Strange how most comments beneath talk about J.K. only. I think that E.Schallert does a marvelous job in this in interview. Clearly leading the conversation and making the interview as coherent as possible, which is really tough considering the subjects that are discussed. Let alone the fact that he represents the Cathloic Church with his both feet on the ground, not letting his believes interfere with the purity of the subjects around freedom and the ego. Kudos to you E.Schallert

Two humble and wise men sharing their wisdom with us.

E.Schallert is blessed with clarity in expression and perception . This dialogue between two wise men is a treat.THANKS

When I Stumbled upon these two videos in the vault I was amazed & blown away by this interview! I Got them to finally release them to the mail order catalog & webstore! Nice to see them digitalized and available anytime!

Brother Krishnamurti was one of the most compassionate spiritual beings of this era. Infinite love and reverence to the illuminated one that speaks through us 💝 Prophets still come and go..

I've just been blown into a million pieces of light and arrived whole... This is is is is is is!!!

Brilliant, what an insightful conversation, JK is simply at his best👍

Thank you very much!!! The way Jk puts it is for us to delve deeper ourselves and he doesn't give a conclusion and urges us not to jump to conclusions. And he doesn't use metaphors which could lead one's mind astray. This is pure and raw. He doesn't explain the non physical because it cannot be explained, he just shows us how to ask the questions 🙏 So thankful for this channel🙏

Wow that was a great professional debate . I loved that . Thanks for that soon much . 🙏🙏🙏🇨🇦

Precious 🙏🙏❤️❤️.. Thanks for uploading

After a while u understand what life means, u start to see u as one naturaly, and love, respect, and knowledge as a we r part of. Thanks JK, kisses to all here from Brasil,

For the first time K seems to have an 'equal' to talk to. So Interesting one reaches through Intelligence ( dhyana yoga) and other through Faith! ( bhakti yoga) Two great souls!

Thank you very much jk foundation

This content content is of enormous value in human psyche and for that matter it can be easily said by me that its value is much more than the whole youtube contents in every field so far

Thanks.🙏🙏🙏

So beautiful!

Excellent

so very aktual now, Thank you

13:39 Unity, harmony between human beings is what is important.

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Some ones try to divide and compare what is one in total. We r all in one.

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wow fantastic

What's real What's not Is reality just objective physicality Or is it really shared subjectivity If you see what I see And we agree It's real If you sense what I sense And we have consensus It's real Now imagine an earth without you and me Or any of our kind With a mind inclined to find Would the ground and all around cease to be Or would the only thing missing be What we call reality

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Great conversation by both , we humans know the truth but refuse to act on it as we are paralyzed by our Identity and the convenience that comes with our identification to a class or society.

The “wards and the streets, “ are full of people who have abruptly had the “me” eliminated..so there needs to be a process for this to happen. The Sufi’s have a process which is a polishing of the mirror of the heart..in the way that water polishes a stone. So the me remains, only it is no longer in primarily service to the self, but in service to a higher dimension. This service to a higher dimension results in the refinement of one’s being. Listening is critical..to be able to listen between the separations of silence is where the marrow is located.

✋Multumesc!❤

Min 10:32 "each other" la traduzione che rende il senso correttamente è "gli uni dagli altri" e non "da noi stessi" come è indicato attualmente.

When they talk is like jazz... and in extreme moment grindcore ...

7:42 Religion is not unifying. By it very nature and the definitions of its beliefs , is dualistic. I believe this, you don’t. We are different ; a part. That’s not right.

Remove the labeling process of everything seen

Is there something more important than what I want?

Can I have subtitles of this video? please,🙏🙏🙏

“Choicelessly aware” Of course JK was right, in that the main job of organized Religion is to separate man from him/herself, and each other.

We are really human that has to have control over god and angels and demons (god, angels, and demons=your brain, a robot god/angels/demons entity i must add) ;) when you as a human has power over your own mind, youre free, and you never do anything bad. Its your human consciousness that rules over yourself. Your ego is your own overlord. Why hasnt anybody else understood this. Im not smart it took me only 50 years lol

Min.19:38 la parola corretta è "Se" e non "Sè".

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Min 8:55, nella traduzione va inserita la parola "prima". La traduzione corretta, a mio parere, è così: "...prima che possa pensare di essere religioso". Mi sbaglio?

For me 32:43

Actually, Krishnamurti misses Schallert's point that we must have that harmony already in some sense. If it were otherwise, we wouldn't be able to see confusion AS CONFUSION. We'd be trapped, since there's nothing in or about thought that can liberate us, thought being inherently fragmentary. But you see: we must have a capacity (perhaps intelligence, if you will) that can spot the confusion involved in thought; we cannot be ONLY thought for that reason. Otherwise there'd be no way out; we wouldn't be able to see our confusion at all, or engage in the sort of inquiry these gentleman are engaged in. Another thing I found strange: Krishnamurti asked us to imagine that we have no concepts, no dogma, no religion, nothing - as though we were blank slates. Then he asks: how am I to live rightly, how am I to be good? This is nonsense, because if we had no concepts/ideas at all, this question wouldn't arise. We would simply BE. In other words, to have concepts already implies a culture, a way of living in which that particular language was learned. In light of speaking a certain language, whether you're aware of it or not, you have certain predispositions, certain tendencies. Language of necessity implies a lack of objectivity right off the bat, a certain slant on reality, and therefore only a partial view - perhaps not even that, but a partial construction of what we take to be reality. The sticky part of this dialogue is that these gentlemen are using language (the activity of thought) to explore ways in which dualities may come to an end. But the thing about language is that it will of necessity perpetuate or sustain duality. For example, the duality between perception and thinking. The way Krishnamurti proceeds, there's a clear difference between perception and thinking - perception liberates, while thinking (in the psychological sense) leads to more chaos. What Krishnamurti misses is that by introducing these distinctions, he's perpetuating duality, even though that may not be his intention. In other words, while Krishnamurti may want us to to get beyond a mere intellectual grasp of what he's suggesting, the effect of what he does still doesn't get people beyond the intellectual realm. Without his being aware, his careful examinations actually reinforce the intellect - which is dualistic in nature. The only way to get at a sense of wholeness is to remain in silent meditation. You cannot get to that wholeness through language, however carefully and thoughtfully used, because by nature it sustains and perpetuates duality. At best, language necessarily distorts what may have originally been an insight, turning it into an idea. So whatever Krishnamurti says is still within the realm of ideas. The mind inevitably asks: how is one to perceive? Krishnamurti says: "Don't ask how." But that doesn't get us anywhere. Since perception is out of our control (for it isn't a matter of will or ego), since we can do nothing to SEE, then we literally can do nothing to bring it about - which means, there's no point in talking about it. It either happens or it doesn't. Finished.

Painfull to watch interviewers trying to keep up but not understand anything. It.s because few ppl can ever escape subjectivity, while JK is pure objectivity

The interviewer is talking non stop and resists jk trying very hard to understand but .

E schallert is so full of words that he couldn't listen to what krishna's saying. If you throw away your words its so simple to realize the truth.

The idea that culture isn't an effective way to shape the mind would appear to be in violent conflict with the reality of the current state of affairs in the US. The exploitation of cultural differences are tearing the fabric of our society apart at the seems. With a colossal dose of cognitive dissonance.

I think he learned english in england But he aducated himself by himself.

Krishnamurti states: “I” is the content of my consciousness. Stop this content. But how can you stop it if I do not see that "I" is my consciousness. There is me and (I will underline "AND") my consciousness.