I'm 16 minutes in and ive choked back tears twice. I don't quite think anybody can understand what this generation have gone through. Mr. Showers is ahead of me as I'm born '77 and ive been in similar situations as he described early on. My dad went through this in the 60's in England and cuts him til this day. Strangely even the youngster's can't comprehend, black or white. As a 50 year old mixed race man Mr.Showers i understand. Even the "Mainstreaming of the N word" which is more an American thing disturbs me. When im out and about in public and hear this word in popular music my stomach turns. Salute to you Mr Showers God Bless you 🙏

I loved working with Michael at Sainsburys Haydock he was there, he was a really cracking genuine guy, loved listening to his stories he told,,,went through a strike with him at Haydock and i always remember him turning up on the picket line immaculately dressed, Rolex watch, 3 piece suit, cashmere coat ,,,,,i thought it was Chris Eubank when i first looked at him that day,,,,,,what a guy he was and i would love to meet up with him again,,,Take care and good health my friend

James, I've listened to so many of these interviews. They are mega interesting. This one teared me up. Going through life with the added weight of racism, is like wading through quick sand mixed with treacle. Keep up the good work James. Thank you

I was 16 and, me and a couple of mates decided to move down to Nottingham. We ended up in a place called the Meadows with Afro-Carribeans talking with them listening to Bob Marley from the biggest ghetto blaster I had ever seen. When we got back to our B&B the guy who ran it sat us down at the table and gave us an awakening. He said you went into a black area where they had just killed a white guy in retaliation for a white guy killing a black guy. He pointed out that maybe we didn't understand(which we didn't) that we were wearing red and yellow laces in our Dr Martin boots and had skinheads which were the colours of the National Front. He worked with the Anti-Nazi League and had a couple of black kids. We were into two-tone and ska music and Bob Marley. Many years later I was in Chapeltown in Leeds and my mate from down there told me I was crazy as it was really bad then and the Yardies were having a war and they also didn't like white guys there. I loved it and knew the guys who ran everything in there so was ok. I used to go and drink in Blues houses and there was a notorious pub there called the Hayfield. All different now though.

Wow! The lies he tells about his first wife, (my mother) is absolutely shocking!! Please don't believe a word of what he says. He's a nasty, wife beating bully and my beautiful mother still stuck by him through all of that!! Every single thing he says about her is an utter lie and James just laps it up!! Actually infact, he encourages it!! It makes my blood boil seeing this!! The way he has tried to manipulate the public into believing that my mother is some sort of gold digging cow (in his words) How bloody foul! Nasty, stinking lies! All of it!! If only you all knew the real truth. You'd be sick! I think my mother should also do a podcast don't you think? She can tell you all the real truth... We'll call it, "My life with Michael Showers" I think it's only fair for you to all hear the truth of who this man really is!

Love 2 see someone who gets physically old but has a high spiritual vibration

This guy opened my eyes, he's a Legend. You can now roam freely anywhere in the UK now and you deserve too👍❤

Micheal has been my childhood friend and we have been through so much together I can confirm all what he stated in his interview and I can confirm this is the first time in all these years this is the first time I have seen Michael cry I look forward to reading his book

When it got to “I got this guy his visa and he brought in smack and blamed me” a was like maaaate come on🤣 you done a personal favour,to get a guy a visa,and then loads a kit comes in but you arent any part of it🤣🤣🤣

The Voice referendum here in Australia isn't about giving our First Nation people rights, they have rights. It about separating them from the rest of the population in our Constitution.

Kind of a legend in our city this guy! A true gentleman gangster, smart, capable, resourceful and seen this life as his only real shot at living upto his true potential... Edit - didnt know he was involved with anyone from huyton! Born and raised in huyton myself! Also id like to point out even back in the day not everyone in liverpool was racist, i never met my grandad he had my dad at 62 he was in the second world war and one of his best mates in the army was black and taught my dad how racism is the most ignorant mindset humans ever created as colour doesnt create character, my family is a mixed family and i couldnt be prouder of that. Judge people on thier heart, mind, character and actions... nothing else matters...

Big up anyone from L8 especially. Big up everyone watching. Not sure about the circumstances for the 20 and 10.. but what a great life story. Big him up. RIP Charles Wooten!

Big respect to Mr Showers...regardless of what crimes he may have allegedly been involved with in the past....he has done his best throughout to better his life... A very intelligent gentleman...

I’m of mixed race heritage was born in 1967; I’ve endured racism actually from both sides. I can also remember the racist chanting on the terraces of Wolverhampton wanderers has a kid, this is the first time I’ve seen Michael in such an emotional state of mind, he came across quite broken I thought, nearly 30yrs inside, now he’s nearly 80 maybe he’s asking himself were all of those wasted years actually all worth it.

Another powerful interview James, thoroughly enjoyed it.. So glad to see that michael has settled down and is more at peace.. We all make mistakes in life(too many) are quick to judge others without knowing the other person or their upbringing.. Unfortunately for michael the systematic racism that was so ingrained in our culture, especially at that time sent him down the wrong path, at least his testimony can prevent the younger generation from following suit 🙌🔥🙌

Iam a black woman and I know the era he grew there was a lot of open racism more obvious than today, however many people were in the same boat and did not choose the life of crime. He does cry victim and the story in Turkey was a load of crap !!! He knew what he was doing ! Narcissist vibes. But he does dress very well though 😅

What a lovely guy.....breaks my heart into pieces racism..... I want to thank you Michael from a grand mother, for your honesty and authenticity, you are an inspiration and worthy of much love and respect XX Godbless you X

Another belter James. Really wasn't expecting this when he read 'Drug Lord' I had a preconception but I was pleasantly wrong. Beauty of Podcasts

Michael Showers articulate loves classical Music great chess player highly educated Very kind ex councilor highlighted and made a difference to the poverty and deprivation in the South End of Liverpool ,wrongly convicted. Being a retired Seaman ,had great times romancing and enjoying ourselves in the South End. Jumped Ship on the other side of the world,many years ago. Good health to you Michael,went to Liverpool from Eire at 6 yrs know full well the hatred that We both went through,as did many others. Kindest regards Fred O’Brien 🍀🙏

What a lovely man, I'm a white man and so ashamed of what many have been through with racism and the mouths and hands of them they call white people

hello Micheal I drove with you in your white roller you told me to jump in at denny mcgivens funeral, knew all your friends I escaped to the usa. went on the run, done shaun attwoods podcast. liverpool bank robber to the Hollywood Butler my book comes out in December. nice to see you doing well. spoke to young Jake Abraham few weeks ago. peace love to you lad Terry Moogan

Great podcast James👌🏻 what a life Michael has has. ….. Irish racism existed in the 60,70,80s in Salford too, it defines and makes the person you are

NICE ONE JAMES, VERY INTERESTING... KNOWN MICHAEL AND HIS FAMILY SINCE I WAS A CHILD, I'M NOW MID 60s ..KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK👏👏👏

God bless this man. Can't keep a good man down. Moving me to tears. Racism comes from an uneducated and ignorant place. You made it brother, out the other end :)

I find it funny the way James just swept his hand and said "I never see it in Scotland"

Mans still a legend in liverpool today, much like curtis warren after him, the only future they could see was on the wrong side of the law, and much the same as warren, you cant help but wonder what this man would have made of himself if hed stayed on the right side of the law

James English your driving me mad... I just found your channel and I'm overdosing on your podcasts can't stop... your blooming brilliant.....🇮🇪

Can't believe a word that comes out of that fellas mouth. None of his stories add up.

'The ex wife always gets the house'? So James, if your daughter (in the future) had a child with a man who got jailed, you wouldn't want them to have a roof over their heads? Mum was raising the child - alone. What use is a four bedroom house if you're in prison.

I was so glad when I heard he was selling ganja and not smack! Then I watched the rest of the documentary... What an honest guy!

Goodness, the unresolved and deep seated pain this poor man has is beyond sad. I don’t know if he’s had any, but he’d no doubt benefit from therapy in order to try and put it behind him. But my goodness, as a teenager, the only one of colour in the prison, it must have been absolutely awful. Poor man.

I watched him years ago getting interviewed about how drugs is ruining the community and it needs to stop....... all the while bringing in loads of heroin himself the worst drug of all...hes a hypocrite and a spoof

Rather than all the bull why not apologise for all the young peoples lives you ruined through drugs! Discusting!!

my HEART WENT OUT TO HIM AT 11.50 ... IT STILL CAUSES HIM SO MUCH PAIN

“4 sentences, one nearly 20 years, very well respected”… no he ain’t lol.

James a classic interview once again, this guy Michael needs to get counselling for complex trauma , I can tell with his emotions he needs it, Thanks James for an interesting guest. Ex Veteran with CPTSD.

i remember the Rialto on Fire that night in 81

Not letting the man go to his mothers funeral that’s disgraceful

A bit before my time and I’m not from Liverpool so I’ve never heard of him but I do know his brother acted as a priest at a wedding ceremony for Paul Sykes 😂

Good to see you looking well Michael. Wish u nothing but happiness.

Just ordered the book..thank you Micheal

Michael as a 49 year old lad from Merseyside who's best friend growing up was a black lad called James Brown ha that's right I apologise for the racism of the police and society in general coz back then I don't think it was even about color and more about an easy target to take it out on because of the general deprivation and poverty at that time and especially Merseyside more so than most places but it doesn't make it any easier though

The man who ran over Michael Showers' mother and killed her was the brother of a boxer whom Showers was accused of killing in 1980 (I think). Showers conveniently left out this information, as well as two other murders (one of which was a prostitute).I hope these incidents are covered in his forthcoming book, which I look forward to reading.

Steve French grandad 😂😂

I am sad to see someone cry , no matter your skin colour ,there is good and bad in everbody

Money comes & goes but a life without love ❤️ is no life at all. Love is everything.🙏🏼💗

Nice bloke, and I see racism everyday in England. I’m a white male aged 46. I’m gobsmacked nobody talks about the outrageous, blatant racism in today’s society against people like me. How sad it must of been for black men my age in the 70 and 80’s 👍👍

If i didnt suffer racism i wouldnt have been a drug smuggler that helped ruin countless lives 😂😂👌 He forgot to mention all the phone calls to the Pakistani man lol.........Showers, who was working at the time in Liverpool City Council's immigration unit, denied he was involved, saying he was helping Zubair get entry clearance for his wife. But itemised phone records associated with Showers showed calls to and from Pakistan. And one of the phone numbers in Pakistan was printed on a bus stop right next door to the location of the drugs handler. ......and that was it!! Gone right off this channel, all it seems to be is gangsters and degenerates. Plus comment from JE "just because someone has done bad doesn't make them a bad person" does that include murderer's and sex offenders?

This guy is not healed, he is way too emotional, constantly crying from start. Hope he feels better and enjoy his end of days

His book is called .. “And that’s it”

His brother delroy was the guy in paul sykes at large video marrying paul and cath

The same sort of racism used to happen here in cardiff in the tiger Bay Area until the boys said no more some of the toughest men around come out of cardiff docks tiger Bay Area

God bless this man. Most people would never have survived what Michael went through. The scars of racism and the difficult early life he was subjected too are still very raw to this gentleman. Even at his age it’s evident that the wounds are still there. In terms of his life of crime and prison no man can judge the bad decisions he’s made especially given the complete picture. If anything one can only have empathy for the road that he took. It’s never too late to change and I hope for Micheal healing and the peace of mind that he was denied as a young man. This is an inspiring, fascinating story that we can all learn something from. I have seen Michael in other interviews but not as relaxed and as open as he is here. James that is down to you and your incredible skills when talking and relating to people. Top class. 🙏❤️.x

The start was interesting to hear. Racism in England has got worse as the millions of migrants have arrived both legally and illegally in the last 20 years. Scotland hasn’t experienced this change so it’s bound to be less racist. Wales is the most racist place I’ve been to though. I don’t remember hearing racism at all in the 90s or early 2000s in England. Only since Blair’s policies took over.

Wonder if he's going to stick to his " I only ever sold weed bull$hit " Bet he doesn't talk about his arrest and imprisonment in Turkey a few years ago

One of the elders off the villiage nothing but respect for him

“Sa you only done the puff I thot you done the smack aswell” 😂😂

The word legend doesn’t do Micheal justice for what he’s done for black people in this city. It was bad enough for me in the 80s/90s growing up. Never mind the days when Micheal was young. What a guy

This is the best interview so far. What an absolute gentleman Michael is.

used to go to the gladray club[off parli street toxteth and few shady pubs in the dingle[the showers would drink there..sound as...im a welsh woolie and my ex missus[allerton[ worked there..me bro in law was a builder ..drank in lark lane..queens drive...top laughs

James utterly impressed by his Windsor Knot. Fucking brilliant. Hopefully get Curtis on the podcast when he's back out

Good questions James. We are all equal under Gods Sun. Just goes to show how being hurt can make you react. God bless all :)

I hate the racism,I would have stood together with this man.That is so bad.

Wow absolutely stunning and fantastic interview Micheal is so eloquent and elegant so emotional at times what he has had to go with through with racism

Two drug stretchs and not his fault..yes yes right..and that's it

Old school breh. Respect and glad to see the changes.

This guy is my very last true crime book but i saved the best till last.

Great interview 10/10 for content mate👍

Hes was involved in the heroin trade thats why he got 20.years...yeah yeah he go set up an only dealt in hash😒

When micheal end on that's it , it really means that's the foundation to it and that's it 😅

Enyoyed this. Although it does make you think. This guy was known as Liverpool's original gangster, made millions, had a big house and a flash car and after all that ended up serving 20 odd years in prison, ended up working at Sainsbury's and now does his shopping at the Iceland in the Garston area of Liverpool where my mum and sister saw him the other week. Just shows you that living that sort of life only lasts a short amount of time before it eventually catches up with you. Being mixed race and from Liverpool myself, It's almost unthinkable to think that in his day it was so bad in terms of how racist it was. I grew up in a predominately white area and although have experienced racism myself here and there although nothing major, I can't imagine what black people of his generation must have gone though.

God Bless you Mr. Showers.

Really amazing ❤ thankyou James 💗

Fantastic interview

Great video again I was bought up in the 70s i am Indian and suffered terrible racism

Michael was a modern day Robin Hood so happy to see he's at peace ..❤❤❤❤❤😊

Beautiful man, interesting story. Got me crying at the racism because I too have faced similar problems growing up in Wales ❤️ wishing him all the best

Looking dapper. One of the old school here👍🏻

My mate come over on the boat from Tanzania when idi amin kicked them out , the boat ended up at north wales and his family got sent to Liverpool . My mate and his brother escaped death in Tanzania and said nobody in Liverpool scared them but people tried it on . My mate told me Michael Showers isn’t his real name and they knew each other from the big mosque in Liverpool where Michael helped out poor people and my mate does this now basically gives back . My mate and his brother had a garage in Liverpool and got leaned on for protection and had a word with Michael about it and these fellas were coming back so Michael went there and when these guys turned up and started talking about the money they owed Michael appears and tells them in no uncertain terms keep away from these lads or else . That’s my Michael showers story and my mates still got a garage and looks after peoples cars and doctors love him 😂

Thank you James and Mr Showers simply brilliant

Absolutely heartbreaking, no need for racism 😢

Give him a violin 🥴🥴🥴🥴

Micheal I will get your book mate. some one should pick this up for a film it would be great. was in borstal Micheal with some of the crew parly Jake Abraham was good mate of mine, peace love mate.

Bless this man

OMG I FEEL SO SORRY 4 THIS MAN..RACISM IS AN HORRIBLE THING..GODBLESS THIS MAN...

What an absolute gentleman. I would like to meet Mr Showers & shake his hand along with have a good chat with him about his life & thoughts on today’s topics. I can’t imagine the grief that this man & his parents/siblings went through with the racism back in his younger years.

Thanks James really Enjoyed this one cheers

Another great podcast!

Not sure I believe he got a 20 and a 10 in these circumstances 🤣🤣🤣🤣 but great interview . Thoroughly enjoyed it.

Best wishes Micheal ❤

Breaks my heart 💔

It was bad in Liverpool back in day ,really bad

There seems to be 2 opinions on this interview. My view is Michael is honest and at peace.

start is heartbreaking you can see his pain , what a story from a very strong man

A really intelligent man his life could have been very different he suffered was probably a victim of those times attitudes and circumstances.Knowledge is hard earned for some.

Absolutely loved this interview. It astounds me that there is still racism out there, my mum taught me, we are all the same, we all have red blood, go to the toilet etc., and have feelings. Its so sad that people are so, so cruel.

One of your best in a long time James. Powerful.

Just keeps crying and bringing up racism 🙄 acting like a victim

A really good spiritual podcast Michael has treaded a long journey I'm glad he's found peace

Absolutely shocking the way people in this country treated people like Michael because of his colour. Michael with all you’ve come through you have peace in your eyes now 🙏