one that hears her moaning at some point?

Riot bring in the people they want for 'culture fit' aka company loyalty, optics, nepotism, reasons other than pure merit. It's obvious that she had very little of her own skill so they had Flowers give her a crash course in pbp. She's learning on the job. Meanwhile, the audience has to suffer.

Not sure if Dom reads this, but... his play by play was pretty nice (of course you have seen the play before so it is maybe is easier than live casting). You are one of my favorite creators and I think if it was possible it could be great to see you cast in LCS as a guest play by play or color. Good shiz my man, keep up your overall hard work.

Honestly, with the amount of qualities that costreamers bring, I have no idea why audiences would still tune in to original LCS broadcasts. Someone enlighten me.

Yeah So I saw LCO looking for PbP and i'd love to do it but haven't applied for this reason, not confident i'd cast it well enough.

If Letigress is casting I switch to a costream, unbearable caster and worthless analyst, literally never made a unique point or added interesting perspective to anything. Glorified diversity hire.

I bet she was hired because she's a competent caster

This is why you shouldn't hire people just to check the diversity box. Instead, it should primarily be based on merit.

This is what happens when you put someone on the main broadcast (including her taking ovilees place) with no experience or qualifying factors. She could be good some day, but how on earth she ended up casting (outside of diversity reasons) is far beyond my comprehension. Bad for the product

I think you critiqued it well. My opinion is the play-by-play caster should act as if their audience is listening a radio broadcast. Making the listener be able to follow the game through audio only. And the color caster fills in the gaps in action with strategy or narrative discussion.

Dom pulling a self Caedrel's Malzahar

I don't have anything constructive so say. All I know is if she's on the cast I mute it. Like the girl who does LPL casting now. Idk where they be finding these people

Frosk would be proud.

Great analysis, Dom. Fair and constructive. This is my first exposure to her casting as I rarely watch NA, but from reading others comments, it sounds like she's just not very good at play-by-play and maybe it's not a good fit for her... One has to wonder how she got the job and maintained it for what sounds like... years? Like, if I wanted to be a play-by-play caster, I'd record myself doing play-by-play over and over again, then upload them to youtube once I felt confident. Then I'd use that body of work as proof of my competency when applying to be a caster for Riot. And I'd expect to have to do some kind of live casting interview thing before being broadcast as a professional working for a premier e-sports company... I cannot even imagine someone listening to her do play-by-play with years less experience than she has in this clip... and then hiring her? And I mean that literally. My imagination falters. What would it even look like to be less competent at play-by-play than what's shown in this clip?

If you weren't watching the game and just listening to it, I wouldn't blame anyone for mistaking her moans as bad porn acting. And I swear to God, I think heard her scream and moan "Oh so deep"

God damnit. LCS posted their ON -AIR talent for summer split and i went down the letigress rabit hole and wound up here again. It's a very sad day so far.

0:10 wait, didn't Dom cast a couple of LPL games at some point? I clearly remember those matches and him later talking about that experience.

Well I think the problem is companies are trying to go for "equality" instead if quality

"WHAT ARE WE SAYIIIING" -Your local crackhead, iwd

Scary to think they dropped pastry time for her. Pasty was an average causer but still miles better than this and the fact Raafa isn’t casting this coming week and doesn’t know if he is casting finals weekend. Rito pls just make her host

captain flowers does what works for him and he excels at it, the issue is too many people try to mimic that solely cause of how good he does it and they don't understand why it works, its how he does it, its his voice, theres a congregation of reasons why he succeeds at it, she's too foucsed on what works for him and others but not what would work for her, her issue before was she screeches and doesnt project her voice, now she has no personality or ability to actually shot call whats happening on her own volition and is thinking too much about "what would x say for this" hell i even tolerate vedius even though hes a giant cringelord cause he just embraces his level of cringe and runs with it, sometimes its brain cancer inducing other times you can just ignore it but a good amount of the time his casting is decent so i dont let his flaws get to me, tigress on the other hand the bad times vastly outweigh the decent times

What Dom said is no where near hating. If pointing out someone's mistakes is hating.. How does anyone try to improve themselves.. Like we as humans can't identify every mistake we make. If anything this is a great clip for people looking into becoming a play-by-play caster. Or for Tegris to polish up on her skills of casting.

the main issue imo is that no one was asking for her to cast and there are certainly many up and coming casters who would do a much better job. Not sure why she was thrown into the casting position but I dont think any amount of practice or game knowledge will get her to where she needs to be.

Ok. Lots of dumb comments posted. Lets clear the air: 1). LeTigress is actually very bad. 2). Her terrible casts have nothing to do with her being female 3). In fact, she only got the job cause she is female 4). Laure and Skojz in lec are very competent and loved, as they should be 5). Besides Kobbe, Flowers and Azael LEC casters are light years ahead of LCS 6). LCS production is wrought with cringe, the person in charge needs to be replaced Thanks for the honest video.

It's insane that LCS still has her casting. This is one of Riots tier 1 leagues. It's actually unbelievable and embarrassing. And it's so sad that Dom had to tiptoe around this entire subject. It's like people are expected not to say the obvious: She's incredibly bad at PBP casting, and she has no place on a main broadcast doing PBP. I know it sounds harsh, but it's just the truth. I'm sure she's a lovely person IRL, but she is very, very bad at this particular job. I definitely would be awful at the job too. It is what it is. You have to wonder at this point whether it's LCS being stubborn, and not wiling to admit their mistake, or if's the fact that they think it will cause an outrage because a certain portion of the internet will inevitably throw a tantrum at Riot giving into "misogynist" community and firing a female caster. I dunno, I've just been dumbfounded for the last 2 years, trying to figure out why in the world we still have to deal with this.

I've been cringing over these dumb lackluster play-by-plays all season. The worst part is ppl who paid money to be there live and they have to listen to this while their favorite teams play.

I think its a good example of a mixture between lack of confidence and game knowledge. Not knowing what part of the fight to pay attention to and be more detailed about, and just kinda filling the empty silence with random words. LEC is a good example of it being done right, when you watch Caedrel, Quickshot, Guldborg, Dagda, etc. they have experience and confidence in their game knowledge to be able to talk about whats happening, whats just happened, the potential of what could happen, realistic outcomes, etc. And it's more enjoyable to watch. I think with time she will develop but she needs to be able to cast a match like this, review what she casted, and recieve critisism to improve

Dom's play by play example was actually kinda Pog

To me, she always seems like a politician trying to convince us she cares about League when really she doesn't

I got banned in LCS chat for saying that she is bad. She is just PC and that is all what matters lol.

She needs to leave, it's clear no one wants her casting. Pick someone else up. There's no "practicing", the argument for keeping LeTigress as a caster is like trying to keep a hardstuck female gold player on a pro team.

That's what happens when you cast people for the quota. America in a nutshell.

I was really trying to like/ put up with her casting.. I forget if it was game 2 or 3 but she said something like "ohhh the game is getting really scrappy now which favors" and in my head I'm like obviously CLG, the worse team that likes to fight a lot, and she goes C9.... Just so many little things it's really annoying.

The issue with Letigress has always been they have tried to make her perform roles where a decent level of game knowledge is required and she generally just doesn’t have it. Not hating but riot has set her up to fail and for people to criticize her.

It is super hard to find talent like Captain Flowers who can go through the most hectic team fights like a machine. So I want to be forgiving... But she doesn't have the skills, to try and cast unfortunately. So I am curious why they have her doing it.

we really have to hire people professionally not out of pity or diversity. If that's the case why not hire me? Im a minority here in United States. I have no experience or talent in casting, but Hey! LeTigress was given a chance!

"Let's try out our new rookie caster for this playoff game." LCS executives doing their best to make sure that the LCS is truly dead. They are trying to hop over to Valorant.

i like how dom said she doesnt believe dragon is still up, it makes it sound like she's schizo XD

The worst moment for her IMO is the Berserker clutch quadra it could have been soo good if it was a good caster

This is a drop in the ocean, we got bigger problems. Riotgames is making awful business decisions about prioritising Valorant over League on weekends, they are shrinking the viewership and ultimately letting the LCS die with weekday broadcasts, while they push Valorant on weekends. The FPS market is very congested, once Counterstrike 2 is released and the FPS Esports scene moves on to CS2, what is riot going to be left with in esports, having killed of their MOBA title and CS2 crushing their FPS title. TF Tactics? Zero management.

its so toxic watching her cast live. Because not only is it bad, but you get called sexist if you dare criticize it in chat.

Not many play by play casters convey well what’s happening to often . I listen to games when I can’t watch often .

The problem is that Americans are so fucking worried about including women in everything, riot can't move her to academy or the woke american mafia will cancel everyone involved. I would so rather see Emily Rand cast because she has actual game knowledge. Keep letigriss to interviews. No one worries about LEC not having a female caster because Europeans don't give a fuck.

why is she still casting anyways? holy shatt 3 main points of casting: 1. (most important and has to go first) play by play with some micro intels. 2. (secondary, can not be first on teamfights) hype, use banger words to hype up the fight after play by play 3. (when nothing big is happening) intel on macros, random facts, etc. L-tiger usually does number 2 only or firstly while doing number 1 very partially.

I think she should transition to a interviewer or analyst desk position. It’s really hurting the integrity of the cast by having these mistakes. (Or at least have her practice more)

Casting is very helpful for the visually impaired. Skins + clumps make it hard to realize what’s going on. At least calling champions and player names helps the viewer refocus and understand the basics happening at this spot.

I think dash’s casting was pretty good tbh. I’ll take his casting than tigress anydya

she tries so hard to cast like flowers it just feels so forced and comes out awkwardly

I would love to give riot the benefit of the doubt that they are hiring the best people for the job, thing is they are legally prevented from doing so so why would i

Whenever im listening to a Letigress cast it feels like im listening to a children’s lcs league it’s insulting & shes just objectively bad at casting. She should be put back on post game interviews

For some reason this was in my recommended any after the first clip I wanted to make a captain Flowers comment but its already there

Lowkey dom's casting is kinda clean

Latigress - Captain Flowers without any of the knowledge, skill, ability or basic understanding of what is actually happening in the game.

Try listening to her casting for 100 Thieves vs Liquid - LCS 2023 Spring Split Week 5 Day 2 at 40:09 in-game time.

Riot is doing the same thing ESPN did. Put women on the panel because it's inclusive and guys like looking at attractive women, but their only qualification is they've heard of the game/sport and are good looking. How about we just stick to letting the people who know what they're talking about hold positions in which describing the event taking place is literally the entire job? If she was knowledgeable about the game it wouldn't be an issue, but clearly they've got her there for other reasons.

I think monte puts it best where it seems Riot/LCS doesn’t even know what to do with Tigris. They swap ovilee for her as interviewer because they wanted lcs to be more professional and pristine. But then they introduce sushi dragon 6 months later and make her be a bubbly presenter for Friday night league then they move her to analyst table to do what dash does, later a spicy playful presenter like sjokz with tsm segment and now she’s casting. She’s been in lcs for 3 years where she’s Jack of all traits but master of none not because of her ability but because management incompetence is sabotaging you to develop and master any skills.

2:20 insane casting

заканселят ли Дома ,если окажется ,что она черный транс ?хм

Blood runs through veins, she's right 👍

Looks like she has lost her confidence. These things seem to be basic for a commentator, and something which you expect an experienced person like her would pick up on. Is she not being given feedback? Or is she being asked to cast in a style that she is not comfortable with and it has just snowballed now to this? Is there no communication at all between the casters behind the scenes to review casts, figure out styles and how to integrate them etc.? I mean, look at how Troubleinc was integrated last year in LEC, or Kitty in LPL this year (she had some rough casts early on IMO - good game knowledge, but a little out of sync). It looks like LeTigress needs to get out of LCS for her own sake at this point more than anything.