J. Krishnamurti - San Diego 1972 - Convers. 2 with E. Schallert

J. Krishnamurti - San Diego 1972 - Convers. 2 with E. Schallert - Ending disorder is the ending...

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J. Krishnamurti - San Diego 1972 - Conversation 2 with Eugene Schallert - Ending disorder is the ending of death
Summary:
Inwardly we're all in a state of confusion, that's the common ground of all humanity.
Is there an answer when there is real perception?
Now I have come upon something which is real, I have watched "what is" and moved from there. It is a living thing.
To live you must die, dying every day to all that you have gathered, so that the mind is fresh every day. It is new.
I must first understand what it means to live, not what it means to die.
Death is perfect order because it is the ending of disorder, and the ending of disorder is to be aware of what is disorder, choicelessly.
Then you can find out in that state what is the immeasurable.
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@ourloveourjourney215 2 жыл бұрын

Gosh I wish they had more interviews together! He is such a great SELFLESS assist in helping JK draw more clarity from his deep insights. THE BEST interview IMO of JK! LOVE LOVE LOVE! ❤️‍🔥❤️

@Raul-um5gb Жыл бұрын

SELFLESS ❤

@Mrscory77 3 жыл бұрын

I cannot express in words all the benefits I received by simply listening ..and understanding the depths of his words! 🙏🏻♥️☯️💫

@maheshg2429 2 жыл бұрын

Did u listen all of his talks?

@AHAchallengecourse 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏🙏

@megamanx87 Жыл бұрын

🔥

@TheMonacarol 3 жыл бұрын

J Krishmurti time was so limited, He cut through a lot which wasn’t relative,he was on a mission to get his message to as many people who were in influential position he is the only true world teacher Amazing man ❤️❤️❤️❤️

@ashrafulhaque8759 2 жыл бұрын

Apart from JK, what a great interviewer Mr. Schallert is! Everything between them flows like water..totally frictionless!

@andiegrande3450 3 жыл бұрын

Contrary to other advaita non dual teachers that are floodding the spiritual market, Krhishnaji never talks about "everything is an illusion, a dream and that everything is the way it should be, and on and on", he's very much a 'hands on' teacher, totally thorough and clear. Thankyou for your guidance!

@bitkurd 2 жыл бұрын

Yes but everything is just an illusion! including the language we are speaking, life is just a happening and some people try to give it a meaning which they get really disappointed. Existence implies nothingness and one is not an option without the other. Existence is just acknowledging that there is something rather than nothing. Another question, how come I don’t suffer and we live in the same world? Maybe I don’t give life a meaning or not willing to fix something that I didn’t break. Also you can’t have order without acknowledging disorder constantly. Only there is order when the observer is just observing in complete silence. Like Carl Jung says, “You are not what happened to you. You are what you choose to become” So if one can choose what they want to become, then why bother with order and freedom? Pursuing order will create disorder, just let the tao unfold.

@VSKTech-i3u 23 күн бұрын

Finally a person who can attempt to talk and question JK at an intelligent level !!Thank you!!!

@veraintuizione6497 Жыл бұрын

What a LEGEND both ! ❤️ Why aren’t there more people and discussions like this? WHY?

@guillermodozal7166 2 жыл бұрын

And after he explains it all: that’s enough. I read his freedom from the known in 1971 during my yoga-learning time in Rishikesh. Upon finishing the book, I might’ve said, that’s enough. I just knew that nothing else was needed. The myths surrounding yoga symbolism had to be put aside, and 50 years later, success.

@ovasight8912 2 жыл бұрын

Time stamp 34:30..to shed all memories of the self every night, to be born anew every morning.. To experience death again and again so you may live. DEEP!!

@js2010ish Жыл бұрын

👏🏼

@user-qi7gj3ug4v 11 ай бұрын

It is because of this awakening experience that I begin to know myself for what I am

@kevziro 4 жыл бұрын

This needs more views

@TheRiboka Жыл бұрын

I think not. In this social media age his words will get clipped and distorted and commodified.

@aleksabisercic1410 Жыл бұрын

One of the best conversations I have ever witnessed. What a wonderful exposition of reality🙏🏻❤️

@luisduarte167 2 жыл бұрын

“You have done it, i have done it” love it

@renukatandon7463 11 ай бұрын

Thanks SYDNEY M.ROTH,J.STEEN,C.MEADOR for all the efforts. a treasure to be preserved..

@daoistheway3666 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent discussion on live and death and what is love.

@aloNshachar 2 жыл бұрын

50 years since this interview - seeing no change unfortunately

@Gaurav.P0 2 жыл бұрын

You may not see change even after 50 years unfortunately.

@habi7630 2 жыл бұрын

What is the essence of me?

@megamanx87 Жыл бұрын

His innocent child like.

@hemalprajapati1893 Жыл бұрын

A constant repetitive cycle only getting worse.

@Manuel-zz1nz 3 жыл бұрын

Good explanation about order and disorder.

@rahulcharna1528 Жыл бұрын

One thing is clear, both are gentlemen and conversation is beautiful

@maheshn9970 9 ай бұрын

This two part discussion is some of the best that JK has to offer. The cardinal is equaly wise and able to draw wisdom from JK. amazing stuff ❤

@Amarfilmskishor 3 жыл бұрын

Extraordinary people teaching us how simple is man’s life but how complicated he makes it by following herd mentality

@user-iz8lu6mj2s Жыл бұрын

A good explanation.

@renukatandon7463 6 ай бұрын

VERY TRUE SIR ..SINCE THERE IS COMPLETE ORDER IN YOUR LIFE , EVERY TIME I LISTEN TO YOU SIR YOU TOUCH NEW DIMENSION OF MY EXISTENCE....ORDER IS NEVER OLD ...ALWAYS NEW...THANKS SIR...I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMAND AND CONTROL MR E.SCHALLERT HAS SHOWN IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE

@nitinrodge 3 жыл бұрын

K is death in reality, how miraculous it is to see alive something is death.

@js2010ish Жыл бұрын

😯 Pure order!

@fuzzychin4081 5 жыл бұрын

The "me" after death is an addition to the collective consciousness of all other "me's" that remain

@alainmaitre2069 4 жыл бұрын

What will happen after death , it remains a mystery , accept the mystery .

@fannatube 5 жыл бұрын

Marvelous

@quidestveritas2306 2 жыл бұрын

Sublime aquí el maestro.

@Gaurav.P0 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful video 🤩

@renukatandon7463 11 ай бұрын

yes same here i wish there were more dialogues between these two. no words to thank all. grateful

@priyagunaraj6919 4 жыл бұрын

34:25 Sir ..I don't read these books or any of other things.😅 so classic !!!

@zacharyjust5343 3 жыл бұрын

yet produces such related answers like "so you are not of this world"

@alainboudreau7222 5 жыл бұрын

thanks...

@tuansondinh4664 Ай бұрын

wonderful

@jacksonhull7003 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent!

@alainmaitre2069 4 жыл бұрын

" It is good to believe in nothing , just be alive and enjoy it , calmly . No christianity , no islam , no theism , no atheism , no communism , no capitalism , no religion , no non-religion , etcetera . No separatism (because separatism breeds violence) . Yes unity in impartiality , maturity . " Anonymous words of wisdom , to copy . Keep it simple , honest , lovely and calm , seize the day .

@user-zu7xw1pj5d Жыл бұрын

감사합니다

@sylviavanrhijn4474 Жыл бұрын

Bliss....this is real LOVE.

@nobodyreally 2 жыл бұрын

J. Krishnamurti talks with David Bohm & Eugene Schallert are of some of my favorites. Did these 3 happen to get together at all at the same time? Any Recordings?

@ramongomez8849 3 жыл бұрын

🙏🏻

@user-uu5jf3jo3o 10 ай бұрын

Why we won’t put an end to disorder: Thinking. Thinking is a mvt to escape from the unknown. Thinking is: memory. It is fear, escaping from “what is”. As what is is subversive. It entails change. Change makes me insecure as it is unknown. I am attached to the known. I am: fear, ego, lie, conflicts, the known. I don’t wanna let my fortress of cards, die. Because it is me. I am scared to die while alive. I’d rather let it be imposed to me by the death of the body. What a waste!

@user-fq8ws7zh8n 8 ай бұрын

love is total attention without any division

@sandeepdwivedi7249 4 жыл бұрын

JK you're the Love So innocent but so sharp

@brigidivory4160 2 жыл бұрын

Wow 😲 👏

@sophiyapoudel9164 4 жыл бұрын

😍

@sanekabc 4 жыл бұрын

Where did this talk take place at a rug store?

@chlorine5795 4 жыл бұрын

:-D

@marcjesse73 4 жыл бұрын

Testa exactly what you are. The rug which needs to be stamped upon!!!

@marvingainsborougify 2 жыл бұрын

😂

@umaranirethinavelu5812 2 жыл бұрын

Does it matter the illusion around you

@js2010ish Жыл бұрын

Lol. Don's Carpets of San Diego.

@emy1111 2 жыл бұрын

The pine tree might be 80years old but the tips are one year old.

@thejvmaster 8 ай бұрын

♥

@aleksabisercic1410 Жыл бұрын

I already commented, but each time I wantch this, each time I say this is one of the, if not the greatest interviews I have ever seen. So I might as well share this reverence again with you. Beautiful. 🙏

@rc9885 11 ай бұрын

🙏

@thesage90 2 жыл бұрын

People wonder what it's like to be dead and they don't realize they already have the answer it's like before you was born you can't experience it. like Alan watts said just imagine being asleep and never waking up

@hemalprajapati1893 Жыл бұрын

❤

@eesidvnnellore3643 2 жыл бұрын

Fear and Courage are a continuum and Hormany is a nihil and act is towards either courage or fear. The Hormany and beauty of thoughts and feelings is the dx/dt on a continuum.x is the movement in time on the axis towards the dualities.

@delicatepath8904 Жыл бұрын

is krishnamurtis discource is in his books? or what he had written is in his book?

@inoxbro9982 Жыл бұрын

CURIOUS WHAT HAPPENS..NO ESC

@ABc-gr6dd 2 жыл бұрын

9:22

@maurizioa5968 6 ай бұрын

Min 1:37 corretto è "stiamo" e non "tiamo"

@johnrobertkuznak Жыл бұрын

No time nor day to the father

@maurizioa5968 5 ай бұрын

Min.18:38 e min 19:28 vanno tolti (?) i punti di domanda

@Shivaho Ай бұрын

It's amazing to see a Catholic Priest having a real conversation about the our true nature and after a couple of hours of talking to K, say he's no longer a Catholic! Oh unless they cut that... Hm..

@nikunjarora7478 3 жыл бұрын

Why do I feel that Sir speaks about something similar to sufism

@emendatus1 2 жыл бұрын

It is indeed similar.

@Shivaho Ай бұрын

Yeah pretty special seeing a Catholic Priest talking to a seer like K and at the end of a couple hours say I'm no longer Catholic!

@mariekuijken7903 3 жыл бұрын

This other man is talking so much, in so many moments he is not giving real attention to what Krishnamurti is saying, therefore he is not understanding and not even listening. Instead he's probably thinking about what he will say next, how he can show his own views. Quite annoying. There's no good flow in this conversation, because of this...

@devendrachoyal8520 3 жыл бұрын

Do u understand?

@thewarriorearle 3 жыл бұрын

I heavily agree

@9n2f3 3 жыл бұрын

Then again, how can he say something in return, so it's a dialogue and not just a one sided lesson by krishnamurti, if he just listens to him.

@girinathprthi 3 жыл бұрын

It's because we are taught from childhood to read, follow what teachers say that's why we cannot fully listen and try to think of our own.

@HadBabits 3 жыл бұрын

I thought he was fine, this is a dialogue after all. I was more annoyed at Krishnamurti for jumping in before the questions could breathe and being so inflexible in the language. Tho overall I reckon the flow problem is more to do with a language/culture gap, but still a great talk.

@summer12151 Жыл бұрын

The way I see it is the Jesuit father is trying to push his silly shallow and stupid Christian theology onto JK and JK is putting up with it with utmost compassion.