No

Just said you don’t like the game more on with your life

@@Themasktrooperwhat?

splash dash please give me a shoutout or cameo on your main channel please

Yo Splash Dash, I have a question: What do you think of Sonic x Shadow generations?

Man I love it when they bold face lie straight to my face. Really makes me proud to be a Sonic fan.

They REALLY think they’re speaking for Sonic fans

@@anonymouslucario285 That's a loaded question when it comes to this franchise.

They didn't even say that

2.5D Never looks better with 2d games

Do you hate the prolgue animations?

@@anonymouslucario285I don’t think they hate the prologue stuff, they just want that shit in the flipping game (granted I haven’t beaten it so maybe if you do beat it, you get like videos where you can watch the prologue)

This is the stupidest fucking thing to complain about

@@anonymouslucario285the animations are objectively good, but they feel like a bandaid for a more fundamental problem

​​​@@anonymouslucario285There's nothing wrong to add a prologue, animation or books, but if there's something that adds up to the story, *then why not include it in the game to begin with,* even as a bonus cutscene later? Just look at Balan Wonderworld. To know the *how* of the story you need to understand the *why,* and the only way to know the why is to read the prologue book to understand everything. In other words, the book contains the beginning and explanation of the world, while the game only contains the middle and action of the story. It leaves you "Huh?" as you play. Don't get me wrong, it's a cool concept and *can* work, but the execution is very difficult. And Sonic Superstars, while the animation did alright as a bonus as the start of the game tells you what you need to know, the comic has some stuffs I would like to see that's only in the comic, like how Trip got in that situation to begin with.

Hell even Origins and Mania 😭

Honestly, would probably play Mania 10 more times before I played Superstars again (I say that like it's a punishment but I'd likely have more fun all 10 times).

or 4 sonic prime figures

You can even get the bundle with team sonic racing on switch

Or even better, Sonic Frontiers

Sonic Advance 2 did this too actually

​@@deanmoriarty6015that's true!

@@deanmoriarty6015Sonic Advance 2 only had 1 boss that did that which was the Egg Saucer in Sky Canyon. Also I think it’s dumb how Super Sonic losses 5 rings just from dashing which is necessary to attack or dodge obstacles. None of the Advance Games did that. Talk about a Super Sonic nerf.

​@@brandonwilliams6119and that bosses are bad for that. Don't know why they made 3 bosses in Superstars be the same. Such bad game design 💀

Also the level design is complete ass. Ah yes, my favourite sonic level staples like a slow anti-gravity sections, or playing as a squid, mouse or rocket, or being forced to play fantasy zone for no reason. There's just nothing really interesting in them and they get longer and worse as the game goes on.

And we can't also forget about those Capitain Toad levels in Super Mario 3D World of the Wii U Version.

@@nelsongood3480Yeah, tho the port made the decision for Cap. Toad to be single player the right move

But the Toad missions only show up in singleplayer, they don't show up in multiplayer and then force one single player to complete them.

​@@nelsongood3480Just the Wii U version? Are you telling me the Switch port removed Captain Toad? WHY?!?!?!

​@HOTD108_ No, unlike the Wii U version, in the switch version, you can do multi-player in the captain toad levels.

ngl that was most likely done because of sega's cynicism thinking that they can turn a game not designed around multiplayer into a multiplayer game

bro this game doesn't even work with 2 players. mind you the og classic games worked just find with 2 players. sure tails would be left behind but at least it worked. hell SONIC 4 did a better job at the 2 players. Honestly that 2 players were fun this is just abysmal

Sorry people aren’t breaking into a fit of rage over something that can be easily avoided…..I guess🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

​@@Jackattack359bro multiplayer was the main selling point and its borderline unplayable, it should at least be criticized, or at least mentioned.

@@micahfurlow2624 he said it should be “torn to shreds.” I’m pretty sure people who play the game are smart enough not to rage over that when they can just play alone

took you that long?? 💀

Fr I'm still stuck

You have to memorize the attacks, I know it’s difficult but remembering the attacks can lead to practice!

Always when i hear someone talking about the fang Boss fight, the guitars start playing in my head and i imagine that one meme of the trash cans dancing. But since i never got to play it i don't have a actual opinion on the gameplay. Is the boss really that bad?

@@rodrigomusicman1871 All I can think about is the beginning of Fang's final boss theme and those stupid nets that trap you and have to be gigamashed out of to stay alive.

More like being close to idiots.

As a regular LS Mark viewer, I'm just constantly waiting for Mark's avatar to show up

​​@@ironiceireSplash Dash should definitely commission some stills from his buddy LS Mark, i heard he's a *grand* fan of Sonic JUST like him, hell, they sound so alike as well!

This joke hasn’t ever been funny and Mark has LITERALLY admitted he’s Splashdash… find better material.

Yeah, their video styles are very reminiscent

Genuinely really sad that even sonic 4 episode 2 could get online co op while the 60$ brand new title couldn't...

@@nixter3196 But Sonic 4 Episode II's multiplayer sucks though

@@AccelerateHedge , It's actually quite fun if you can get it to work, with emphasis on if. It took my sister and I hours to get the Bluetooth connection to work, and once we did we were only able to play it for a few minutes before it disconnected.

@@33pandagamer Huh. Maybe I'll give it a sho- wait, no, why would I be playing Sonic 4 in 2024?

​@@AccelerateHedgepeople still play sonic 4 in 2024, like me 😂

That's what I'm saying. Get some Sonic Adventure guitars in there and this could've been a slam dunk but what was used makes takes a lot for me to say it's good, especially that beginning.

@@castform7 I would say someone say to Sega, this isn't the 90s anymore, but when you consider that the Mega CD was a thing. And Oshima himself directed Sonic CD, I really don't know why they're so hell bent on enforcing these restrictions on the games' sound. It didn't sound good in Sonic 4 from over a decade ago, and it still doesn't sound good here.

Jun Senoue is a really talented composer and arranger, just take a listen at Sonic Adventure 2 or Sonic Heroes OSTs, but it's like he purposely limits himself to stupid genesis synths and the vacuum vst

The mistake Sonic Team/Arzest made was to make him the lead sound designer for this game, yeah, the melodies he creates are probably the best in the series, but they really should've left the arrangement job to someone more credible, like Tee Lopes

I genuinely think that 3D Sonic platformers like Superstars should actually try sampling real instruments, it opens room for so much more possibilities, and Bridge Island Act 2 is a perfect example of how much more soul the level has with the real rock guitar

The best games don't need to tell you stuff explicitly and just organically guide the player through gameplay, art design, and narrative working in beautiful harmony together. Unfortunately, the Sonic Team staff seem to undergo a game design memory wipe between each new release going back over a decade now.

@@HOTD108_ superstars isn't made by sonic team. But you're right

No. Sonic games aren't supposed to be good at game-to-player communication. *sob* And after they did so well teaching Frontiers's Rocket Boost purely visually…

@@playbossthebest936You do realize it was a collab, right? And it isn't just Sonic Team; Sega as a whole has terrible internal and public communication, so it makes sense their games would follow suit. And even if it were just Arzest, Ohshima's still ex-Sonic Team, and by his own admission isn't that good of a gamer. Probably not the best guy to have in charge of the meat of your game, as Yuji Naka found out the hard way. Naka may have his own problems, but I suspect he'd been largely scapegoatted throughout his career. Even the insider trading thing may have been a bum rap; supposedly he was accidentally (or not?) sent the "dirt" on the games that inspired the trading and hastily mistook it for public and fair info. And the timing of the first arrest was curious as he'd just claimed to have proof Square Enix was lying in court over Balan, as was the fact that a second arrest occured so soon after the first one failed. I guess all you can do in that situation is play ball the best you can.

A hand drawn artstyle would have been sick

Would be better if Evening Star developed it with the hand drawn style and there you have another classic masterpiece like Mania

@@canalluisedan5436 evening star lowkey has been tryna make kunuckles' chaotix 2, look at everything in mania and tell me that game was not heavily inspired by chaotix

​@@canalluisedan5436too bad they were already working on Penny's Big Breakaway `\_(' v ' )_/`

I’m pretty sure they talked about having a game developed by Evening Star, but it was never official, and as far as I know, that’s not the reason they switched from having a hand drawn art style.

Sonic fans are SO spoiled when it comes to music that anything that's just "ok" or "alright" is considered flat out bad. 😂 Show these tracks to a non sonic fan and they'll just think it's alright.

@@JudaBoisonic 4 ahh sounding music 😐 (imo)

Everyones been saying this, what r u actually talking about.

@@sinfulrat287 I’m talking specifically to the sonic fanboys who won’t accept my opinion that I dislike the game and write a 3 paragraph essay explaining why its better than mario wonder

@@JudaBoiUhhhh… yeah, because the music in Superstars is in the same franchise with is shit like Angel Island, or Chemical Plant, or Studiopolis, or you know, LIVE AND FUCKING LEARN FOR GOD’S SAKE, so “ok” or “alright” music in terms of Sonic is inexcusable, especially since Superstars actually has good music such as the title screen and intro, Bridge Island, Pinball Carnival, and Lagoon City, so it’s not “being spoiled” to want better music from a franchise that’s extremely popular for its music

Same. I also think it’s WAY too expensive. They better not charge money for a “plus” DLC. however I have been playing it recently because of the Shadow costume. For some reason I still have some fun playing it. But overall it’s just ok imo Also hello again lmao

to me, superstars is just a simple decent distraction but plagued with awful load times and boss fights

@@mehiloll Yeah, but you know SEGA, they will definitely charge for DLC, and knowing what happened with Origins, it’ll most likely be $10, they’ll probably even take a step further and charge $20 for it if they feel they can get away with it, still think the game itself is fine, haven’t played it currently because the final boss of the main story burned me way too hard but might get back into the game to beat it Also hey man, didn’t expect to see you here lmao

@@RefreshingMirage Yeah, I can definitely see them doing that. I paid $70 for the game + Digital Deluxe, so that could easily be $80-$90 just for an overall okay-ish game 💀 Also we must have the same interests or something because I see you everywhere now, hope you’re doing well

@@mehiloll I guess we do, been a silent viewer of many creators for a couple years now, and only started commenting over two months ago

Yeah, those special stages really aren't bad

I thought Mania was pretty boring, I really don't understand the love for it.

@@biohazardbinMe neither. It’s so overrated and generic.

@@quangamershyguyyz7166I have 11 days on that game I think it’s a masterpiece

Git good

I'm still stuck on the first DLC Tower. It's too hard, and the lack of checkpoints makes me very upset. (As a note, I am very aware that I'm not good at playing platformer games, but that's kind of besides the point)

@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259superstars sales flopped

it’s wild that you can tell exactly which parts of the game are finished just by looking at it. the differences between a stage like Speed Jungle and Golden Capital are insane

Nah bro it fell apart at the title screen

Given Arzest's less-than-stellar resume (Yoshi's New Island, Balan) of platformers being critically panned, I'm amazed they still get hired to make them

Hey, it still counts as jumping over the bar, even if said bar is at the center of the Earth. 😅

​@@bluedogz1624didn't they make Hey Pikmin?

@@bluedogz1624 Naoto Ohshima's studio working on a Sonic game? I know, crazy!

The difference between Sega and Nintendo varies between how they handle their technology and use it to the best of their ability. Nintendo is crafty with their hardware and have their best programmers, to make the best with what they got. The late Satoru Iwata managed to compress the entire map of the fictional regions Kanto and Johto for Pokemon Gold and Silver. Other staff members involved with the project didn't know how to make room for the game to have two regions in the same game before Iwata stepped in. They have very talented people, and they have an often-reasonable time for their development of their games. Mario games always were successful, because of the work they put in to work out all the kinks as they possibly can, and their upper management does give them suitable time, delaying their games if necessary. Sega or the guys at Sammy Corporation has a hasty agenda that often screws some of their games. The developers do push themselves to the limit, but sometimes it's the kind of developers who has yet to master their skills placed in project better suited for other developers or their higher-ups are still giving any involved in game development terrible crunch time and want them to get their games out for holidays or some other ridiculous idea and put a higher price tag on it. Sega never learned from their failures when it comes to Sonic, or most of their franchises. They seem to struggle on what they think would appeal their demographic, sometimes they get nowhere and have to start over.

Iwata was such a Chad​@@leon4000

@@SERMareep2007 He was that and more til his last day. I'll never forget what he's done in his life. More people should strive to have the kind of mindset he had.

Sonic Team are incompetent bafoons if you haven't noticed.

Both these series don't need too try they have dug so deep into gaming and pop culture in general that making bad games simply isn't enough too kill them only difference is Sega knows and Nintendo might not know that yet also they got miyamoto who I heard is very strict about making mario a success

So, Sonic Frontiers revived Modern Sonic, and Sonic Superstars made Classic Sonic worse?!

​​@JoseGregorioValeroVillarroel Classic was always in good condition until superstars. Pretty much recked all the good mania did.

They inverted people's views of and hopes for 3D and 2D Sonic respectively.

hot take but the frontiers story is just trash it really isnt as good as people say it is, and im concerned if ian flynn is writing the next game

@@salmonhead1650 Insane hot take indeed. Forces was more your style huh?

It doesn’t actually? That’s so stupid

@@smt64productions40yeah. Unfortunately if they did add online multiplayer they would probably go down the Sonic 4 route where despite having online multiplayer it still had every one locked to the same screen

I think they still would have made everyone play on the same screen, like NSMB2 did for some reason

It would be cool if it had an online multi-player, but it probably wouldn't fix all the game-breaking glitches.

So one art style is timeless, despite very pointedly being based off very specifically 90s graphics, while another art style is just inherently dated? Seems a bit arbitrary but I'll bite. What's your justification?

@@HOTD108_ Mania's artstyle isn't based on very spefically 90s graphics, it's timeless because it's basically replicating drawings people have done since dawn of time. Meanwhile 3D graphics are clearly specific to their point in time and become dated extremely fast.

It also has really ugly lighting. I honestly thought it was a mobile game when I saw the reveal trailer. I'm surprised how bad it looks considering Sonic Team already figured out how to make beautifully lit stages more than 10 years ago.

Here we go again with the Mania praising.

@@biohazardbinGet a spine, you have to be completely delusional to think that the hand drawn sprites and Tee Lopes music are overpraised

Fr man, kinda remind me of odyssey and forces coming out close to each other.

@@GLXY23I had that same mindset as well. Both having the same outcome as well.

All you have to do is state which Sonic eyelid color you prefer. That or make any comment about how you like one Sonic design over the other.

That’s because sonic is not just the games. Wether people like them or not the other mediums of the franchise also affect how many people care about sonic. The movies specially affect how and how many people see sonic. If I could make a comparison it would be Spider-Man. Yeah, the main product is the comic and it’s not doing good right now but it has so many shows and movies that the franchise stays popular.

Most Sonic games that aren't an 7/10 or even an 6/10 just goes to show how badly the franchise is getting into. The last Sonic game we ever had an 7/10 or above is Mania and that was made by the fans of Sonic that knows how to make an quality game.

I became a Sonic fan in the first place due to the stories in the games, it definitely wasn't because of the gameplay. Witch says something about the franchise as a whole.

@33pandagamer Don't take this the wrong way. But story has never been the series strongpoints. No matter how good or bad it might be, gameplay will always be important no matter what.

That’s all good questions I was wondering about too. I been into Sonic since Sonic 1 in the 90s, the shows and even the Archie universe… But, I found that Sonic really has never been popular in the Japanese market in comparison to the US and other countries where he is WAY more popular since the start. I wonder if being located in Japan as primary development makes them have issues connecting with what audiences and potential audiences may want to see over here. They seem to be just making whatever based on what they assume fans over here want, but not really listening or devoting resources to research, lol! But like you said, there is potential, but I often wonder what game they could make that would be appealing to not just the core audiences but attract outside audiences. Sonic’s appeal back in the day to early 2000s was being different from other games mechanics’ wise, and pushing systems graphically with iconic memorable tunes. Sega doesn’t seem to be applying much resources on that. 😅

Agreed.

Honestly, the decision for Captain Toad to be single player in the OG version was for the best

New Super Mario Bros looks better than this!

At least New Super Mario Bros artstyle is just bland and uninspired, instead of crossing the line into bad. I wouldn't even say Wonder changes that it's ultimately the same artstyle it just highlights how important presentation is which is definitely something superstars lacks completely.

@@Whispernyan Even that isn’t true. New Super Mario bros at least it’s consistent. Homogenized yes, but uninspired???

​@@atre5763 It feels like you're trying to use uninspired as a synonym for bad when that is not the case at all. I don't know how else one can get to the conclusion "Yes they might all have the same general artstyle, but that doesn't make it uninspired". The opposite of uninspired, is inspired, what is inspiring about NSMBU's art style, the fact it's inspired off of itself?. It's all been done before, that's the issue, that's what something being uninspired means. If it lacks the soul it's not inspired, there's a difference between being inspired off of previous work, and copying it and an uninspired art style is one that just copies without making anything itself.

I would say more akin to Sonic 4. In which in this case, this game might as well be known as Sonic 4: Episode 3.

It’s not really just them either. I think the thing is that I don’t get why companies think scrolling through artbooks with a controller is better than just making a paper copy to put inside the game’s box beyond just saving money.

Yeah Persona 5 Strikers had its artbook in a redeem code for a separate application too.

It’s fundamentally flawed bc the game is trying to be a multiplayer game , but it’s just simply not for sonic in this form

@@raydaks6383 No. Superstars is a single-player game with multiplayer component. Marketing prioritizing one mode over the others has no bearing on its competency as a game.

honestly the music doesn`t seem so bad...neither does the story either tbh. Heck I didn`t even mind the bosses, at least they weren`t pitifully easy.

​​@@jaydenc367agree about the bosses. While some of those were kinda boring, mid or just bad(the autoscroller fang boss, and al of the final bosses) I rly like the bosses overall from this game

@@Hyp3rSonic Yeah I like them overall too.

>Level design is pretty weak, worse than Mania >Emerald powers are horribly designed gameplay wise, very situational, if you get hit while they’re in use too bad you lost your powers, making them a poor attempt at evolving 2D sonic gameplay >Boss battles are horrifically bad, drag down playing through the levels since they aren’t their own separate acts, and has the worst final boss of all the classic games which is hilariously impressive >Bad graphics with poorly done lighting making the game look very generic and looking like a 3DS Game >Trip is a hit or miss character, making her be one of Ohshima's weaker designs, she could end up like Marine the Raccoon >OST is poor, having many forgettable and poorly received tracks by fans

@@squallleonhart9387 >The level design is pretty good actually not weak, and it being worse then Mania? So? Mania was peak so that isn`t really much of an issue. >Nah they are well designed gameplay wise, they are mostly pretty useful actually, so you getting hit while they`re in use somehow makes them badly designed??? That is literally how power ups usually work especially in platformer games, by that logic is Super Mario Bros poorly desigined? >Boss battles really aren`t that bad, well...the final boss is something though and how is that impressive? Classic games final bosses usually aren`t bad. >The graphics really aren`t bad and the lighting isn`t poorly done and the game doesn`t look generic and it doesn`t look like a 3DS game. >Nah she is a good character, nah her design is pretty good tbh. > I dunno...the OST really isn`t that bad.

And it is an classic Sonic game of all things?!

Sonic 1 has more of a story than all of superstars 🤣

​@@naitsabes6222hot take maybe, but I'd say superstars has way too much of a story than the classic games

​@@kaxcommentssomethingREALeven worse: most of the story isn't even explained in the game itself

​​@@naitsabes6222And it was actually better than Superstars "suddenly I can use the chaos emeralds" story xD

​@@kaxcommentssomethingREALThat's precisely with me with Sonic Adventure 2 and onwards. They tell way too much story and gets very confusing on what the heck is happening.

Splooge

It is bad

The boss fight lengths genuinely confuse me so much. Did they play test that?

​@@KgEclispe252It ain't

shits like a 6 at best. and for 60$ and only being like 6 hours long thats not going to cut it.

i disagree

To think that an Apple company understands the fundamentals of Sonic than Sega/Sonic Team does

@@KgEclispe252 First off SEGA Hardlight made Dream Team, Second, Sonic Team didn't make Superstars, maybe watch the video before commenting next time LOL.

@@BronzyPlayz Sonic Team helped developed Superstars with Arzest

​@KgEclispe252 It's almost as like the people working on games at Apples or other Ipod males an better Sonic game than Sonic Team or Sega themselves.

dream team is pretty good but i find myself playing frontiers more, its a more impactful game dream team was just "oh that was pretty good!" but nothing standout

from what i know, or if i'm getting this right... Ian is heavily hinting that either Mighty or Ray could make a comeback in some future 3D title, but somebody should fact check that (on his Bumblekast) edit: OH NO i am so sorry, i remembered that he hints Mighty & Ray MIGHT get their modern counterparts showing up in IDW sometime in the future! not in a brand new game sadly, but this brings me hope that other classic characters can make a comeback in modern titles

But he was never in the modern games Are you confusing it for his appearances in the Archie Comics?

But he was never in the modern games Are you confusing it for his appearances in the Archie Comics?

@@shinbeet.5708Mecha Sonic appears in the IDW comics with the Modern iterations of characters, so it is possible for Classic Characters to cross over into the Modern day

That was a lie!

I completely agree with your statement. I don’t really like the bosses but I really love everything else. People are really picky about sonic games and this game look so cool. The story is pretty good even if people don’t like it, it’s cool they added dragons having them go to an island of giant animals and having multiple campaigns. People need to calm down

@@thebrickbros.1294 The reason why people still feel down about the game to an extent is the fact that Sega can't seem to manage their games well and more importantly, stop trying to complete their game developments by the holidays when even the devs know that Sonic Superstars still need time to work out the bugs. They have a terrible knack for making bad decisions during game development which does harm the series.

Yeah. Bring him back and then make me hate him because of that trip final boss

​@sahaprocks7751 you genuinely hate him now?

It’s called a joke

Maybe him just being a cameo in Mania wasn't such a bad thing after all.... At least the Triple Trouble remake does him justice i feel like

@@Duskool are you saying sega should have forgot about him?

my thoughts exactly if superstars was a $20-30 game that just had the main story, bosses fixed to be multihit and then the last story, sure it'd have flaws but it'd be really good still trips story really soured my view though

I disagree. Most levels are hit & miss. The first couple of zones were good. But afterwards, it goes downhill. They introduced so much gimmick, doing the most arbitrary thing like pushing blocks to turn on switch and other arbitrary stuff that's not entirely focus the emphasis of speed. It's really annoying and slows the pacing down for quite an while. An 6/10 is more like it.

@@jaretco6423 the only other thing I find somewhat arbitrary is the mouse puzzles in cyber station zone. Everything else, agree to disagree

The last level before the final boss was wack

This game makes me love Mania even more.

and Knuckles

Hey don't diss the 3 hey pikmin fans win the world

@@SilvieSteamDon’t forget those Yoshi’s New Island fans and they’re favorite baby song from that game that I’ve heard is one of the worst songs in video game history.

@@brandonwilliams6119 oh yeah, music is awful. game itself isn't half bad though

Hey pikmin is really good thi

And balan wonder world

Sonic Twitter is a wasteland of toxic positivity and blind praise

​@@deanmoriarty6015they'll bitch and moan about the tiniest of details that don't matter at all (like the length of the quills or the fucking MUZZLE CURVE) but the second they get hit with actual glaring issues worth complaining about they turn a blind eye and praise it because "they had fun with it" or "it's a step in the right direction"

​@@deanmoriarty6015ah yes, simply liking a game is considered toxic and blinding get out of here lol

people ate it up because they can, we shouldn't all have the exact same thoughts on a game

​@@kao7143I don't think that means people should just ignore major flaws in game. Especially when said community has a history of being extremely critical.