Kylo Ren Fan maybe he's dead

Most likely they didn't want to pay his actor, for such a small roll, I'm sure he will show up in the next one.

Phantom Pharrel amazing... Everything you just said was absolutely wrong. A crewmen of the Dutchman can only serve it for 100 until they become litterally part of the ship

I agree. Also, in the books about Jack's childhood, Bootstrap saw the trident with his own eyes, so not only should he have been there, but he also should let Henry know it was real and where he last saw it.

And yet Bootstrap hadn't been on there even remotely 100 years. Given that Will and Elizabeth are approximately the same age, and I'm pretty sure Bootstrap didn't have Will while on the Dutchman, it's logical to assume that Bootstrap had only been on the Dutchman for no longer than Elizabeth had been alive. And at the end of the movie, I don't think Elizabeth looked anywhere close to 100.

You forgot about Jacks back hair.

what if calypso gave the captain the compass using sea turtles because she controls the sea? before she was bound as a human?!!!!!

turtles XD

It's sea turtles all the way down...

Or or is the compass a nautical genie? Anyone ever used it under water?? Ever find it funny how the compass is mastered by Jack?? 7:13 in the movie. The Pearl is the Fastest ship on the seas. Enchanted and cursed. Reason why when he died he was challenged with reward. The movie is Strange Tides. Let me set the scene so I can explain the rant. Huge Depp fan. Knowing now what I did not know then. But know what I know??? 😒🧐🤯🤦‍♂️😳 epic. Once acquiring the pearl is all a manner of. Prospective. Just need a crew?? Depends on the destination. And Um while I am on this rant. Pause 7:03 in blah blah blah. Ship!!!! And first mate!! Not gonna Fk me…????!!!! “Mr. Gibs, You may throw my hat.” (Jack Sparrow) “Now pick it up.”(Johnny Depp). 🔀🔀🔀😏🧐🧐👏👏🤯🤯🤯. Attention mind I have just been blown. I mean do I need the rabbit hole of Lone Ranger?? I mean there is Black Mass. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. I mean who am I??? Just a fan who loves #RabbitHOLES ima tell u this. I was him. I make my own pirate movie. All out my story my way. And I will call it First mate. Also I am ex Navy. So I know shit. If gibs is always the first choice it is easy 2 find what u want. Just saying. Rule 1 Never Fk the home team. Rule 2. We are the home team. Rule 3. Never forget rules 1-2. 😈😈😈. Me personally that comes with responsibility. Except my crew. And this is all only 7:03 in. Oh baby it’s gonna get good. Sorry for the rant🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Great theory

Yes!

Knowing that, I wonder if there was some sort of elaborate setup to destroy Depp's reputation as Captain, I mean, the writers didn't like him or couldn't understand his role (like you said), then there's the toss up whether or not he's going to be in a sixth movie after that disaster with "she who should not be named". Honestly, I gave it a lot of thought and it was all in timing.

he bartered it from calypso where he lost it he never sold it for anything. he was able to get it back.

Emmanuel Ogundele Yeah. When it showed he got the compass in his tribute, I got confused, in the theater i thought "Wait, i thought Tia Dalma ( Calypso ) Gave it to him. That one little thing blew me off

the problem is that he basicly sold it for information or other "favour" before. So what is exactly the betrayal of a compass. you may not exchange it for rum or whats the deal?

Toetech When did he sell the compass for information or a favour? Was that in one of the books?

well atleast he gave it to will before dropping him off the ship. who then bartered it to cutler beckett, wouldnt you consider that as betrayal? also he didn't always have it. Jack bartered the compass off of tia dalma. so either he gave it away in his younger years or lost it and found it later in tia dalma's shop. Either way, If you throw the compass in the ocean, wouldnt that be a betrayal. With gibbs: gibbs helped him, he gave him the compass to escape - barter.

Jack being more stupid and drunk then past films, I thought was because he was losing everything. His ship was in bottle. And had no way of getting it out. He crew lost faith in him and abandoned him. Will and Elizabeth seemed to grow hateful of him. Not sure the reason for that but, they were two of his few friends. Jack's reputation was lost also. The wanted posters went down to under 5 pieces of sliver, for his capture. Like he wasn't even worth it, anymore. The Great Captain Jack Sparrow lost everything and was reduced to a nobody and so he became a drunken nobody.

Henry wasn't in any position to warn Jack about it because he didn't know about the compass' powers. He only knew that the compass was somehow the key to releasing Salazar, not the how. Also, he was locked and about to be hanged for treason. Jack traded his compass because he truly believed this was the end of the line for him. The movie made that clear. Yeah, Jack looked really bad, but that was the point. Jack was an old man (I think almost sixty by this point) whose best days were behind him. In the end, he gained redemption by finally getting back the Pearl, his crew (even the monkey finally accepting him), watching Will's journey coming to an end, and finally riding into the sunset. Jack was smart enough to never try to steal anything from Barbossa. Not only he didn't know about the power of Triton's sword, but also trying to steal from a guy who could hang him with a swift movement of his sword (like Blackbeard himself did to him before) would be really dumb.

The Sword's power only works with the Queen's Anne Revenge. Or whatever Blackbeard had control of. He couldn't go to any random ship and start waving the sword around making the ropes strangle peeps.

Zarathos on the contrary. Barbossa especifically mentioned how Blackbeard took control of the Pearl when he lost his leg. Besides, Barbossa made changes to it but his main ship was still the Queen's Anne Revenge on DmtnT

Zarathos yes, but this isn't the first time he has lost the black pearl, or people/his friends has gone against him, or he has been forgotten. what used to be cool about jack sparrow was that no matter how bad the situation he was always able to buy himself out of it somehow. in the first film he wasn't funny because he was a drunk, he was funny because u never new if he was a drunk, stupid or really smart. He didn't have the black pearl then, a crew, and he was even sentenced to death. They even showed that he keeps having bad luck. But the cool thing about him was despite being the most unlucky person in the world, he would always find away out of a situation. if there was a powerstruggle, somone with power he would find away to use their power against themselves.

Maybe when the curse was broken everything that was done in the first place was undone, including returning Will his heart as he was now mortal and no longer bound to the Dutchman. I am wondering if Bootstrap took over. Shame we didn't get a cameo or reference to him.

@@CrazyWerewolf444 we see the dutchman with will at the end of Potc 5 when the curse was broken. Maybe they were only giving him a lift. Who knows

I just Imagined everyone on the dutchmen celebrating that the curse is broken and now there all normal looking people again the men that have become apart the ship are realsed, hats be thrown, rum is being passed around and boot strap runs into wills cabin to embrace him as a mortal and will is he's just laying there dead. Bootstrap just being like oh fuck thats right.

@@CrazyWerewolf444 you’re giving the screenwriters more credit than they deserve.

@@IdleGluttony Yep I just realized I did. Being a fan of the series I guess I wanted to cover for the plot holes. Personally I don’t consider the fifth movie good in any way. The fourth may not have been as good as the first three but it tried at least and has some of my favorite moments.

If that was the case there would be no Will, Elizabeth, Barbossa, Flying Dutchman, etc

the last movie was produced by disney. Thats why

@@Adler2935 ALL the pirates movies, including the original, are produced by disney. Wtf are you talking about?

It definitely ignored the original timeline because Jack originally got that compass from Tia Dalma/Calypso

Oh hi Mac :D

Paige Kennedy thats a Good Question actually.

I wondered that myself. They must have lost them somehow. I figure they must have used the other bottled ships as test subjects trying to release them from the bottles. And possibly destroying them in the process. Apparently they never figured out how to release the Pearl and Jack kept it in his jacket.

Paige Kennedy and the other British guys too

Andrew the Amazing M what other British guys?

Are you guys serious? Pay attention! Barbossa took them all. Geez.

I don't think she was ment to be will turners age I think she was ment to be the same age as Henry and born sometime after at worlds end Elizabeth would of been pregnant when worlds end was happening just because it was never brought up in the film dose not make it not true. My gess is barbossa had a relaship with someone around that time but they never came onto the show but in dead man tells not teals Jack tells barbossa I knew a Smith once what's her name it's on the tip of my tongue which barbossa replies shut up we take this secret to the grave he explained he left the child because it's mother died. which means Jack met this women at some point maybe even will did like I said just because we did not see it on tv dose not mean other things did not happen.

if you think about it it's the only way her being born would make sense barbossa was dead well kind of in the fist one and had been since will was young so it's impossible for him to of made a baby and where not sure if they were cursed befor wills father sent him away at sea at the start of the fist film or weather they had just found out what they needed to break the curse.

Its my belief that between the third and fourth movies when Barbossa became a privateer under the employment of King George, he probably met Carina's mom during his service to the Crown and she gave birth to her and died around the time Hector had to set off to find the Fountain of Youth. And since On Strangers Tide takes place approximately within a year or two of At World's End, that puts Carina around Henry's age.

barbiquearea not sure that works barbossa said it had been 5 yrs since black beard had die

barbossa 1st 2nd 3rd movie age around 4th movie 60s 5th movie 70s ı think

PopcornFilmsMovies really true and in the last movie he gave it to a stranger

PopcornFilmsMovies I sat thru the movie and never once thought or cared about these potholes I was just enjoying the movie

Herman Pesina well then you need a reality check

Ou sen the reality that it's just a movie and that none of its real it's all Make-Believe?

*Will

The jar of dirt is iconic

Will was not there and barbossas sword and ship are nothing against undead ghosts, only if he was a ghost buster he had a chance

Yeah the blood moon would have been cool

More like the Compass of Erised.

Mallika Banerjee i mean, imagine you had this fckn compass. You would be overpowered, it points at everything you like the most. What when you lost your remote for your tv? Use the compass.

What if Calypso is from Hogwarts and She owned the elder wand then she made the Compass?!?!?!?!? or The Compass was made with a piece of the Elder Wand?!?!?! WHAT IF CALYPSO IS A FRIEND OF HARRY OR HERMIONE OR RON?!?!?!?!?! WHAT IF DUMBLEDORE GOT RESURRECTED BY CALYPSO AND DUMBLEDORE MADE THE COMPASS FOR CALYPSO??!?!?!!!?!?!?!? WHAT IF.......ok i ran out of ideas 😑 BUT STILL WHAT IF THAT HAPPENED??!?!?!!?!?!? Btw Im a MAJOR fan of Pirates of the Caribbean and Harry Potter WHAT IF JACK SPARROW IS A FRIEND OF HARRY POTTER AND IN THE 6th FILM JACK WILL VISIT HARRY??!?!?!! (cuz there is water in front of Hogwarts) ok ill stop typing now before i get crazy. you may scroll down now.

What if the compus made Calypso? What if the elder wand is made the compus? What if Calypso made Dumbledore!! Wait...

Potterhead Hermionie OMG ME TOO

Maybe because Will is busy ferrying the dead to do anything else.

Q: Why does Will have barnacles on his face? A: Because he stopped ferrying the dead. Q: Why doesn't Will help Jack's Crew fight off Salazar? A: Because he was too busy ferrying the dead. *speechless...*

preach

Salazar and his crew were permanently undead, just like how Barbossa and his crew were in the first POTC film. So no matter what Will did, he couldn't actually keep his word as captain of the Dutchman to ferry all the souls lost at sea to the afterlife. Plus I'm inclined to think that if you spent that much time underwater you're bound to have some sealife stuck on you at some point.

I too have read the POTC lore books and THE PRICE OF FREEDOM is always a favorite of mine, that being said when when I saw this movie the other day words cannot describe the RAGE i felt as I saw Disney take a dump on a lot of books in a single movie

Brian Beatty will have fear bcs henry drowned himself and should be brought on the other side but will hide him from the crew and sent him back to life, he have the barnacles on the face bcs he lives underwater and davy jones is alive bcs salazar was only one of sparrow greatest fears

Henry tries to drown himself at sea more than once, and each time instead of taking him on board or ferrying his soul he sends him back to his mother. Therefor, he is not fulfilling his duty and thats why he is barnacle face. There is also no loved ones allowed on board unless they are part of the crew, which Will breaks every time his son wants to talk to him. Also, his crew come out when they are shanghaiing someone into service, so Will tries to get Henry to leave before they even see him.

Jack DID get The Wicked Wench off of Beckett... that never changed...

OMG I was waiting for that too!! That was a wasted opportunity because that would have been bad ass.

Get a life

the flying dutchman is too busy ferrying the dead though

***** oh please. And They're going to explain everything in the 6th movie? That's too much

Well there was a post credit scene, and director did say it's nothing, maybe it isn't or maybe it's the beginning of the end. Might be explained in the 6th movie.

I still give a chance, i don't mind spending money on it. I just hope they're more effective in canon and messages in the next movie, cause this 5th one has the biggest flaws compared to the other 4's at least IMO

5 was one of the best ones.

To be fair, they did say it would be a soft reboot, so some of it can be explained by that choice. It doesn't mean they are any less lazy, but it helps clear things up for us!

Wow, this is true!

Because the lazy writers thought it would be cool if they made Jack a witty pirate since youth, completely disregarding the lore of his character.

S Kent bcs they're undead ghosts that can easy fuck his magic and that he know

AVF they cant teleport though. he can turn the ship around and get them away

S Kent they can walk over water, they basically little jesuses

Triton? Poseidon? Calypso? How many gods does that damn ocean have?

A lot in this movie doesn't make sense!

EXACTLY!!!

James Bradley doesn't matter he still gave it away

No he didn't. If you lend somebody your car it doesn't mean that its their car now.

At one point Beckett had it, and I don't think Jack trusted him.

David Smith It was all part of a grand scheme to defeat the guy. Plus Beckett gave it back in the end anyway.

If the compass points to the thing you want most, and he's always complaining there's no rum, then I ask: where's the problem?

To answer number 1 is Because Will Turner dad passed away on board. Will was very upset & depressed. so he decided not to carry out the job anymore.

I think it had to do Will's heart being cut out. Jones primarily cut his heart out so that he would no longer feel any compassion and heart ache, and by doing so became very corrupt and brutal. Will, after taking his place, is now suffering those exact same effects. He's been away from his heart from too long, and now he's starting to become a monster, and for all we know, he could have already started to do the same stuff that Jones was doing.

You can't have loved ones on the dutchmen , thus every time Henry tries to contact Will, Will breaks the rules of the Dutchmen.

@prettymonsterofevil Henry has Elizabeth's blood, Elizabeth could not be on the Dutchmen because of Jones curse.

I can't remember how DMTNT/SR presented it exactly but I got the impression that young Henry might have tried drowning himself to see his father more than once. If that was the case then Will's failure to deliver him to the world beyond would bring the punishment down upon him. Hiding him from the crew helps stop dissent from those who think the boy should be treated as one of the dead.

The SunChaser That still doesn't make sense as Jack still thought he was dead, until he received word that Salazar was alive again. If he didn't fear him before, there would be absolutely no reason for Jack to fear him later.

Salazar was freed by the compass trade before meeting Henry... So that does not work.

Josh Gara No, the ship that Henry was on went into the Devil's Triangle where Salazar and his crew were trapped. The compass trade is made later in the movie. Henry is on the run himself for disobeying his captain's orders when he sees Jack come out of the bar/tavern after the trade

It was made known that Salazar attacked a bunch of other ships that entered the triangle, and left one person alive to tell the tale, this is how Henry heard about it. It is possible that Jack has heard about it as well and just ignored it/played it off as nonsense. When asked leter by Henry, he feigned ignorance because he didn't want to accept that yet another cursed, undead, unkillable crew were after him.

Ryan Anderson that’s what I thought as soon as I saw him

Shamanized the true and most important plot hole

There are literally no plot holes in this movie...

Elias Crooker what about the maelstrom, it was a giant hole. 😂

I can see papyrus from undertale shouting at me

Elias Crooker Soooo, how was Will alive if his heart was in a chest? The curse is broken and his heart is still in a chest... Actually, how the Hell was he even captain in the first place? He was stabbed in the heart before it was cut out and put in the chest??? Am I just over thinking it?

I was very shocked that this movie threw most of it's logic out the window!

BlackBeard The Gamer he's not. His heart is in his chest again

Ou sen But how, he still removed the heart. Kind of like the end of the first movie, Jack shot Barbosa before the curse was broken and the hole stayed there until after the curse was broken, killing him.

It can be up for interpretation. Jack shot him, creating a wound that would have no effect. He was then freed of the curse before the would would heal, thus inflicting a fatal wound on a then mortal. With a curse being broken, I assume that the Dutchman breached like at the end of At Worlds End, all of the barnacles fell off, & Wills heart magicked itself from the chest into the chest (wordplay lol).

Salazar's crew, once their curse is broken, can be seen healing, even the crew that were the smallest bits of body left from the ship exploding. Likewise, Will's curse would have healed his absent heart, either going back into his chest in one way or another, or by regrowing inside him.

rillegas08 so basicially in a nutshell, teleportation, or regeneration

Awesome outlook!

This is actually the best explanation

Interesting!

THANK YOU! I've been thinking this all the time during the movie! I was so irritated by the fact nobody noticed this mistake!!!!

This actually works so well!

I have a way that makes your theory work with the way we saw things pan out, it goes like this When Tia says Jack bartered for the compass with her, you get the sense that he didn't barter for it in the traditional sense, I mean, this is Calypso we're talking about here. I saw someone else's comment on a video clip of Jack meeting with Tia Dalma, about how the captain of the Wicked Wench we see in PotC 5 tasked Jack with stealing the compass from Tia, and she caught Jack in the act. Tia then asks Jack why he isn't stealing it for himself, and he tells her how he's just a nobody, a boy who was sold into slavery by his grandma, and he tells her how he wishes to be the greatest pirate ever, and she tells him, "What if you could be?" so Jack made a deal with her. With what we know of Jack's character, this all actually makes sense. going along this story, I assume Tia said something along the lines of, "Take the compass, go back to your captain with it, tell him what I'm about to tell you. This compass will lead anyone to their greatest desire, as long as you remain faithful to it, and never give it up. Betray it though, and it will unleash your greatest fear, and it will bring a reckoning upon you! Tell that to your captain, and tell him this as well, that payment for the compass will be forestalled, but one day, the price will come due, and he will pay it in full, a fair price for such a compass." Now for the deal, you have to keep in mind that Jack was just a crewman, even as a first mate of a pirate captain, he knew he couldn't afford whatever Tia wanted for it, but he certainly didn't want to steal it from her without giving her something of worth, so Jack made a deal with the only thing he knew was everything to him, his future. Jack made a deal with Tia where the price of the compass would be paid when he became captain, he certainly didn't have the captain dying in mind when he said this, but this is what Tia wanted, as she knew Jack being the captain of the Wicked Wench in the right moment would save the all the pirates, and all the pirate lords who could free her, including Jack, the pirate lord who would swing the vote in order to make Elizabeth Pirate King, who would then decide to free her, from death. Jack bartered for it in the sense he knew it was eventually going to belong to him, after serving his captain for a time.

@@samcochran8203 Wow! That's certainly an improved version hahahaha. I love it! And I love that there are still people out there who love those movies ^^

@@bernatllopisvaldellou8244 I'm glad you think so, I also love that people are still in love with the story the movies bring us as well, but I'm also glad that basically all the ideas that I have along the lines of trying to fit in the new stuff with what came before, people seem to love them too

DevilHell97 Astronomy had pretty much just been studied. On top of that there was just on book that told where the trident was. The only plot hole I see is the fact barbosa had a tatoo of the constalation pn the book. which would be weird because he didnt know what the book was.

He knew about stars though... so it makes perfect sense.

I think that it IS his biggest fear lol XD

It makes me think of that scene after Barbossa stole the Black Pearl once again, and Jack is in that little boat, trying to figure out where he wants to go, so he pulls out his compass, but it promptly points at a bottle of rum he has with him, because that was what he wanted most at the time! XD

now imagine that - a pirate who lost all of his luck, covered by a mud, gives up his biggest treasure he had left, just to get some rum. bartender takes the compass, gives him the bottle. Jack opens the bottle. Compass starts to shine and vibrate in fury. The bottle is empty.

Oh my gosh, I completely forgot about that!

Sooo POTC 6???

They had about five years to plan what to include in the fourth sequel, but they decided to demolish whatever previously established and generate a brand new story instead.

Frank Bags letting them use it is still giving it away lol

Ou sen no its not. if someone uses your car doesn't mean they own it

No but your giving them the keys to drive it are you not?

Ou sen you are just an annoying troll

arizona pepsi water That makes a lot of sense!

arizona pepsi water what about the Kraken being his worst fear at that time?

arizona pepsi water makes no since

flames dboss well the kraken did chase him and killed him

+Ou sen Well at that time, he had the black spot, and the Kraken was coming after him anyway.

FriedEggs In Capt. Barbossa's case - I think he planned that in the case he couldn't find the last Aztec Gold and Bootstrap Bill Turner's son But then again, is there anything that prevents people who are cursed not able to touch the trident ? Because is that's so, Barbossa could of ended the Aztec Gold's curse right then and there by splitting the trident in half But I can't remember how the trident worked so, I can't say much about that

Hear, hear.

FriedEggs well I can answer the Silent Mary question. The directors say it was some force from another dimension, in the devil's triangle that possessed Salazar's crew and brought the Silent Mary to life. I dont know, I actually loved that ship and Sal's ghost crew was pretty neat in my opinion lol

jaeger nate I agree it "looked cool", but compared to the others in the series, this one felt very forced and lacking meat. In the previous films, Captain Jack Sparrow was clever, self aware, and methodical. In this one, he resembled more of a Mr. Bean/Mr Magoo/Inspector Gadget character. ..bumbling through the movie drunk, clueless and always seeming to get the upper hand on accident. Disappointing.

FriedEggs I believe Barbossa thought the Trident could control the seas It was after meeting with her daughter that he found out about the Trident also ending curses. Most of the characters want the Trident because the power to control the sea, not breaking curses

YES!! THIS IS EVERYTHING THAT BOTHERED ME ABOUT THE FILM

Disney is flawed right now! haha

If you can still make money off flawed story, why not if it's convenient and saves effort and time?

ThatWeirdGirl the writers and directors obviously ignored the story's timeline and canon and decided to do things their own way which is a tragedy in itself. The way it played out in the movie was cool for someone who doesn't know about the franchise well enough but for those that have done their research (seemingly you and I), it was a disappointment.

Max Zart agreed

ThatWeirdGirl the plot hole there is that Salazar was hunting only pirates, so young flashback Jack is a pirate

I actually liked the movie but I have to agree, it is disappointing that they forgot about all the estabilshed lore, specially the post-credits scene

Don't get me wrong, I loved the movie! But I hate it when (Disney does this all the time) they establish lore for a franchise (book, movie, game, etc) and then they fuck up their own lore! Like come on! Stick to what you write!

I thought so too!!!

Jack was _branded_ as a pirate by Beckett simultaneously with the sinking of the Wench (which, upon reanimation, became the Black Pearl.) However, this does not mean the Wench's crew were not in practice pirates before being formally recognized as such. They were most likely privateers, as we know the Wench's crew worked for the East India Company between Morgan's death and Jack's branding as a pirate.

just as long as Davy jones missed his heart he will be fine,this is because the Trident reverses the curses of the SEA. This means that the chest would still keep his heart alive if it was not mortally wounded

Yeah, he was stabbed and doomed to die before he succeeded Davy Jones's duty(curse?). If all curse would be undone, his heart should be still inside the chest, like the crawling hand stayed in the drawer in the COTBP even after the curse was lifted.

If the trident removes curses thoroughly, it can still only at most teleport Will's wounded heart back to his chest, turning him mortal and ready to die, for he got his heart stabbed before he was affected by the curse that ended up keeping him alive.

It is a huge plot hole after all. As you need ten lies to cover up your lie, you need ten excuses to cover up each plot hole.

This I can't explain haha

I completely agree will this!

Isn't Blackbeard's ship a cursed ship as well? I wonder if that ship turned normal after that trident went into effect.

Interesting!

Oh my gosh haha

True, but didn't give the ownership to him!

I completely agree!

You're right, how disappointing!

Very well said!!

True!

When he gave away the compass it was always for his own personal gain to ad him and what he wanted the most.

You're right!

I was cool with that stuff!

I liked this movie.

I don't think the movie is bad, but they really messed up the lore of the past movies.

You're garbage. This was one of the best ones!

This movie messed up nothing. What is wrong with you people? Unhappy with your own lives so you gotta turn everything negative?

@Molhedim are you always a little bitch or are you just trying one time to see how it feels?

He had the compass in the first. "It doesn't point north, but we're not trying to find north, are we?"--Gibbs, Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl. It became a major plot point in the second. :)

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Jack got his piece from his crew, so it was important, which is why he didn't want to give it up in AWE. Also in AWE, Gibbs said that the 9 pieces of 8 were just 9 pieces of whatever they had at the time.

Joshua Cole What i mean is, shouldnt the captain or someone else with higher rank kept that pieces, instead of some crew. and sorry for my english.

Moron LOLOLOL his piece of 8 didn't become a piece of 8 until the Brethren Court conveined

You mean like the wooden eye that Barbossa used? (Although, Barbossa's words couldn't release Calypso so maybe there was something).

You're right! And Jack wouldn't have been there because in AWE, they all talked about the first brethren court like it happened a long time ago. Even Captain Sao Feng told Elizabeth, "if I would have been there"... Yeah they should have re-watched the other movies.

Not if the movie is total garbage

Lucky for you, this movie wasn't. At least not according to the millions who've gone to see it and loved it!

Movie is entertaining, that I do not deny. But it is a fact that this movie brought upon quite a number of plot holes because this movie ignored everything that was mentioned in the previous 4 films... I had fun and enjoyed the humour, but at the same time I noticed all those problems WHILE WATCHING the movie and that bugged me throughout the entire film.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying a movie eventhough it's not a good movie (I enjoyed Baywatch very much). Just saying film making wise, there is a lot that wrong with this movie. It's not just the plot holes in this movie, but also that it ignores the whole franchise. And no I'm not even talking about Compass-gate The fact that 5 years has passed in the Pirates world and Will Turner's kid is 25, just doesn't make sense. The curse that was lifted of Will Turner would kill him instantly since he was stabbed in the heart. Salazars pirates were triple cursed? Not only trapped and undead, but also unable to get on land... Why? Whatever happened to all the crew from the previous movies? People can say that it's just a movie, but that's not an excuse for poor writing. And box office results are not always an indicator of a good or bad movie

Inconsistent Content actually 20 years has passed since the third film... third film had end credits scene that showed (ten years later where will comes to land for one day and meets henry and elizabeth) and stranger tides was 9 years ago in the timeline

Jesse Meyer bcs in the movie he isnt anymore that clever guy that can outsmart everybody and find a way out of everything but only a drunk idiot without hope, freedom, a crew, a ship and his beloved sea

Ok in the first movie he also hasnt these things but he had hope

AVF lol it was so weird. Like Jack Sparrow was a different actor. I think they waited too long.

Jesse Meyer he said 10 silver pieces

Shashi pol me 2

To prevent a lie from getting exposed, one shall fabricate ten more lies to cover it up. The same goes for plot holes. The bigger the plot holes, the more excuses or explanations you would have to make to ensure things sound right.

Thinking is the whole reason why people are in an uproar. They're overthinking the plot holes, even though they make sense when you piece everything together.

Well said.

No, it doesn't make sense, just like many other plot holes in this movie, which is full of them. Like Barbossa's daughter's age, Sparrow's piece of 8, his acquiring of the compas and becoming the captain of the Black Pearl, Will Turner's look and behaviour in this movie, if Barbossa knew how to find poseidon's trident then why didn't he do that, stupid plot twists made by someone with no ideas nor inspiration. And probably many more but I am not going to think of all of them. And saying that people who notice movie mistakes are dumb only shows your ignorance and probably young age.

Kakolukiam9863 after watching the movie 4 times I figured it all out using my 22 year old young age logic. Jack wasn't given the piece of 8 by his crew, he was given the bead strand that he wears in 4 and 5 (doesnt have the silver coin on the end). The compass was always his, the way the dying captain said "it points to what YOU want most" implied that Jack surrendered his compass to the captain bringing misfortune i.e. the Silent Mary upon them. Will turner is barnacled up because (as dark as this sounds) he keeps bringing his son back from the dead everytime they meet. Resulting in his inabilty to do his job (ferry souls) resulting in Davy Jones Disease. The Dutchmen's crew hate Will for that because he was on the verge of turning his whole crew back into sea monsters everytime he did it, and thats why he said it wasnt safe for Henry to be there. Barbossa didnt know where the trident was, he looted the book from a captain in a previous raid and paid no heed to its scribbles. His daughter is around the same age as Henry, Hector most likely came across Carina's mother shortly after at Worlds End (after credits are 10 years later). Its safe to assume shortly after his battle with Salazar, Beckett would formally make Jack Captain of the wicked Wench, where he would then take part in slave trading for the East India Trading company. Some things were different then the canonical books but the logic is sound.

But Jack's piece of 8 was cut off whole and burnt by Barbossa, not only the coin (what suggests that the whole thing was a piece of 8 not just the metal part). In 4th part he has it again although without a coin and he could just buy the new one to replace it but in 5th movie they behave like this is still the same which he was given when he was young even though it cannot be the same. (and where were the pyrate lords when spanish was whipping pyrates off btw?). The whole compass thing in 5th movie is very far-fetched and terribly written story. How could Salazar possibly know about the compass anyway? Turner's son wasn't dying... He was just locating the Dutchman and landing on it's deck. And Will wasn't fishy in the post credit scene in 3rd movie. Also there was kid's grandfather in the Dutchman's crew, he would like to see his grandson. And for the god's sake Turner is a Captain of the Dutchman, he can do whatever he wants, somehow the crew did not hate Deavy Jhones for what HE was doing and u say they hated Will. Barbossa indeed could not possess the trident because he did not have the ruby but why would he give it away if it is worth so much? It's not his style at all and how could he not pay heed to note's scribbles if he got himsels a tattoo of these stars if i remember well? I did not read books all i know about PotC is from the movies and yet there is still so many plot holes in the 5th movie that it simlpy hurt me to watch it. And that thing about the age was not to you but to Elias Crooker, honestly people with attitude like his really piss me off.

Star Trek Database hey how about you get off your period and get the facts straight

Ou sen He has his facts strait.... He is only angry because people are complaining aboyt stuff they dpnt understand. Salazar's curse only gets lifted if he betrays the compass. Befors he had every intention of getting it back, thus he is not actually betraying it.

Star Trek Database THANK YOU!!! Ou sen STFU you dense idiot

I believe that's the case but since he was no longer around it went to the next one on the list!

True!

But Calypso was the 1 who said he gave Jack the compass

good idea

You're lucky because you don't have to counter the mess the sequels brought to us.

True!

TK- 516 no if your ignorant like you can fill the plot holes

Please, all troopers return to your command posts!

TK- 516 If your a true fan you'll have read the books, which were considered canon. And if you have done that you would no that Salazar was made up for this film.

...which is exactly what the writers of PotC5 should have been doing from the getgo

If you're a true fan, you consider this PotC5 out of the franchise. Only the trilogy is canon, was and remained the true story narrated, not this soft-reboot. The prequel book "The Price of Freedom" was a better book than any sequel movie after the original trilogy.

Cooper Mdarlin your a MORON

Ou sen ummm, it's "you're". please, if you're going to insult someone for having a different opinion which you perceive to be wrong due to your own arrogance, then at least do it right so it is not contradictory.

Autocongirl no it's your you 4th MORON.

Barbossa was supposed to be a menacing and powerful pirate with depth and wit. Now they make him a loving father for his daughter, willing to sacrifice his life to save her. (It's as if the creators were trying to cheaply sell us, "However strong someone may be, he cannot resist family intimacy for a father's love for children is immeasurable. And here to our eyes and hearts, the Barbossa you all knew for years is also no exception.")

Hahahahaha

That all sounds very interesting, but where is this information from?

Yeah was this the original screenplay or something?

ThatWeirdGirl That story belongs to Jolly Roger. Not Salazar

ThatWeirdGirl you not even close

"it´s just a song", "it´s just a book" "just a painting".... dude. let people engage in their interests

"So who gives a shit about story and characters. It's just a movie, just produce some garbage to put on screen." That's not how it works

Kiuraz they do that all the time. Have you seen what's on a red box lol.