All that hate but hes still going to heaven 🤔🤔🤔

@Orsen Carte Don't be so logical. The above panel is all about making the right noises so they will get more support from Guiness i suspect. i believe the law at so many levels will support Folau.

why are so many people being Christphobic and Anti-Christ? why are they HATEFUL towards the Christians, Christianity and Christian worldview?

@@studmalexy its the most persecuted religion on the planet according to the latest UN figures. So the western virtue signalers are only happy to join in.

So you media whores are anti Christian , Folau was quoting the Bible .

Just had to check. Thought for a moment that was a euphemism.

No doubt after that gay rugby match he recently refereed he gave some kid something in the background after the game🥒💩

@@petermethven Thanks!

Yes it is! Pleased someone spotted it

@@JOE_co_uk Why are you censoring honest peoples comments ?. Are you anti christian because you are attacking the scriptures of the Bible and a mans freedom to express his faith .You only gave part of what Folau said which is extremely suspicious . You are behaving like subversive change agents . I hope Folau sues the Australian union because his contract is obviously unconscionable .

No , he pauses because he has put his footinit to many times before lol .

John Smith You missed the point... he DOESN’T pause

@@Makethemostofit1 30-40K? His parents should ask for a refund.

Articulate 😂 why, because he has a posh accent? Please.

@@april-tui3524 Are you jealous? Lol

Rohan Cook presumably you stand by his other video where he admitted to using homophobic language himself? Makes him a hypocrite in my book and an even bigger idiot to admit it on his youtube channel

Do you think Folau is a hypocrite too?

MagicSince 98 yes but i think he has been treated unfairly

@@jaypw321 If it was a one off I'd agree but he has previous and James got it right Folau is nothing but a bigot....

@@jaypw321 Your book needs rewriting then because you are coming across as a bigot aswell because i you can't condemn Isreal for what he did TWICE it says a lot about you there is also a difference between admitting to using homophobic language as derogatory banter (Still not ok) and telling people they are going to hell because of the way they were born.....

Joke first made about me in roughly 1995! :)

@@RugbyMedia were you a 10 year old Communards fan, with receding hairline, a butler, and a propensity for saying "allegedly" to avoid being sued?

Rugby Media I don’t share your views, although I did stop watching after Haskell said he speaks out when something happens in ‘his area’, because I know that to be untrue. Why are no men in rugby speaking out about violent players who continue to play soon after incidents of domestic violence? I think that’s far more damaging to society, particularly women, than words about imaginary places. It’s also damaging to hear the excuses coaches and others give, such as Razor Robertson saying Sevu Reece was a ‘great human’ who had behavioural not character issues. That’s the standard response to violence or rape, he’s a good guy who ‘made a mistake’. I heard that all my life and as a consequence legitimised a dangerous father with a violent past, as a result my stepmother is dead. Why do I never hear men like you lot talking about stuff like that? Because 15 women died of DV in NZ last year and every week in the UK 2 women are murdered by their partners. I find it troubling a group of men will sit down and easily talk about issues affecting certain groups, but never do I see a decent honest conversation about rugby players who abuse or beat women. It feels disingenuous to paint yourselves as men who care when things of importance happen, yet only when it affects certain groups and never, ever, when it affects women. Rugby has impacted women very badly. You are hypocrites who are reacting only when you know mainstream views align with yours.

@@april-tui3524 I'm not saying what you're bring up isn't important, but I imagine they didn't talk about it because it wasn't the topic of the conversation. The Folau incident was.

somanytakennames but they never have talked about it. That’s what my actual point is. Why talk about Israel Folau but not Sevu Reece? Who is playing his first super rugby months after getting away with beating a woman on the street! Some words that are meaningless are more important than actual physical violence. It is hypocritical BS.

@@april-tui3524 Why is it hypocritical BS? Why would these UK based guys know about Sevu Reece? He's in his first year of Super Rugby and until this point has only played in the Mitre 10. Israel Folau is an established, widely recognised international player who until now, was held in high regard. Of course news stories about him are going to reach people in the UK before stories about player who's only known in NZ. Just because they haven't talked about it doesn't mean they won't talk ever talk about it either. I'm sorry to say this because I think it is an important subject but I think you're just shifting the goal posts and trying to paint these guys in a bad light simply because you disagree with them. I don't see why these guys are getting a hard time for it when it's the Crusaders who have ignored his crimes.

somanytakennames Reece was signed for Connacht! Then dropped because of the case. Of course they heard about it. Besides, he isn’t the only one and NZ isn’t the only country with a problem of violent players, right? It’s a big issue, it’s just even bigger in NZ because of the level of tolerance. I’ve literally never heard or seen a rugby show like this *ever* talk about it.

As a christian I believe we are called to Love one another above anything else. There is an argument where warning non believers they are going to go to hell is loving but in my personal opinion doing it like Israel did is far too harsh and doesn't help anyone. Having said this I can't argue with what he is saying, in my opinion it is fact. But the public don't understand the full story. That everyone falls short of the glory of God, we are all sinners, and every sin is equal so in Gods eyes someone who has murdered 100 people is the same as the dude who lied to his mum about eating the last cookie. But that is where Jesus comes in, Jesus died for us and was resurrected after 3 days ( Easter is nice and timely) so that 'whoever believes in him shall have eternal life with God' John 3:16. This inadvertently means that if you don't believe in Jesus then you won't have eternal life with God. You will go to "hell" which is described in different parts of the bible. The fact the public enjoy focusing on Israel hates gays is interesting as he has stated he hates no one is an interesting one. But as a christian I hate sin. Jesus calls us to live like him (sinless) and so that means hating sin. Obviously i fail every day but God forgives me every day as i repent of those sins. So I think that sex is for a man and a woman, i don't hate gay people i hate what they are doing as God says it is a sin. At the end of the day humans have been given free will by God and so can do as they please. I am not going to stop you but i am not going to say its right. I think people need to understand that it is healthy to face opposition because it makes you question whether what you are doing is actually the right thing. I have faced much opposition to my faith and some of my friends have left it behind but for me it grew me closer to God. Sorry for the essay. Hope it helps, God bless you all. I am happy to answer any questions.

@@joshgoodman6534 what is a sin though? Who gets to decide? If you believe that homosexuality is a sin because it says so in biblical texts, then you also have to believe that eating shell fish, or pork are sinful, that working on a Sunday is sinful, and God only knows how many other things. The bottom line is that the Bible is a terrible source of moral guidance. Any text that advocates death and eternal damnation for gay people, but has no problem with slavery is suspect.

Christian is playing American football now, but I agree it would be nice to have his views..

@@davidjones272 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned. Romans 5:12. Living is a sin, it is impossible not to sin. The fact that Adam first sinned mean't that sin is in the world and you can't escape it. you focus on homosexuality, maybe because you want to find a flaw or maybe a reason to not believe. But does it not make sense that everyone sins no matter what. FYI i know you guys love your leviticus quotes. Jesus came and died for all and rose again to abolish the law set in the old testament. So that whoever believes in him will have eternal life not because of their acts but because of Jesus's. It is hard to explain over text. But there is nothing that you do on this earth good or bad that gets you any closer or further from God. The 1 thing is believing in Jesus. You could have killed 400 innocent children and then on your death bed in the prison you give your life to Christ and you are saved. Does that make sense?

As a non believer. You should let God decide who burns in hell and keep your opinions about who goes to hell to yourself. To do anything else is a staggering presumption about the rightness of your own belief.

DraigUK yes true. So why do you think men like Haskell say nothing when rugby men abuse or beat women? Like, where is the video on Sevu Reece, or Paddy Jackson? Or Rory Best defending Paddy Jackson? Or do you think they believe words about imaginary places are more damaging than actual violence against women?

@@april-tui3524 Feminazi.

@@april-tui3524 April I agree with you but we are in an anti Christian society now and any chance to attack it is always taken. The main issue is that a Christian said something and it must be attacked.

Interesting strategy, quoting the father of conservatism who would most likely side with religious folks.

@@april-tui3524 Paddy Jackson had a court case and was found not guilty and still was fired from his employment so not quite sure what he's supposed to call out there? No one says that domestic violence is right so there's no need to call out anything there. However a lot of people seem to think homophobia is right so there is stuff to call out there

No he didnt.

Didn't say what I think actually

I apologise, I cant speak for others i guess he articulated what I thought at least and a few others.

Nah the majority really just a few upset Christians who are throwing toys outta the pram

Jim I highly doubt it he seems like a genuine guy

It's not like he's taking any risks in what he's saying - he's giving the position where British society is. I don't think there's anything particularly brave in this - he's not going to suffer for his views. If anything, it will make media orgs more interested in hiring him.

The Hask is a dick

@@Fredders88 I suspect it is not where we are but it is certainly the view of the media of which Hask is a part.

Agreed.

Yes apart from the law maybe on I Folau side but that won't matter much.

Simon Gilliat Is that his Arabic brother?

I'm glad then that homophobia is less and less aceptable.

Way too much common sense for our current world. Agree 100%

You want a Homophobic person on the show. Do one kid

@@oc911 Haskell is a great human too helping his mate film a girl having sex without consent......I mean keep the same energy...

And me who thought he'd be the voice of reason?

another dope with a keyboard, he is absolutely entitled to free speech and he is also entitled to expect people to respect his rights, and you are entitled to babble like an idiot and i'm entitled to express my opinion about your babbling, in my opinion morons should sit in the corner and say nothing but to my dismay you keep talking,but that is your right, so i respect it, but apparently being a hypocrite goes with the territory in your pathetic little world

job lot always available to engage in honest dialogue. Where’s the hypocrisy?

@@MichaeldeSousaCruz freedom is not gauged by your pathetic little feelings, it has a grand stage that is not up for debate,men fight and die for it, in my world you either give it to me or i will take it from you, folau has the right and i will die to keep it for him, as my fore fathers did, feelings are not law they are not the gauge, the measurement of your freedom is yourright to speak openly and freely, and these hypocrites like castle and cheika and genia should be denounced, so start denouncing those that seek to silence or be my enemy

"Hell doesn't"??? Just wait until you're gone from this earth and then you'll see if it exists or not😃😉

@@user-tl2cs6wv8b of course it doesn't exist. The bible is just a group of fictitious stories created to support an archaic ideology, it is not a factual book on history.

Don't recall using foul and abusive language as good behaviour the man is a smug arrogant hypocrite.

@@mick6370 Cause he doesn't agree with you yeah?

Freedom of speech means you can say what you want, it doesn't mean that you're immune to the consequences of what you say.

that's interesting, didn't know that... popularized by Churchill i guess, so when did burke say it?

@@DAGATHire sometime in the 1700's. Google it for exact date.

@@shamr0ck Fair enough, do you know what he was referring to? English rule i presume? but i find it interesting, so any extra info is appreciated.

But it is his religious beliefs and it is still homophobic.

in your not valid opinion,free speech is a right,and feelings are a choice, you say bigoted,was jesus christ a bigot, was he harmful, for your not so enriched mind i'm sure he was, but to 2 billion people he was the word of god, and his word was the truth,however i guess in your little space you know more then jesus, you know more then god, or maybe you are an atheist whom has no moral fortitude, who thinks he has the right to curtail free speech, in that case i say suck it up rainbow boy

@@joblot8463 Enriched mind??? God you're so educated in fake stories are ya?

your just a little sensitive, toughen up cupcake,

@@owyn4799 freedom to speak is your right my right and everybody else's too, just because you don't like it, does not mean you get to censor them, you can choose to ignore, but you do not get to punish them, my fore fathers fought bloody wars for this countries people to have the right of freedom of speech

@@joblot8463 Just to be clear the church has rightly been separated from state because the church is full of made up fairy stories which causes quite a bit of damage. So as regards who has to suck it up, I think that will be you cupcake. Also it's not your it's you're and sentences end with full stops not commas and sentences begin with capital letters. You poor sweet fellow.

why?

@@MiniMatthew Because he is a bit of a bellend but a thoroughly decent human being.

P R O D U C T I O N Q U A L I T Y

Because... the director wants it to. Simple

Its called inclusion....ha

The wouldn't have had a chance with him......did nothing in the previous World Cup.

will smithola while saying nothing about players like Sevu Reece.

Christianity no longer rules countries. It's power is on the wane. There is another religion however that puts gays to death. It's the elephant in the room in the west. Call it out and you're the bigot...

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. In other words, chat shit get banged. If Folau wants to pick a fight against the world, he shouldn't be afforded special protection when it hits him back.

Gay people don't accuse Christians of being sinners, who will literally suffer for all eternity for their romantic preferences.

what a goof.

@@davidjones272 Well if God is true then Folau is making a statement of fact so he correct to warn them. If there is no Christian God then do as you please as it does not matter what you do. Go smash a car up as it is neither right or wrong, just a matter of opinion .

You are wrong to criticise them as the panel has a christian on it to bring some balance....

dulls that’s the point, a Christian rugby player would not come on the panel and express their beliefs, because they would have to apologise the next day or else have their contract torn up.

@@johnarmstrong6940 yet any other view is fine, sad days for the country indeed.

such words of wisdom here. thank you.

These media whore's will say anything that will advance their so called media careers . They are allowing themselves to be used as subversive change agents . I have been suspicious of rugby's involvement in social change for some time now and there involvement in shell companies . The subversive elites have obviously targeted rugby because of it's manly status . The introduction of woman refs and linesmen and physios and commentators who know next to nothing about rugby and pink shirts are indicative of this infiltration of the sport . Haskell the narcissistic carthorse is full of crap , he makes me want to puke . I have noticed that this channel have removed honest peoples comments on this subject .

Imagine getting upset at people being gay. How pathetic.

@waydreed Wow, thank the Lord (whomever he/she may be!) a voice of plain old _common sense amongst the Folau hypocrites and all-round hypocrisy!_ Israel Folau quoted a well-known passage *_from his Bible, a book apparently, he try's to live his life by!_* Me, (and I'm sure many others!) don't believe in any religious sophistry regardless of how it's disguised, I do however believe in the enshrined right of free speech! The main fact is................... in no way, shape or form, did Israel Folau use a phrase or argument in an attempt to endanger the varying gay and homosexual individuals found in the world! He merely, *_based on his own (religious) convictions,_* point-out a passage of the Bible among which the laws of Jehova, highlighted those destined to end-up in hell! (If anyone can give me directions to said place, please give me some coordinates please!) He did not, solely or otherwise, cherry pick a single transgressor, or class of trangressors of God's laws, in so doing! As an ordinary feller, I'm guilty of at least one, maybe *THREE or more,* of the subjects Issy mentioned, namely; *_Adulterer, Drunk, Liar, Atheist, and Fornicator (of local repute!)_* Until the hordes of Fornicators, drunken liars and atheist adulterers shout FOUL!! And come forward in protest, then frankly, quoting Gods law is nothing more than using the (God) given right of free speech! *_Poofs, gays and scoundrel-apologetics, keep your hypocritical protests to yourselves!_*

Following your reasoning to its conclusion though, no one can have an opinion on anything. Look Folau messed up by breaking his contract by publicly sharing an opinion not held by the ARU and unless he’s about to get all his tattoos lasered off he is also break with scripture himself. Just accept he made an error and people have the right to comment on that, whatever his beliefs.

@@glodglodson7710 Theres nothing in his contract about this which is exactly why he knew he could say it and he is now going to sue the pants of the ARU for wronful dismissal Just watch and mark my words thats whats going to happen! Folau did nothing wrong. Whats wrong is you marxist pos attacking him for his beliefs!

@@stirlingstreetmachines4434 Personally, I'm fed-up with homosexuals demanding NOT 'equality' but, 'superiority!' They now have the 'moral' high ground due to wankers refusing to call a spade a shovel! Look at the debacle surrounding 'Trans' people!! Not so long ago, they were rightly called deviants, now, their in celebration 'cos their perverted action and speech, somehow allows them to jump on a soapbox and scream "Nazi's, Fascists, *_Extreme-Right_* etc. etc" at normal. decent people, in the full knowledge, that what the law used to be able to do, *_was to lock them away from normal people, now the cops actively assist the perverts in perverting!_* Crazy!! Thing is though, all Izzy actually did, was to quote a passage from the Bible! He did NOT single out any single deviant, he simply put all the bad apples in one barrel! Imagine had he quoted from the Koran? Oh dear me, there would have been a war in the streets right now over that! Nowhere in the Bible, does the words of God, indicate that 'transgressors of those laws should be horribly maimed, then killed!' I do though, know a certain book, where just that kind of death is written down somewhere in the region of 27 times!! It doesn't just say it though, it exhorts it's adherents to carry out such punishments "Wherever it is found, and by anyone who is a M***em!"

@@del_boy_trotter It's an utter shame that a seemily educated fellow like yourself seems to have such backwards views... what izzy actually did was stand on a soapbox and cry out his view that a whole group of people should and will suffer in an eternal hell of fire and pain..... Now, he has every right to say whatever he likes of course, but with that carries to burden that he opens himself up to the views of others whether it be you agreeing with him or me disagreeing with him and evberything inbetween. Freedom of speech allows him this without legal reprecussions, it does not allow him immunity from judgement by others.. (freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequence). The views he expressed, are, by very defintion a hate speech.. it is literally wishing pain and suffering upon others publically. Show me anywhere where 'homosexuals are demanding superiority'? .. please, i'm waiting. Perhaps you should look a little closer to home to find fault in someones behaviour, as frankly, im surprised anyone still holds your backwards, medieval view of the world anymore.

I would like to know the same thing, where is the christian reprensentation?

Probably preaching and pointing judgemental fingers at others no doubt

What's it got to do with them? he's entitled to his believes and opinion.

@Louise Mcilwaine He had lesbians at his wedding.....you can be against homosexuality and still be friends with them.

Imagine being able to spell. Must play forward.

Paula Erdbeer That’s a stupid comment wow

@@niallhiggins2342 What a clever reply! You must have been in the debating team at school.

Saying homosexuals, among other groups, are going to hell isn't fascist. Preventing him from expressing his views by attempting to censor him is. That being said, i don't agree with what he has said, but I respect his right to say it if it's what he believes as part of his faith.

@@paulcoffield2102 The religious institutions have been weakened by social changes and progress. They are now limited to sharing cheap graphics on Facebook. If they had their old power back they would be destroying the lives of not just gays. Israel is a deluded hateful fascist who needs to be excluded from public life.

Oh the irony!!! It's interesting these comments caused such outrage compared to recent events in brunei, where the religious aspect was avoided at all costs. One rule for Christianity, another for Islam....

George Polycarpos : Please explain how repentance comes about?

George Polycarpos : you can not repent without the Holy Spirit. Which you only receive through acceptance of the free gift that is Jesus Christ’s dying for your sins and taking yr place. Only once you’re completely reliant on Jesus Righteousness will you become repentant. Man can not repent of his own accord.

Players sign their contract and agree to be effectively mute for two or three years or whatever it is, but presumably they have to be tailors' dummies for any message their employer wants to promote - e.g. Poppy Appeal or the LQBT rainbow flag that the Irish footballers had on their backs - a very one-sided relationship. The sporting bodies need to stop foisting these messages on the players' shirts.

@@Fredders88 "Message to promote"... Being against racism, bigotry, homophobia, hate speech etc... is not pushing a message in a one sided relationship, but just making sure that things are the way they should be.

It’s not freedom if the consequence is losing your job. It is restricted speech.

@@april-tui3524 He lost his job because he broke his contract. He was free to say whatever he want, but then there are consequences. Can you just say what you want to your boss, or about the company you work for or shout hate speech in the work place and not get fired? Think before you post...

Jordan Cox my point remains. If a person has their speech restricted by an employment contract, they do not actually have ‘free’ speech. If the consequence of speaking is loss of your job, you can’t logically insist that is free speech. It isn’t.

@995sean nope my suggestion is make the contract clear in the first place they shouldnt spout homophobic hate on social media, instead they let the play, win games then kick off when they express views they had the whole time. His views aren't right but they hired him regardless so tough shit if he says something awful

I think we've heard enough from theists this week.

Because there's only one side the media wants to represent and it's this one

@@darthmong7196 I agree Darth, tolerance should not tolerate anyone who disagrees with you.

@@dulls8475 Believe it or not I love a theological debate in it's proper context. However I come here to watch discussions on rugby, not to hear vile unfounded assertions from gullible bigots.

@@darthmong7196 Good point.

Correct

@@JOE_co_uk INCORRECT get your facts right