Thank you Wade!

Yeah for sure!

Yeah I love me some coffee ☕️

Thanks Judy yeah seems Aquabound really making a go at a high end whitewater paddle to me these are the next evolution of the AT which some will live and some will hate just like the original AT

Awesome like to hear your feedback

its really good JK did a great job on this one

Thanks And yeah curious what the sizing will be on that

Thanks

This color grew on my I wasn't a fan when first seen it.

Yup and 😂 tough sell MM2.0

😂 love it

Hahaha! My Flow arrives mid-Nov (😂). Can't wait for next paddling season! (I'm in NH and it's time to gear up for fun in the snow.)

@@pinkpackraft enjoy your Flow! 🤣

Thanks and agreed this was a great improvement from JK

Yes, I would but those are very difficult to find and when I do they are trashed out no outfitting cracked ect think about it what dealers has demos in those so then it's like your down to find someone that owns one and willing to just let me use it and I don't get that many days on the river here lately and I sure don't want to spend them in crap kayaks for yesteryear I always try to get in a kayak that is like iconic if I can but there's only a few out there.

I’m curious also how that will turn out

Yes, makes it difficult to choose from

So true sound like a broken record but dam all the boats out there now days are just really good

I really like the flow and I’m around 180 so feel the size was prefect

there are a few used ones out there for sale

Literally just ordered from your link!! I’ve been looking for a boat for couple of years to compliment my braap on bigger water, but can’t stand the thought of going full on creeker. Dane sold me last week, but I was not gonna do it until you gave your opinion!!

THANKS Scott appreciate that let me know how everything goes with the boat!

YUP Exactly where I feel this boat will fall that's kind of what the Zen line up was meant for really.

Well since you let it slip. What is in your humble opinion the best Jackson Boat ever made and why is it the Antix 2.0?

Thanks buddy!

Yeah I have the klingon also I have been very impressed with the Ace I went XL and it works on everything

Yeah the size is spot on with this one

just order one problem solved coloradokayak.com/collections/whitewater-kayaks/products/jackson-kayak-flow-whitewater-kayak?ref=wade

The gnar to me feels like it was balanced weird like way to much bow and the stern was narrowed off which made it ride like bow up bobbing all over the place with not so good tracking and aesthetically the bow was very uncomfortable to look at while paddling 😂

Yeah they have made their largest ones way to large

And agree Jonny O is awesome 😎

I disagree. They don’t do a medium and xl, there are some of us that need the boats to have some leg room and the antix large doesn’t have much room. I do agree that the larges can be too wide (monstar) is my playboat, and it’s a lot to manage for my 36” waist but please don’t take away my leg room :)

They have some the best color combinations out there

Hahah work with what I have you buy me one I will put in on different rivers I had a demo so why not do something quick on it and just to note there’s 100 other videos out there with this boat on every type of water it’s definitely a really good all round design thanks for the feedback

🤔 interesting take on that

the flow is light years better

Yeah mate it’s a very well mannered craft

@@WadeHarrison Do you know who designed it?

@@gemmawatson6100 The same team that designed the Antix 2, Rockstar V, and Gnarvana: David Knight & Tony Lee on shaping, directed by Clay, Dane, Nick, and myself. Lots of input from lots of others too. I'm really stoked on this boat :)

@@stephenwright8779 Whoop, the designer has entered chat! I knew there was some Clay Wright in there somewhere! We have low volume steeps here, and this boat looks like it's going to be composed in the kind of places where I need it to perform - not seen anything else offering the low volume steep creek performance I need for quite a while, so this is definitely on the list if I can get one down here! Nice work - never (ever!) been enthusiastic about a Jackson boat before.

cheers!@@gemmawatson6100

Will see if can make that happen

yeah, they did good job on this paddle, and I just drop a crossbow in on eddy turns to keep the bow from slipping.

@@WadeHarrison nice!! Gonna have to give that a go, been slipping out of eddys since I started hardboatin! Thank ya

for out there yes this is perfect

DEFINITELY the L these run small

Any thoughts on the flow vs an OG? Performance, stability, forgiveness…

I'm going to say have to give them a call

UH FYI Thats no ordinary SUP'er look again that's @DownstreamVCreations formally eddyline creations channel Matt Wallin

Exactly I like the ripper 2

Sure go buy one and have at your own review good luck borrowing/demoing one and telling them hey I’m going to go class 5 remote creek is that good 😂 see you in a few days and there’s 1000 videos of this model out there on Dane-O channel running stoutest stuff in the world so your covered Thanks for watching and for the suggestions

Yeah these just hit the market like today so probably going to have to build up some inventory

Different but Kinda the same both are shorter Playfull creekers but feel the hammer is more performance overall in play and the flow is more creeker and more well-rounded for everything, but both can de either.

No this is closer to the reactr then the Indra

This is the Charolette Whitewater Park in North Carolina

That’s interesting 🤔

@@WadeHarrison short stable creek with well defined edges, turns on a dime, is fun for river running... surfs. Sure it's modern design, but similar concept

Yes, I have been using it for over a year and still holding up great I recommend getting the XL cockpit size. Here is a link its seriously half the price of the IR Rand amzn.to/3tj5qh3

@@WadeHarrison thanks! I would buy from that link but they don’t seem to have an XL cockpit size available.

@@WadeHarrison I bought a level six Ace and the threads came out on the front left (about 6" worth) after my 5th or 6th use. Now I have to go through some long warranty process, send it in and wait, etc etc. Won't be buying Level Six again. Never had issues like that with IR skirts.

Yes, I paddled it on the Cheoah

It’s great all round paddle

I like where this thing is so far I want to give it some more time before doing a full review

I have probably paddled 100s of different kayaks at this point more then anyone ever so you just get a feel for different things with boats really in the back you will feel it drop back and with the front you will feel that volume up there floating

That makes sense, thanks man and good video! @@WadeHarrison

Yes but it’s got like a kick rocketed tail so you don’t have to add massive bow rocker when you do that just lean back slightly and it lifts

I tell you it’s where the volume is and what they did on the gnar was put most in the front so a heavy paddler would be making it left up out the water a lot the flow is very balanced end to end so distribute the weight better

the hull width/float on the Flow is really made to perform best at a Medium weight range. The Gnar Small's hull starts acting in ways that it wasn't intended to once you're over the weight range--creates a longer waterline, harder to turn, more edgy feel, less stability, harder to boof, etc... It's impossible to get a sense of how "big" a boat is just by comparative numbers. make sense?

@@stephenwright8779 how much over the wt range would u say the small gnar acts differently. I'm 5 6 162. Currently paddle a,zen 65 which only 25 inches wide and way less volume. Considering a small gnar which 26 inches wide and 80 gallons. I imagine it would feel more stable then my zen 65. No? I'm a low/ intermediate paddler. Any insight would be appreciated.

@@daviddeleskyhhjhhjjhjh9391 you should really try them. I'd recommend the Medium Flow over the small Gnar at your weight. FWIW I'm 150-155 and paddle only JK's medium boats--including the Gnarvana. Those numbers don't really tell you much--it only tells you the width measurement at the widest single point--not the width of the hull or how much of the boat is actually that wide. A boat with a maximum width of 26" could be less stable than a boat with 25" max if the rail-to-rail width is less or if the 25" wide one actually stays wide for much more length of the boat--make sense? It's been a long time since I've been in a Zen 65, but I'd guess that the Small Gnar might have less initial stability than a Z65, but much more secondary.

@@stephenwright8779 Thank you for such a,quick reply! I may demo and go w the flow! I think it may be the better choice stability wise. I'm a,class 2/3 boater that values stability over play. Yr explanation makes sense. So I guess I'll save a little more money instead of trying to save 2 hundred or so and be happier in the long run.

They are great huh

way sportier better rail engagement Sorter and slower but its better kayak overall from the Nirvana

Charlotte Whitewater Center in North Carolina USA

Thanks wade! Any recs for a similar white water park in Oklahoma? I’m a retired raft guide in CO looking to re-learn my roll in a controlled environment, and it’s getting chilly out here. Thanks & your vids are great 🤙

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