I really enjoy how thoughtful you are in these videos- genuinely critical, and not trying to just "pull down" the queens or the show/Ru. You also don't present all of these thoughts as being completely original/your own and instead are transparent with the context of the discussion within the fandom. It's really refreshing for drag race youtube. also Naomi Smalls is the moment. Now c'mon now.
@JackFedYT2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the kind words! The last thing I would ever want to do is tear down a queen or the work of anyone on the show because producing a show for millions to watch is a really tough job. I criticize the producers a lot of the time for their decision making and rigging, but at the end of the day I understand no season can be without a little manipulation. It's also easier to direct attention to the faults of the producers, partially because they have the most control, and because they are mostly nameless and faceless. Directing the bulk of negative energy I have towards people who don't really get affected by what I have to say helps keep hate low and vibes good. I try to never blame queens for behavior on the show or criticize their talent because who tf am I to say who can do drag. As for the content and originality, of course people are going to have overlapping opinions. It's come to my attention that people are calling copy cat on a lot of the drag race KZfaq channels as of recent, so I both try to stay clear of that and be transparent if I do unintentionally steal an idea. At the end of the day we all love the show and we are a really niche community. We will pick up on a lot of the same things, so if someone happens to come out with a "deep dive" style video I really don't care. The more the merrier! It's content I love to make and if people are inspired by these types of videos and want to emulate it in their own way, I 1000% take that as a compliment. I am just into really stylized video essays and want to improve that craft, so doing it on something I love like RPDR helps me improve on each video. Anyways, sorry for that long winded response lol. I just feel extremely rewarded and grateful that so many of you vibe with what I'm doing.
@keane21602 жыл бұрын
ikrr, i love how he doesnt overdramatize it
@emi-fr5mf2 жыл бұрын
totally agree! subbing rn 😌
@atandienando91212 жыл бұрын
🗞️
@skyco53952 жыл бұрын
wow naomi is really the wild card of both her seasons even while not having a kooky personality
@nara_saya2 жыл бұрын
She’s black horse of the season 8
@daniel66782 жыл бұрын
“wild card” really is the perfect word for her - you never know what to expect from her and her abilities
@CuckooGames2 жыл бұрын
Umm she literally was cocky throughout all stars
@daniel66782 жыл бұрын
@@CuckooGames I think they meant kooky, not cocky
@CuckooGames2 жыл бұрын
@@daniel6678 makes sense
@davidm23452 жыл бұрын
i’m shocked acid still hasn’t been on all stars yet considering she dominated 4/5 episodes she was in, was a fashion queen, and was a villain.
@hued25422 жыл бұрын
drag race is just so focused on conforming to the norm then shaping, so expect betty in AS8
@DearDanny2 жыл бұрын
I fucking adore Betty, her being a bitch doesn't take away her incredible talent and remembering what she did for Cynthia almost makes me cry
@kokomi2772 жыл бұрын
@@DearDanny what did she do for cynthia?
@DearDanny2 жыл бұрын
@@kokomi277 she took care of Cynthia when she had cancer
@jeanvanwanrooy1272 жыл бұрын
Betty is incredible. Her drag is amazing, stunning. I want her back! I was shocked she was eliminated.
@ait85512 жыл бұрын
The best part about Naomi's storyline is when she returned for all stars she absolutely killed the challenges she previously did alright or bad in like snatch game
@iandean11122 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. Her looks weren't clockable either.
@davidkonevky7372 Жыл бұрын
@@iandean1112 and the fact that she knew how to make them goofy and fashionable at the same time made her even more camp
@BobTheDragQueen2 жыл бұрын
4:05. . . . who are you talking about here? lol
@JackFedYT2 жыл бұрын
Betty! You ruled the show the entire time though. Also I’m freaking out that you saw this video and I love you so much
@chase-tt1xz2 жыл бұрын
omg bob!!
@Clublander322 жыл бұрын
ROBERTA
@poundcake6812 жыл бұрын
Come through Bob!
@emmymatt2 жыл бұрын
BOBBY TURNTER what are you doing here
@vinnie9062 жыл бұрын
"I don't think a single queen is cast on RuPaul's Drag Race just to get eliminated or fluff out the cast." Except for Serena.
@aaroncallahan1192 жыл бұрын
Lololol
@vevvish5042 жыл бұрын
The shade
@1934jackson2 жыл бұрын
It’s shady but true … especially in all Stars 6.
@hotsexyangel2 жыл бұрын
@@1934jackson True and I felt so bad for her. Her drag had really grown since her season and she didn’t even get to showcase it :(
@givemeliberty7002 жыл бұрын
Lets be real we all knew Serena was going home first on all stars 6
@TheGhostley2 жыл бұрын
Naomi broke both of the seasons she was in, i love when Queens change the system
@mirensummers76332 жыл бұрын
*club 96*
@yuililith Жыл бұрын
She broke the main series AND ALL STARS.
@andrewmelillo32352 ай бұрын
She's the biggest threat to the producers 😂
@mattveslino2522 жыл бұрын
I will die on the hill that Naomi is one of the few queens who's way more insanely competitive than what the show lets us in on. She single-handedly sent home the front-runners of BOTH the seasons she was on, and she did not hesitate to do so. I fully believe that she's also very aware of All-Stars' elimination process pre-AS5, and if you put her on any of AS2/3/higher positions on AS4, she would've done the same exact thing - send home the front-runner because she knows THAT'S how you play the game. I'm willing to be that if she was in a Top 2 on AS2, she would've sent home Alaska. If on AS3, she would've sent home DeLa, Trixie, and Shangela. And if Naomi won more on AS4, she would've sent home Trinity. Naomi is smart, cunning, and strategic - AND she has the skills and personality to back it up. She's more than legs and fashion, she's brains too.
@jhubeJELLO2 жыл бұрын
Would she had sent Trixie home? Trixies track record wasnt that great on her second run, either
@ppstar87 Жыл бұрын
@@jhubeJELLOagreed, shangela was definitely robbed imo😢
@mustlovebooknerd11 ай бұрын
@@jhubeJELLO People love to say Trixie's track record wasn't great but her track record was SAFE, SAFE, HIGH (would've probably been Top 2 if Milk hadn't sabotaged her chances), BOTTOM, TOP, BOTTOM (but only bc everyone who wasn't top was bottom), TOP. She was never low, one of her bottom placements was only by default (IQ Kitty would've placed higher than Diva Kitty and Sparkle Kitty), and even her "safe" performances (her performing one of the songs she wrote from one of her chart-topping folk albums and her as Dolly Parton) were pretty strong. I know it's all opinion, but it's kinda bunk that the perception is that she did a weak job when she did a pretty good job. She just got overlooked because Ben and Shangela were DOMINATING and her one deserved bottom placement was such a shocking and memorable fail.
@jaijaibinxno60642 жыл бұрын
Honestly Betty not being in any AS season's is homophobic, and Naomi not being invited as a lip sync assassin is also homophobic
@mirensummers76332 жыл бұрын
maybe she didn't wanna be, lots of queens have said since their season they don't want that stress again, would love to see more of her tho
@victorsartori2772 жыл бұрын
maybe they're saving Naomi for when they want a queen to lose
@ejirokirishima46042 жыл бұрын
I think this lip sync is the reason, that most of the front runners arent put in lip syncs early anymore, like gigi, shitty or sliky, just because of the fear they get thrown out and lose their narrative
@iain97572 жыл бұрын
Oh massively especially because they are scared the online fans will stop watching
@bongchoof2 жыл бұрын
gigi isn't a bad lipsyncher ffs. she did great in all 3 of the season 12 finale ones
@ejirokirishima46042 жыл бұрын
@@bongchoof yeah but she would have faced of against widow in a shaqa kan lip sync when everything would be fairly judged, she would have never won that
@sunnygolightly99962 жыл бұрын
@@ejirokirishima4604 *Cough* Widow *Cough*
@adamwenham32 жыл бұрын
and also Gottmik avoiding lip sync in the discomentary episode - i love her but they defo gave her a golden ticket to the finale
@TN-cn8kk2 жыл бұрын
The leaked footage of her accepting the crown “it’s about time a big girl won” always sends me cackling. She’s a smart, beautiful, grounded queen, who I think is unfortunately marred by the pulling of the Manila lipstick :/
@Juanmaligno2 жыл бұрын
She isn't really held back by the Manila thing though even when it aired it was a gag but not alot of hate for Naomi just people going the NERVE, also rupauls face when she said the big girl wins is so funny a literal face Crack
@jexzamycorpuz1472 Жыл бұрын
I'm from the Philippines and i wasn't mad when i saw it, as much as I love Manila, she brought it to herself , naomi only did what Manila said she'll do 😅
@iCodeSwitch8 ай бұрын
I've never seeeeeen this, and a whole year after your comment, I'm cracking tf UP
@MisterPoro2 жыл бұрын
naomi really done fucked up every season she was on. literally a legend
@Andre696262 жыл бұрын
I really don't care if there's a lack of drama. All stars 6 barley had any beef and it was probably one of the best seasons to date with everyone just being a great contender and everyone competing with each other rather than against
@achillesroblox2 жыл бұрын
ikr, season 12 and season 14 has those vibes too
@crunchevo89742 жыл бұрын
Naomi is still slept on, and ngl probably one of the funniest most entertaining queens to be on the show.
@caviersim38062 жыл бұрын
Snatch game is always such a wild card tho. Eliminating front-running queens like Max, River Medway, Lineysha and either Yvie or Brooke if it wasn't a double save
@iain97572 жыл бұрын
There could be a whole video on how Snatch Game is a key in drag race yet so many bomb it and it often changes everything
@sunnivaleflair35762 жыл бұрын
@@iain9757 I feel like everybody knows its key though. Every season queens talk about it
@achillesroblox2 жыл бұрын
Lineysha should've been in all stars by now
@Ylurple2 жыл бұрын
River Medway? A front-runner? 🤔
@caviersim38062 жыл бұрын
@@Ylurple I SAID WHAT I SAID
@andrewthomas86872 жыл бұрын
I would love a deep dive on Monique heart. And I want both Monique and Naomi back for an all stars again.
@JanAside2 жыл бұрын
Well guess what Mimi?
@coolstarxd152 жыл бұрын
Monique will be on uk vs the world aka international all stars 🙂
@jessicabw2 жыл бұрын
Ugh, LOVE Monique!
@velky_reeds2 жыл бұрын
you didn't watch All Stars 4?
@MJAYMONONOKE2 жыл бұрын
@@velky_reeds they said "back for an all stars again", as in ANOTHER season. So yes they have seen AS4.
@smartcam80952 жыл бұрын
This lip sync changed more than just Season 8, but the entire franchise. From that point onward, there has never been a queen who is a heavy hitter early on being put up for elimination early in the competition. Think about it. Gottmik and Shea didn’t start going in the bottom until past a point where it would be okay to have the strong queen to be in a lip sync. Shea lip synced one time before the finale, at a point where Nina was expendable. Gottmik is even a better case because the production knew already how she lip syncs; if she ever touched the bottom 2, she would be sent home in a blink of an eye. Season 13 made it so obvious too. They tested out the lip sync waters first, and they knew which queens to never let touch the bottom ever, like Gottmik and Rosè. They also knew which queens would do well in a lip sync and they could use, like Kandy and Symone. Utica and Denali being the unexpected lip sync assassins was a shock to the producers because both of these queens lost the beginning lip sync; it gave them the “expendable” sticker on their backs. Denali was a shocker especially to the production because she literally crushed the first lip sync. If you really think about it, Betty’s elimination was the push of the snowball that grew into the Boulder of the monstrosity that was Season 13 premiere twist.
@bruh243182 жыл бұрын
Tbf Shea only did bad in one challenge and was put in the bottom for it, I agree about Got Mik tho
@christopherbennett58582 жыл бұрын
I do agree to an extent. The biggest exceptions though might be Krystal and Bimini although Bimini's narrative was more about disappointment in the first few episodes before lighting a fire under their backside post break and Krystal was in a non elimination lipsync with Victoria so these exceptions reinforce the rule.
@MeepsNcheese2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherbennett5858 I would think that this would be different too since the rules for editing reality TV is different in the UK than in the US, isn't it?
@christopherbennett58582 жыл бұрын
@@MeepsNcheese Yeah. Plus, since its the BBC, there's no sponsors.
@Rtv498_2 жыл бұрын
@@MeepsNcheese its also different because the queens were shut down because of COVID and Bimini came back so much stronger than she was the first time filming
@CristinaF_LTHP2 жыл бұрын
What I loved most about Naomi was her maturity and ability to take criticism and make the changes the judges were asking of her. When she did poorly in the snatch game she did not make excuses for her poor performance. She completely owned it and even apologized. You could tell she was legitimately sad about disappointing Ru. I think that could have also been taken into consideration by Ru when he made his decision to let Naomi stay.
@marinemanaphy101 Жыл бұрын
It’s part of what makes her such a wildcard - of all the people in a room, you’re not gonna look at the tall, skinny, beautiful fashion queen and think “That seems like someone who’s receptive to some constructive criticism.” She defies expectations at pretty much every level, and in All Stars she proved that even her bad S8 Snatch Game was more the exception than the rule when it came to her impersonation/comedy skills.
@gildatheplant4 ай бұрын
Judges love it when queens take their comments seriously and make the changes to their performances. It shows that the queens respect the judges' opinions and really care about performing better. Naomi took the criticism to heart and immediately busted her butt. Contrast that with say, Robbie Turner. Michelle Visage criticized her week after week about her wigs not being put on properly, and week after week she ignored her. You could tell Michelle was getting seriously pissed off that her advice was being ignored.
@JaciintaM2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including a memorial for Chi Chi. She truly is missed more and more everyday. The world is a lot less bright without her.
@yegane82012 жыл бұрын
i think a deep dive about how Max was treated on her season would also be lovely!
@maca762 жыл бұрын
season 7 makes me so uncomfortable knowing everything that was happening behind the scenes, and like Violet said, she was read for giving boy just for using pants, and now anyone can use pants no big deal, in that moment Max was read for wearing grey hair? which i still remember because is so uncommon, its a really good brand, better than the blond wig most queens use imo
@yegane82012 жыл бұрын
@@maca76 wait what other stuff were happening behind the scenes tho?
@maca762 жыл бұрын
@@yegane8201 well first of all is obviously Max elimination, she was doing well every week before her elimination but they didnt like her hair and modesty so they made her look insane and prude. The face off Pearl and Ru had made Ru despise Pearl and she kept her on the show so she could "break her spirit" which she said in a podcast with Michelle. Having Kandy Ho almost edited out feels wrong, i dont really like her but so much people forgot she was even there. Production was on a weird shit andnit shows in the storylines they decided to push while Ru was being bitter against the queens
@amybess8 ай бұрын
Please
@montagne58252 жыл бұрын
Here after Bob asked JackFed who he was talking about at 4:05 👀😂😂😂
@Jamieswiftie132 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for this, LEGend Naomi Smalls changing the game on both of her seasons 😌
@briansherrod19162 жыл бұрын
I’m also pretty sure she’s never lost a lip sync either. Naomi is a phenomenal queen. Beautiful as hell!
@canoligreen922 жыл бұрын
I would love it if you also did a video on Naomi's arc in all stars 4. She did really well in almost all of the challenges and basically broke the season by eliminating Manila.
@smurfyboy922 жыл бұрын
I've always said that Acid Betty's elimination hurt season 8 as a whole. She was someone who did really well prior to her elimination and I believe would've continued to do well afterwards. She could've even potentially made it to top 3 but we'll never know. PS Betty should've been on All Stars by now
@ToriCake952 жыл бұрын
Acid Betty for all stars 7!
@jamiestreet78342 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so actually. I don’t think she could do very well in the political challenge as I think she would just be overly mean when the main focus is to be comedic. I also think she would struggle with the makeover as I believe she would not know what to do with her parter.
@evilhagwannabe18202 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure she’s top priority on the casting list for all stars 7
@_peepee_2 жыл бұрын
she needs to go to therapy first imo. i want to see her grow
@danielmirica58462 жыл бұрын
Acid Betty is always on their list for all stars but she is refusing to do all stars.
@WrenWyvern2 жыл бұрын
POV: You’re searching by new cuz u wanted to see the Bob the Drag Queen comment
@notthis.88692 жыл бұрын
One thing I hate about the drag race community is that people always complain about seasons 7,8 and 9 not having enough drama. For some reason some people believe that if the queens actually get on then it’s not worth watching, and that the season should be shitted on. I also think that it’s important to note that some of the most iconic queens to ever be on the show where on these seasons. I might be biased because these are some of my favourite seasons, but I thought it was important to point out even if it’s a little off topic
@1bwash2 жыл бұрын
People on social media need to realize too that what they complain about online can become a wave of criticism which will impact how the show is created and produced.
@sunnygolightly99962 жыл бұрын
I mean season 11 is full of drama, and it's one of the most bashed season.
@biazacha2 жыл бұрын
Also some of the most beloved queens do share plenty of good shade but aren’t around making everything toxic - can you imagine if Katya, Shea or Adore were super bitter?
@maca762 жыл бұрын
i loved season 12 except for the Aiden "drama" which was pretty tame compared with others, i love to see the queens as sisters helping each other because it really reminds me of the rl drag shows where if something happens lots of people will try to help you
@joefreeman30872 жыл бұрын
And let’s not forget that Ru literally copied the dress Naomi made and wore it in the promo for the very next season.
@Natalie-zi4di2 жыл бұрын
The scene in Untucked where they all do their walks for each other and dance together really solidifies season 8 as one of my favorites. It's so wholesome and, personally, I'm just as invested in seeing queens become friends as I am in the drama.
@adrianhocquard11492 жыл бұрын
These deep dives are insightful and illuminating, please keep coming up with these I love it
@johnmichaelarnaud2 жыл бұрын
Acid Betty is one of my all-time favorites and an underrated contestant. Her entrance remains the gold standard for me, and I wish we'd have gotten to see so much more from her.
@danielperez082 жыл бұрын
Super high-concept! She’s her own vision. She also produces a lot of visual work for work the world
@alex-ut1rh2 жыл бұрын
it’s a crime that she’s never been on all stars
@melodramaniac27632 жыл бұрын
Naomi is such a legend. The way she was slepped on on AllStars 4 while she was so consistently good all season… I hope we can see her in a future international all stars.
@benafferton81232 жыл бұрын
no lip sync has ever caused such a shocked reaction out of like the naomi vs. acid betty one like it was the biggest shocker to me EVER
@shanesevv2 жыл бұрын
Naomi, Thorgy, Kim Chi, and Chi Chi were SUCH class acts
@abj69202 жыл бұрын
"A bad first leg shouldn't define a queen" well thank god she has two marveouls ones! I say this every time she comes up, but it makes me a little sad that she makes her brand about her legs... They are great legs but COME ON that rain or shine lipsync is fucking phenomenal! She is a FUCKING performer!!!
@leonardleyes92782 жыл бұрын
here after bob mentioned this video on the latest episode of sibling watchery and this. is what we need on drag race yt. thank u for giving naomi the flowers she absolutely deserves! much love to your channel i will be binging!
@ULikeMyP2 жыл бұрын
Now Bob mentioned this video on her latest episode of sibling watchery drag race season 8 episode 6. Bitch you famous! Condragulations you're the winner of this day's internet
@RNCHFND2 жыл бұрын
"I don't think a single queen is cast on RuPaul's Drag Race just to get eliminated or fluff out the cast." I think the bigger point to be made about this is that they definitely cast about a third of the cast of heavy-hitters and save some great queens to future seasons (and then 2/3 are of queens cast on each season are of queens who are still not there yet) but then some fillers end up doing better than expected (Naomi, Heidi, TKB on All Stars) and some heavy hitters doing worse (Shuga Cain, Tina Burner). This is clearer on all stars, when they already know what a queen can bring. They filled AS1 and AS2 with ONLY heavy-hitters and some great queens ended up getting fucked because of it (Pandora, Nina Flowers, Ginger for example) and now on more recent seasons they pad the cast with CLEAR FILLERS to send home first (Serena Chacha, Farrah Moan, Milk)
@ross80932 жыл бұрын
I've always seen people paint Shuga as a queen, who if filler queen is a real thing that was what she was meant to be. But she out performed what they expected and stopped giving her her dues. (I will say the challenge she got eliminated in made no sense for her to be in the bottom for, which is why I thought that was a decently accurate opinion)
@javaman26142 жыл бұрын
shuga cain was put on her season as a filler? thats why she was put in the bttm in the magic challenge because shuga did not have a storyline but she also did really good so it was conflicting cuz even tho she was doing much better than vanjie they couldnt send vanjie home bcuz of the comeback storyline and brooklynn relationship
@june_c49702 жыл бұрын
I have never fully understood why people don’t like season 8! I loved the individual personalities of so many of the queens!
@RNCHFND2 жыл бұрын
Can I give you a tip on a subject to cover? I saw some commentary about it on Reddit but it seems nobody covered it. It's how they've been trying to get a big girl to win since season 7, setting up storylines and such but it never happens. (Ginger, Kimchi, EurekaS9, EurekaS10, Silky, S**** Pie, Kandy, Ginger and Eureka AGAIN on AS6 and will probably happen again with Kornbread).
@JackFedYT2 жыл бұрын
I’ll see if I can get a script going!
@skyco53952 жыл бұрын
and then fans shit on a big girl winner even if her win was completely valid 😞 like lawrence
@dompedror2 жыл бұрын
ginger (both s7 and as6), as6 eureka and kim chi could absolutely be winners, though. they did well enough to be crowned
@fittinginisforjigsawpieces31412 жыл бұрын
@@dompedrorwell, I think what happened with each of those cases was; Kim chi- Bob completely crushed the competition and was one of those instances where it would've been mad to crown anyone else. Ginger s7- they were pushing for a young fashion queen the entire time, dragging pearl and fame though the competition and violet was exactly who they wanted as a winner Eureka and ginger as6- they really wanted to crown Kylie, so the other two kind of got brushed to the side along with ra'jah
@alex-ut1rh2 жыл бұрын
This was sooo crystal clear in AS6. Also I know it’s early but I’m ready for Kornbread to win already LOL
@djkelleher54322 жыл бұрын
They talked about your video on Sibling Rivalry today!!!!! Congrats on your hard work!!!
@machu_22 Жыл бұрын
Season 8 is probably one of my favourite top 4s along with season 9’s just based on how positive the vibes were
@bradleestop2 жыл бұрын
here watching this again because bob name dropped this video in the latest video of sibling watchery!!!
@therobotdevil2284 Жыл бұрын
"Are you cinched?" "No, I just have a really fat ass." That sent me.
@migvault2 жыл бұрын
Season 8 was top tier drag race
@migvault2 жыл бұрын
Also I really liked this video essay good job :)
@_jordanslyric2 жыл бұрын
I’ve met Naomi twice at my job here in Chicago-she remembered me the second time she came in and complemented my weight loss. The last time I saw her was literally the week of AS4 when she eliminated Manila. I told her good luck and she thanked me and said she was gonna need it. She took a pic with me both times. Such a lovely girl.
@myfriendisaac2 жыл бұрын
*”Naomi Smalls is 1 of my favorite queens to ever grace the screens of RuPaul’s Drag Race.”* 💯 LOVE HER! She’s always UNBOTHERED & very *Posh Spice* about the situation 👠🤷🏾♂️♍️
@abc1direction2 жыл бұрын
virgo to a T ✔️
@mm_mela48162 жыл бұрын
I never knew i would be a total die hard fan for Naomi. She is a good at lip syncing and is a wonderful model queen. Whenever i see her, im always hypnotized 😭
@bartek77332 жыл бұрын
Jesus, I literally love your video essays about Drag Race 😩 Keep em coming
@crimson11942 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the way you present those videos. Im no expert on that sort of stuff but they are very pleasant to watch!
@marcoc73882 жыл бұрын
Could we say that Bimini was another case of producers adapting? She could've been another Elektra Shock...
@JackFedYT2 жыл бұрын
I cut part of my script on the elektra video that talks about Bimini making this comparison. I couldn’t word it properly but I do see a lot of similarities
@marcoc73882 жыл бұрын
@@JackFedYT I mean, the only weakness Elektra had was some of her runway looks (just like Bimini on the pre-COVID season), blossomed on the Girl Groups challenge (that Elektra should've won) and dominated the second half of their respective seasons. (with only one challenge not being that great [makeover-design]). In a fair world, Elektra's track record should've been: bottom-high-win-high-win-safe-high, and both became fan favorites. I do think production could've actually adapted to her sudden improvement.
@redduskironsky10582 жыл бұрын
@@marcoc7388 well if we analyze the awful corner they put themselves in, they had to rush in a new frontrunner who wasnt part of the more dislikeable ones left, and between Elektra and Kita, they chose the one who had less beef (which was continued to be fueled by fucking Racist Adams only, because Art was neutral and Karen was on Elektra's side most of the time). Producers backed themselves into a corner in which Kita was the only option for the crown.
@marcoc73882 жыл бұрын
@@redduskironsky1058 OMG. I didn't realize that actually, Karen kind of supported Elektra sometimes.... that's so sad. 💀
@redduskironsky10582 жыл бұрын
@@marcoc7388 yes, thats why I couldnt understand the decision production made in the girl group challenge. You saw the queens actually rooting for Elektra, Karen being the one queen they gave confessional time saying Elektra deserved to win this episode because she has worked so hard and she was rooting for her...and what happens? Producers decide to stomp on all the queens and go for a very stupid narrative about how outshining your peers is suddenly such a bad thing. You can really tell these producers had one and only one queen as their favorite and that was Racist Adams. Lets face it. Karen and Art as much favored as they were, they were kept for two reasons: Karen was such a hyped queen for a lot of people especially after Tracy Martel name dropped her to her fans several times, and people liked Art at first, because her drag looks were so good, she had a following already and she was 'robbed on episode 2(?)'. I dunno if the producers were racist too or what but it always felt so icky how they took Scarlett's side every single time Elektra opened her mouth on any episode, by the end of the episode they somehow make her got the last laugh over Elektra even the episode she finally won a challenge. Going so far as to eliminate the one queen who was on her side at first and then turned on her once the topic of her blackface shit came out. The season was so gross and I hope all those producers were permanently removed from their jobs.
@AchroMinion2 жыл бұрын
It was pretty much expected, but the "...unless you're Joey Jay I guess" at the end killed me 😂 The only Filler Queen we need
@haunted142 жыл бұрын
The positivity of this season is why it's one of my favorites. It has a ton of fantastic queens and they're all friends. There are small disagreements, sure, but it was just such a fun and warm vibe between the girls and combined with the massive amount of talent, rewatching it is a joy.
@daniel66782 жыл бұрын
love this. not only because I love naomi and I'm glad to see her get her flowers, but also because this is the kind of really thoughtful, respectful, well-informed analysis that is SUPER lacking in the rpdr-verse. hope to see you do more videos like this
@m00c0w2 жыл бұрын
Bob mentioned this video on the latest episode of Sibling Watchery! (S8E6)
@calipeixoto11532 жыл бұрын
I think when someone that is doing VERY well on the season and flops on the lip sync, a double safe is fair
@Kayworx2 жыл бұрын
S8 was the first season of RPDR that I ever saw and it'll always be my favourite season. And Bob will always be my favourite drag queen from the show.
@Allanatheedoll2 жыл бұрын
Omg! I auditioned for this season ! What a great season this was, it was one of the smaller casts in herstory. Naomi is iconic from the moment that promo came out, I had no doubt she was going to make the top. Loved your video!! 💗💗
@paulojrneto2 жыл бұрын
Also can we all agree that Causin' A Commotion is a widely underrated Madonna bop?
@vilvile2 жыл бұрын
I went in this season underwhelmed by the “meet the queens” impression of Naomi, and I liked Betty from day 1. However, I thought it was fair for Naomi to stay in that lip sync and her spot on the top and AS is beyond well deserved. I wish newer seasons were bold to do this vs. saving favorites.
@daveparker63332 жыл бұрын
Have you been trained as a historian, Jack? I ask, because I AM a historian and I teach it at the college level, and this video provides exactly the type of context I would provide if I were doing an analysis of a program like this. Excellent work!
@EdTheCreator2 жыл бұрын
Season 8 should’ve had a comeback episode or let this be the double save. Either way we were robbed of not having Acid Betty’s Book ball, black/white, and wizard of oz runway. #TeamNaomi
@chrissycorrea59672 жыл бұрын
I was so sure they were going to bring Acid Betty back in her season. Not to win but to stir the pot and bring some looks. Maybe they didn't because Season 8 was so short. 🤷🏻♀️
@RubyConn2 жыл бұрын
We don’t need drama, we need entertainment. Drama is more readily available reality tv resource, but entertainment is forever.
@gobbylynn8382 жыл бұрын
Naomi is one of my faves as well. I got to meet her at a club for a m&g a few weeks ago and she was one of the sweetest and loveliest people i've ever met. Her performances were AMAZING that night too 🤩 i love her
@xxapxo2 жыл бұрын
Bob mentioned this video in the sibling watchery episode! :)
@TheYouPoop2 жыл бұрын
Bob gave you a shoutout on watchery!
@TimVerhaal2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the fact that the top 4 didn't have any drama with eachother, they just had their own journey and got along in the end.
@checkersabrina212 жыл бұрын
Possibly the best video I've seen so far regarding Drag Race. More deep-dives please!
@JackFedYT2 жыл бұрын
Oh damn. Thank you so much!
@aingha2132 жыл бұрын
i love naomi sm by far one of my fave ru girls ever
@johnvarner55362 жыл бұрын
This is content I haven’t seen any other Drag Race KZfaqr dive into that I really love and would love to see more of. Moments/lip syncs that change the trajectory of the seasons. I’m sure there are more to look into and I’d love to see your breakdowns of them.
@MakaylaPaterson2 жыл бұрын
Edit: season 8 is one of my favourites. I don’t like constant drama in anything, to the point where I can’t watch untucked. I thought the good vibes later in the season was wonderful to watch. I absolutely love Naomi! Even in her OG season I thought she was phenomenal. I actually really loved how she kept to herself, yet stood up for herself when needed. She’s so much more than just a pretty face (and killer set of legs)! Also very glad I found your channel. It’s respectful, informational, and entertaining. Keep it up!
@imaminxkitty2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry there were moments in this video where I kept having to rewind to actually listen to what you said because I kept getting distracted by Naomi. She's so fucking beautiful omfg
@MrMartiallen Жыл бұрын
I too love Naomi Smalls. Huge fan of her.
@simplicitylost2 жыл бұрын
“Remember: It’s easy to hate, but it’s a lot more fun to spread love.” Aw, I love that.
@chadgray31502 жыл бұрын
Betty is one of my all time favorite Queens, in the Uniqueness categorie she is heads above the rest. Love you Betty
@richmondrealingo73212 жыл бұрын
Detox Deep Dive. I feel like of all of the crownless queens, she is the most deserving.
@stevengornall9342 жыл бұрын
She definitely should of won as2 not Alaska imo
@kelp58012 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Acid vs Naomi lipsync was a huge turning point in Season 8 and now i realise (thanks to this video and other user's comments) that it also changed the whole show since they dont put frontrunners in the bottom at early stages of the competition anymore in fear of them getting eliminated . Im happy you made a video about this fact. Btw i think Robbie should've been in the bottom instead of Acid but whatever 🤷
@Ranoldopereztroika2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you used the example of Electra. She was treated like garbage.
@autumn32462 жыл бұрын
this is such a good analysis. i completely forgot that naomi was in the background for part of that season because she made top 3.
@naomismallswasrobbed81292 жыл бұрын
my girl finally getting the recognition she deserves 🥰❤️
@skyvenger77242 жыл бұрын
You're deep dives are actually really good and you give a more serious side to the dragrace fandom content (other than edits and rankings)
@Tim.Mitch.952 жыл бұрын
I always thought Betty would've been in Naomi's place if she had won the lip sync. But still, Naomi proved her star power, especially during and after All Stars.
@domdhp2 жыл бұрын
Truly one of the best lipsyncs. I have such incredible memories of watching this specific episode in a bright white hotel room whilst on a work trip and being FLOORED by how amazing Naomi's performance was
@bafbaas12102 жыл бұрын
To me Noami seems like so quietly confident, like she knows she is amazing and doesnt need the whole room to know (although if they have working vision they probly will)
@ladonmarcellus35612 жыл бұрын
this was back when the producers cared about it actually being a competition
@RR-qz3zg2 жыл бұрын
I love Acid Betty. Her drag is so underrated
@midgelywid2 жыл бұрын
I love this analysis! Super smart, even-handed, and compassionate
@averyeml2 жыл бұрын
You had me hooked the second you dropped the truth bomb of “they don’t put filler queens on, it’s all down to editing.” I mean, think of how many queens must apply for this show, why would they waste a potentially great show character slot on someone the go in thinking has nothing to offer?
@Laughingwithtravii2 жыл бұрын
s8 was so good omg.. sometimes i forget how much i love these shows. being around since the start, crazy how much its grown. i wish i was as into it still, but man, great memories. edit: also this naomi moment was just as good and iconic as sharons blood mouth moment honestlyy i said what i said. she really is a treat i love her sm. she gave the girls everything they asked for and more. its delicious. think it was my favorite final queens as well. and rip chi chi, my favorite southern queen. being a lil gay from kentucky i was rooting for her from the start, but naomi won me over truly. this was such a cute vid thank you!
@charlestrinidad17312 жыл бұрын
I agree with the “narrative” concept overall but I wish the show’s producers would stop manufacturing edits and let the entire show run on its own. Edits really matter and they should stop creating false narratives and unnecessary drama. I disagree with casting filler queens tho. There really are some queens, as you said, were casted too early/the queen themselves weren’t too “marketable.” If that were the case, wouldn’t it be better to not get their hopes up and cast them at all instead of giving them the disposable queen edit?
@elizabethjohnson63862 жыл бұрын
No because everyone loves when the underdog does big things. And then Ru gets to take credit for bringing them out of their shell and when they flop, no one's really surprised. And bringing in too early queens is a great way to set up great All Stars casts later once everyone has seen their potential. They come back with the growth storyline. I do honestly think it is very likely they intentionally cast queens that they know aren't going to win overall but will become fan favorites. And I think they cast queens from smaller cities or less-known (or less experienced) queens to have a larger spread of hometown favorites, knowing they'll probably go out early
@alessandrogarofalo49362 жыл бұрын
I disagree cos its a reality tv show and we cannot have things flow naturally because the season wouldnt get interesting in the long run, expecially on US where the queens start to be the same archtypes the more years pass. Yes the producers should stop these double sashays, lipsync twists that no one want but storylines need to be pushed otherwise the outcome Is obvious. Acid going home was when bob was crowned and that happened naturally. Carmen winning 3/7 challanges and 4 minis while the other contestants had two bottom each was a dead end for storylines.
@daveshif25142 жыл бұрын
Imo having “underdogs” is super important because if the season was too fair, it wouldent have the drama of seeing someone unexpected do really well. Its not the best thing to do but in a show you have to use everything available to make it entertaining. Balance isnt entertaining
@Aman-mf2ml2 жыл бұрын
I remember really not noticing Naomi when I watched season 8 for the first time, till the makeover challenge!! I was geniunely confused-
@roseghould2 жыл бұрын
This video really made me rethink some things in terms of drag race. I really let my guard down and just let the show take me wherever they want without actually taking my own opinion into account. I think it’s so I can avoid giving up on a season if the queens I like don’t make it far but that’s not the point. The point is that I’ve always had the feeling that Naomi is a great queen but I could never actually put it into words and now you’ve done that for me and I’m grateful for that
@brettrigby22262 жыл бұрын
betty needs another season! Shes living art everytime she hits that runway and we all know it!
@gerald95472 жыл бұрын
season 8 is so good, only 12 queens, only 10 episodes, all entertaining. best season after season 6.
@immrbrightside725 ай бұрын
Just came across your channel and had to tell you of my run in with Naomi Smalls at the historic Stonewall Inn circa 2012. There I was, drunk, with my best friend, a rabid Drag Race fan. Suddenly a woman falls. I hear her head smack a corner and she's on the ground. Blood is gushing. We're all too drunk to think clearly when suddenly from the dark back room saunters over Miss Naomi in boy mode barking orders. Sends me off to get a first aid kit, has my friend call 911, is down on the floor with this somehow alive woman, holding her hand while the EMTs get her on a stretcher. They're gone, Naomi turns, thanks us (????), and asks if we want a picture. I tell her I love M.U.G. and we record the intro. That video ends up on her Instagram page. Dying woman never gets brought up, no idea what happened to her. Love Naomi. Big fan.
@mimisway2022 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed season 8. I rewatched it multiple times along with season 2,3,5 & 6. The cast's personalities more than make up for the lack of drama
@MrCyberGal2 жыл бұрын
Jackfed being a snacc? A welcome treat.
@lucybickerton45732 жыл бұрын
Bob doing the shot gun act out was sooo funny
@wrenpen2 жыл бұрын
naomi deserved better on as4 she slayed almost every single challenge and only won once. but holy shit when she won.......she went OFF
@antoniosantos96692 жыл бұрын
We cannot forget that the season was super short so they didn’t had a lot of time to build stories for some of the queens