That’s awesome let me know what you think when get it on rivers I like hearing the feedback

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Yes so true thanks for feedback

Great feedback wolf

Just get aggressive with it and I think it’s well rounded kayak

I like the code over this one but this one still pretty good all round

I agree I’m a rocker lover at this point kinda hard to go back

Thanks

Yes for sure and thanks for the feedback always like hearing what others think of these boats

Good point. I am a 30+ year part time boater who likes 2+ (3) water. I got to that level and never wanted to go higher. I did some 3+ that was actually more like 4 and it scared the crap out of me, even though I made it with only an occasional flip but got up with a combat roll. Different skill levels will have different experiences with the same boat. Also, keep in mind that flat water kayakers won't even paddle white water, no matter how easy. And then there is the IK crowd, who physically can't paddle a hardshell. (or they are just to scared to be upside down) So the kayak industry needs to keep making boats for the weenies that the pros hate. I have seen newbies move up to better boats and harder water, but more of them just quit the sport @@WadeHarrison

I do have zen moments at times yes

Yeah buddy glad I could help

Bigger volume rivers and loaded with gear Z3 all round river running with ability to blast over everything go Code

Yeah that volume will definitely take care of you a lot thanks for the feedback

I also paddled the first zen they are so drastically different

I use resistance bands I rarely use weights anymore my workouts are nothing special trail running and resistance bands for chest back and I have a kettle bell I use time to time for lifts

Yeah this one or dagger code 2 top boats from just taking care of you floating down river might look at the wavesport Phoenix it’s pretty wide has a rail on it not as forgiving as the zen or code but I’m sure it’s available in Norway

@@WadeHarrison Thanks Wade! I'll have a look into them

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Hahaha just the tip the rest was green

Z3 on Creeky runs with a lot of quick must make boofs scorch on bigger volume runs with big volume drops and holes to punch I like the scorch way better then the Z3 so i would choose it on anything really and the Code would be the next choice

Yeah I think the boat does get somewhat of a bad rap because it’s so ugly up in the bow And the guy that I was with is Boyd he has KZfaq channel called send school

Class 3 and 4ish

@@WadeHarrison Thank you!

You can’t go wrong with the Nirvana it’s a great boat I paddled one a lot

@@WadeHarrison I'm loving it so far as my primary boat. Hope to see you on the river some time.

I rolled it at the end of the video it’s not the easiest to get back around on that volume

@@WadeHarrison Yeah I just caught that, I guess I asked that question a little prematurely lol.

Z3 handles better in all types of whitewater in my opinion the machno great on steep creeks but get pushed around in the flow

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Very different I think it’s a improvement over the older mambas it’s right there with the Code but I liked the code a lot better The hybrid hull and the bow and tail rocker puts the code over this one to me anyway but this is still a solid boat for everything

It’s very flat in the hull and on this river is not got a lot of big drops I did run the single drop and it hits flat very easily so anything getting over 25’ i would really try to keep that bow down

The one I paddled in Chile was actually flatter than the one in this video. Some slight crown was added to the hull in the production boats that followed (I had the very first one off the line). That said, I found boofing ledges and drops less forgiving and made sure to stomp them, but had no issue with stern taps. On the big drops in Chile, Demshitz for example, I had super soft landings. It's been handling big waterfalls quite well actually.

@@CleanLineKayaking thanks!

@@WadeHarrison thanks for the reply

😂 maybe if fill it full of water

😂 your not wrong thats why we see him Antix everything or Nirvana he paddled this boat very little from what I seen then it popped up for sale little while back this was totally not his style of kayak

Dane paddling this boat is like a Nascar driver - driving a Geo Metro. Its a lot like the short school bus that I drive for a living.