He straight up raped Demeter and killed his first wife, who was also his cousin, after a prophecy

"And literally how half the pantheon is your kids with other gods and humans." He even slept with the same family tree a few times to make hercules.

"Pharoh is a god-king, and he gets to marry his sister, so why can't I?"

Literally Zeus just seems like an oversexual, all powerful, creepy self-insert

And, to be fair, it's not like the dating pool among ancient greek gods is that big. If a god wants to marry another god or even an important/heroic mortal, they will probably be related to them in one way or another.

That’s probably because Hades was seen as one of the more moral gods back in that day, while Persephone had quite a few myths about her terrible anger, like when she turned one of Hades’ almost-mistresses into a mint plant so that she could never return to her river

Persephone means "Bringer of Death" and she had another name, Kore, meaning something along the lines of "innocent maiden," when she was with her [helicopter] mom

This is from the time when Greek mythology was matriarchal

kore was her original name "maiden" and Persephone is "bringer of death"

in terms of how long they were worshiped she's actually been around longer than him, she's the scary bringer of death while he vibes in the underworld doing a lot of boring paperwork

I THINK it has a lot to do with a) Christianity and how their ruler of the underworld is simultaneously the most evil thing that has ever been and b) ... Disneys Hercules.

overhated? never heard of that. r u looking for "underrated"?

It's not Hate, it's Fear. Hades ruled the Underworld. A cold and gloomy place. The people called him the Lord of Wealth, for all gems of the earth are His. They speak of Hades, if at all, in reference to his wealth as to speak of Him could draw attention. His and Thanatos were the Last names the common folk would willingly speak. Such is humanity's Fear of death, an easily exploitable fear for Christian missionaries. There were and are priests of each God of Greece yet still. And as before, secretive.

@Dayton Green Studios didn't know that, lol. thanks!

well the fact that she was probably a underworld god before Hades even maybe exsisted means she'd have been fairly happy down there

true, a man who has a world named after himself that is full of the souls of damned is a better husband than some lightning wielding sky father who banged half or more of greek's female population

Lol

Hades is a good guy tbh, with the exception of the time he kidnapped Persephone, but to be fair, Hades did not know how to do it and asked Zeus, whose advice was to kidnap her.

Oh hey he talked about that.

True

Though eating food from the realm of the dead making you have to stay there is a pretty common theme is several underworld myths around the world

What parts are unclear?

Yeah, It seems weird, caused Everytime I hear the story it differ and differ at that part

@@clarehidalgo I might be wrong, but isnt the theme of “eating food from another realm forcing you to stay in said realm” common BECAUSE of the common *interpretation* of this greek myth?

ALunarLight : i dont think so. Hades and Zeus make a deal so she stays there. She didn’t go back willingly. She ate the seeds and was exposed by Ascalaphus for eating them (which prompted Demeter to turn him into an animal) and so the deal was reached as a result. Persephone was explicitly said to be unhappy, when Hermes comes to rescue her she calls him ‘luck bearing Hermes’ bcs she knew she was finally going home.

“Hey I like to rule dead people but nobody likes me.” “Aww! That’s a cute hobby!” “You’re my wife from now on.”

So Hades is like me, or rather I'm like Hades.😅

Nice

Pelopse his son’s name is Pelopse

And then when Clotho put him back together, since that piece was missing, she used a piece of ivory. So all the descendants had a white spot on their shoulder.

Tantalus was born way after this story. His great grandchild is Agamenon who lived in the time of the Trojan War so Tantalus is not that ancient. The only way to make sense is to say that Demeter was sad because Persephone was not with her so it was Winter or Autumm, but not during the time of the kidnapping.

@@sonofcronos7831 yeah, so, um this is actually a myth. do your research

Only modern “romanticized” retellings show Persephone being happy about her circumstances, though. There is only one source from antiquity that tells the story of how she became Hades’ wife, and it is very clear she is not happy about it.

@@russergee49 Fair point, but I also like how even in the old versions, it shows more that it was zeus's fault for allowing this marriage and basically giving her away with Persephone and demeter not having any choice. Though that may just be standard for the time, so who knows.

“Only **I** kidnap Persephone!!!”

“Only **I** kidnap Persephone!!!”

@@BlueflameKing1 In Ancient Greece, marriage was a matter ultimately decided by the bride's father. I imagine any good father would make an effort to match their daughter with someone they like, but in the end it's up to them, and the daughter and mother don't get a say. In The Hymn to Demeter (which you can read for yourself at theoi.com) it is made very clear that Persephone was at no point happy about the arrangement. The story probably reflects a very tragic reality that was common for women in that culture, and for their mothers who were helpless to protect them. That being said, Zeus is the Ancient Greeks' image of an ideal father figure. So I imagine in their minds, the decisions he makes for his children are ultimately going to be the right ones. And it's worth noting that from what we know of the tradition surrounding Persephone, it seems like she ended up embracing her role as Scary Death Queen™

The original history completely absolves hades of any fault, mostly because more than a kidnap it was an arranged marriage, something that wasnt bad at the time, so all the blame is on zeus

he was

I’m pretty sure that originally Hades was like “Zeus man I’m struggling there’s this pretty girl I like but I don’t know how to marry her so what should I do?” And Zeus is like “Just kidnap her, it’s not that bad.”

@@mo0nlight_vidsandmore441 Well here's the thing. The vase pictograph for marriage and kidnapping are the same. Plus Zeus is her father. So this is an arranged marriage.

That doesn't make Hades innocent though

Nocap

Indeed

yes

Did Poseidon marry? And if so how bad was he?

Well that’s something that anyone can achieve when your competing with Zeus and Poseidon xd

If what Miscellaneous Myths says about her is true, han she was worship as a death god before Hades was, so maybe that's why.

Tormented by Furries

@@akanesaotome5924 she really is the definition of "nice until pushed over the edge"

people talk about incest and stuffs, and while it is morally wrong to most modern human society, the people in question here are the gods; and i doubt there's any drawback(like biological one for example) for the gods to commit incest with one another. and yeah standard is really weird overall from ancient time to now, the Greek or Roman or somewhere around those country accept homosexuality before accepting women is as equal as men(before Christianity spread that is).

You have to remember that the ancient greeks projected human characteristics on the gods (Homer mentions this.) so actions taken by the gods (like Zeus agreeing to Hades’s proposal) were morally (and in this case legally) right. If you read on ancient greek wedding and proposal traditions it’ll make more sense. Personally i find that for this reason, you should learn ancient greek culture and history with greek mythology. It opens a huge lens to make a perspective out of.

We don't actually know the full terms for why Persephone returns to the underworld regularly, the single surviving source for it is damaged in that part, There's also evidence that Persephone predates Hades(the God not sure about the place)existence, and that she's always had a connection to the afterlife, but oddly her only connection to plants is being the daughter of the goddess of spring and one of her titles being "Persphone the Harvester"(or something similar been awhile since I read that bit so memory might be faulty)

Is it just the seeds or would any food from Hades do the same thing?

@@KlaxontheImpailr any food from the underworld!

but y? some food clause or something?

Yeah, the pomegranate was the only thing that grew in the underworld, and Hades showed it to Persephone when he noticed how unhappy she was becoming being separated from the plants she loved to be around.

Actually, I believe we have no way of knowing that. As the only paper(or wherever it was written in) that was written in was destroyed in the part where we think it said why the pomegranate seeds work like that. Overly sarcastic productions has a video on it, it pretty good, you should totally check it out :))

Yeah she’s really cute :)

I like Red's designs a lot more but these are nice.

Also worth noting that Demeter's crush was one of Zeus's demi-god spawn...yup. He killed his own son in that tantrum...

@@Amy_the_Lizard woah so demeter was attracted to her nephew jesus christ i dont know who is the good one in this

@@atarsinghmeena4216 Considering that Demeter is Zeus's full sister and he still assaulted her, I'd say Demeter's crush on her nephew is still a lot more reasonable since she didn't murder or assault anyone because of it. Especially considering most of the Greek gods married or had kids with their siblings, nieces, nephews, or cousins, so it wouldn't have been seen as disturbing within her social circle

@@Amy_the_Lizard ya that true but all of them are weirdos

​@@atarsinghmeena4216basically every god in Greek mythology is biologically related and a lot of them are in relationships so I personally wouldn't set the bar there

I mean Hera wasn't paranoid at all. She thought her husband cheated on her with everything with less than 6 legs, and she was right about that.

@@CM-ss5pe He cheated with ones with 4 legs!!!???🤐

@@KLPatel-it7lr I think he was attracted to a cow at some point

@@KLPatel-it7lr .... yeah. They could all shapeshift and turn into different animals and stuff. There's even some weird stories where he turns into an animal and then cheats on Hera... with a person? Like Helen of Troy was conceived by a mortal woman who got raped by Zeus while Zeus was in the form of a swan. Then the human woman laid an egg, I guess because Zeus was a bird? And then a human comes out of the egg and becomes the most beautiful woman alive?

​@@CM-ss5pe It's pretty much the worst thing he could have done to the goddess of faithfulness in marriage. Trick her into marrying him when she didn't want to, then cheat on her with literally everyone.

I remember being so pissed as a little kid watching the Disney version in theater.🤣

I mean...there are so many different versions of the myths that accuracy doesn't...really exist. It's just however people want to tell it, no wrong answers. So this dude's video is correct, and Disney's version is correct, and hadestown is correct. Because they're myths and that's not the point

​@@BuckerydogSchmuckeryDogI know, but canonicity. The Disney Hercules really pissed out the entire country of Greece as much as Fyromacedonia

Rhea: Same here.

why what happened

To be fair it wasn't that important she helped demeter search for a while then demeter went to Helios and she doesn't do anything else

@@omarsalem1219 as far as i know Hecate goes to the underworld with Demeter to search for Persephone there since Hecate has powers in the underworld.

They're her favorite plants Don't tell the other ones though

Thank you, I salute you for your sacrafice

You're not only,but yeah thanks

Cool. I picked that one

That interpretation is not based on any Ancient Greek sources. I just posted another video where I talk about this very subject, among other stuff, if you wanna check that out.

@@JakeDoubleyoo i saw a version where Hades doesn't feed Persephone the pomegranate seeds, instead when she goes back up to Olympus, she lies about eating the pomegranate seeds, and when she does return she eats the pomegranate seeds.

@@SeBa-xb3jn that’s inaccurate, and likely based on a modern retelling. In no original story does she actively choose to be with Hades. She was kidnapped

@@trainercoty2757 I think it was a modern retelling

That's a modern retelling 💀 y'all wanted him to be a fully good guy fr when he had major flaws just like his brothers

dude... have you ever seen greek gods? cause like... most of them are related.... So if you think we should talk about that, then we can start at the begining, when Gaia married her child and go from there.

It's get's a lot worst when you know that Zeus turn into Hades (or snake according to version) and trick Persephone to have a baby with him.

You literally need a FBI and CIA modern equipment to find greek god couple that isn't incest as all hell. With Zeus marrying his actual sister, who came from same mother and father, through actual sex and birth and not "willed into existance" at same time. And then there is ridiculous amount of sexual assaults in the myths. Zeus, Poseidon, Apollo, Heracles, Dionysus, heck even Hermes. All of them commiting explicit acts of sexual assault. Many mythologies are crazy, but greek ones take the nasty cake

Bro, Heracles is both grandson and half brother of Perseus, and after becoming a God and marring Hebe, Zeus become His father in law besides being his biological father.

Zeus literally married his own full blooded sister, and then later cheated on her with his other sister to create Persephone.

on YT* typo D:

He isnt greek satan

@@yalcninal1168 r/wooosh

honestly persephone is closer to satan in the original mythos than hades

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​@@BrownSugarBobaIsBetter Hollywood sign

There's not much to say unfortunately, they're just kinda there and/or spawning monsters every which way but there's very few to no stories about them directly

Persephone Actually not that badass She is the goddes of Springtime

@@asphaltman1819 she is a bad ass, she is goddess of spring and bringer of death

@@sarahweekes4829 idk if you are joking or not but if you are not then read Greek mythology please Just read percu Jackson and the Greek gods it's explained in there

@@asphaltman1819 i do read greek mythology, she is literally more feared than hades. look it up. she is also known as dread queen. she is both. and i dont even like percy jackson i read the first book in middle school

@@asphaltman1819 I don't think she's thw goddess of spring, she's the goddess of the Underworld through marriage it's her mother who brings spring when she returns

Well, B was the real punishment for him

same

Minthe and leuce

@@omarsalem1219 Compared to other greek gods, that's pretty short list. Not to mention they both have plants naned after them so ...

🔫 you know too much.