Jaguar F-type vs Porsche 911 Cabriolet | evo TRACK BATTLE

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Tiff Needell takes the latest F-type V6S around the Bedford Autodrome, to see how it compares to the Porsche 911 Cabriolet.

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@TheBrokenEclipse
@TheBrokenEclipse 10 жыл бұрын
If I had the luck of standing in a situation where I could pick either of them, I would go with the drama: The Jaguar - laptimes really don't matter much in the real world, here it is all about how the car makes you feel, and in my opinion the Jaguar got that in spades over the Porsche. Of course the Porsche is amazing as well, nothing drives quite like it as far as I have been told, but those few % extra in drive-capabilities doesn't compare to the drama of the Jaguar - which of course also has to be the V8.
@JWL-UK
@JWL-UK Ай бұрын
You were right 10 years ago and still are. For the ultimate drama and driver engagement, nothing beats the V6 manual. Asked me how I know 😊
@MattMaranMotoring
@MattMaranMotoring 11 жыл бұрын
Even though the Porsche is faster, I think I'd rather have the Jag. I wish we saw more of Tiff, his reviews have always been some of my favorites.
@UALHVY
@UALHVY 9 жыл бұрын
I've driven both recently (along w/ the Jag V8s). The Jags were much more fun on the street and garnered lots of attention. The sound is incredible on the V8S.
@ViirHolm
@ViirHolm 11 жыл бұрын
What I love about Tiff is that you can tell that he absolutely loves what he does for a living. He's having a ball
@TheBrokenEclipse
@TheBrokenEclipse 11 жыл бұрын
I love the energy and the passion that mr. Needel has every time he reviews a car
@Zombikilla10789
@Zombikilla10789 10 жыл бұрын
is it me or is the f-type just beautiful
@TheFlyingPineapple
@TheFlyingPineapple 10 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I'd say it's definitely a handsome car, but not beautiful one. Beautiful Jag's to me are cars like the E-Type, XJ120, early XKR's etc. The F-Type to me seems just a bit too short and a bit too wide. If I'm honest, I much prefer the styling of a hard-top 911.
@DocRobotKey
@DocRobotKey 10 жыл бұрын
Another Convertible that is stunning in the flesh; much more so than on a monitor...
@snowman2009
@snowman2009 10 жыл бұрын
Hers a cold hard fact for you. Porsche is 3 seconds faster. But, how often will you be on a track to test your cars lap time? A lot less times then accelerating from first gear to second on every traffic light and hearing that Divine sound F -Type makes. F-Type looks good, it sounds better and it turns heads a hell of a lot more then another 911 Porsche that looks like every other 911s in the last 20 or so years. F-Type all the way
@mechmat12345
@mechmat12345 10 жыл бұрын
***** Exactly.... wrong. In 20 years when the F-Type is gone it will be remember and a beautiful classic, and the 911 will still be a boring looking douche-mobile.
@mechmat12345
@mechmat12345 10 жыл бұрын
Old man car. LOL. It really doesn't matter what you think though. Only a certain type of people like and drive Porsche's. If they were 'just' old men, they'd be lucky. But they're not.
@mechmat12345
@mechmat12345 10 жыл бұрын
"They can't all be douches" Yes, they really can.
@Chris-nn4ss
@Chris-nn4ss 10 жыл бұрын
mechmat12345 You do know youre completely disproving your whole "douche theory" by being the narrow-minded porsche antagonist ranting against 911's like they picked on you in high school. By the way, predicting F-Type will be a classic in 20 years is nothing short of a joke Lol.
@rousseau327
@rousseau327 10 жыл бұрын
Eugene Gostnikov Another cold hard fact: it's not the 3 seconds you want. It's the ability and the manner in which the 911 gets that 3 seconds that matters.
@DocRobotKey
@DocRobotKey 10 жыл бұрын
No surprises here, except how well the new F-type performed as a first run car. 911s have been constantly upgraded for decades, and the F-type is new... The middle F-type model with the more powerful V6 would have been a closer race, but you race what is at the track at the time. Good to see Tiff still hanging it out on the track too...
@bobbarrett2631
@bobbarrett2631 Жыл бұрын
Was this not the middle F-Type model, the S ? Unless the power to weight figures are very similar (the Jaguar weighing in at one hundred and sixty kilogrammes more.) how can you compare, fairly, these two cars? Have to love Tiffs enthusiasm; and what has this man not driven.
@RandomName..
@RandomName.. 11 жыл бұрын
One of those guys that should never Get older. Got to love Sir Tiff reviews always brings excitement to those who possible will never be able to drive or own such machines.
@f2bclown
@f2bclown 9 жыл бұрын
I love Tiff. Every video should be with him
@vincentas
@vincentas 11 жыл бұрын
always love tiff's reviews
@JWL-UK
@JWL-UK Ай бұрын
Nice review! Anyone who's got the chance to own an F-type is a rather blessed person. I got a V6 manual and it's awesome.
@rjtdbf
@rjtdbf 11 жыл бұрын
Tiff is just such a good driver and reviewer. Awesome review.
@ShiroSky102
@ShiroSky102 11 жыл бұрын
I'm enjoying every minute on this review . Tiff is great
@jef722
@jef722 11 жыл бұрын
Great video as always from Evo
@Kprawl291986
@Kprawl291986 11 жыл бұрын
OMG!! one of the best review today keep up the excellent work =)
@mojojojo911
@mojojojo911 11 жыл бұрын
I like how Tiff commented on the steering feel not being as great as the porsche's, and also pointed out other cons in the F-type. Whereas, reviewers like Autocar neglected to mention any of those things. Way to go Evo.
@TSracer1
@TSracer1 11 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@BearachMT
@BearachMT 11 жыл бұрын
Nice one Tiff. The best review of the F-Type to date (you didn´t feel like Land of Hope and Glory should have been playing in the backround) and there wasn´t even any on road driving. Just ability, enthusiasm and honesty.
@alej469
@alej469 11 жыл бұрын
Love the video - the best F-Type themed one I have seen so far!
@soubido
@soubido 11 жыл бұрын
love watching Tiff drives
@deancostello14
@deancostello14 11 жыл бұрын
Tiff really is a driving God. Everytime I see him behind the wheel of a car he's a magician.
@carspotter11
@carspotter11 11 жыл бұрын
Wow , I haven't seen tiff on TV or KZfaq In a really long time
@mehdiadlany
@mehdiadlany 9 жыл бұрын
I have seen both on the road; yes, the F-Type is a real head-turner in terms of exhaust sound and looks. Yet, the 911 has an undying appeal, a breathtaking minimalist design that is only appreciated by a true Porschephile; just look at its proportions and (perhaps) you might understand why Porsche doesn't need to change its design. Allow me to digress, have a look at Apple's design, they don't change something that is good - change is always subtle and incremental but never drastic. Porsche's design is quite understated, and it really doesn't need to go blitz, it's a car that screams "Nothing to prove!" Those who buy cars just for the sake of looks or attention are simply those who have no clue about cars!
@uptone12111
@uptone12111 Жыл бұрын
Great narration while driving-F-type is still my dream car
@savas_s.
@savas_s. 11 жыл бұрын
We love Tiff reviews!!!
@647killa
@647killa 11 жыл бұрын
glad ppl like u understand wut fun driving is. kudos.
@sammyhtb
@sammyhtb 11 жыл бұрын
did tiff start the rolling start at the same speed for both cars? if not that wouldnt be fair right? please reply guys thx
@FRC0711
@FRC0711 11 жыл бұрын
From inside the car, he always looks like he's about to crash, but from the outside, he looks like a master!
@jlo6388
@jlo6388 11 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Tiff did this vid
@SWatchik
@SWatchik 11 жыл бұрын
was the porsche fitted with the carbon ceramic brakes though that cost several thousand pounds?
@Hazardiousmatze
@Hazardiousmatze 11 жыл бұрын
Didnt know Tiff is on evo now.. Good choice!
@mprziv
@mprziv 10 жыл бұрын
"Boxster engine"? I'm guessing he means boxer engine. That bothered me.
@worldtravel101
@worldtravel101 10 жыл бұрын
you aren't alone lol
@rafaeldomenikos5978
@rafaeldomenikos5978 10 жыл бұрын
actually he meant as he said boxster engine. The base 911 carrera has a 3.4l boxer 6 which actually is a tuned up version of the engine in the boxster-cayman.
@FOM58
@FOM58 10 жыл бұрын
Glad I wasn't the only one noticing that ahah
@demon23ro
@demon23ro 11 жыл бұрын
Tiff is amazing.. as always !!!
@staggabob
@staggabob 11 жыл бұрын
Where can I get some of these quality superseeds you speak of?
@olegdavidov555
@olegdavidov555 11 жыл бұрын
still love the jag but tiff what are you doing here? and what about fifth gear?
@colnano
@colnano 11 жыл бұрын
This guy always makes smile while watching the video. He is pretty cool.
@its_generik
@its_generik 11 жыл бұрын
I love how he looks at the camera and makes a face like Jason and says "fighter" haha Tiff is truly a mad driver!!! Seeting him throw that porsche around at those speeds what a driver what a good journalist what a funny guy. would be fun to have a lunch with.
@hisham202
@hisham202 11 жыл бұрын
everyone is talking about the steering feeling. Just to set the measurement right, is the old, non-assisted steering is the best in this respect?
@seinsmeld13
@seinsmeld13 11 жыл бұрын
Tiff you are the best. Cheers from Canada.
@Mike981S
@Mike981S 11 жыл бұрын
At 0:28 you can see the standard black calipers of the base 911. So no carbon ceramic brakes in this test.
@stevielowe2853
@stevielowe2853 10 жыл бұрын
Jaguar all the way every time
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 11 жыл бұрын
tell me one proper racing series where the production GT3 RS is used..
@Starky513
@Starky513 11 жыл бұрын
I don't mind seeing the Jag be slower, as long as it's equally as fun. Awesome video!
@OOOWilliam
@OOOWilliam 10 жыл бұрын
can they do this again with a f-type v8 s?
@mkz24
@mkz24 11 жыл бұрын
is he working with both Evo and Fifth Gear now ?
@i7rs
@i7rs 11 жыл бұрын
Is it TopGear test track?
@TomHoldsworth667
@TomHoldsworth667 11 жыл бұрын
There are certain facts of life and one of those is that nothing is ever QUITE as good as a 911. Great video too! Tiff has still got it!
@DiterDV
@DiterDV 11 жыл бұрын
nice video but why use a cabrio on a track? Are these cars not more of gt's?
@Chris-cv6wy
@Chris-cv6wy 2 жыл бұрын
Porsche had a significant power to weight advantage. Would have been interesting to see the V8 or spend 1k on the V6 (shortened pulley and remap to 450bhp). I know there's always the argument you can modify the 911, but they're hard to extract power from without spending a hell of a lot as they're N/A
@LordRockWell
@LordRockWell 11 жыл бұрын
Not sure where you found this Tiff fellow (work experience maybe?), but he's shaping up to be a pretty good addition to the evo team!
@macca4610
@macca4610 11 жыл бұрын
hit the nail on the head there man
@TheMBCreative
@TheMBCreative 11 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris and Tiff are the most honest, petrol head reviewers out there...a dying breed.
@flat6croc
@flat6croc 11 жыл бұрын
Did you see any exterior footage of either car where it wasn't bloody drifting? Happy to be corrected, but all the exterior footage I saw was drifiting. Would be nice to see how the cars sit and move when being driven properly.
@streetmoney21
@streetmoney21 11 жыл бұрын
Tiff is the man and I think the Zonda R was the best review he ever gave on a car as it brought the best out of him. I would love to see him drive an Agera R.
@alexwong7
@alexwong7 11 жыл бұрын
but which is the better road car?
@mx19idlewilder
@mx19idlewilder 11 жыл бұрын
Good point bro!
@ExGavalonnj
@ExGavalonnj 11 жыл бұрын
the little f type is 400lbs heavier than the 911?
@JToroPaz
@JToroPaz 11 жыл бұрын
He was in F1 briefly. He was in a lot of different series, Formula Ford, Formula 3, British F1, F1, British Rallycross, Le Mans 24h, BTCC.
@Tednessful
@Tednessful 11 жыл бұрын
I just noticed Tiff is wearing an old Sebago shirt, I have the same one.
@sspope
@sspope 11 жыл бұрын
Maybe the rear-engine layout is more space efficient? Just a guess.
@statdlober
@statdlober 11 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great car! i'd wait for the 2014 428i though.
@lejink
@lejink 11 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Tiff's videos, I'm curious though is his name 'Tiff' short for something?
@HarryWilsonWils95
@HarryWilsonWils95 11 жыл бұрын
When you thought Evo video reviews couldn't get any better they oinly go and get Tiff Needell back !!!!
@jshanyao0214
@jshanyao0214 11 жыл бұрын
should F-type Vs boxster?
@TheArfdog
@TheArfdog 10 жыл бұрын
Porsche just really, really has their game together. They are perhaps the very best engineered chassis this side of an F1 car.
@ondrejbabik3000
@ondrejbabik3000 11 жыл бұрын
Tiff looks a little bit older now, however he still has that energy in himself :)
@brasconator
@brasconator 11 жыл бұрын
thumbs up to have Jay Leno review the new F-Type
@Canadian1st
@Canadian1st 11 жыл бұрын
They may not have had the option to test the V8S though I think that puts the price above a base 911 (i dont know prices for each). From what I've read, Jag intends to try and pull clientele from those who would be considering either a Boxster or a 911. The engines for the F-Type are what decide those price ranges and comparisons. I dont see it working as they see it, but they also dont want to release two sport roadsters and have both flop.
@SupercarsGT
@SupercarsGT 11 жыл бұрын
What a drive Tiff jeje,i love the POrsche but the F-Type have a some special
@gav25x
@gav25x 11 жыл бұрын
Do a test against the top of the range F type and see how the 911 gets on
@frostyblumkin
@frostyblumkin 11 жыл бұрын
I think everyone should own a 911 in their life. Its just an engineering master piece that puts a smile on your face every time you drive it.
@dcr33313
@dcr33313 11 жыл бұрын
I think they were going more by the power and closer gross weights, but fair point.
@obedarias530
@obedarias530 11 жыл бұрын
More Tiff!!!
@kahlesssmith9681
@kahlesssmith9681 10 жыл бұрын
Really if they were comparing an ftype against a 911 it shouldve been the v8s so the prices were similar. as it is there is a 15k base price difference, or about 19% which isnt insignificant. the v8s and 911 cabrio are only 4k apart.
@cachattacks2045
@cachattacks2045 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting...I appreciate the honest comparison by Tiff between the legendary Porsche 911 and the new Jaguar F-type. Although the latter has the looks, the Porsche has superior performance and handling!!
@XR4turbo
@XR4turbo 11 жыл бұрын
Yep, which is why Tiff's drifts always look so insane....because he's driving like a mad man.
@scarlebloke
@scarlebloke 11 жыл бұрын
How many buyers of the F Type will be taking their cars at full tilt around a track on a regular basis? How many will be taking their F Types on a pose down the Kings Rd. or nice runs out into the countryside?
@buxtonrichard8180
@buxtonrichard8180 11 жыл бұрын
The Price of the F-type S Is around 67 k the Porsche Carrera 3.4 71k if you increase the comparable budget in line with the Carrera S ( 83.5 k and 395 BHP ) you arrive in the territory of the F -type V8 S 80 k with 485 BHP. So Your point is?
@SamSpeed90
@SamSpeed90 11 жыл бұрын
thumbs up for the E-Type successor !
@studiolezard
@studiolezard 11 жыл бұрын
Where's the roll bar in the exterior shots. We only see it from inside the cabin. Nice continuity guys!
@chrizmeister1992
@chrizmeister1992 11 жыл бұрын
my gues is engine, type of metal used. added weight by convertible? could be a lot:D
@maxxxxxxim
@maxxxxxxim 11 жыл бұрын
Good video
@AutoAndrew
@AutoAndrew 11 жыл бұрын
I'd take both they're gorgeous!
@spyderarm
@spyderarm 11 жыл бұрын
now that would be fun.
@stuharp3435
@stuharp3435 11 жыл бұрын
More tiff please
@campari121
@campari121 11 жыл бұрын
boxter s vs 911 carrera cabriolet would be interessing
@jamdc2000
@jamdc2000 11 жыл бұрын
Tif Needell vs Chris Harris on a 2 or 3 lap battle, that would be an event I'd pay to see
@azlan17sc
@azlan17sc 11 жыл бұрын
what Tiff doing in EVO!!
@Beolex
@Beolex 11 жыл бұрын
I agree with Tiff... that 911 had a beautiful manual gearbox and of course the steering wheel without any buttons - that's how I like my cars.
@avip9
@avip9 11 жыл бұрын
OMG ITS TIFF!!!
@agent807
@agent807 11 жыл бұрын
I'm not really a 911 fan, but I like the looks of the 991, and this evolution Porsche has taken to the design, and the driving characteristics. I respect the progress, and driving dynamics. As for the GT-R vs 911 debate; architects and engineers have been making precise calculations (911) long before calculators arrived (GT-R). BTW: 1:33 LF wheel catching air, slight rallying in a 911. YES!!!
@armani795
@armani795 11 жыл бұрын
Was he on top gear
@maxmavrick7
@maxmavrick7 11 жыл бұрын
Most awaited car battle of 2013
@anzeSi87
@anzeSi87 11 жыл бұрын
Tiff Needell is legend!!
@cardude1992
@cardude1992 11 жыл бұрын
Great car. But the F-type looks alot softer in the corners than the 911. And is there going to be a coupe version of the F-type? i sure hope so
@LamboSpyder99
@LamboSpyder99 11 жыл бұрын
that calls for another video!
@HesteBremse
@HesteBremse 11 жыл бұрын
Good Test. The new Jag looks and sounds very good - Don´t like the open 911 much for looks, Boxter or Caymen look better and more fresh as open tops. Don´t get me wrong i quite like the new 911/991 with a roof on - one of the best looking Porsches for a long time. In this battle 3 Seconds is quite a difference though. I would like to see a test if either car can loose the other. One will properly be quite happy on any given summer day driving one of these - Think I would take the F for that.
@TheNewSchoolGamer
@TheNewSchoolGamer 11 жыл бұрын
I wish we could see a race between Tiff, Chris Harris and Randy Pobst
@nswgb69
@nswgb69 11 жыл бұрын
Well done Tiff.
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